[MusicTlk] An idea - what are your thoughts?

Mike Jolls mrspock56 at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 9 13:14:43 UTC 2018


Hi everyone



I have an idea for a product that could help some people.  I wanted to find out what everyone thought.



First, let me tell you about myself.  I’m a visually impaired musician.  I’m very nearsighted.  I use a pair of telescopic glasses to read my music.  Due to the magnification I require to read a standard piece of music, I can only see a measure at a time.  It makes learning the music slow, and if I ever wanted to just sit down and read and play, it’s almost impossible to do that in a performance situation.  Consequently, with this experience, I’ve been thinking there has to be a better way.



My idea is to have some software that allows you to read your music from an electronic file, then render and magnify the music and display it on say a 26” monitor.  The user should be able to set the magnification level in the software as desired. Plus, have a footswitch tied to the monitor (probably wirelessly) so that you just tap the footswitch, and the page advances or goes back.  I’ve been thinking about this for several months and the technology to do this appears to all be there.  The big problem is having the software that will render the magnified view.



Here’s how it might be accomplished.



  1.  Scan your music to graphic form
  2.  Have software that “rips the music” from the graphic form and converts it to electronic format … maybe XML format (it appears this is already available)
  3.  Store the music on a small flash card
  4.  Have software running on a very small device such as Raspberry Pi computer which can read the files and render the music on a 26” monitor which is connected to the Pi.
  5.  Have a wireless footswitch communicating with the Pi.
  6.  Have the software recognizes the footswitch clicks, which are used to turn the pages forward and back.
  7.  Have the software programmed so that it allows the user to increase the magnification / decrease as desired and updates the monitor display.



The  Pi is a small device.  The footswitch is small also.  Therefore, it could be easily transported to a gig, or to a music lesson.  Or if you’re practicing, you put the monitor on your music stand or piano and you’re ready to read your music.  The software would allow you to pick which music you wanted to play from your stored music library.  If you were playing a gig, you’d want to be able select and sequence multiple pieces so you  can move seamlessly from one song to the next.



All of this technology is relatively inexpensive.  The software would be the big undertaking.  From what I’ve seen, the only thing that approaches what I’m talking about is the LimeLighter / Dancing Dots system, and it’s like $4000.  That’s really unfortunate, because I think it prices a lot of people out.  What I would see is that the software I’m talking about would be a couple of hundred bucks, plus the hardware the end user would buy.  In addition to the Pi, the monitor, and software, you’d also need a good scanner.  One caveat, however, is that this software would probably not allow composition.  You’d have to use a different product to write the music, and then export the music to XML (or other) electronic format.  But once created, the electronic file could be read and rendered.



So again, let me say this would be a VISUAL system.  Based on what I’ve said, would there be interest for such a system?  It would take a tremendous amount of work to do.  I’d be interested in in it.  Being a retired software engineer, it’s something I might be interested in working on for myself.  And if others could benefit, that would be even better.



So, what kind of interest would there be in something like this?



Thanks for listening.







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> Hello all,
> I?m currently in a lookout for any accessible metronome for iOS. I was wondering if you use any metronome apps, if any, and would love to know the ones that are usable with VoiceOver.
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> Hi Seyoon. I do not have an answer but since you brought up this topic I would like to also   piggyback on this post  and ask if there is a good guitar tuning app that would work with voiceover. Even a very low tech one that just gives a tone for each string to match to would work  fine for my purposes.  Could use a four string bass tuning app also.
> Robert
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> Hi all,
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> I am new to this list, but to answer your question about the guitar, there
> are a couple of things that I have done to tune mine. One way is an app
> called talking tuner. I think it is paid but it's been quite some time since
> I got it. You play the note, and it tells you what note you play. Another
> thing I do, is I ask alexa to open guitar tuner or even pitch pipe, I have
> it play a note and I tune it that way.
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> Hi Seyoon. I do not have an answer but since you brought up this topic I
> would like to also   piggyback on this post  and ask if there is a good
> guitar tuning app that would work with voiceover. Even a very low tech one
> that just gives a tone for each string to match to would work  fine for my
> purposes.  Could use a four string bass tuning app also.
> Robert
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> Hello all,
> I?m currently in a lookout for any accessible metronome for iOS. I was
> wondering if you use any metronome apps, if any, and would love to know the
> ones that are usable with VoiceOver.
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> Regards
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> Hello there,
> you can try tempo perfect or SmartMetronome these are very accessible apps.
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> Regards
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>> On 08-Aug-2018, at 9:25 PM, Seyoon Choi via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> I?m currently in a lookout for any accessible metronome for iOS. I was wondering if you use any metronome apps, if any, and would love to know the ones that are usable with VoiceOver.
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> I already had Tempo Perfect on my phone, which I still like to this day, but realized that it was quickly going outdated. The app developer did not keep the app up to date or something. I?ve just downloaded SmartMetronome and sounds equally accessible.
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> Thanks
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> Seyoon
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>> On Aug 8, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Seyoon Choi via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> I?m currently in a lookout for any accessible metronome for iOS. I was wondering if you use any metronome apps, if any, and would love to know the ones that are usable with VoiceOver.
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>> Regards
>> Seyoon
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