[nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
H. Field
missheather at comcast.net
Fri Nov 14 20:05:36 UTC 2008
Hi Beth,
I suggest that you try being a bit more creative in solving your
problem.
I suggested that you buy an inexpensive tray and bring it with you to
the dining-hall. You responded that this was not a good option,
because you would have to carry it around with you all day.
I would suggest that you bring it to the dining-hall and ask them if
they mind you keeping your tray there in an easily accessed place. I'm
sure the staff would be happy to assist you in increasing your own
independence, confidence and competence. For them to take three
minutes, one time, assisting you to figure out a good place to keep
your tray, rather than to take ten minutes every day to serve you your
food and assist you to find a seat and a drink is by far the best
option for the staff.
As blind people we need to be creative in finding what works for us,
especially when people are either unable or unwilling, or both, to
help.
Regards,
Heather Field
It doesn't sound hard at all, if one decides that they'd like to do
it.
Best regards,
Heather Field
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
YOu might be right, Peter. However, we don't have trays at the dining
hall as I've said, and it's very crowded during peak hours. I like it
better when a friend is with me that I can actually trusdt.
Beth
On 11/13/08, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I would respectfully disagree with the comment that Serena's friend
> Anthony made about having others bring food to you. For me there's
> something really good about going to get my own food even if
> someone
> is with me to help me find stuff or carry it. It's not just about
> proving yourself or making a point to someone else that I can do
> it.
> It's that I want to be there to decide what's going to end up on
> my
> plate. If I let someone else do it for me, no matter how nice and
> trustworthy they may be, people make mistakes. I don't want to leave
> it up to someone else to remember that I like meat loaf and don't
> like pork chops, or that I really love spaghetti and will go crazy
> when that's on the buffet but I'd prefer a more moderate portion
> when it's fried chicken. I also want the freedom to decide on the
> spot
> how much of each food I want when it's right in front of me and I
> know
> what my other choices are.
>
> This is the same reason why they teach us at NFB training centers
> to always put the food in the cart ourselves when we shop with
> customer service assistance. It's not that we want to be
> anal-retentive about independence. It's that we want to be sure
> we're
> spending our money on the items we actually want and not being
> accidentally given the gigantic container of fruit that we'll never
> eat, for instance, instead of the medium-sized portion that we
> actually want to buy.
>
> Beyond the more pragmatic concern, there's something really cool
> about going to a party or other social activity with sighted peers
> and walking around freely and getting your own stuff. I spent most
> of
> my childhood not knowing what that was like because most people
> expected me to stay in one place and be helped by the sighted
> people
> around me because that was "easier" in their eyes. Recently as I
> have learned so much from the NFB members around me, I have begun
> to
> assert my independence more and more in these kinds of situations
> and to put myself out there as an independent blind person from the
> get-go when I meet new people. When I go to a party now and walk
> around freely, people expect me to be pretty much like everyone else
> and it makes it that much easier to socialize with them as an
> equal.
> That doesn't mean I don't occasionally use sighted guide or enlist
> assistance from others, but I really enjoy having the control to
> decide when and how I want to be assisted.
>
> I can't overemphasize the value of spending some time at one of
> our
> training centers, and going to our national conventions and other
> NFB
> events, where blind people do these kinds of things on an everyday
> basis. These are the best places to really see how others handle
> these tough situations, and to get the real-world education and
> practice that will ultimately make them less tough and more
> rewarding.
>
> Cheers
> Arielle
>
>
> On 11/14/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It was an employee who said they don't get paid to help a blind
>> customer. ell, they should be paid to help customers, all of them,
>> not just cook and wash dishes.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 11/13/08, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Hope,
>>>
>>> I do that too. I ask an employee to assist me in walking around
>>> to the
>>> stations. My cafeteria is not as big as yours but its nice. They
>>> have
>>> table cloths there and napkin holders on the tables. The chairs
>>> are some
>>> of
>>> the most comfortable on campus, much better than what we have in
>>> class.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>
>>>
>>>> HiBeth. I'm not sure how your cafeteria is set up, but if I go
>>>> to the
>>>> union, the central cafeteria in my college, which is very big, I
>>>> go to
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> cash register and ask someone to assist me in walking around to
>>>> each
>>>> station. Then they'll assist me with ringing me up and to find a
>>>> table.
>>>> This cafeteria is really big. One big room with another room
>>>> coming off
>>>> of that and stairs everywhere. There are balconies to sit on,
>>>> too.
