[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

Sarah Jevnikar sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca
Fri Nov 7 06:02:51 UTC 2008


I third it. That's ridiculous and unacceptable. They're violating your right
to an education and that's criminal.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:23 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

I second that one, Antonio and Franandiah.
Beth

On 11/6/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
> Hello Franandiah,
>
> There is no officially recognized point at which braille is the preferred
> method. In other words, there is no absolute test that says one should use
> braille if her sight is 20/500 or worst in the better eye, and the like.
>
> Your vision, 20/800, is very very, very limited. A good friend of mine had
> 20/200, and she knew and used braille when necessary. She is very low
> vision, and I can't imagine someone four times blinder than her not using
> braille.
>
> You know you need braille, but your school will not provide it. The simple
> fact you can not stand to read print, that you cry every day from
straining
> to read what you can't see, that you have no depth perception, and no
> peripheral vision would be more than enough to warrant using braille.
>
> It's pretty clear to me that your school is refusing to provide you a
> service you need to continue your education. don't let it happen.
>
> I am providing you with the e-mail and phone number to the NFB President
in
> your state in a separate, private message. Get in touch.
>
> I am a Christian myself, but do not think attending a Christian school is
> necessary to maintain your faith. If you end up not receiving services,
you
> should either leave the school, or pressure them into providing you with
the
> right to read.
>
> The bottom line for them is that braille is expensive, and they will do
what
> it takes not to spend that kind of money. Again: don't let that happen.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Antonio Guimaraes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>>I live in Michigan. The problem is, because I go to a Christian
>> school, public services cannot do much because of the separation of
>> church and state. So, I'm really stuck. My question is, what type of
>> vision loss is needed to state that braille should be used as the
>> dominate medium instead of large print?
>>
>> On 11/5/08, Dezman Jackson <jackson.dezman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Franandiah,
>>> This is a crying shame.
>>> What state are you in? Perhaps there's someone on the list from the same
>>> area or perhaps we can network you with some resources to get you what
>>> you
>>> need.
>>>
>>> Dezman
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but that is
>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me. My
>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you have
>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would do
>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much longer, I
>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>> academic
>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Ashley
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