[MusicTlk] Scrambling to Learn Music for Community Orchestra

Mon Sep 9 21:24:51 UTC 2024

Yep it's all stuff that isn't in IMSLP. For the stuff pre 1930 or whatever, I can find it on IMSLP and it's not an issue. Thanks.

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From: MusicTlk <musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ella Yu via MusicTlk
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 12:32 PM
To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] Scrambling to Learn Music for Community Orchestra

Hi Catherine, Thanks for explaining your situation, that makes total sense.
Sounds like you've got a good plan of action. I do have one more thought. I don't know how your orchestra's library system works, so just to clarify, is the rental music primarily for non public domain works i.e anything written after like 1930? At least for my orchestra, we never rent music unless it is not in the public domain or the music is otherwise difficult to get anywhere else. I know the likelihood of the following isn't high, but if your orchestra is renting parts for certain public domain pieces for some reason, I would suggest poking around on IMSLP and perhaps use those materials to have those pieces done for you early that way, though I've heard some IMSLP editions/scans aren't the best, but still, for public domain music, it's much easier to find free/low-cost sheet music online.
The non public domain rental stuff is where you will really just need to push to get it as soon as possible.
Hope this helps.
(PS: Yes, I know there's a flood of emails going around in different places (as you can see, it's because of me as well since I posted a topic), so
yeah.)

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 5:08 AM Catherine Getchell via MusicTlk < musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Ella,
>
> Thanks. Good idea. I'll post to MENVI, too once the other discussion 
> dies down a bit. You're absolutely right that string players often sit 
> out for a concert here and there, whereas wind players don't. I've 
> become much more familiar with this lately because I'm now on the 
> personnel committee for the orchestra, so I get emails from players 
> whenever they have to miss a rehearsal or a concert, and it's much 
> more often strings than winds or brass. The reason is those of us who 
> are the only one on our part might feel a stronger obligation to make 
> every show unless we have an absolutely immovable conflict or illness. 
> That's part of my hesitation in sitting out the show. I'd basically 
> have to find myself a sub who I trust to play the part well, hopefully 
> without having to pay them. Since this is an ongoing issue, I don't 
> think sitting out one show is the solution. I think I need to have a 
> heart-to-heart with the conductor and just be honest about my dilemma 
> and see what he could do to help me come up with a solution. Thanks for your thoughts on this.
> Catherine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MusicTlk <musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ella Yu via 
> MusicTlk
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 4:23 PM
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> Cc: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] Scrambling to Learn Music for Community 
> Orchestra
>
> Hi Catherine, This honestly sounds tricky, and it's a situation I 
> personally won't face in the same way you do, even though I also play 
> in an orchestra. I believe you're on MENVI too, right? If so, I 
> suggest posting it there as well, as I think there's a bit more traffic there. Anyhow...
>
> Rental music is tricky. I'm in a symphony orchestra as well, but I 
> play strings (violin/viola) so timing is more forgiving for me, but I 
> know for one-on-a-part wind players, it is not. Also, our group 
> doesn't do much rental music due to cost reasons anyway. Whether 
> learning by braille music or by ear, the lead time is very important. 
> (Honestly, almost all instrumentalists can't really read braille music 
> and play at the same time, which is kinda unfortunate, but just the 
> reality of human nature). I don't know how your orchestra works, but 
> if you're really in a difficult situation, I think it's not 
> unreasonable to sit out a show and just say you've got too much on 
> your plate right now, without putting your blindness into it. At least 
> for my orchestra, although all the winds and percussion are relatively 
> constant from performance to performance, it's not uncommon for string 
> players to sit out a few performances per season due to work/life 
> commitments, and if that happens to wind players, substitutes are 
> usually found. Either way, I would still be up front and honest about 
> your situation and explain that you really do need at least one month of lead time or whatever. I know this isn't easy, wishing you the best of luck.
> Ella
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 12:55 PM Catherine Getchell via MusicTlk < 
> musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'd love your collective wisdom on this. I'm just an amateur 
> > musician, but I'm very active in a community band, orchestra, and brass quintet.
> > Lately, the orchestra conductor has been choosing a lot of rental 
> > music rather than music we already have in our pretty vast library.
> > Since it's a community orchestra, they don't like to order the music 
> > until a few weeks before the first rehearsal, and often it doesn't 
> > arrive until a week or two beforehand.
> > I'm a one-on-a-part player (trumpet), so I don't have the option of 
> > taking my time to learn the music while the rest of the section 
> > plays it. It's got to be ready by the first rehearsal.  Music 
> > Braille isn't really an option for me in real-time because the 
> > trumpet requires both hands. And I'm faster at learning it by ear anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is proving more and more challenging as there is more and more 
> > rental music. The timeframe also often coincides with new music 
> > distributed by the other groups I play with, so my ability to stop 
> > everything and focus just on orchestra music for a couple weeks is 
> > limited.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have asked the librarian to work with the publishers to at least 
> > get my part ahead of time, or to order all the parts a little early, 
> > but I don't get a response to my emails to him. I've let the 
> > conductor know about the situation. The question I have for the 
> > group is: What is a reasonable ask in terms of getting music ahead 
> > of time? Ideally I'd like to have it all a couple months ahead so 
> > that I can "put it in the queue" so-to-speak, instead of having to 
> > drop everything and focus on orchestra music. I'm thinking of 
> > telling the group that if I don't have all the music a month ahead 
> > of time minimum, they should find a sub for me for that show. But 
> > I'm afraid that if I do this, they may decide that it's just easier 
> > to find a sighted player, even if they're not as strong. Has anyone 
> > had success in advocating for getting music ahead of time? Any tips 
> > and tricks? And what amount of lead time is reasonable to ask for? Thanks!
> >
> > Catherine
> >
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