From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 02:51:49 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Cumbiambera2005)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:51:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] using blogger with JAWS in IE
In-Reply-To: <COL0-DAV2FD66C880219DA834552FB5100@phx.gbl>
References: <3af83dbb0907311116o1b2e014fy5ba8c7f1fc38b2ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL0-DAV2FD66C880219DA834552FB5100@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4804d1140907311951q6817d8ccja31cef57e4df8cbe@mail.gmail.com>

alena,
When i first started blogging, i remember this was confusing for me as
well. What you need to look for is the edit box that says "preview",
that is where your post body will go. This is located just below the
preview frame, and right above your labels. I hope I'm making myself
clear as this is something I do on a daily basis. I'm a proud
administrator of 4 blogs so I should know! Smiles, hope this helps.
Also feel free to contact me if you have anymore questions. I am
constantly experimenting, and blogger itself is very accessible.
Also you should not have to use firefox, I use it mostly with I E,
although some templates work better with firefox.
HTH,
Ashley


On 7/31/09, Jacob Struiksma <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I would reinstall Firefox
> From
> Jacob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of alena roberts
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:16 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] using blogger with JAWS in IE
>
> Heyall,
>
> I am trying to post to a blogger blog using IE and JAWS. I use a mac at
> home, but I have to use a PC at work. Blogger works just fine on my mac, but
> I am having trouble at work. When I try to post a new blog the only edit
> fields I can access are the title and tags. The edit field for the body of
> the post simply says frame and then end of frame. I convinced my co-worker
> to switch from using word press to blogger because it is easier for me, at
> least on my mac. Can someone help please? I hope I haven't confused anyone
> too much. I look forward to any responses.
>
> By the way Firefox is not working currently on my computer so that is why
> I'm using IE.
>
> --
> Alena Roberts
> Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/
>
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From eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 03:21:36 2009
From: eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com (Eliza Cooper)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:21:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
Message-ID: <55374550-008A-49A7-B82A-296E357E85E8@gmail.com>

Hi list,
	My name is Eliza, and I've subscribed because I'm looking for  
information on learning languages that use non-standard alphabets.   
I'm planning to learn either arabic or chinese, but I'd love to get  
any advice on how to handle written homework assignments and textbooks  
that use different characters.  Has anyone taken such a language?  Any  
help would be great.
	Thanks,
	Eliza


From nimerjaber1 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 04:10:20 2009
From: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com (Nimer Jaber)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:10:20 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <55374550-008A-49A7-B82A-296E357E85E8@gmail.com>
References: <55374550-008A-49A7-B82A-296E357E85E8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1f1386290907312110w5ef0d7bbu6132af8064a42190@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am an Arabic speaker, and I can tell you that writing is done using
braille, similar to what you're used to in English. The writing is
still from left to right in braille.

thanks
Nimer J

On 7/31/09, Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi list,
> 	My name is Eliza, and I've subscribed because I'm looking for
> information on learning languages that use non-standard alphabets.
> I'm planning to learn either arabic or chinese, but I'd love to get
> any advice on how to handle written homework assignments and textbooks
> that use different characters.  Has anyone taken such a language?  Any
> help would be great.
> 	Thanks,
> 	Eliza
>
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From ben.j.bloomgren at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 05:43:08 2009
From: ben.j.bloomgren at gmail.com (Ben J. Bloomgren)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:43:08 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <1f1386290907312110w5ef0d7bbu6132af8064a42190@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>

Hello Eliza,

I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than latin. Please
be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to those of us
whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic alphabet is
standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak solo
direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese), Korean,
Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of the Latin
alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special treatment.

Ben



From JFreeh at nfb.org  Sat Aug  1 20:10:42 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:10:42 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Files Complaint with
 Maryland Department of Education
Message-ID: <auto-000112638753@mailfront2.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


CONTACT:

Melissa Riccobono, President

National Federation of the Blind of Maryland

(410) 235-3073

<mailto:president at nfbmd.org>president at nfbmd.org

Sharon Krevor-Weisbaum, Attorney

(410) 962-1030

<mailto:skw at browngold.com>skw at browngold.com





National Federation of the Blind
Files Complaint with Maryland Department of Education





Advocates Say Baltimore Schools Not Educating Blind Children



Baltimore, Maryland (July 29, 2009):  The 
National Federation of the Blind and its Maryland 
affiliate have filed a complaint with the 
Maryland State Department of Education (MSDE) 
alleging violations of the Individuals with 
Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) and parallel 
state law by the Baltimore City Public Schools 
(BCPS).  The complaint addresses systemic 
problems that prevent blind students in the BCPS 
from receiving a free, appropriate public 
education as required by law.  Among other things, the BCPS has failed to:



·        Properly assess students who are blind 
or have low vision to determine their educational needs;

·        Properly train blind students in the 
skills of blindness, especially Braille and travel with a white cane; and

·        Provide access to appropriate assistive 
technology, such as Braille printers, Braille 
note-taking devices, print magnification devices, 
and text-to-speech screen access technology for computers.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, said: “Blind students 
can compete on terms of equality with their 
sighted peers and go on to lead productive and 
successful lives, but only if they are provided 
with an equal education.  The National Federation 
of the Blind will do everything in our power to 
ensure that every blind child receives the 
educational services he or she needs to succeed, 
and that is why we have taken this action.”



Melissa Riccobono, President of the National 
Federation of the Blind of Maryland, 
said:  “Baltimore schools have produced blind 
students who are functionally illiterate, cannot 
travel independently outside of their homes, and 
do not possess other critical skills that they 
need to compete on an equal basis with their 
sighted peers.  The National Federation of the 
Blind of Maryland has a responsibility to 
advocate for the needs of blind students, and we 
cannot and will not tolerate the failure of the 
BCPS to abide by state and federal law and 
provide these students with the education they 
need in order to live independent and productive 
lives.  We hope that the BCPS will accept our 
proposals to expand and improve their programs 
for blind students and work with us to ensure 
that blind children in Baltimore receive the 
equal education to which they are entitled.”



