[nabs-l] nabs-l Letter of accommodations
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Fri Apr 17 20:12:42 UTC 2009
Jordan,
I have been on both sides of this situation, having been a student needing
accommodations and also working at a college Disability Services Office
helping others obtain the accommodations they need. I think each student
first needs to figure out what role they wish to play in his or her own
education.
For example, if you want to take a more back-seat approach, meaning you
want DSS to get your books, talk to your professors, schedule your exams, then
it might make sense for you to let them write the letter. However, if you
want to be more involved in your education, and if you are willing to
advocate for yourself, then you may want to decide whether you want or need a
letter at all.
You are entitled to accommodations as a blind person. But only you know
which ones work best and which ones are unnecessary for you. For example,
if you have a laptop or notetaker, you wouldn't need or want someone in your
classes taking notes for you, right? Well, the DSS office might not know
that. And if they are the mechanism used to convey to your professor what
you need, then you'll always be an outsider to your own education.
Some on this list have mentioned the letter as a contract between the
teacher and the student. It will again, be up to you whether or not you feel a
"contract" is necessary. The instructor cannot deny you an accommodation
simply because you didn't submit the request in writing in advance in the
form of a contract. But if you feel more comfortable writing out your
expectations for the instructor and also providing a guide for what he or she
should expect, then that makes sense.
For myself, I always went over to introduce myself to my instructors just
as soon as I registered for the following semester. At that time, I asked
the instructor which textbooks and materials he or she intended to use and
also explained my blindness and which accommodations I would need. This
conversation usually took place in the middle of the semester prior to the
course in question, so that gave me a great deal of time to acquire the books
and work out accommodations. I offered to put the accommodations I would
need in writing, and some of the instructors accepted, but others took notes
and said they wouldn't need my write-up. I did encounter a few that
wouldn't agree to provide accommodations until they received verification of my
disability. In those situations, I would ask the DSS Office to write a
letter stating simply that I was registered with their office as having a
disability and that I would be making any and all arrangements for
accommodations myself. And that worked really well for me.
If you want to talk more about this, or if you have any questions, feel
free to get in touch with me off-list.
Good luck.
Ronza
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1. MathDaisy 1.0 Released (Neil Soiffer)
2. Re: FW: a new type of captcha (T. Joseph Carter)
3. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Serena)
4. PLEASE READ] Changes to NLS Download Service
(NLSDownload NLSDownload)
5. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Lora)
6. Re: GABS Fundraiser (cowboy0210 at gmail.com)
7. Re: Job seekers- disclosing disability (Bill)
8. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Bill)
9. (no subject) (Hannah G Furney)
10. Re: (no subject) (Dave Webster)
11. Re: Sustaining a student division in a rural state (Lora)
12. OT- Looking for travel compainions to go on a 10ish-day trip
exploreing Yosemetee and Sequoia National Parks in California
(Jim Reed)
13. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Sarah Alawami)
14. Re: (no subject) (Jacob Struiksma)
15. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Jacob Struiksma)
16. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors (Haben Girma)
17. Re: Member (Jess)
18. Re: OT- Looking for travel compainions to go on a 10ish-day
trip exploreing Yosemetee and Sequoia National Parks in
California (Nefertiti Matos Olivares)
19. Re: Job seekers- disclosing disability (Len Burns)
20. Re: Member (Jason Mandarino)
21. Re: Accommedations Letter to Professors
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22. Re: Science advice (Angela fowler)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:23:51 -0500
From: Neil Soiffer <Neils at dessci.com> (by way of David Andrews
<dandrews at visi.com>)
Subject: [nabs-l] MathDaisy 1.0 Released
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Message-ID: <auto-000097771396 at mailfront2.g2host.com>
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Apologies for the commercial nature of this post, but it is something of
interest to many people on the list...
We at Design Science are happy to announce the release of our newest
product, MathDaisy. Many educational institutions now require teachers,
instructors, and professors to make classroom materials accessible to
students with disabilities. MathDaisy makes it possible to save
Microsoft Word documents containing equations as a DAISY book that can
be read by students on a personal computer or a dedicated eBook reader.
The press release has been published on our website at
http://www.dessci.com/en/company/press/releases/090413.htm
Our hope is that MathDaisy together with Word's Save as DAISY makes it
easy
enough to publish DAISY "books" with math in them that anyone can, and more
importantly, will create accessible material to give to their students,
colleagues, etc.
