[MusicTlk] Question about XML music files

Bill McCann billlist1 at verizon.net
Mon Oct 8 17:15:39 UTC 2018


You might like to listen to a podcast demonstrating the Lime Aloud talking score feature.  See "Mp3 audio presentation of Lime Aloud": 
http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/limealoud.htm

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
Cc: Ned O'Brien
Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] Question about XML music files

Interesting, I'm using a linux machine and ibos won't run onit..haven't
gottten around to trying it on my win machine, but I listened to an
interview with the developer and thought it would be good, I thought it
would read the music measure by measure
I guess I must load it and try
ned


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:11 PM Ella Yu via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> I don't like IBOS.  It's a music xml to braille and I hate the
> formatting.  (continuation indicator)
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ned O'Brien via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
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> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] Question about XML music files
>
> There are a number of free sites out there for xml format one in
> particular
> is musicscore, you need to sign up all genres are available, also
> an app
> available called IBOS I think it's just windows based can read
> xml
> music....don't be fooled by programs that say they can convert
> pdf to
> xml..they don't work
> good luck
> hav a gt day
> ned
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 7:17 AM Mike Jolls via MusicTlk
> <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> wrote:
>
>  Ella Yu
>
>
>
>  When I was talking about “popular music”, I was referring to
> popular music
>  of any genre.  The Chopin piece I cited is a popular work within
> the
>  classical music genre.  Another example would be “Ring of
> Fire” within the
>  country music genre.  Therefore, I was asking whether there were
> libraries
>  that existed that a person could access in order to download XML
> music
>  files which contain popular music from a variety of genres.
>
>
>
>  You are probably right that XML music files are not in high
> demand by the
>  public.  That would probably be explained by the assumption that
> sighted
>  people don’t ask for XML files because they can just read
> standard printed
>  music.  Why would they need anything else?  And if that
> assumption is
>  correct, then it’s logical to further assume that publishers
> see no need to
>  make them available.  It wouldn’t surprise me, however, if
> publishers
>  already store music in their internal libraries as XML formatted
> files.
>
>  In asking this question, I was hoping that an organization such
> as NFB or
>  NLS was already doing the work of formatting XML music.  Or
> better yet,
>  collecting pre-formatted XML music already built by the
> publishers,
>  assuming this has already been done.
>
>
>
>  On a previous post, I asked about music enlargement software.
> Someone
>  replied about the Dancing Dots software.  After doing some
> research, I came
>  to the conclusion that DD could read XML formatted files.
> However, each
>  piece of music would have to be converted to XML format.  This
> puts the
>  responsibility of creating the music XML file squarely on the
> end-users
>  shoulders.  They’d either have to know how to do this by
> themselves, or
>  they’d have to pay someone (probably per piece of music) to do
> that.  The
>  process of creating such music would be time consuming and
> likely expensive.
>
>
>
>  Therefore, having music in standard XML format in a library
> which was
>  accessible to all low vison or blind musicians would streamline
> the process
>  of getting and producing the desired music.  It could also open
>  opportunities for other software that don’t currently exist.
>
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>  From: MusicTlk <musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Ella
> Yu via
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>  Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:55:38 PM
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>  Cc: Ella Yu
>  Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] Question about XML music files
>
>  XML files are actually quite difficult to find, as they're in
>  relatively low demand.  When you refer to "popular music", are
>  you referring to the
>  popular music genre or are you referring to well-known music in
>  any genre? The example you cited is classical music.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Mike Jolls via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>  To: "musictlk at nfbnet.org" <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 22:26:41 +0000
>  Subject: [MusicTlk] Question about XML music files
>
>  This is a question to everyone on the list.
>
>  I’d like to know if there are existing libraries with popular
>  music that we can access that contains pre-built music files in
>  XML format.
>
>  For those that may not know, XML is a computer data format used
>  to store documents as a series of data attributes.  Each aspect
>  of a piece of music would be represented as an attribute in this
>  format (rests, whole notes, time signatures, accents, phrasing,
>  etc…).  A computer program could read such an XML file (say
> for
>  example, Chopin’s Nocturne in Eb Major #9).  After reading the
>  XML file, such a program could then graphically render the music
>  on a computer screen.
>
>  To do this, a library of music would need to be built which a
>  person could download from.  It would probably be a subscription
>  service.  Having downloaded the XML music file, computer
> software
>  would then perform the graphical rendering.
>
>  What I’m looking for is a library that is already preloaded
> with
>  XMl formatted music files.  Anybody know anything about this?
>
>  Thanks
>
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