A press conference about this action will be held 
today at 1:45 p.m. in the Members Hall of the 
National Federation of the Blind Jernigan 
Institute, 1800 Johnson Street, Baltimore, MD 21230.



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From eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 07:23:59 2009
From: eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com (Eliza Cooper)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:23:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
References: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>

Hi Ben and all,
	Very good point, and please understand that I meant absolutely no  
offense by my choice of the term "non-standard."  I simply used it as  
a way to differentiate between the American english alphabet (i.e.,  
the Latin one, as you pointed out) and those of other languages.  Poor  
wording, admittedly.
	Thanks,
	Eliza


On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:

> Hello Eliza,
>
> I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than  
> latin. Please
> be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to those  
> of us
> whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic  
> alphabet is
> standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak  
> solo
> direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese), Korean,
> Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of  
> the Latin
> alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special  
> treatment.
>
> Ben
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info  
> for nabs-l:
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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Sat Aug  1 20:53:30 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:53:30 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends with
 March and Ceremony in Washington
Message-ID: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT:
Chris Danielsen
Director of Public Relations
National Federation of the Blind
(410) 659-9314, extension 2330
(410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
cdanielsen at nfb.org

National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington

NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space

Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred 
blind high school students and their mentors from 
across the nation will close out the second 
National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in 
the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students 
will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m. 
with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by 
a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol 
Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of 
the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The 
closing festivities will include a presentation 
by the students about their week of scientific 
study, as well as a special presentation by 
senior officials of the National Aeronautics and 
Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB 
with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver 
Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis 
on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in 
May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be 
among the dignitaries in attendance.

Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, said: "The National 
Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our 
second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony 
in our nation’s capitol and will feature a 
presentation by leaders in the field of space 
exploration. This is doubtless an experience that 
the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved 
with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This 
closing event will symbolize the belief of the 
National Federation of the Blind, and all of our 
partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people, 
like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a 
willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds, 
and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."

"I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here 
today and the work you do every day, in every 
way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve 
traveled from all over the country for a week of 
intense STEM training. You have so much to offer 
and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in 
STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you 
have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski, 
Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations 
Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put 
$600,000 in the federal checkbook to support 
NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and 
training techniques for the blind and visually 
impaired. I will continue to fight for federal 
investments in key programs like this one.





# # #



About the National Federation of the Blind

With more than 50,000 members, the National 
Federation of the Blind is the largest and most 
influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States. The NFB improves 
blind people’s lives through advocacy, education, 
research, technology, and programs encouraging 
independence and self-confidence. It is the 
leading force in the blindness field today and 
the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004 
the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and 
training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.




From corbbo at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 21:04:15 2009
From: corbbo at gmail.com (Corbb O'Connor)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:04:15 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NEW PRICE: Never-used K-NFB Reader Mobile for Sale
Message-ID: <auto-000110136288@mailfront1.g2host.com>


** NEW PRICE: Was $1350, now $1200 **

Now before you go wondering why a scholarship winner is selling his
K-NFB Reader, know that I am using the funds to purchase a Trekker
GPS, which is of a more immediate need to me. I'm not looking to
profit from a gracious NFB scholarship!

I'm looking to sell a brand new K-NFB Reader Mobile. It does not
include Talks or MobileSpeak, the screen reader for cell phones, but
it does include the new Nokia N82 phone and K-NFB Reader
software...all in their original packaging. (Those programs typically
retail for about $300.)

My initial asking price is *** $1200 plus shipping *** (retails for
$1370 plus shipping). However, I am open to negotiate that price. This
product will be sold as-is, with no additional warranty or guarantee.
Payments MUST be processed through PayPal.

If you're interested, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL. E-mail me OFF-LIST!

Thanks,
Corbb O'Connor
corbbo at gmail dot com



From chriswright11 at verizon.net  Sat Aug  1 23:39:19 2009
From: chriswright11 at verizon.net (Christopher Wright)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:39:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] braille literacy
Message-ID: <001501ca1301$4bc3d220$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chrissie Cochrane" <chrissie at theglobalvoice.info>
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: [TheLounge] this week's Attitude Test


> Hi Folks
>
> This week's Attitude Test asks a simple question:  is Braille literacy
still as important as ever it was for blind people?  In these days of
talking computers, talking mobile phones, and other audio-enhanced
technology, is it still necessary for blind children, or the newly blind to
take the trouble and learn Braille?  Can one, for example get just as much
pleasure from listening to an audio book, as reading a Braille one.  Let me
introduce a personal note here.  I am what is considered to be a pretty
fluent Braille reader, yet I must admit I prefer a talking book, especially
if it's unabridged, any day.
>
> If you'd like to join in the discussion you can call us at The Global
Voice, during the show.
>
> Naama and I will be kicking things off at 19:00 UTC, that's 3 pm Eastern,
12 pm Pacific and would very much welcome your input.
>
> There are several ways to get in touch with the program whilst we're on
air:
>
> by Skype at the.global.voice;
> by email and msn at yourvoice at theglobalvoice.info
> or by using any of our three phone numbers:
> in the US and Canada the number is 305 434 4132;
> in the UK and Europe the number is +44 208 123 6806;
> and in New Zealand and Australia, the number is +64 9 974 9636.
>
> Please join Naama and myself for what I hope will be a stimulating
discussion, at 19:00 UTC in The Attitude Test on The Global Voice.
>
> If you miss the live broadcast, the program is repeated on Monday at 11:00
UTC, and should you wish to email the program when we're not on air, you can
do so at attitude.test at theglobalvoice.info.
>
> Chrissie
> General Manager; the Global Voice
> www.theglobalvoice.info.
> I'm also now on Twitter: chrissietgv
> General Manager; the Global Voice
> www.theglobalvoice.info.
> I'm also now on Twitter: chrissietgv
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From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 07:30:21 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:30:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
Message-ID: <042C67107C394F0CB57C65D8D1D78A90@thedjdinvasion>

Was wondering if anyone knows what model/models of phone/phones will support either MobileSpeak or Talks that will work with Verizon Wireless?
Thanks from David

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From fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 07:44:16 2009
From: fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com (Franandah Damstra)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:44:16 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>
References: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
	<6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a7b0cbec0908020044r1b44f6a4wc8d14bfd8b21a026@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Well, I've been learning Japanese since I was twelve and they use
braille as well. Sadly, it is quiete a  long process. They first
translate the kanji (The picture writing taken from the Chinese) and
turn it into Kana (A  mix of Hiragana, which is used for non kanji
words and for young children, and Katagana, which is used for foreign
words with Japanese pronunciation.) After that it is translated into
Braille. The Braille however, is quite complicated and I have yet to
master it. I am much better at understanding, and then speaking the
language. In this case, I'm grateful for a  screen reader.