Neil Soiffer
Senior Scientist
Design Science, Inc.
www.dessci.com
~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, WebEQ, Equation
Editor ~
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:39 -0700
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: a new type of captcha
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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We've had a nice discussion about how people assume that hard for
humans is hard for computers, and that it isn't generally so. We
talked about how the current audio CAPTCHAs are often harder to use
for some of us than getting someone to read the printed ones.
The creator doesn't really understand the algorithmic aspects of
audio manipulation. I explained what PCM samples are (16 bit signed
numbers representing sound waveform amplitude over time for the nerds
on the list) and that mixing two sounds was just a matter of adding
them together and clipping the waveform if necessary. (You don't
want it to be since that distorts sound.)
So the developer is open to coming up with an equivalent we can use,
but doesn't really know how to do it. In the meantime, given the
choice between having us unable to use the site and having the site
clogged with spam, however, we lose.
Joseph
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 06:14:30PM -0400, Liz Bottner wrote:
>Cool. Thanks for posting your findings. I, for one, definitely appreciate
>it. I would be interested to know if they follow up on your response.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:02:52 -0400
From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Hi Jordan
Do you really think you or the DSS Office has to write a letter to your
profs. in the first place? Blind people have a right to simply walk into
class, without any special explanation, just like sighted people. When I
was in college, the disability person wrote letters for me, without asking
me if I wanted her to. I guess, I didn't think to say no to it at that
time. My wheelchair using friend Anthony, however, requested that the
disability person not write accommodations letters for him cuz he believed
he didn't need any special introduction just cuz he uses a wheelchair.
Serena
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
hi all,
i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i had
heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have the
DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do the
latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
thx,
--
Jordan Richardson
lilrichie411 at gmail.com
?What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies?
--Aristotle
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:53 -0500
From: NLSDownload NLSDownload <NLSDownload at loc.gov> (by way of David
Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>)
Subject: [nabs-l] PLEASE READ] Changes to NLS Download Service
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To all users of the NLS download pilot service:
The pilot phase of the NLS downloadable audiobooks and magazines
service will end April 28, 2009. It will be replaced by the permanent
service Braille and Audio Reading Download (BARD), which you will be
able to access at a new web site, https://nlsbard.loc.gov, beginning
Thursday, April 30, 2009.
Users who know their passwords will be able to log on to the new site;
users who rely on their browsers to remember their passwords will need
new ones (follow instructions in Section II). All user accounts will be
migrated to the new system, so you do not need to reapply. All
materials previously downloaded will remain usable, so you will not need
to redownload your reading material.
This message describes what???s new about BARD and explains what steps
must be taken to access the new site. Please read the entire message
carefully.
Section I. What???s new about BARD:
1. Unlimited downloading. The BARD service will no longer limit the
number of books and magazines that you may download. Any account holder
may download any item at any time. During heavy demand, however, NLS
may limit the number of simultaneous downloads for each account.
2. New logon page. The site login will now use a form rather than a
dialog box. It is the same type of logon found on most Internet pages
and should be immediately familiar to users of other sites. This is an
important note for screen-reader users.
3. New search functionality. BARD searches will yield more effective
results. The use of multiple search terms will return only results
containing all of the terms.
4. New ???Most Popular Books??? list. By selecting the ???Most Popular
Book??? link from the home page, users may access a list of the top
twenty most downloaded books on the BARD service in the last ninety
days. Fiction and nonfiction titles will be listed separately.
5. Redesigned magazine section. The ???Recently Added Magazines???
link will now display links to only the most recent issue of each
magazine. Magazines older than one year may be accessed from each
title???s magazine archive. Links to the archive are at the bottom of
each magazine???s page.
Section II. Take the following steps to access the new site:
1. You must know your login ID and password to log on to the new site.
For all users, your login ID is your e-mail address.
2. If you know your login ID and password, you will not need to do
anything. Simply access the new site, https://nlsbard.loc.gov, starting
Thursday, April 30.