>>>> It's
>>>>
>>>> a nice place, but I don't like the size. Smile. As far as what
>>>> the
>>>> woman
>>>>
>>>> said, it was uncalled for. Was that an employee that told you
>>>> this, or
>>>> merely a student?
>>>>
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:49:24 -0500
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>>The reason the staff doesn't want to help at peak hours is
>>>> because
>>>>>there are less of them doing more work. The manager e-mailed me
>>>> today
>>>>>when I sent him an e-mail. I e-mailed the location manager
>>>> saying
>>>>>what was up, and he said why not sit down and let somene just
>>>> bring it
>>>>>to me. Well, not a bad idea. But I'll have to let him know if
>>>> it
>>>>>appens again. Honestly, I'm more worried about obtaining my
>>>> basic
>>>>>needs right about now. But I could get my own tray, but then I'd
>>>> have
>>>>>to carry it around all day. But then there's this one lady who
>>>> said
>>>>>the staff isn't paid to serve a blind customer. I mean, not in
>>>> that
>>>>>manner we're talking about. I didn't appreciate the woman's
>>>> comments
>>>>>as much as I don't appreciate bad service or help forthousands of
>>>>>dollars in a meal plan contract, even though Florida's Division
>>>> of
>>>>>Blind Services sponsors it. It's still thousands of taxpayer
>>>> dollars
>>>>>going into MY meal plan.
>>>>>Beth
>>>>
>>>>>On 11/13/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Honestly, I don't see why the staff doesn't wanna help you. I
>>>> don't mean to
>>>>>> say they owe you anything, but I even got help carrying my food
>>>> in college.
>>>>>> The trays they had there were simply too big for my really
>>>>>> small
>>>> hands. I
>>>>>> think some of the staff weren't too into the idea at first, but
>>>> then, the
>>>>>> managers got everybody on board. I realize now, I could've
>>>> bought my own
>>>>>> tray before going to college, but I guess I felt orienting to
>>>> campus and
>>>>>> dealing with hiring and firing readers was more important than
>>>> trying to
>>>>>> deal with the cafeteria scene.
>>>>
>>>>>> Serena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Good idea. I'll have to go sometime, but how do I deal with
>>>>>>> the
>>>> staff
>>>>>>> problem now whle I don't have a tray?
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/13/08, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Beth,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want to shop at Walmart or somewhere paratransit is
>>>>>>>> not a
>>>> good
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> since they can be unreliable keeping you waiting or come
>>>>>>>> before
>>>> your are
>>>>>>>> finished shopping.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd suggest getting a ride. Much easier said than done. I
>>>>>>>> had
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>> too. But ask around. Ask your hall mates. Ask your
>>>>>>>> roommate
>>>> if she
>>>>>>>> drives. Any friendly faculty or staff? Once or twice a nice
>>>> nursing
>>>>>>>> faculty member gave me a ride to the mall. If you do get a
>>>>>>>> ride
>>>> offer to
>>>>>>>> pay gas or something for it.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good idea. However, I have a problem with the paratransit
>>>>>>>>> bus
>>>>>>>>> service. Since I live in a dorm, I can't necessarily
>>>>>>>>> designate
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> place for the paratransit driver to pick me up. Worse, I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> to wait
>>>>>>>>> an hour more than necessary for them to pick me back up.
>>>>>>>>> Hence,
>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> friend and I have nicknamed it "dial-a-wait."
>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Beth,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What about paratransite? I have a friend who schedules
>>>>>>>>>> them to
>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> him to a particular place, and then pick him up in their
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>> window
>>>>>>>>>> of opportunity.
>>>>>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Good thinking, Heather. Trick is to get someone with a
>>>>>>>>>>> car to
>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>> me down there.
>>>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, H. Field <missheather at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Beth,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take your own tray to the dining hall with you.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Places like Walmart have a huge array of tray choices,
>>>>>>>>>>>> many of
>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> value for money. Spend half an hour choosing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive
>>>> tray
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> would most fit your needs. Then, simply take your own
>>>>>>>>>>>> tray with
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> all of your meals in the dining-hall. This will improve
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be independent and will lessen the ability of others
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>> impact
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heather Field
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank God I found this e-mail, Arielle. I'm having a
>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with staff at my dining hall who are not willing to help
>>>>>>>>>>>> me get
>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> food or serve myself. Since I have to hold a cane in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>> hand
>>>>>>>>>>>> and since they don't have trays and since the stations
>>>>>>>>>>>> are mre
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> one and helter-skelter and since nobody taught me how to
>>>> maneuver
>>>>>>>>>>>> around that big cafeteria, I'm blown away by how rude the
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff
>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> behaved lately. During peak hours, I'd walk in and say
>>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>> needed
>>>>>>>>>>>> some help, and nobody helps out. Their excuse? Short
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>>>>> to a few people on the matter, and since the cafeteria
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to help, they say I should talk to a manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> about this.
