[nabs-l] Pedestrian safety improvement act

[Bill]

Don't you think those graphite canes are heavy enough already?  Not sure
about some of the rest of you, but i am rather hard on canes and any
electronic device is not likely to last a weekend.
Bill

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:43 PM, jonte <jonte711 at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about putting a mechanism in the cane that detects the hybrid car? I
> think that would be much more effective than trying to persuade the car
> companies to accommodate us.
> Jonte
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Spangler <spangler.robert at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:06 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Pedestrian safety improvement act
>
> I totally agree with you but I think you misunderstand the legislation.
>  It is not necessarily saying that we have to cause setbacks in hybrid
> cars or even how we should be able to hear them.  It simply states that
> the department of transportation would have to research it.  It can be
> done without being a hinderance--there could be a mechanism on the car
> that would make a sound whose speed changes with the speed of the car.
> And let's remember that we don't want noise; we just want something that
> is audible.  I think that most blind people would agree with sighted
> people that they don't want loud trucks driving past their houses.
>
> Thanks,
> Robby
>
> Jim Reed wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am not quite sure how to feel on this issue. On one hand, quiet cars
> might pose a saftey risk to blind persons and others, but on the other hand,
> there is such a thing as noise pollution, air pollution, dependence on
> forign oil, and enviromental damage.
> >
> > Aditionally, there is another element of this issue related to the
> support or hinderance of societal progress. Hybrids represent the next great
> leap in our society, if additional laws are passed regulating this
> development, it may prove to hinder the development of the hybrid car.
> Remember, the impact of hybrid cars isnt just a blindness issue, there are
> much more importiant nation issues at stake. For example, national security
> risk via a dependence of forign oil.
> >
> > There are also economic concerns. The continued research and development
> of hybrids, alternative fuels, and  "green" energy, will potentially be the
> savior of our economy. If hybrids become the next big thing, they could
> jumpstart the nearly dead auto industry, thus helping our economy and
> individual families. If you go to the national convention in Detroit, you
> will all see first hand the conciquences of this current economic collapes.
> Now is the time to be supporting industy and inovation, not hindering it.
> >
> > Lastly, if blind independence is truely the goal of the NFB and blind
> persons, then the burden is on us -- blind people-- to adapt to the changing
> world, the burden is not on the world to adapt to us. Perhaps in the era of
> silent cars, it may be time to tweak cane-travel methodologies?
> >
> > I can't support this. I will not be a party to the hinderance of societal
> progress, continued enviromental degradfation,  or further economic decline.
> I will not expect industy or tax payers to foot the bill because I (we)
> refuse to adapt.
> >
> > Well thats my two cents
> > Jim
> >
> > "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
> >
> >
> >
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> Robert Spangler
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> Student Senate - Recording Secretary
> Ohio Association of Blind Students - President
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