On 8/1/09, Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben and all,
> 	Very good point, and please understand that I meant absolutely no
> offense by my choice of the term "non-standard."  I simply used it as
> a way to differentiate between the American english alphabet (i.e.,
> the Latin one, as you pointed out) and those of other languages.  Poor
> wording, admittedly.
> 	Thanks,
> 	Eliza
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
>
>> Hello Eliza,
>>
>> I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than
>> latin. Please
>> be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to those
>> of us
>> whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic
>> alphabet is
>> standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak
>> solo
>> direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese), Korean,
>> Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of
>> the Latin
>> alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special
>> treatment.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> for nabs-l:
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/eliza.l.cooper%40gmail.com
>
>
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From info at michaelhingson.com  Sun Aug  2 22:54:26 2009
From: info at michaelhingson.com (Michael Hingson)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:54:26 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] KnfbReader Mobile pricing and seminar announcements
Message-ID: <auto-000110212755@mailfront1.g2host.com>


Just before the NFB national convention I announced that the price for the
KnfbReader when purchased from the NFB and The Michael Hingson Group was
decreasing.  Since there have been some questions about pricing after the
convention I want to clarify that this price decrease is permanent so long
as we continue to receive our present costs from our suppliers.  The pricing
is as follows:

The Basic KnfbReader Mobile including software and the Nokia N82 phone,
$1,370.00.

Talks screen reader optional add-on when purchased at the same time as the
Reader, $225.00.

Talks screen reader when purchased at another time, $295.00.

MobileSpeak screen reader purchased at any time, $295.00.

WayFinder Access GPS option for the KnfbReader system, $395.00.

NEW!  Extended battery for the Nokia N82, $35.00.

New!  Bluetooth headset with ear buds, model BH-201, $50.00.

New!  Nokia Bluetooth headset with ear covers, $75.00.

New!  Nokia Bluetooth keyboard model SU-8w, $125.00.

All prices are plus shipping and tax in California.  If you have questions
about the Reader or would like to order one please email me at
info at michaelhingson.com and I will get back to you or have one of our NFB
KnfbReader dealers contact you.  Also, don't forget that the National
Federation of the Blind has a %3 low interest loan program for those who
need help in purchasing the Reader.

I also want to ask if anyone would be interested in attending either an
upcoming online audio seminar or a conference call teleseminar to demo the
KnfbReader Mobile?  If so, please email me off list at
info at michaelhingson.com and tell me some times convenient for you to attend
either demo and which one you would be interested in attending.

Finally, over the summer many readers were sold at the various national
organizational conventions.  We are contemplating holding online or
conference call training sessions to help people get started using their
Readers.  Please email me at info at michaelhingson.com if you would like to
attend either kind of seminar.  Please include times convenient for you to
attend and which kind of seminar would be best for you.  All seminars are
free to everyone.  I will announce the status of the seminars as soon as I
get a sense from you about when and how to hold them.

Please send this on to others whom you think might be interested in knowing
more about the KnfbReader Mobile.  Happy reading to all.  Thanks for your
attention and time.


Best,


Michael Hingson

The Michael Hingson Group
      "Speaking with Vision"
                  Michael Hingson, President
                          (415) 827-4084
                    info at michaelhingson.com
                    www.michaelhingson.com


for info on the new KNFB Reader Mobile, visit:
http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com









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From pajohns1 at vt.edu  Sun Aug  2 17:43:17 2009
From: pajohns1 at vt.edu (pajohns1 at vt.edu)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:43:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
References: <042C67107C394F0CB57C65D8D1D78A90@thedjdinvasion>
Message-ID: <59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>

    David,

 Talks is available on the
*HTC Ozone 
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4848&changingCompletedOrder=
 Motorola Q9C (recently discontinued).
 I don't think Moble Speaks is supported by any of the
Verizon phones.
*The LG enV Touch 
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4787&changingCompletedOrder=
has it's own screen reader software.

Also check out,

* http://www.accessiblephones.com/
* http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=258
* http://aboutus.vzw.com/accessibility/talks.html

A YahooGroups List for Accessible Verizon Phones is at
* BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com


Good Luck,

Patrick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Dunphy" <djdrocks4ever at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:30 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question


> Was wondering if anyone knows what model/models of phone/phones will
> support either MobileSpeak or Talks that will work with Verizon Wireless?
> Thanks from David
>
> *****
> If you're tired of hearing the same old songs on your local radio station,
> and if you can't find the variety you've always wanted, then check out the
> station that I own and operate with a great group of broadcasters called
> Radio360. You'll hear all types of music and programming, plus you're able
> to control what you hear through requests, interaction with the djs, and
> more!
> To find out more about the station, visit us on the web at
> http://www.radio360.us
> Follow us on twitter at
> http://www.twitter.com/radio360usa
> or add us to your MySpace at
> http://www.myspace.com/radio360usa
> Come check us out, you won't be disappointed!!!
>
>
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From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 18:39:26 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:39:26 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Sister Beth Returns To The Djd Invasion Tonight On Radio360
Message-ID: <B19829C364F74136A62EB4F66557D496@thedjdinvasion>

