[musictlk] Chord chart
Brandon Keith Biggs
brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
Sun Feb 16 03:40:01 UTC 2014
Hello,
are you going character by character through the line?
thanks,
Brandon Keith Biggs
On 2/15/2014 7:36 PM, marissa wrote:
> It reads f as ... f. Not sure how you put it.
>
>
>
> Nevermed, I looked at the bottom. It reads the f number as just an f,
> I don't even know how you wrote that, it won't let me.
>
>
> As for the piano, I have no teacher and no means of getting one. I
> have to learn on my own basically.
> I know intervals and arpegios (spelled correctly obviously). I know
> some of these things, just not which notes go to which chords and in
> which order they can appear in.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 19:29:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Chord chart
>
> Hello Marissa,
> This is so basic that everything in music stems from these concepts.
> If you are not grasping it from my descriptions or Kaiti's, you will
> need someone at a piano to show you. You can't advance in any music
> class until you understand the major and minor scales, the chromatic
> scale, intervals, chords and how they are written and sound.
> Here in America you also need to know your do re mi.
>
> I'm just wondering if your apex reads f# as an f number?
> thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
>
> On 2/15/2014 7:18 PM, marissa wrote:
> That is the most confusing email I have ever heard with speech. lol I
> am sick of speech and no display. Have to deal with it for at least
> two more weeks though. grr
>
>
> Is there anything on youtube, or any charts, anything like that, that
> would help?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
> To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:08:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Chord chart
>
> Hi Marissa,
>
> You are right about the C minor chord being C Eb G, but you have a few
> other things a little mixed up. A D major chord would be D F# A, and
> a D minor chord would b D F A. What you were describing with D F# B
> is actually an inverted B minor chord, which in root position would b
> B D F#.
>
> Basically, Brandon was right when he said knowing your chords all
> comes down to intervals. In most cases it's just identifying major
> and minor 3rds. There are more complex chords which have 2 major 3rds
> on top of each other and 2 minors as well, but for right now just
> focus on identifying major and minor chords in root position.
>
> The chromatic scale just goes up every half step, so it would be
> written like this: C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C. If you were going
> down it would be written with all flats as: C B Bb A Ab G Gb F E Eb D
> Db C. This is because sharps indicate an upwards motion, and flats
> indicate downwards.
>
> It might be easier if you do some thinking about the chords while
> looking at a piano. On the keyboard every single key is a half step
> in relation to other keys. The intervals in root position major and
> minor chords will always be the same, so try moving a major and minor
> chord around on the piano and see how it sounds. For example, play C
> E G which is a C major chord, then move the entire chord up a whole
> step to D F# and A to get a D major chord. F A C will be F major, G B
> D will be G major, and so on. To answer your question about E major,
> that is E G# and B. You'll primarily have your hand in one of two
> positions; with C, F, and G major chords all your fingers will be on
> white keys, with a white key in between each one you are using. C,
> skip D, E, skip F, and G, for example. The other shape will have your
> thumb and ring fingers on white keys, but your index finger playing a
> black key. D, skip E, F# on a black key, skip G, and A, for example.
> The only diatonic chord, or chord which has a root on one of the white
> keys, that you won't be able to use these shapes for is B major, but
> if you want to try it you will have your thumb on B which is white,
> your index finger on D# which is black, and your ring finger or pinky
> on F#. I would recommend primarily sticking to C through A for now
> though.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> On 2/15/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not that well. But I think I do have more of an understanding of
> minor and major chords after listening to those things on the
> site. But if c e and g is a c major chord, then wouldn't that
> make c e-flat g be a c minor chord? Also, if the d f-sharp b is
> the d major chord, what about the d f b?
> It is confusing when it comes to the e major chord because I'm
> th'king it's e g-sharp b, but what about e-;g-b or the e f-sharp
> b.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:17:50 -0800
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Chord chart
>
> Hello,
> in Braille the number sign is just a number sign in computer
> Braille.
