[musictlk] having dccsccculty with choir director

Sun Aug 24 17:10:39 UTC 2014

Yes, I completely agree.
I can and do read Braille music, however I have always done the majority of
my learning by ear; most all of it right there in rehearsal situations, and
never had a problem
The professional choirs I've been in where nobody used music even on stage
during performances, I did have it in braille to make sure that I had it
completely 100 percent down so would use the music to practice on my own
time if a part was particularly difficult.

In other choir situations where everyone had music I would keep my music and
stand as a formality, and most of the time I ended up using it for words
more than anything else.
But sighted people have told me that it looks sorta odd if everyone else has
stands and one person doesn't, so I had mine up there too to go along with
the norm.

You really gotta be careful not to rely too heavily on reading your music
sothat you're not properly concentrating on what the director and the
singers around you are doing.
Sure he can hold that note for as long as he sees fit given what it is, but
you shouldn't have a problem cutting off with the rest of the group if you
use your ears, really.
I also realize that this was probably not the advice you were in search of,
but it's dead on so do with it what you will.

Amy Billman
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-----Original Message-----
From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anne Martin
via musictlk
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:45 PM
To: Timothy Clark - KC3CDU; Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: [musictlk] having dccsccculty with choir director

Kelsey,

You may be concentrating on your braille score so much that you're not 
paying as much attention to the cutoffs.  I don't use any music at all, I 
just listen and pick it up, and after a couple of times singing it, I've 
basically got it.  I just listen and sing.  I carry a folder in on Sundays 
only for formality, but that's just me...
Anne
----- Original Message --            --- 
From: "Timothy Clark - KC3CDU via musictlk" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "josh lester" <jlestermusic at gmail.com>
Cc: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [musictlk] having dccsccculty with choir director

i put antagonising. you spelled it wrong. mwhahaha.
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  73from KC3CDU

On Av 27, 5774 AM, at 16:40, josh lester <jlestermusic at gmail.com> wrote:

> You mean, agonizing, (LOL!)
>
>
> On 8/23/14, Timothy Clark - KC3CDU via musictlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>> this is going to sound harsh. suck it up. i am sure there are nicer ways 
>> for
>> me to put that but i'm a vary blunt and honest person and i hope i'm not
>> coming off as insensitive. when i'm singing at church i go in there and 
>> have
>> a blast. you can keep holding yourself back by what ifs and what should i

>> do
>> and such but in the end, you are only hurting yourself by antagonising 
>> over
>> it.
>> it's just not worth it.
>> stick with it and enjoy it.
>> amateur radio satellite operations.
>> amateur radio missionary
>>  73from KC3CDU
>>
>> On Av 27, 5774 AM, at 16:15, Kelsey Nicolay via musictlk
>> <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I posted a similar question before, but here goes.  I am in a community
>>> choir that is strictly volunteer, although we have to pay dues at the
>>> beginning of the season.  I really enjoy the group and have made some 
>>> good
>>> friends.  However, I am having trouble getting the director to 
>>> accommodate
>>> my blindness.  He does make sure I have all the music I need and that I
>>> have a music stand, but the problem is that I cannot see when he is
>>> conducting.  I can get when to come in based on reading the Braille 
>>> score,
>>> but the problem is when there is a fermata and he holds it for as long 
>>> as
>>> he wants.  I have no way of knowing when to cut off.  I suggested having
>>> my neighbor tap me on the arm when it is time to release, but this
>>> director wants no part of that, saying that it would cause a 
>>> distraction.
>>> While I understand where he's coming from with that, without that 
>>> feedback
>>> though, I'm basically left in the dark about when he is going to release

>>> a
>>> certain note.  I sent an email to the group's president explaining that
>>> for a blind person, there really is no way for them to know when to cut
>>> off without some sort of tactile cue from a neighbor and I asked if the
>>> three of us could meet to come up with a plan that meets everyone's 
>>> needs
>>> and draws as little attention to me as possible.  Does anyone have any
>>> ideas on how a sighted neighbor could relay such information to me
>>> tactually without drawing attention to myself or them? I hope to have 
>>> this
>>> discussion near the beginning of the season.  I have a friend in the 
>>> group
>>> who I know outside of the chorus, but she's in a different section, so 
>>> she
>>> really can't help much.  I would appreciate any suggestions you all 
>>> might
>>> have.  Also, your suggestions will be shared with the president and the
>>> director, although I will remove your names from them.  If you do not 
>>> want
>>> your opinion to be shared, please write me offlist and say so.
>>> I'm going to compile a document with all your suggestions.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kelsey Nicolay
>>>
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