Hello All!
My sister Beth will be co hosting along with her friends James tonight on The Djd Invasion on Radio360 tonight!
The fun begins at 7 PM eastern time, and will feature a variety of country and you never know what else may come your way!
During the show, we can be reached by email, msn messenger, or aol instant messenger at the address
live at radio360.us
and when we're on the mic, we can be reached by skype at
radio360usa
or by phone by dialing
516-717-4425
This should be tons of fun, so to listen, save this email, and at 7 PM eastern, go to
http://www.radio360.us/players/playerselection.html
to lock in to tonight's show, and to find out what happens when Beth, James, and I get together.
Best regards,
David Dunphy


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From freedmas at stolaf.edu  Sun Aug  2 18:55:01 2009
From: freedmas at stolaf.edu (Sydney Walker Freedman)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:55:01 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <a7b0cbec0908020044r1b44f6a4wc8d14bfd8b21a026@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
	<6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>
	<a7b0cbec0908020044r1b44f6a4wc8d14bfd8b21a026@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <922c02e40908021155j6dbc8a81ob325bf182a9188ae@mail.gmail.com>

...and I thought *Chinese* braille was crazy. I'd say that, in
general, languages with alphabets, e.g. Arabic, Russian, Greek,
English, are easier to handle in braille than those with pictographic
systems, e.g. Chinese. In a pinch, if you find that the braille may
keep you from learning quickly or simply be too much of a bother, you
could just use roman transliteration (for Mandarin Chinese, called
Pinyin, for example).

Pax,
Sydney

On 8/2/09, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> Well, I've been learning Japanese since I was twelve and they use
> braille as well. Sadly, it is quiete a  long process. They first
> translate the kanji (The picture writing taken from the Chinese) and
> turn it into Kana (A  mix of Hiragana, which is used for non kanji
> words and for young children, and Katagana, which is used for foreign
> words with Japanese pronunciation.) After that it is translated into
> Braille. The Braille however, is quite complicated and I have yet to
> master it. I am much better at understanding, and then speaking the
> language. In this case, I'm grateful for a  screen reader.
>
>
> On 8/1/09, Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ben and all,
>> 	Very good point, and please understand that I meant absolutely no
>> offense by my choice of the term "non-standard."  I simply used it as
>> a way to differentiate between the American english alphabet (i.e.,
>> the Latin one, as you pointed out) and those of other languages.  Poor
>> wording, admittedly.
>> 	Thanks,
>> 	Eliza
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eliza,
>>>
>>> I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than
>>> latin. Please
>>> be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to those
>>> of us
>>> whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic
>>> alphabet is
>>> standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak
>>> solo
>>> direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese), Korean,
>>> Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of
>>> the Latin
>>> alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special
>>> treatment.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
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From lawnmower84 at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  2 20:02:34 2009
From: lawnmower84 at hotmail.com (Jacob Struiksma)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:02:34 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] facebook
In-Reply-To: <C23EAD3AEDE24A849BD6A0B8D2484A39@melissa>
References: <A60F8A6BBEFD4EC0BAB72363C9B6A086@Jess><002101c9e399$81907800$2801a8c0@DHQ5QJF1>
	<C23EAD3AEDE24A849BD6A0B8D2484A39@melissa>
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV30365591CA46D0B16194EFB50E0@phx.gbl>

Hello,
I have face book account.
From
Jacob Struiksma
Seattle Washington
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Melissa Green
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] facebook

Hi all.
Arielle thanks for the information concerning the groups for blind students
and nfb members on facebook.
I will have to check them out.

Melissa Green
The most splendid achievement of all is the constant striving to surpass
yourself and to be worthy of your own approval.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] facebook


> Hi I have facebook. You can add me by my email address wich is 
> raniaismail04 at gmail.com I belong to the central jersey nj network.
> Rania,
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jessica" <jw927 at comcast.net>
> To: <Nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:00 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] facebook
>
>
>> Hi everyone!  I am just wondering how many of you are on facebook?  I 
>> know one person on this list is because she already added me.  I would 
>> really like to get as many of you as possible because it would be awesome

>> chatting with other blind people.  If anyone else has facebook, please 
>> let me know so we can hopefully become friends!  thank you
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From amylsabo at comcast.net  Sun Aug  2 20:46:34 2009
From: amylsabo at comcast.net (Amy Sabo)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
In-Reply-To: <59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>
Message-ID: <859848000.7720201249245994660.JavaMail.root@sz0144a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>


hello patrick and all,

thanks for this information too! i too also am looking to find a acessible phone too with at&t or verizon too! because my contract with at&t is up in september and, i'm lookingg to find a accessible phone through verizon or at&t myself too!

as for verizon i was with them when i moved out to colorado 6 years ago but, they took me to the cleaners for some reason and i have been with at&t for about 2 years noww! i have been looking for a accessible phone through at&t but, i haven't found anything i like as of yet!

so, this information will be very helpful to me! also, is there anyone who could recommend a aceessible phone through at&t with mobile speak or talks perhaps???

thanks again and i will talk to you all soon!


hugs,
from amy
----- Original Message -----

From: pajohns1 at vt.edu

To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 

Sent: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:43:17 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: Re: [nabs-l] verizon phone question



    David,



Talks is available on the

*HTC Ozone 

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4848&changingCompletedOrder=

Motorola Q9C (recently discontinued).

I don't think Moble Speaks is supported by any of the

Verizon phones.

*The LG enV Touch 

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4787&changingCompletedOrder=

has it's own screen reader software.



Also check out,



* http://www.accessiblephones.com/

* http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=258

* http://aboutus.vzw.com/accessibility/talks.html



A YahooGroups List for Accessible Verizon Phones is at

* BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com





Good Luck,



Patrick



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "David Dunphy" 

To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"



Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:30 AM

Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question





> Was wondering if anyone knows what model/models of phone/phones will

> support either MobileSpeak or Talks that will work with Verizon Wireless?

> Thanks from David

>

> *****

> If you're tired of hearing the same old songs on your local radio station,

> and if you can't find the variety you've always wanted, then check out the

> station that I own and operate with a great group of broadcasters called

> Radio360. You'll hear all types of music and programming, plus you're able

> to control what you hear through requests, interaction with the djs, and

> more!

