[musictlk] question about iTunes

Jordan Gallacher jordanandseptember at gmail.com
Wed Dec 24 03:56:12 UTC 2014


Yep it sure does.  One thing also is look for deals on high end equipment.  I have a really nice guitar, and I got it on sale for about $600.

Jordan

 

From: brother Timothy Clark [mailto:theblindguitarist1992 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:04 PM
To: Poppa Bear; Music Talk Mailing List
Cc: Jordan Gallacher
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about iTunes

 

let’s see. computer costed me 12700 dollars, Ibanez guitar costed me a good 400 dollars, First Act guitar costed me a good 100 dollars, SX guitar costed me 126 dollars, Heil PR31 BW costed me 380 dollars, M-Audio interface costed me 100 dollars, both the Heil mic and the M-audio box quit working so those need replaced and my replacement is a Presonus Audio box, 100 dollars, mic replacement is a Senhiezer E185, 100 dollars. that’s not even putting into account strings, cables, windscreens and the like. 

 money doesn’t grow on trees and it takes years to save but it’s worth the pain of saving to receive the outcome.

Brother Timothy Clark 

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On Tevet 1, 5775 AM, at 21:59, Poppa Bear via musictlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:





I notice that when people have a few pieces of equipment, or a iphone or something to record on they are like minded, but when you have twenty thousand into your home studio you may feel a little bit different.

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From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher via musictlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:46 PM
To: 'brother Timothy Clark'; 'Music Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about itunes

I agree, and so does an artist I know well.  I do not do music for the money.  I do it for two reasons.  1st, I enjoy it, and 2nd, I know others enjoy hearing it.
Jordan

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From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of brother Timothy Clark via musictlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:48 PM
To: Marion Gwizdala
Cc: Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about itunes

as a musician myself who is actively recording, i encourage people to download my music for free. it shouldn’t be all about the money.
Brother Timothy Clark
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On Tevet 1, 5775 AM, at 18:06, Marion Gwizdala <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:




Timothy,

            I guess you could call it "scare tactics". Then, again, I guess you could call it good ethics and compliance with the law. Would you walk into a music store and steal the album? If not, what's the difference between that and stealing it digitally? 

Marion Gwizdala



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From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
brother Timothy Clark via musictlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:41 PM
To: Kaiti Shelton; Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about itunes

oh good grief. the usual scare tactics from the RIAA.
Brother Timothy Clark
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On Tevet 1, 5775 AM, at 11:58, Kaiti Shelton via musictlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:




Just to clear up any confusion, I've copied this from the RIAA's web site.

The Law


Unauthorized Copying is Against the Law

Copyright law protects the value of creative work. When you make 
unauthorized copies of someone’s creative work, you are taking 
something of value from the owner without his or her permission.
Most likely, you’ve seen the FBI warning about unauthorized copying 
at the beginning of a movie DVD.  Though you may not find these 
messages on all compact discs or music you’ve downloaded from the 
Internet, the same laws apply.  Federal law provides severe civil and 
criminal penalties for the unauthorized reproduction, distribution, 
rental or digital transmission of copyrighted sound recordings.
(Title 17, United States Code, Sections 501 and 506).

What the Law Says and What it Means

Making unauthorized copies of copyrighted music recordings is against 
the law and may subject you to civil and criminal liability.  A civil 
law suit could hold you responsible for thousands of dollars in 
damages. Criminal charges may leave you with a felony record, 
accompanied by up to five years of jail time and fines up to $250,000.
You may find this surprising. After all, compact discs may be easily 
be copied multiple times with inexpensive CD-R burning technology.
Further, when you’re on the Internet, digital information can seem to 
be as free as air.  U.S. copyright law does in fact provide full 
protection of sound recordings, whether they exist in the form of 
physical CD’s or digital files.  Regardless of the format at issue, 
the same basic principle applies:  music sound recordings may not be 
copied or distributed without the permission of the owner.