3. If you have forgotten your password, you must obtain a new one
before you can log on to the new site. Since the new site has a
different address from the pilot site, you cannot rely on your web
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must choose a new password. To do so, select the link ???Update My
Settings??? from the site home page. From the settings page, select the
first link, ???Change Your Password.??? Enter your new password twice,
and then select the ???Change Password??? button. Remember this new
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Enter your e-mail address and then select the ???Send Me a New
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:01:54 -0600
From: Lora <blindhistory at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
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It is just a formality and legality. I have had problems with professors
who
have gone back on their part of the letter. By having them sign the letter
you have a signature to back you up.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Jordan
>
> Do you really think you or the DSS Office has to write a letter to your
> profs. in the first place? Blind people have a right to simply walk into
> class, without any special explanation, just like sighted people. When I
> was in college, the disability person wrote letters for me, without
asking
> me if I wanted her to. I guess, I didn't think to say no to it at that
> time. My wheelchair using friend Anthony, however, requested that the
> disability person not write accommodations letters for him cuz he
believed
> he didn't need any special introduction just cuz he uses a wheelchair.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Richardson" <
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "MnABS listserve" <mn-abs at nfbnet.org>; "WABS
listserv"
> <wabs at nfbwis.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:58 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
>
>
> hi all,
> i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
> that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i
had
> heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have
the
> DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me
to
> just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do
the
> latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
> thx,
>
> --
> Jordan Richardson
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com
> ?What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies?
> --Aristotle
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:15:59 +0000
From: cowboy0210 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] GABS Fundraiser
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Dear Mr. Wilcox,
Good eveving. How soon will shirts actually be physically available? Is
there a remote possibility Mr. Anil Lewis might be able to bring a couple
next weekend to the Utah State convention?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Isaiah Wilcox <iwilcox2011 at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:32:03
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] GABS Fundraiser
THIS JUST IN! THIS JUST IN!
The Georgia Association of Blind Students (GABS) is selling some
fabulous T-Shirts for their first fundraiser. A description of the
shirt is as follows: The shirt is of a royal blue color. Printed on
the front of the shirt is the Whoseit logo along with the unique
saying, ?Everyday People Living Life Everyday!? beneath it in an
elegant metallic silver. GABS would like for you to support our first
fundraiser by purchasing a shirt. One shirt, sized small to extra-
large, costs only twelve dollars. And a shirt sized 2X or 3X is just
an additional three dollars. If you would like to purchase a shirt,
please contact me either by e-mail or by phone. Just send me your
name, your telephone number, your e-mail address, your mailing
address, and the sizes and quantity of shirts that you want. The way
that we are going to distribute the shirts are by mail: once we
receive your payment, we will mail your shirt(s) to you. I have
picture of the shirt if you would like to view it before you buy it.
As always, the Georgia Association of Blind Students appreciates your
support. Thanks in advanced.
Isaiah Wilcox
Phone: 404-291-7791
E-mail: iwilcox2011 at gmail.com
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:47:40 -0700
From: Bill <cassonw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job seekers- disclosing disability
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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I was under the impression that employers were required to provide
'reasonable' accomidations. This article seems to imply that they are not
obligated if they did not know about your disability when they hired you.
the law does not allow for employers to use your disibility at all in their
selection process. In OR i believe that employers aren't even allowed to
ask about disabilities. I imagine that one can extend the law to not allow
for preference to be given to disabled applicants either since you would
be
choosing on non-relevant baseies. Unfortunatly those of us with physical
disabilities have less choice about disclosure then other potentionally
disabled applicants. Joseph has said to me that employers will be more
likely to hire you if they can see how you would be able to forfill the
position. Convincing the employer of this can be hard. It would seem that
an interview would be a good place to discuss this, but you would much
prefer that the interview focused on your own skills and not details that
should not effect their desision.
Just my two cents,
Bill VP
Oregon Association of Blind Students
503-768-8982
cassonw at gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> As the summer-job seeking season is upon us, and as the economy forces
> others out of work, I thought the following would be useful to some of
> you. It deals with how/when to disclose your blindness to an employer.
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_jsdisc.hcsp
>
> I Hope some find it useful. I have an interview tomarrow with Montana
Fish,
> Wildlife, and Parks. I guess I will see how it works then.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:02:08 -0700
From: Bill <cassonw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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Hi,
I think there is a significant likely difference in the two cases. I think
that being a blind person you probably have more accomidations then the
person in the wheel chair. Here the letters are not of introduction but
rather of the accomidations you require. Obviously if you have none i see
no reason to bother with the letter. I think the letters make it more
likely that professors will cooperate with requests when they have the DSS
office tell them they need to do something. You might just chat and if
the
professor is being unaccomidating, ask the DSS person to send them a
letter. I personally like the letters so when i tell the professor i need
this, they already know how it is supposed to work and i don't have to
explain the legistics.
