[nabs-l] Blind and Visually Impaired Teen Group on Facebook!

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Corb and listers,

    The spam argument is no excuse to deny individuals access to online Web 
and other applications. Perhaps all would be served by another method of 
verification. They exist and should be used to enable all individuals to 
access Web services.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corbb O'Connor" <corbbo at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blind and Visually Impaired Teen Group on Facebook!


Peter,
I empathize with your situation. Let me play devil's advocate here.
The sounds in audio captchas are distorted to stop spammers from using
speech-to-text conversion, and the distorted characters in the visual
captchas is to stop spammers from using OCR converters, like Kurzweil
uses. I have been thinking on this for awhile, and I don't see a
solution (pardon the pun) that still offers the webmaster a spam-free
system. As I said, I empathize with the deaf-blind who cannot use the
audio captchas, and I completely understand--as I am blind too--the
trouble the blind have with visual captchas. Any techies out there
that might know of a potential solution, I'm all ears! Actually -- I
do know that Google uses a system where they send an SMS text message
to confirm that you aren't a spammer, and I wonder how well that works
since a spammer could setup a cell phone relay to thwart the system.
Hmmmm! The debate continues!

Corbb

-----
Corbb O'Connor
studying at the National University of Ireland, Galway

On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:

Hello Sydney and listers,

  I really don't care! If you're deaf-blind you can't use the audio
captcha.
These mechanisms need to be designed so they can be read tactually and
audibly and the audio needs to be of a high-quality to enable those with
hearing issues to understand it. I've heard remedies of replacing
character
codes with every day sounds, but again if you're deaf-blind you can't
access
this verification. Please see my previous message for a possible
solution
for affiliates wishing to use social networks and other sites requiring
verification of one kind or another.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sydney Walker Freedman" <freedmas at stolaf.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blind and Visually Impaired Teen Group on
Facebook!


Hello there.  Just a quick note on the audio quality of the
verifications:  the sound is distorted on purpose in the same way that
the code is hidden in an image.  Hence, the quality isn't terrible;
the strange echos, backwards sounds in the background, etc. are there
on purpose, all for the sake of making sure we're human beings, not
spambots.  :)

Pax Christi,
Sydney


On 11/4/08, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
>    Why are we using outfits like Facebook if we're apposed to the
> use of
> visual verification?The audio quality is terrible, and deaf-blind
> youth
> can
> forget about this blog. Our own content management system should
> have been
> used to host this blog instead. What a shame!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carranza, Rosy" <RCarranza at nfb.org>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:17 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Blind and Visually Impaired Teen Group on Facebook!
>
>
> Hi Everybody,
> Please help me get the word out to high school students about our new
> Facebook group-- here is a description of the group:
>
> Attention blind and visually impaired high school students!
>
> Blindness 4 1 1 was created by the National Federation of the Blind to
> give you a place to meet other teens with vision loss and to give
> you a
> chance to learn about resources that can help you in school, at home
> and
> in your community.
>
> The NFB is the largest blindness organization in the United States. We
> have over 50,000 members who work hard to make a difference in the
> lives
> of blind people. We are excited to provide this resource to you and
> hope
> that you will tell your friends about us!
>
> If you are currently a Facebook member, go to groups, search for the
> group using our group name and request access to our group. If you are
> not signed up for Facebook then join in on the fun! Visit
> www.facebook.com to get connected with our NFB teen group.
>
> If you have any questions, call Rosy Carranza at 410 659-9314, ext.
> 2283
> or email her at rcarranza at nfb.org.
>
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