> To find out more about the station, visit us on the web at

> http://www.radio360.us

> Follow us on twitter at

> http://www.twitter.com/radio360usa

> or add us to your MySpace at

> http://www.myspace.com/radio360usa

> Come check us out, you won't be disappointed!!!

>

>

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From freespirit328 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 23:49:24 2009
From: freespirit328 at gmail.com (Jennifer Aberdeen)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:49:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
References: <042C67107C394F0CB57C65D8D1D78A90@thedjdinvasion>
	<59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>
Message-ID: <A20E1993BF4E46BE92E71EAD95BB1C52@Gateway>

The LG phones from Verizon all have talking menus. They probably aren't as 
good as Talks or Mobile Speak, but I think it's very good, and it comes 
ready to use right out of the box; you don't have to pay extra for a screen 
reading software.


Jen

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pajohns1 at vt.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] verizon phone question


>    David,
>
> Talks is available on the
> *HTC Ozone 
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4848&changingCompletedOrder=
> Motorola Q9C (recently discontinued).
> I don't think Moble Speaks is supported by any of the
> Verizon phones.
> *The LG enV Touch 
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4787&changingCompletedOrder=
> has it's own screen reader software.
>
> Also check out,
>
> * http://www.accessiblephones.com/
> * http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=258
> * http://aboutus.vzw.com/accessibility/talks.html
>
> A YahooGroups List for Accessible Verizon Phones is at
> * BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Dunphy" <djdrocks4ever at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:30 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
>
>
>> Was wondering if anyone knows what model/models of phone/phones will
>> support either MobileSpeak or Talks that will work with Verizon Wireless?
>> Thanks from David
>>
>> *****
>> If you're tired of hearing the same old songs on your local radio 
>> station,
>> and if you can't find the variety you've always wanted, then check out 
>> the
>> station that I own and operate with a great group of broadcasters called
>> Radio360. You'll hear all types of music and programming, plus you're 
>> able
>> to control what you hear through requests, interaction with the djs, and
>> more!
>> To find out more about the station, visit us on the web at
>> http://www.radio360.us
>> Follow us on twitter at
>> http://www.twitter.com/radio360usa
>> or add us to your MySpace at
>> http://www.myspace.com/radio360usa
>> Come check us out, you won't be disappointed!!!
>>
>>
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From jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 01:00:26 2009
From: jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com (Jessica Kostiw)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:00:26 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Color Identifyers?
References: <A60F8A6BBEFD4EC0BAB72363C9B6A086@Jess><002101c9e399$81907800$2801a8c0@DHQ5QJF1><C23EAD3AEDE24A849BD6A0B8D2484A39@melissa>
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Message-ID: <011901ca13d5$cb64e7b0$874ea962@Jessica>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Struiksma" <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] facebook


> Hello,
> I have face book account.
> From
> Jacob Struiksma
> Seattle Washington
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Melissa Green
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] facebook
>
> Hi all.
> Arielle thanks for the information concerning the groups for blind 
> students
> and nfb members on facebook.
> I will have to check them out.
>
> Melissa Green
> The most splendid achievement of all is the constant striving to surpass
> yourself and to be worthy of your own approval.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] facebook
>
>
>> Hi I have facebook. You can add me by my email address wich is
>> raniaismail04 at gmail.com I belong to the central jersey nj network.
>> Rania,
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jessica" <jw927 at comcast.net>
>> To: <Nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:00 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] facebook
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone!  I am just wondering how many of you are on facebook?  I
>>> know one person on this list is because she already added me.  I would
>>> really like to get as many of you as possible because it would be 
>>> awesome
>
>>> chatting with other blind people.  If anyone else has facebook, please
>>> let me know so we can hopefully become friends!  thank you
>>> _______________________________________________
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From alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 01:30:45 2009
From: alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com (alena roberts)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:30:45 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] using blogger with JAWS in IE
In-Reply-To: <4804d1140907311951q6817d8ccja31cef57e4df8cbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3af83dbb0907311116o1b2e014fy5ba8c7f1fc38b2ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL0-DAV2FD66C880219DA834552FB5100@phx.gbl>
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Ashley,,

Thanks for the info. I will let you know if that works out. What blogs
to you moderate? I would like to check them out.

-- 
Alena Roberts
Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/


From kolbygarrison at triad.rr.com  Mon Aug  3 03:06:57 2009
From: kolbygarrison at triad.rr.com (Kolby Garrison)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:06:57 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
In-Reply-To: <59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>
References: <042C67107C394F0CB57C65D8D1D78A90@thedjdinvasion>
	<59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>
Message-ID: <E8114E22F96C4C4CA8B767C177E9DA3E@YOURXBFO0REXEG>

Mobile Speak is supported by many Verizon phones. See Code Factory's website
at:
http://www.codefactory.es
for more information. Click on the supported devices link and you will be
able to view a list of supported phones by manufacturer or carrier.
Kolby



From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 04:53:35 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:53:35 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] update on vehicle accessible for the blind
Message-ID: <E558FA862BDB41D0A11445316959B050@teal6e6857f643>

    Several blind people were able to get behind the wheel of a new
high-tech vehicle designed by Virginia Tech engineering students.

Twenty blind people took turns maneuvering the retrofitted dune buggy
Friday in a parking lot at the University of Maryland. The test drive
capped a National Federation for the Blind summer camp for 200 blind
youth from across the country.


Virginia Tech was the only university to take on a 2004 challenge from
the federation to build a vehicle that could let blind people drive.