Bill
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Jordan
>
> Do you really think you or the DSS Office has to write a letter to your
> profs. in the first place? Blind people have a right to simply walk into
> class, without any special explanation, just like sighted people. When I
> was in college, the disability person wrote letters for me, without
asking
> me if I wanted her to. I guess, I didn't think to say no to it at that
> time. My wheelchair using friend Anthony, however, requested that the
> disability person not write accommodations letters for him cuz he
believed
> he didn't need any special introduction just cuz he uses a wheelchair.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jordan Richardson" <
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "MnABS listserve" <mn-abs at nfbnet.org>; "WABS
listserv"
> <wabs at nfbwis.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:58 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
>
>
>
> hi all,
> i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
> that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i
had
> heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have
the
> DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
> just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do
the
> latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
> thx,
>
> --
> Jordan Richardson
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com
> ?What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies?
> --Aristotle
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:04:54 -0400
From: Hannah G Furney <hfurney at bgsu.edu>
Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject)
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Hi. I just turned 21, and I have a qestion about that. I was wondering
if anyone could give me information on the issue of going to a bar when you
are blind. Thanks.
Hannah Furney
National Federation of the Blind
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:11:55 -0400
From: Dave Webster <computerguy6428 at samobile.net>
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I use to go to bars and drink all the time.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:37:26 -0600
From: Lora <blindhistory at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sustaining a student division in a rural state
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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For the time being could you have the officers also be board members? What
my state has doneis that we have combined the secretary/treasurer position
into one position held by one person which has helped some.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Jim Reed. I am president of the Montana Association of Blind
> Students (MABS). I am puting this email out to reach out to other student
> division leaders for advice.
>
> Background:
> The whole state of Montana has a population of less than 1 million.
> The largest city in Montana has approx 100,000
> The two largest universities in the state have a combined enrollment of
> approx 50,000
> The largest university has less than 10 blind students
> The MABS has approx 5 members
> The MABS consitution requires 4 officers (pres, VP, secretary, treasurer)
> and 4 board members
> The MABS has less total membership than we have officer/board positions.
>
> I am trying to convince our members that we need to restructure our
> leadership to reduce the number of people required, as I personally doubt
> the MABS will ever have more than 10 members.
>
> I am running into resistance as some members seem to believe that our
> organization will grow. One person is making the argument that it is ok
to
> leave an empty board as the student population is transient anyway. I
> disagree on both counts.
>
> In the meantime, we have no board, and we have only filled our secretary
> position. With out a board, we are essentially stalled, as I dont know
what
> I can do indepoendently before I cross the line from being a president to
> being a dictator.
>
> I would be curious to hear what some of our other rural [presidents have
to
> say.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:49:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] OT- Looking for travel compainions to go on a
10ish-day trip exploreing Yosemetee and Sequoia National Parks in
California
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Hey all,
I was just kicking around the idea of planning a 10-14 day
camping/backpacking trip to check out California's Yosemitee, Sequoia, and King's Canyon
National Parks. I am looking for a couple of people to come along. I was
thinking sometime in June. The closest airport would be Sacramento, CA.? If
you think you might be interested, let me know.
Thanks,
Jim
"Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:51:35 -0700
From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
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I have to follow the rules of the disability office . I am by nature a rule
follower pluss it makes things a little easier for me as it already lists
the accomadations I am elegable for for that school. But that's just my 2
sense worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Serena
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:03 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
Hi Jordan
Do you really think you or the DSS Office has to write a letter to your
profs. in the first place? Blind people have a right to simply walk into
class, without any special explanation, just like sighted people. When I
was in college, the disability person wrote letters for me, without asking
me if I wanted her to. I guess, I didn't think to say no to it at that
time. My wheelchair using friend Anthony, however, requested that the
disability person not write accommodations letters for him cuz he believed
he didn't need any special introduction just cuz he uses a wheelchair.
Serena
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Richardson" <lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "MnABS listserve" <mn-abs at nfbnet.org>; "WABS
listserv"
<wabs at nfbwis.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
hi all,
i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i had
heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have the
DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do the
latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
thx,
--
Jordan Richardson
lilrichie411 at gmail.com
"What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies"
--Aristotle
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:21:00 -0700
From: "Jacob Struiksma" <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] (no subject)
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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What do you want to know about going to bar as blind person?
From
Jacob Struiksma
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Of Hannah G Furney
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:05 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject)
Hi. I just turned 21, and I have a qestion about that. I was wondering if
anyone could give me information on the issue of going to a bar when you
are
blind. Thanks.
Hannah Furney
National Federation of the Blind
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:22:52 -0700
From: "Jacob Struiksma" <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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I would write my own letter. You are the person taking the class and blind
so you know what you need and do not need.
