[nabs-l] Pedestrian safety improvement act

[jonte]

Dezman, 
Good point about the safety of children; though I think bicyclists really should be able to see where they are going and avoid any accidents. 
I'm not a technical genius, but wouldn't it be possible to invent a mechanism in the cane that beeps or vibrates in close proximity to a hybrid car? As for the device going dead or failing, I admit that I don't know what would happen in that situation. So, I pose the same question to you. What if the device that you want the car companies to install in the hybrid cars were to malfunction? 
Technology is not infallible.
Jonte     

-----Original Message-----
From: Dezman Jackson <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Pedestrian safety improvement act

Jonte,

Remember what we're fighting for will benefit all pedestrians, the blind, 
bicyclists, children, etc.  I don't know how feasible it would be to 
manufacture and sell such a cane to the blind.  How much would it drive up 
the price?  What about when the device goes dead or otherwise fails?

Dezman
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> How about putting a mechanism in the cane that detects the hybrid car? I 
> think that would be much more effective than trying to persuade the car 
> companies to accommodate us.
> Jonte
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Spangler <spangler.robert at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:06 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Pedestrian safety improvement act
>
> I totally agree with you but I think you misunderstand the legislation.
>  It is not necessarily saying that we have to cause setbacks in hybrid
> cars or even how we should be able to hear them.  It simply states that
> the department of transportation would have to research it.  It can be
> done without being a hinderance--there could be a mechanism on the car
> that would make a sound whose speed changes with the speed of the car.
> And let's remember that we don't want noise; we just want something that
> is audible.  I think that most blind people would agree with sighted
> people that they don't want loud trucks driving past their houses.
>
> Thanks,
> Robby
>
> Jim Reed wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am not quite sure how to feel on this issue. On one hand, quiet cars 
>> might pose a saftey risk to blind persons and others, but on the other 
>> hand, there is such a thing as noise pollution, air pollution, dependence 
>> on forign oil, and enviromental damage.
>>
>> Aditionally, there is another element of this issue related to the 
>> support or hinderance of societal progress. Hybrids represent the next 
>> great leap in our society, if additional laws are passed regulating this 
>> development, it may prove to hinder the development of the hybrid car. 
>> Remember, the impact of hybrid cars isnt just a blindness issue, there 
>> are much more importiant nation issues at stake. For example, national 
>> security risk via a dependence of forign oil.
>>
>> There are also economic concerns. The continued research and development 
>> of hybrids, alternative fuels, and  "green" energy, will potentially be 
>> the savior of our economy. If hybrids become the next big thing, they 
>> could jumpstart the nearly dead auto industry, thus helping our economy 
>> and individual families. If you go to the national convention in Detroit, 
>> you will all see first hand the conciquences of this current economic 
>> collapes. Now is the time to be supporting industy and inovation, not 
>> hindering it.
>>
>> Lastly, if blind independence is truely the goal of the NFB and blind 
>> persons, then the burden is on us -- blind people-- to adapt to the 
>> changing world, the burden is not on the world to adapt to us. Perhaps in 
>> the era of silent cars, it may be time to tweak cane-travel 
>> methodologies?
>>
>> I can't support this. I will not be a party to the hinderance of societal 
>> progress, continued enviromental degradfation,  or further economic 
>> decline. I will not expect industy or tax payers to foot the bill because 
>> I (we) refuse to adapt.
>>
>> Well thats my two cents
>> Jim
>>
>> "Ignorance killed the cat; curiosity was framed."
>>
>>
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> Robert Spangler
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> Student Senate - Recording Secretary
> Ohio Association of Blind Students - President
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