The buggy they designed uses a laser sensor to figure out the road
ahead. A special vibrating vest worn by drivers communicates speed and
warns when to stop. And a headset relays voice commands signaling
which way to turn.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

1

From eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 12:44:51 2009
From: eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com (Eliza Cooper)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:44:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <922c02e40908021155j6dbc8a81ob325bf182a9188ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
	<6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>
	<a7b0cbec0908020044r1b44f6a4wc8d14bfd8b21a026@mail.gmail.com>
	<922c02e40908021155j6dbc8a81ob325bf182a9188ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68E35C33-C10F-4801-905B-5B74B0EEDEFB@gmail.com>

Hi all,
	Thanks to everyone for their help and advice.  Being a visual  
learner, having the option to use braille in my learning process might  
make it easier for me, but it's good to know that Jaws can handle these.
	Happy Monday,
	Eliza

On Aug 2, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Sydney Walker Freedman wrote:

> ...and I thought *Chinese* braille was crazy. I'd say that, in
> general, languages with alphabets, e.g. Arabic, Russian, Greek,
> English, are easier to handle in braille than those with pictographic
> systems, e.g. Chinese. In a pinch, if you find that the braille may
> keep you from learning quickly or simply be too much of a bother, you
> could just use roman transliteration (for Mandarin Chinese, called
> Pinyin, for example).
>
> Pax,
> Sydney
>
> On 8/2/09, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Well, I've been learning Japanese since I was twelve and they use
>> braille as well. Sadly, it is quiete a  long process. They first
>> translate the kanji (The picture writing taken from the Chinese) and
>> turn it into Kana (A  mix of Hiragana, which is used for non kanji
>> words and for young children, and Katagana, which is used for foreign
>> words with Japanese pronunciation.) After that it is translated into
>> Braille. The Braille however, is quite complicated and I have yet to
>> master it. I am much better at understanding, and then speaking the
>> language. In this case, I'm grateful for a  screen reader.
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/09, Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Ben and all,
>>> 	Very good point, and please understand that I meant absolutely no
>>> offense by my choice of the term "non-standard."  I simply used it  
>>> as
>>> a way to differentiate between the American english alphabet (i.e.,
>>> the Latin one, as you pointed out) and those of other languages.   
>>> Poor
>>> wording, admittedly.
>>> 	Thanks,
>>> 	Eliza
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Eliza,
>>>>
>>>> I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than
>>>> latin. Please
>>>> be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to  
>>>> those
>>>> of us
>>>> whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic
>>>> alphabet is
>>>> standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak
>>>> solo
>>>> direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese),  
>>>> Korean,
>>>> Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of
>>>> the Latin
>>>> alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special
>>>> treatment.
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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From troubleclark at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 12:47:09 2009
From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends with
	March and Ceremony in Washington
In-Reply-To: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com>

My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.

On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> CONTACT:
> Chris Danielsen
> Director of Public Relations
> National Federation of the Blind
> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>
> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>
> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>
> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
> blind high school students and their mentors from
> across the nation will close out the second
> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
> closing festivities will include a presentation
> by the students about their week of scientific
> study, as well as a special presentation by
> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>
> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
> presentation by leaders in the field of space
> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>
> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
> today and the work you do every day, in every
> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
> traveled from all over the country for a week of
> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
> training techniques for the blind and visually
> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
> investments in key programs like this one.
>
>
>
>
>
> # # #
>
>
>
> About the National Federation of the Blind
>
> With more than 50,000 members, the National
> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
> influential membership organization of blind
> people in the United States. The NFB improves
> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
> research, technology, and programs encouraging
> independence and self-confidence. It is the
> leading force in the blindness field today and
> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>
>
>
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From sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca  Mon Aug  3 14:03:51 2009
From: sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca (sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:03:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] learning arabic or chinese
In-Reply-To: <68E35C33-C10F-4801-905B-5B74B0EEDEFB@gmail.com>
References: <4a73d5f2.29578c0a.6032.ffffa683@mx.google.com>
	<6777A984-66DE-4D84-BC1E-FB32E2A1D4CA@gmail.com>
	<a7b0cbec0908020044r1b44f6a4wc8d14bfd8b21a026@mail.gmail.com>
	<922c02e40908021155j6dbc8a81ob325bf182a9188ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<68E35C33-C10F-4801-905B-5B74B0EEDEFB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090803100351.fieunf7sow0s804w@webmail.utoronto.ca>

Hi Eliza and all,

I've given this a lot of thought, so I hope you can bear with me as I  
share my thought process with you.

Learning languages for anyone consists of reading, writing and  
speaking. for blind people, speaking can be learned (I tghink) the  
same way as sighted folks would. However, things get a bit dicey with  
reading and writing. Here's my thoughts on that.

First, a Braille code must be learned for the language. If it's a  
romance language (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) this will be simple,  
only requireing an accent table in addition to the standard Braille  
letters. For non-romance languages the trouble is that there are few  
people to teach new Braille codes to students, and few online  
resources. This makes learning in a sighted classroom setting  
challenging. The following two links might help. The first talks about  
Chinese Braille and the second speaks more generally about teaching  
Braille-reading students new languages. It's a page on transcribing  
Braille into foreign languages, but there are other links on the page  
worth checking out.

Chinese Braille:
http://www.braille.ch/pschin-e.htm

Transcribing Braille into foreign languages:
http://www.miusa.org/ncde/tipsheets/foreignlanguageandblind/infoguide/transcribingbraille

I, like Eliza, would love to be able to learn a Braille system as well  
as use screenreaders to access foreign languages. The next challenge  
is to access material professors might give you in the language you  
are trying to learn. You might know the Braille code for your Arabic  
book, but if a transcriber doesn't, how will you get the book in  
Braille? For online materials, will JAWS really read them in the  
correct languages, or do you have to get some other software for them  
to be recognized? Or is it necessary for everything to be written  
phonetically? These questions must all be answered before proceeding.

The last issue is translating Braille languages into print. For  
romance languages this is relatively simple, but not so much for  
Arabic or Chinese and other pictographic writing. I wish that a  
Nemetex-like piece of software, which fairly seamlessly translates  
Nemeth code into print math, existed for languages too, but I have yet  
to find anything like that.

So those are my long-winded thoughts on learning languages; I hope you  
find those links helpful.