From
Jacob Struiksma
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From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Jordan Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:59 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; MnABS listserve;
WABS listserv
Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
hi all,
i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i had
heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have the
DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do the
latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
thx,
--
Jordan Richardson
lilrichie411 at gmail.com
"What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies"
--Aristotle
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:33:41 -0700
From: Haben Girma <habnkid at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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Hey Jordan, before I was even sure of attending this college I contacted
the DSS office to alert them to what I would need and to ask them how
they would go about fulfilling those accommodations. They've used the
information I've given them to compose letters to my professors. Each
term I always have a talk with professors before and after class because
the messages in that letter don't always get through. This semester I
plan to introduce my professors to the braille process and our embosser
before fall term even begins. That way I hope that things will move
smoothly from day one, and not week two.
As to your question, it really all depends on the folks at your DSS
office. Do you trust them to write a good letter? If you don't, then you
should definitely write it yourself and let the DSS office know you'll
do that, perhaps just to keep open those friendly communication channels.
good luck,
Haben
Jordan Richardson wrote:
> hi all,
> i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
> that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i
had
> heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have
the
> DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
> just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do
the
> latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
> thx,
>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:29:49 -0400
From: "Jess" <jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Member
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <25627131D12B48C88CFD67DD080074AB at Jessica>
Miranda,
What pare the United States are you in because they have regionally
people
that would be put in charge of reach you? Also Terri may not be the
right
person for you to be contacting. Also if you go to
http://www.nabslinks.org
you can join Nabs a large with out having to join a state affiliate.
Jessica
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From: "Miranda brown" <brownbears at mchsi.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Member
> Hi,
>
> I joined the NABS mailing list a couple of months ago. I was wanting to
> join
> the NABS division and I have tried to email Terri a couple of times over
> the
> last couple of months and and have not heard anything back. Does anyone
> know how I can join the division?
>
> Miranda
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:31:06 -0400
From: Nefertiti Matos Olivares <nefamphetamine at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] OT- Looking for travel compainions to go on a
10ish-day trip exploreing Yosemetee and Sequoia National Parks in
California
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Would I ever be interested! Do you have an agenda ready?
On 4/17/09, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
> I was just kicking around the idea of planning a 10-14 day
> camping/backpacking trip to check out California's Yosemitee, Sequoia,
and
> King's Canyon National Parks. I am looking for a couple of people to come
> along. I was thinking sometime in June. The closest airport would be
> Sacramento, CA.? If you think you might be interested, let me know.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
> "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
>
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:40:40 -0700
From: Len Burns <len at gatamundo.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Job seekers- disclosing disability
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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My own experience is that there is the law, and then the strategic
choices you need to make to maximize your chances of being hired. If
somebody does not want to hire you, there are dozens of ways to justify
this without overtly mentioning blindness.
I neither emphasize nor de-emphasize my blindness. It is simply an
aspect of who I am in life. I deal with this with potential employers
in exactly the same manner. I am matter of fact, and practical. If I
need an accommodation in the hiring process, I might choose to discuss
my blindness in that context. If not, I manage it in the interview
itself. I often ask outright of any concerns held by the interviewers
so that I may dispell them in the open. I know that what is not asked
is a lot more dangerous to me than what is out on the table.
-Len
Bill wrote:
> I was under the impression that employers were required to provide
> 'reasonable' accomidations. This article seems to imply that they are
not
> obligated if they did not know about your disability when they hired you.
> the law does not allow for employers to use your disibility at all in
their
> selection process. In OR i believe that employers aren't even allowed to
> ask about disabilities. I imagine that one can extend the law to not
allow
> for preference to be given to disabled applicants either since you would
be
> choosing on non-relevant baseies. Unfortunatly those of us with physical
> disabilities have less choice about disclosure then other potentionally
> disabled applicants. Joseph has said to me that employers will be more
> likely to hire you if they can see how you would be able to forfill the
> position. Convincing the employer of this can be hard. It would seem
that
> an interview would be a good place to discuss this, but you would much
> prefer that the interview focused on your own skills and not details that
> should not effect their desision.
> Just my two cents,
> Bill VP
> Oregon Association of Blind Students
> 503-768-8982
> cassonw at gmail.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> As the summer-job seeking season is upon us, and as the economy forces
>> others out of work, I thought the following would be useful to some of
>> you. It deals with how/when to disclose your blindness to an employer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_jsdisc.hcsp
>>
>> I Hope some find it useful. I have an interview tomarrow with Montana
Fish,
>> Wildlife, and Parks. I guess I will see how it works then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:56:39 -0400
From: "Jason Mandarino" <blind.subscriber at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Member
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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Miranda,
My first question is regarding where you live. Most states ideally have a
student division, but due to the need of student participation and
leadership, that is not always the case.