> The # is the sharp and the b is the flat.
> d, f#, a
> d natural, f sharp, a natural.
>
> I probably should have asked if you know the chromatic scale?
> thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
>
> On 2/15/2014 10:43 AM, marissa wrote:
>
> I have no clue how to write that. But, when you say like an eb
> or fb
> or something like that, is the b the flat or the sharp?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
> To: Music Talk Mailing List <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:36:31 -0800
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Chord chart
>
> Hello,
> You don't really need one, just know the intervals
> major third minor third is a major
> minor third major third is a minor
> for example:
> c, e, g = major third, minor third (c, e = major third), (e, g =
> minor
> third).
> c, eb, g = minor third, major third. (c, eb = minor third),
> (eb, g =
> major third).
> Don't just use your tts and scroll over those descriptions, read
> them
> letter by letter or they won't make sense.
> From what you gave as an example, you are getting lost with
> inversions
> as well.
> Each chord is basically 3 notes, and they are bassed off
> something
> called a "root". This "root" is what we say when we reference
> the chord:
> "C minor chord, G major chord, E major chord..."
> The root is what we base everything off of. The other notes can
> be
> either above or below the root in the scale, so the chord can
> be: e, c,
> g or g, e, c or g, c, e or any order you can think of.
> But when you are trying to figure out a chord, you pick apart
> the notes
> and put them into what we call root position. That is:
> c, e, g
> In root position you have 2 3rds of some quality stacked on top
> of one
> another.
> Try and process the above and really understand it, because all
> chords
> are based off 3rds in some way. They are all stacked 3rds.
> Once you get that idea, you can move to using the thought that a
> triad
> is composed of a root, a 3rd and a 5th. That means that from
> the root, a
> triad has a note that is both a 3rd above it and a note that is
> a 5th
> above it. So a triad is both 2 3rds stacked on top of one
> another and it
> is a 3rd and a 5th above the base. Most musicians think of
> chords as a
> 3rd and 5th above the base. That is because when you move to
> non root
> position chords, (e, g, c) you look at the bottom note which is
> actually
> called the bass. So in a root position chord you have the root
> as "the
> bass" in the chord (e, g, c), you have the e as "the bass".
> When referencing the chord you only need to know the root, bass
> and
> quality in order to tell someone what to play on the piano. A
> chord in
> this format is:
> G root position minor chord.
> Root position is often just referenced as "G minor" rather than
> saying
> "G root position minor".
> With E in the bass on a c chord, we call it "first inversion".
> That
> means that:
> bass = e
> root = c
> quality = major
> so you would say: "c first inversion major chord".
> This holds true for all triads.
> If you have g in the bass on the above c major chord, it would
> be called
> "second inversion". So you would say "c second inversion major
> chord".
> bass = g
> root = c
> quality = major
> There are other chords that add extra notes in thirds above the
> 5th, so
> you have something like: "c, e, g, b" and that is called a C7
> chord. But
> don't worry about those right now. Just get the 2 main
> qualities, major
> and minor and that all chords are 3rds stacked on top of one
> another
> which is also known as a root, 3rd and 5th.
> The major chord is exactly the same as the minor chord, but the
> 3rd is a
> half step down in the minor chord from the major chord.
> so write back with your own chord chart based off the above
> description.
> I'll give you an example:
> c, e, g = c root position major chord
> c, eb, g = c root position minor chord
> c#, e#, g# = c# root position major chord
> c#, e, g# = c# root position minor chord
> d, f#, a = d root position major chord
> d, f, a = d root position minor chord
> ...
> Hope this helps!
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
>
> On 2/15/2014 6:55 AM, marissa wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anyone have a chord chart? A basic one that explains the
> chords,
> minor and major? Like this:
>
> c chord, c e g.
> g minor chord: g d b
> Wrong notes, I know.
>
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