Sarah


Quoting Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
> 	Thanks to everyone for their help and advice.  Being a visual learner,
> having the option to use braille in my learning process might make it
> easier for me, but it's good to know that Jaws can handle these.
> 	Happy Monday,
> 	Eliza
>
> On Aug 2, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Sydney Walker Freedman wrote:
>
>> ...and I thought *Chinese* braille was crazy. I'd say that, in
>> general, languages with alphabets, e.g. Arabic, Russian, Greek,
>> English, are easier to handle in braille than those with pictographic
>> systems, e.g. Chinese. In a pinch, if you find that the braille may
>> keep you from learning quickly or simply be too much of a bother, you
>> could just use roman transliteration (for Mandarin Chinese, called
>> Pinyin, for example).
>>
>> Pax,
>> Sydney
>>
>> On 8/2/09, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Well, I've been learning Japanese since I was twelve and they use
>>> braille as well. Sadly, it is quiete a  long process. They first
>>> translate the kanji (The picture writing taken from the Chinese) and
>>> turn it into Kana (A  mix of Hiragana, which is used for non kanji
>>> words and for young children, and Katagana, which is used for foreign
>>> words with Japanese pronunciation.) After that it is translated into
>>> Braille. The Braille however, is quite complicated and I have yet to
>>> master it. I am much better at understanding, and then speaking the
>>> language. In this case, I'm grateful for a  screen reader.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/1/09, Eliza Cooper <eliza.l.cooper at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Ben and all,
>>>> 	Very good point, and please understand that I meant absolutely no
>>>> offense by my choice of the term "non-standard."  I simply used it as
>>>> a way to differentiate between the American english alphabet (i.e.,
>>>> the Latin one, as you pointed out) and those of other languages.  Poor
>>>> wording, admittedly.
>>>> 	Thanks,
>>>> 	Eliza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Eliza,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a speaker of any language with an alphabet other than
>>>>> latin. Please
>>>>> be careful with the word nonstandard. It's only nonstandard to those
>>>>> of us
>>>>> whose languages use the Latin alphabet. To Nimer, the Arabic
>>>>> alphabet is
>>>>> standard and ours is nonstandard. Anyway, Jaws does have Realspeak
>>>>> solo
>>>>> direct voices for Russian, Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese), Korean,
>>>>> Japanese and Greek as well as Czech and Polish, whose versions of
>>>>> the Latin
>>>>> alphabet has some other diacritical marks that must have special
>>>>> treatment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>>>
>>>>
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From troubleclark at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 14:44:10 2009
From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:44:10 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Youth Slam Now on Twitter
In-Reply-To: <auto-000109213902@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <auto-000109213902@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <fc8eb2b0908030744n68f95490s3c0afaf5115b440e@mail.gmail.com>

Youth Slam 2009 was awesome. I was in the CSI track.

On 7/26/09, by way of David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> <AZNOR99 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> 200 blind high school students have just
> converged on the campus of the University of
> Maryland to spend a wild week learning about
> science, technology, engineering, and math.  With
> more than 70 adult blind mentors, they will build
> greenhouses, dissect sharks, learn CSI techniques, and even drive cars.
>
>
>
> You can follow along through the week and learn
> breaking news from the NFB Youth Slam by going to
>
> <http://www.twitter.com/NFBYouthSlam>www.twitter.com/NFBYouthSlam
>
> or follow “NFBYouthSlam† if you already have a Twitter account,.
>
>
>
> Two hundred blind and low vision students from
> all across the country will attend this five-day
> adventure that will engage, inspire, and
> encourage the next generation of blind youth to
> consider careers falsely believed to be
> impossible for the blind.  Have you ever wanted
> to build and launch a rocket?  Are you interested
> in learning about forensics?  Or do you have an
> interest in journalism?  The possibilities are plentiful at the NFB Youth
> Slam!
>
> While staying at the University of Maryland,
> College Park, students will be mentored by blind
> role models during fun and challenging activities
> designed to build confidence and increase science literacy.  Participants
> Students and mentors dance during the closing party of the 2007
> will also have the opportunity to attend
> workshops on topics such as leadership, career
> preparation, and blindness.  In addition,
> students will have time for fun and mingling
> during social activities, such as extreme sports,
> recreation night, and a talent show.
>
>
>


From bcsarah.fan at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 17:17:23 2009
From: bcsarah.fan at gmail.com (Patricia)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:17:23 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] help with an assistive technology presentation
Message-ID: <9FFDBAEC963C491EA5C515309BEF5553@Athena>

Hi everyone: 

I was asked about a month ago by my Disability Services Advisor if i would be willing to do a presentation on assistive technology for the blind   across the lifespan for an assistive technology class that she would be teaching to special Ed students. I jumped at the opportunity. I get an hour and a half to present, and decided that before I delve into the technology of today that I give a background on the technologies of the past i.e. the very first commercial notetaker, the first notetaker with a braille display, etc. As i never used many of these technologies myself (the only notetaker I have ever used is the Pac Mate) I have been doing research into the others to get a bit of a background and some info for the presentation. However I can't seem to find any information on the Braille Lite. This surprised me because this is a piece of technology that many of my friends had used in school. I was wondering if any of you could give me a brief history of the Braille LIte (the first version, before it was taken over by Freedom Scientific). Does anyone know when the Braille Lite came out? 

Any help on this would be great. 

Hope you all are having a wonderful summer.      

Patricia 


From aguimaraes at nbp.org  Mon Aug  3 17:32:30 2009
From: aguimaraes at nbp.org (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:32:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
	<fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local>

Hey Nathan,

How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?

What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?

Just wondering,

Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends 
withMarch and Ceremony in Washington


My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.

On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> CONTACT:
> Chris Danielsen
> Director of Public Relations
> National Federation of the Blind
> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>
> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>
> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>
> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
> blind high school students and their mentors from
> across the nation will close out the second
> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
> closing festivities will include a presentation
> by the students about their week of scientific
> study, as well as a special presentation by
> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>
> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
> presentation by leaders in the field of space
> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>
> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
> today and the work you do every day, in every
> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
> traveled from all over the country for a week of
> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
> training techniques for the blind and visually
> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
> investments in key programs like this one.
>
>
>
>
>
> # # #
>
>
>
> About the National Federation of the Blind
>
> With more than 50,000 members, the National
> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
> influential membership organization of blind
> people in the United States. The NFB improves
> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
> research, technology, and programs encouraging
> independence and self-confidence. It is the
> leading force in the blindness field today and
> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From aguimaraes at nbp.org  Mon Aug  3 18:34:01 2009
From: aguimaraes at nbp.org (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with an assistive technology presentation
References: <9FFDBAEC963C491EA5C515309BEF5553@Athena>
Message-ID: <99B52F1B95794DBE89885E6E0EB7BF40@nbp2.local>

The first Braille Lite to come out was a braille lite 18.

this unit worked just like a braille n speak, but with a braille display and 
added display features. I never saw one until 1998 or so, but my girlfriend 
tells me she used one in 1996.