If you visit the Student Division main site:
www.nabslink.org
You will find a link that is labeled State Divisions.
This will give you a message about not being completed, but if you keep
scrolling you will receive a list of states with the appropriate contact.
Now a few states are also being reorganized due to a lack of leadership, or
other reasons. If you have any further questions feel free to contact me
using the below information.
Sincerely,
Mandarino
Mobile: (706) 399-6993
Email: j.mandarino1 at comcast.net
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Behalf
Of Miranda brown
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:08 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: [nabs-l] Member
Hi,
I joined the NABS mailing list a couple of months ago. I was wanting to
join
the NABS division and I have tried to email Terri a couple of times over
the
last couple of months and and have not heard anything back. Does anyone
know how I can join the division?
Miranda
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:55:56 -0400
From: sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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Hi Jordan,
I think that notifying your professors one way or the other is
essential for you to be accommodated. I think your approach should be
twofold: have the DSS office write a letter if that is there procedure
but also write or phone your professors yourself to tell them
specifically what you need. That way they can put a name to a face,
you can put a name to a voice, and that knowledge will make it much
easier for you to get any help you may need later. If you take the
initiative now both parties will feel more comfortable with each other
if something comes up.
HTH,
Sarah
Quoting Jordan Richardson <lilrichie411 at gmail.com>:
> hi all,
> i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
> that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i
had
> heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have
the
> DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
> just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do
the
> latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
> thx,
>
> --
> Jordan Richardson
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com
> ?What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies?
> --Aristotle
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:40:25 -0700
From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Science advice
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
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Could you please post these responses on list?
Thanks
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Of Isaiah Wilcox
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:13 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Science advice
Good day ladies and gentlemen.
I, along with a colleague, need some feedback from individuals who have
taken any science courses. For example, I would like to know what
accommodations were made for you, what are some things to be aware of, or
what couldn't you do? If you could, e-mail me off of the list, that would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks
--
Isaiah Wilcox
830 Westview Dr. SW
Morehouse College Unit #140940
Atlanta Ga, 30314
Cell: (404) 291-7791
E-mail: iwilcox2011 at gmail.com
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:13:17 -0700
From: "Angela fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
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The DSS office is there to help us, not to dictate to us that we follow
rules which other students are not subject too. I personally let the DSS
office put me in contact with the professors and handle getting the book
lists and such, but once I actually meet the professor I deal with them
one-on-one as much as possible. If there's a handout I need, I'll ask them
to email it. Often the DSS office never sees it. If your DSS office is
dictating the way you relate to a professor, they are way out of line.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:52 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
I have to follow the rules of the disability office . I am by nature a rule
follower pluss it makes things a little easier for me as it already lists
the accomadations I am elegable for for that school. But that's just my 2
sense worth.
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From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Serena
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:03 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
Hi Jordan
Do you really think you or the DSS Office has to write a letter to your
profs. in the first place? Blind people have a right to simply walk into
class, without any special explanation, just like sighted people. When I
was in college, the disability person wrote letters for me, without asking
me if I wanted her to. I guess, I didn't think to say no to it at that
time. My wheelchair using friend Anthony, however, requested that the
disability person not write accommodations letters for him cuz he believed
he didn't need any special introduction just cuz he uses a wheelchair.
Serena
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jordan Richardson" <lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
hi all,
i just talked to the person at the DSS office today and one of the things
that we talked was the accommedations letter to the professors. Now, i had
heard about this through Jeff Thompson and MnABS. Is it better to have the
DSS office write the letter and send it to me for revisions, or for me to
just write the letter and to send it to my professors myself. If i do the
latter, should i tell the DSS office that i will write the letter myself?
thx,
--
Jordan Richardson
lilrichie411 at gmail.com
"What is a friend? A friend is a single soul dwelling in two bodies"
--Aristotle
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: William ODonnell <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accommedations Letter to Professors
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In regard to writing individual letters to professors, in the past, I
wrote each professor a standard email introducing me and me also copied the DS
office on that email. This kept lines of communication open so
misunderstandings were kept to a minimum. Keep coppies of all emails so they can be
used as evidence in proving discrimination issues at your college.
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