What the Courts Have to Say

A long series of court rulings has made it very clear that uploading 
and downloading copyrighted music without permission on P2P networks 
constitutes infringement and could be a crime.

Common Examples of Online Copyright Infringement:
◦You make an MP3 copy of a song because the CD you bought expressly 
permits you to do so. But then you put your MP3 copy on the Internet, 
using a file-sharing network, so that millions of other people can 
download it.
◦Even if you don’t illegally offer recordings to others, you join a 
file-sharing network and download unauthorized copies of all the 
copyrighted music you want for free from the computers of other 
network members.
◦In order to gain access to copyrighted music on the computers of 
other network members, you pay a fee to join a file-sharing network 
that isn’t authorized to distribute or make copies of copyrighted 
music. Then you download unauthorized copies of all the music you 
want.
◦You transfer copyrighted music using an instant messenging service.
◦You have a computer with a CD burner, which you use to burn copies 
of music you have downloaded onto writable CDs for all of your friends.
◦Somebody you don’t even know e-mails you a copy of a copyrighted 
song and then you turn around and e-mail copies to all of your friends.

Do The Crime, Do The Time
If you do not have legal permission, and you go ahead and copy or 
distribute copyrighted music anyway, you can be prosecuted in 
criminal court and/or sued for damages in civil court.
◦Criminal penalties for first-time offenders can be as high as five 
years in prison and $250,000 in fines.
◦Civil penalties can run into many thousands of dollars in damages 
and legal fees. The minimum penalty is $750 per song.

The "No Electronic Theft Law" (NET Act) is similar on copyright 
violations that involve digital recordings:
◦Criminal penalties can run up to five years in prison and/or
$250,000 in fines, even if you didn’t do it for monetary or financial 
or commercial gain.
◦If you did expect something in return, even if it just involves 
swapping your files for someone else’s, as in MP3 trading, you can be 
sentenced to as much as five years in prison.
◦Regardless of whether you expected to profit, you’re still liable in 
civil court for damages and lost profits of the copyright holder.
◦Or the copyright holders can sue you for up to $150,000 in statutory 
damages for each of their copyrighted works that you illegally copy 
or distribute.

If you make digital copies of copyrighted music on your computer 
available to anyone through the Internet without the permission of 
the copyright holder, you’re stealing. And if you allow a P2P 
file-sharing network to use part of your computer’s hard drive to 
store copyrighted recordings that anyone can access and download, 
you’re on the wrong side of the law.

Having the hardware to make unauthorized music recordings doesn’t 
give you the right to steal. Music has value for the artist and for 
everyone who works in the industry.

What the Courts Have to Say About Illegal Uploading and Downloading… 
…and Copyrighted Sound Recordings:

"As stated by Record Company Plaintiffs in their brief, "Aimster 
predicates its entire service upon furnishing a 'road map' for users 
to find, copy, and distribute copyrighted music." …We agree.
Defendants [Aimster] manage to do everything but actually steal the 
music off the store shelf and hand it to Aimster's users."
Aimster Copyright Litigation. 01-C-8933, MDL # 1425 (Memorandum 
Opinion and Order, September 4, 2002).

"…they [Aimster] apparently believe that the ongoing, massive, and 
unauthorized distribution and copying of Record Company Plaintiffs'
copyrighted works by Aimster's end users somehow constitutes 
"personal use.’ This contention is specious and unsupported by the 
very case on which Defendants rely."
Aimster Copyright Litigation. 01-C-8933, MDL # 1425 (Memorandum 
Opinion and Order, September 4, 2002).

"Napster users infringe at least two of the copyright holders’
exclusive rights . . . .Napster users who upload file names to the 
search index for others to copy violate plaintiffs’ distribution 
rights. Napster users who download files containing copyrighted music 
violate plaintiffs’ reproduction rights….[V]irtually all Napster 
users engage in the unauthorized downloading or uploading of 
copyrighted music . . ."
A & M Records v. Napster, Inc., 239 F.3d 1004 (9th Cir. 2001).

