[musictlk] choir question

Wed May 7 15:50:38 UTC 2014

Thanks loads.

Even the choir director had to laugh about what happened.

Everybody loved Nuggett.

-----Original Message----- 
From: josh lester
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:39 AM
To: Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] choir question

LOL!
Wow!
That reminds me of the Wendy Bagwell piece, "Three German Police Dogs,
and a Yellow Cat!"
Blessings, Joshua

On 5/7/14, Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> All of those ideas sound good.
>
> I also believe when learning a new peace it is inportant to really listen 
> at
>
> first to get a good idea of the tempo ETC. Also, when I (in a choir) and
> have an orchestra rehearsal, I usually don't sing full out because with an
> orchestra, things sound so much different.
>
> I need to tell you a good I need to tell you a story about what hapened
> happened onc\e concert with my leaderdog, Nuggett. I was in the choir for
> the American Conservatory of Music. We were doing our Christmas concert at
> the Scottish Right Cathedral in Chicago.
>
> There really wasn't a lot of room on the stage for Nugget and usually, in
> concerts, I would either leave her home or she would sit with mom and dad.
>
> Dad locked Nugget up in one of the offices of the Scottish right Building 
> on
>
> the other side of the facility. 'somehow or another, Nugget got out and 
> ran
>
> through the entire building to get to me. We were singing A BOY WAS BORN 
> IN
>
> BETHLEHAM by Bengamen Britton (a very quiet peace.) durring the peace,
> nugget came running down the ile to get to me. Needness to say, everyone 
> in
>
> the choir broke out laughing and we had to do the peace all over again.
>
> I'm sure that is a rare ooccurence, but it did happen.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julie McGinnity
> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:12 AM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] choir question
>
> Hi Kelsey and all,
>
> Interesting discussion.  I will try not to write a novel on this topic
> as I have a lot of experience with various choir situations!  :)
>
> I am interested to hear how many of you use assistance from others for
> tempo changes and other cues.  I have never done this.  I think once I
> did, but it was a smaller ensemble situation.  I have found that if
> you listen to the people behind and next to you, you can hear these
> things.  Listen to their breathing, their anticipation, and use the
> first rehearsals to get used to tempo changes.  Learn to feel them in
> your bodies as you blend with others, and they will come naturally.
> You may not be perfect at first, especially if you are working with a
> particularly difficult piece or a new director, but if you get used to
> how your director does things, then you'll begin to feel music the way
> he does.  Random tempo changes may be difficult, but they're difficult
> for everyone.  If there is something you have trouble with, the people
> around you could help.
>
> It might be good to remind the director that if he puts a rehearsal
> order up on the board to always speak it out loud.  That way you can
> arrange your music accordingly or keep the order in mind as you
> rehearse.  Do you keep your music in a binder?  I found that to be the
> easiest for me to flip through it quickly.  The most I ever needed
> assistance from others was with knowing where we were in a piece,
> since I didn't have measure numbers in my Braille at the time.
>
> Please don't think I'm discouraging you from asking those around you
> if you need it.  I think it's a great way to gain information, but
> know that it's not the only way.  You can use your ears and your sense
> of rhythm and intuition to sing successfully as well in a choir
> situation.
>
> A note about risors and blind people: if you use a music stand, being
> on the top row of the risors may not be ideal.  Also, if you use a
> music stand, be sure to have a system in place so that getting it
> before concerts isn't more difficult than it needs to be.  I struggled
> with that a lot, since my director would forget, refused to let me
> handle my own music stand, and then wanted me to rely on others to
> find it for me.  Eventually, I came up with my own system.
>
> My choir director at my undergrad was a bit different.  Not only did
> he make me go to the top of the risors, but he wouldn't let me when I
> asked to go back to the front row.  I asked him because with the music
> stand, it was difficult to easily use it without it getting in the
> others' way.  When he said no, I accepted that but asked him that if
> in class rehearsals I could remain in the front row because I had a
> guide dog at the time, and I really didn't want to subject her to the
> top row of the risors.  He said for some rehearsals this was fine,
> which was unhelpful for planning purposes.  Let's just say I had a
> really brave guide dog.  :)  She climbed up there and laid herself on
> the top of the risors like a boss.  Oh, and I am barely over five feet
> tall, so I have rarely sung at the top of the risors before.  I have
> to say I am not a fan.  A lot of my listening intuition abilities were
> gone up there, and I found myself coming in at wrong places and being
> unable to blend well, which defeated the purpose of him putting me
> there in the first place.
>
> Anyway, I wish you luck in your choirs everyone.
>
> On 5/6/14, Ixchel, Jackie <starsandhearts2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Josh and Linda,
>> Thank you for the help.
>> Jackie
>>
>> On 5/6/14, Kelsey Nicolay <piano.girl0299 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jackie,
>>> Please write me offlist.  I think I can help you.  My email
>>> address is piano.girl0299 at gmail.com
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
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