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> wish I could see now so that I could serve myself and not
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hold
>>>>>>>>>>>> a cane in my right hand and not have to be so precise
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>> holding
>>>>>>>>>>>> stand-alone bowls and stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With serving food as a blind person there are two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. The
>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is knowing what you're dishing out without seeing it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is properly maneuvering the food with the utensils from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>>>> container to your plate and ensuring that you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dishing up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate amount.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To resolve the first issue, since touching is not really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>> option,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the best thing is to get information--either from people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahead
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the buffet line or from whomever is serving the
>>>> food/setting up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the buffet. Obviously once you've learned the order of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> buffet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once, it'll be easier to go back and serve oneself
>>>> independently
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second time around. When serving "family-style" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> passing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around the table, this problem is virtually nonexistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy to find out what someone has passed you before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself from it.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second issue, though, is one that does take practice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>> overcome
>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially for those of us who were not expected to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> growing up. I wasn't really expected to do it at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> until I
>>>> was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teenager, which caused me to struggle a bit with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanics
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maneuvering the food and gauging the portion size. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved
>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this a lot when I was in training at the Louisiana
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center
>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to serve ourselves in a buffet line (with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sleepshades on)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whenever someone prepared their final cooking project (a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meal
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forty). Like others have said, operating the utensils
>>>> correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take practice and trial and error. A training center is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to develop this skill because everyone else is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> practicing, too,
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's not as much pressure to do it exactly right or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the line. You can also practice by cooking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something and transferring some of it from one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> container to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even if it's just Ramen or Easy Mac).
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To gauge portion sizes I've used two techniques. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to
>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much weight I've added to my plate or bowl and how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> weight is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed. The other, if it's hot or steaming food
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serving, is to hold my hand a little above the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plate/bowl and
>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much heat is rising from the food and how far it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>> spreading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I don't have enough food, there won't be much heat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it'll
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confined to one little spot instead of spreading across
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a wide
>>>> area.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One more thing that hasn't come up yet is the proper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soup, stew, etc. with a ladel. I used to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> toughest
>>>> time with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this until I went to the center and figured out what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because ladels have a sharp curve in the middle, when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>> holding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the handle straight, the bowl part of the ladel was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tipped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I was spilling stuff before I could get it in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl. I
>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure out how to angle the handle (so it felt crooked)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the
>>>> bowl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was actually facing straight up. I think other blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been fooled by this deceptive handle as well which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I
>>>> bring it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. You can practice this by playing with an empty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ladel
>>>> (like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing dishes) and hold the bowl in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-dominant
>>>> hand
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while you angle the handle with your dominant one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bend the
>>>> handle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> until you can feel that the bowl is facing straight up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the handle will feel crooked) and then try to remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> angle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are serving things with the ladel.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pretty much use the same type of bowl, what we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Italians call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maccaroni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl, so i usually just put as much maccaroni in there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as will
>>>> fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to eat! lol Meat is trickier, but I usually have only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhogue at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serena, this may sound like a slightly silly question,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but do
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an appropriate portion size is by weight, etc, or by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ladle-fulls,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoon-fulls, etc? I have never really wanted to do that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to slowly anybody down or look awkward, etc. But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree
>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:47 PM
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I always serve my own food at home with immidate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family. I
>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important to learn that skill. At family gatherings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and on
>>>> buffet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lines,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, others do it for me cause we're all having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. Even at State Convention this weekend, there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a
>>>> survor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast buffet to everyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <harryhogue at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the holidays coming up, here's an interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At family gatherings, or perhaps even at home with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family, do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve your own plate or do you have someone else serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for you?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for me, I have always had someone else always serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plate
>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gatherings and at home with my family, for that matter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker and there is less risk of spilling, etc. I am,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reminded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance of being comfortable with this task by my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Costa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rica
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host mother told me what was where and even made sure I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew
>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoon was--but I was not comfortable at 20 years old to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own plate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to ask her to serve the plate for me. This, then,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precedent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a blind person I needed help with getting food.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'm interested in hearing ohter thoughts. And if we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serve
>>>> ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home/at family gatherings, I then have to ask what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>> diferent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buffets,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if you're with someone else and they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chicken, potatoes, etc. and it's likely you would want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just some thoughts to consider.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>
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