"Although defendant [MP3.com] seeks to portray its service as the 
‘functional equivalent’ of storing its subscribers’ CDs, in actuality 
defendant is re-playing for the subscribers converted versions of the 
recording it copied, without authorization, from plaintiffs’
copyrighted CDs. On its face, this makes out a presumptive case of 
infringement under the Copyright Act . . . ."
UMG Recordings, Inc. v. MP3.com, Inc., 92 F. Supp. 2d 349 (S.D.N.Y. 2000).

…and Copyrighted Images:
"Distributing unlawful copies of a copyrighted work violates the 
copyright owner’s distribution right and, as a result, constitutes 
copyright infringement. . . . . [Unlawful distribution occurs where] 
[f]iles of [copyrighted] information are stored in the central 
system, and subscribers may either ‘download’ information into 
their[computers] or ‘upload’ information from their home units into 
the central files . . . ."
Playboy Enterprises v. Russ Hardenburgh, Inc., 982 F. Supp. 503 (N.D.
Ohio 1997).

"[The Copyright Act] provides that an owner of a copyrighted work has 
the exclusive right to reproduce the work in copies . . . [and] to 
distribute copies of the work to the public . . . . [A]nyone who 
violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner … is an 
infringer of the copyright."
Playboy Enterprises v. Webbworld Inc., 991 F. Supp. 543 (N.D. Tex. 1997).

…and Copyrighted Software:
"Uploading is copying. Downloading is also copying. Unauthorized 
copying is an unauthorized use that is governed by the copyright laws.
Therefore, unauthorized uploading and unauthorized downloading are 
unauthorized uses governed by the copyright laws . . . ."
Ohio v. Perry, 83 Ohio St. 3d 41, 697 N.E.2d 624 (Ohio 1998).

"The unauthorized copying of copyrighted computer programs is . . . 
an infringement of the copyright . . . . [U]nauthorized copies . . . 
are made when such games are uploaded to the BBS [Bulletin Board 
Service] . . . [and] when they are downloaded to make additional 
copies by users . . . ."
Sega Enterprises v. MAPHIA, 857 F. Supp. 679 (N.D. Cal. 1994).

"‘[C]opying,’ for the purposes of copyright law, occurs when a 
computer program is transferred from a permanent storage device to a 
computer's random access memory. In this case, copies were made when 
the Sega game files were uploaded to or downloaded from [the 
defendant’s] BBS [Bulletin Board Service]."
Sega Enterprises. v. Sabella, 1996 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 20470 (N.D. Cal. 1996).

…and Copyrighted Text:
"Defendant Free Republic is a ‘bulletin board’ website whose members 
use the site to post news articles to which they add remarks or 
commentary . . . . The Plaintiffs' [Los Angeles Times and Washington 
Post] complaint alleges that unauthorized copying and posting of the 
articles on the Free Republic site constitutes copyright infringement 
. . . . [P]laintiffs' motion for summary adjudication with respect to 
fair use is granted . . . ."
L.A. Times v. Free Republic, 2000 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 5669 (C.D. Cal. 2000).

"When a person browses a website, and by so doing displays the 
[copyrighted] Handbook, a copy of the Handbook is made in the 
computer's random access memory (RAM), to permit viewing of the 
material. And in making a copy, even a temporary one, the person who 
browsed infringes the copyright. Additionally, a person making a 
printout or re-posting a copy of the Handbook on another website 
would infringe plaintiff's copyright."
Intellectual Reserve, Inc. v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry, Inc., 75 F.
Supp. 2d 1290 (D. Utah 1999).

When It Comes to Copying Music, What’s Okay … And What’s Not:

Technology has made digital copying easier than ever. But just 
because advances in technology make it possible to copy music doesn’t 
mean it’s legal to do so. Here are tips on how to enjoy the music 
while respecting rights of others in the digital world. Stick with 
these, and you’ll be doing right by the people who created the music.

