[nabentre] supplemental income

Loren Wakefield isaiah5719 at mchsi.com
Wed Jul 1 20:16:30 UTC 2009 

Not liking the product would be a good reason to not sell it.  But not 
liking the product does not make it a scam.  And thanks for being honest and 
saying you do not know much about the business plan.  That's a fair 
response.  But before you label all mlm a scam, please become informed about 
it.  This does you and all of us a big service.


Loren Wakefield

"The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C. 
Shaklee

www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc

319-433-0145 866-433-3969


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income


> hi,
>
> i admit i don't know all the details but i can tell you i'm not stupid
> enough to fall for that one and a man came to my house trying to pitch
> monavie which tastes just as nasty.
> i never researched it past knowing the guy is stuck paying $160 a month 
> for
> the priviledge of being a distributor and doesn't really make anything
> unless he gets people to come in under his account.
> why would someone spend their time on research after seeing those red 
> flags
> and how the program works?
> Bryan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>
>
>> Okay, show me how it is a scam.  I am somewhat aware of the product you
>> mention.  However, I have not examined their business plan.  Evidently 
>> you
>> have, so tell us about it and how you make or do not make money with it.
>> And lets have specifics, not some general thing like bring others in and
>> screw them.  In other words, how does the product move?  How are the pay
>> checks issued and how do you earn the pay check?  Brian, you need not 
>> love
>> a particular form of business.  You may prefer to do business another 
>> way.
>> I'm sorry if you have had a bad experience with some mlm company. 
>> Chances
>> are pretty good however that you have also had bad experiences with a
>> franchise or corporate type store.  Many, if not all of us, can point to
>> bad experiences with a telemarketer or 12.  But that does not make the
>> entire industry a bad thing.  You and LIz both sound very bitter and
>> closed on this issue.  I'm curious as to why this is.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Loren Wakefield
>>
>> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
>> Shaklee
>>
>> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>
>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>
>>
>>> how many times or ways do i have to say it?
>>> more power to a legit operation but the deals like the noni juice i
>>> described are mlm scams.
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bob Clark" <bobclark4 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Lorin:
>>>>
>>>> You are wasting your time and engery with B.S.  He chooses to live in
>>>> his
>>>> own little naive world.  Spend your engery on open-minded people.
>>>>
>>>> Talk to you later.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Loren Wakefield <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:59 AM
>>>> To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>>
>>>> I agree, about the chocolate.
>>>>
>>>> But let's examine the accusation of being scammed.
>>>>
>>>> When you go to a movie, and tell someone about it, are you paid for
>>>> doing
>>>> that?  Most likely not.  When you buy a t-shirt of you favorite group,
>>>> movie, place of business, or even an organization such as (NFB), are 
>>>> you
>>>> re-imbursed for doing that?  Most likely, you pay to wear the shirt and
>>>> advertise for that entity.
>>>>
>>>> Whether it is officially done in a mlm style or not, most things are
>>>> mlm.
>>>> Though we are not to make any money at this, look at our onw 
>>>> outstanding
>>>> organization.  We have our individual blind and sighted interested
>>>> parties.
>>>> We have our local chapters.  We have our state affiliates.  We have our
>>>> divisions.  And finally, we have our national office.  And which way
>>>> does
>>>> the money flow?  It mostly flows upward.  And there is nothing wrong
>>>> with
>>>> this.  In most instances, the higher up the money is spent, the bigger
>>>> bang
>>>> for the buck that particular part of the organization can acdcomplish.
>>>>
>>>> When MLM is done correctly, you are rewarded for using and sharing your
>>>> "advertisements" with others.  The way you earn from a corporation is 
>>>> to
>>>> either work for them or own stock in them.  And guess what?  The more
>>>> involved with the corporation you are, the better your pay check.  And
>>>> to
>>>> me, that's how it should be.  Though it is a less and less popular 
>>>> view,
>>>> if
>>>> you go out and achieve and are rewarded for that achievement, I am not
>>>> entitled to it.  You earned it, you should keep it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Loren Wakefield
>>>>
>>>> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest C.
>>>> Shaklee
>>>>
>>>> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>>>
>>>> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf at roadrunner.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> well Amway is not BS, it's a dual level project, the products are 
>>>>> valid
>>>>> and
>>>>> do alright as sales, and the pyramid effect is used, but not in a 
>>>>> short
>>>>> blast like the now illegal pyramid games.
>>>>>
>>>>> but you do get a higher percentage as you rise, dove chocolate is a
>>>>> valid
>>>>> company as well, and if there doing this, it's probably like Amway 
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> more popular product (chocolate, who isn't interested in delicious
>>>>> chocolate!) I have had dove chocolate and its good! so should sell
>>>>> quite
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> inthane
>>>>>
>>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
>>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>> Owner: Agemtree
>>>>> "merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones"
>>>>> www.agemtree.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "be on your team",
>>>>>> is this that multi level marketing bs?
>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Scott Spaulding" <spaulding.scott at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List'" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a possible opportunity that I am involved in. The company is
>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>> Dove Chocolate Discoveries & you can learn about the company and the
>>>>>>> products at www.dove-chocolate-discoveries.com/scottspaulding. This
>>>>>>> opportunity is available for anyone to look into & if you are
>>>>>>> interested,
>>>>>>> I'd be happy to have you on my team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert J Smith
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: nabentre at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nabentre] supplemental income
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi list.  I have just subscribed because I need to make supplemental
>>>>>>> income for my family.  I am a programmer for my fulltime position 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> want to do something totally different for parttime.  I would like 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> sell
>>>>>>> something over the internet which the customer would run out of and
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to buy over and over.  I don't want to sell a product that would 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be personally delivered all over town because my wife won't do it.
>>>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>> enthusiastically invited me to be an online global Amway distributor
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is certainly worth considering, but I wanted to look around a little
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> not just take the first thing that came up, something like not 
>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> first house you might like.  One site I've been looking around in 
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> links that promise to "make money while I sleep" once I build my 
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> get things going.  This sounds a little too good to be true.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any suggestions for me, please send them to my home 
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> which is "bozbirdman at msn.com".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Smith
>>>>>>>
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