Internet Copying
◦It’s okay to download music from sites authorized by the owners of 
the copyrighted music, whether or not such sites charge a fee.
◦Visit our list of Legal Music Sites or Music United for a list of a 
number legal and safe sites where permission is granted and content 
is available for downloading.
◦It’s never okay to download unauthorized music from pirate sites 
(web or FTP) or peer-to-peer systems. Examples of peer-to-peer 
systems making unauthorized music available for download include:
Ares, BitTorrent, Gnutella, Limewire, and Morpheus.
◦It’s never okay to make unauthorized copies of music available to 
others (that is, uploading music) on peer-to-peer systems.

Copying CDs
◦It’s okay to copy music onto an analog cassette, but not for 
commercial purposes.
◦It’s also okay to copy music onto special Audio CD-R’s, mini-discs, 
and digital tapes (because royalties have been paid on them) – but, 
again, not for commercial purposes.
◦Beyond that, there’s no legal "right" to copy the copyrighted music 
on a CD onto a CD-R. However, burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or 
transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable 
music player, won’t usually raise concerns so long as:
◦The copy is made from an authorized original CD that you 
legitimately own ◦The copy is just for your personal use. It’s not a 
personal use – in fact, it’s illegal – to give away the copy or lend 
it to others for copying.

◦The owners of copyrighted music have the right to use protection 
technology to allow or prevent copying.
◦Remember, it’s never okay to sell or make commercial use of a copy 
that you make.

Are there occasionally exceptions to these rules? Sure. A "garage" or 
unsigned band might want you to download its own music; but, bands 
that own their own music are free to make it available legally by 
licensing it. And, remember that there are lots of authorized sites 
where music can be downloaded for free. Better to be safe than sorry 
– don’t assume that downloading or burning is legal just because 
technology makes it possible.

Enjoy the music. By doing the right thing, you’ll be doing your part 
to make sure that the music keeps coming.

* This site is intended to educate consumers about the issues 
associated with the downloading, uploading and consumer copying of 
music. It is not intended to offer legal advice or be a comprehensive 
guide to copyright law and the commercial uses of music.


http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online
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the_law

On 12/23/14, Amy Billman via musictlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:



I too agree with Dave. Besides, he is the list owner and can choose 
what topics are ok to discuss...
How you're going to use it is irrellevant. What your cousin is going 
to do with it is as well, irrelevant.
Point being, he rightfully slapped your hand and you're continuing 
to clutter an already high traffic list with something that's not 
quite on topic.
Burn the cD if you choose; that one's on you, but up to you to 
research and figure out how; for a change, especially if you're not 
getting your desired answers from the list members.


-----Original Message-----
From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Jordan Gallacher via musictlk
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:35 PM
To: 'Linda Mentink'; 'Music Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about itunes

Na.  Burn it to a blank cd if that is what you want to do.  Since it 
is not for commercial use, no problem with doing that.
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Linda Mentink via musictlk
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:55 PM
To: Kelsey Nicolay; Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] question about itunes

Kelsey,

I agree with Dave on this one. Your cousin should buy the CD.

Blessings,

Linda

At 06:31 PM 12/21/2014, you wrote:



Hello,
I know this isn't exactly related to being a musician, but maybe 
someone on this list can help.  I recently purchased a CD that I 
imported into itunes.  My cousin wants me to burn her a copy, but 
I'm not experienced with this at all.  I use itunes 11 with JAWS 16 
without any scripts.  Is it possible for me to use itunes to 
accomplish this since windows media player and itunes do not work together very well.
Could someone explain how to burn a cd in itunes using jaws? I know 
I probably have to somehow select the tracks I want, but beyond 
that, I have no idea what to do.  My dad said he'd help me, but 
he's super busy with work.  So if someone could please explain it 
including the JAWS commands I need to use.  Or can this not be done 
using JAWS and therefore I would need sighted help?
Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay
P.S.  I'm using itunes on a pc running windows 7 professional.






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