The display was noisy, clicking loudly if you had the clock ticking away the 
seconds, and the first ports had mail pins.

the male pins were more prone to break, so Blazie came out with the 2000 
series, for the braille lite, and braille and speaks.

The ports on the 2000 series were female, and round, and could take more 
abuse, ie wear and tear.

The braille lite 40 had 40 cells of braille, and cursor routing keys. It 
also had two advance bars, and a sleeker paralell port.

Traille lite milenium were the last of the series to come out, and added a 
flash card, and whiz wheels, and in my opinion had inferior hardware 
components.

At this point FS was surely already developing the pac Mate, and dropped any 
further development for the braille lites, and braille and speaks. I believe 
they are still supported.

The 2000 series, if I remember correctly, added much more memory too, about 
10 megs for some units, which was phenomenal for people used to 640 k of 
usable writable memory.

At this time, also, one could brand the braille and speaks and braille lites 
with their name, or organization names.

Look at old braille lite 18 units from the Florida school for the deaf and 
the blind, and you will find my name on one of those babies, and that of my 
class mates, if the units are still around.

Just a little from memory.

Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patricia" <bcsarah.fan at gmail.com>
To: "nabs" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:17 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] help with an assistive technology presentation


> Hi everyone:
>
> I was asked about a month ago by my Disability Services Advisor if i would 
> be willing to do a presentation on assistive technology for the blind 
> across the lifespan for an assistive technology class that she would be 
> teaching to special Ed students. I jumped at the opportunity. I get an 
> hour and a half to present, and decided that before I delve into the 
> technology of today that I give a background on the technologies of the 
> past i.e. the very first commercial notetaker, the first notetaker with a 
> braille display, etc. As i never used many of these technologies myself 
> (the only notetaker I have ever used is the Pac Mate) I have been doing 
> research into the others to get a bit of a background and some info for 
> the presentation. However I can't seem to find any information on the 
> Braille Lite. This surprised me because this is a piece of technology that 
> many of my friends had used in school. I was wondering if any of you could 
> give me a brief history of the Braille LIte (the first version, before it 
> was taken over by Freedom Scientific). Does anyone know when the Braille 
> Lite came out?
>
> Any help on this would be great.
>
> Hope you all are having a wonderful summer.
>
> Patricia
>
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From jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 00:44:02 2009
From: jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com (Jess)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:44:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with an assistive technology presentation
In-Reply-To: <9FFDBAEC963C491EA5C515309BEF5553@Athena>
References: <9FFDBAEC963C491EA5C515309BEF5553@Athena>
Message-ID: <4a778454.86c3f10a.2078.365d@mx.google.com>

Patricia,
You are thinking about the Braille and Speak. And, the original company that
made it was Blazie  Engineering that's why you can't find much information
on the Braille and Speak.  I don't really know that much about the Braille
and Speak myself the only time I used one was when I was going through some
adjustment to blindness training in the fall of 2001 when I lived in Salt
Lake City Utah. 
Jessica


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Patricia
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:17 PM
To: nabs
Subject: [nabs-l] help with an assistive technology presentation

Hi everyone: 

I was asked about a month ago by my Disability Services Advisor if i would
be willing to do a presentation on assistive technology for the blind
across the lifespan for an assistive technology class that she would be
teaching to special Ed students. I jumped at the opportunity. I get an hour
and a half to present, and decided that before I delve into the technology
of today that I give a background on the technologies of the past i.e. the
very first commercial notetaker, the first notetaker with a braille display,
etc. As i never used many of these technologies myself (the only notetaker I
have ever used is the Pac Mate) I have been doing research into the others
to get a bit of a background and some info for the presentation. However I
can't seem to find any information on the Braille Lite. This surprised me
because this is a piece of technology that many of my friends had used in
school. I was wondering if any of you could give me a brief history of the
Braille LIte (the first version, before it was taken over by Freedom
Scientific). Does anyone know when the Braille Lite came out? 

Any help on this would be great. 

Hope you all are having a wonderful summer.      

Patricia 

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From troubleclark at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 12:12:35 2009
From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:12:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
In-Reply-To: <BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local>
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
	<fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local>
Message-ID: <fc8eb2b0908040512k6df7c7a0vc9ce862a280024f4@mail.gmail.com>

We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc Maurer.



On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
> Hey Nathan,
>
> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>
> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>
>
> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>
> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>
>> CONTACT:
>> Chris Danielsen
>> Director of Public Relations
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>
>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>
>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>> across the nation will close out the second
>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>> by the students about their week of scientific
>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>
>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>
>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> # # #
>>
>>
>>
>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>
>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>> influential membership organization of blind
>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From corbbo at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 15:34:38 2009
From: corbbo at gmail.com (Corbb O'Connor)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:34:38 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Victor reader stream issue... Help!!!
In-Reply-To: <4ed9a39a0907302209x2ca7b165m76a01b5bc4f45f8e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6D69A2D1-BDC7-4494-9A3A-517EEEE14668@gmail.com>
	<4ed9a39a0907302209x2ca7b165m76a01b5bc4f45f8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ed9a39a0908040834l1e2800f6h62fe31bccf89b627@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

For those interested, I found a solution to this problem. Instead of
using the USB cable that came with the Stream, use a separate SD card
reader. When I used that, I was able to accessthe Stream from the Mac
and PC sides of my Apple computer.

Best of luck,
Corbb

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Corbb O'Connor<corbbo at gmail.com> wrote:
> The same thing happens to me. As for you not being able to see the
> Stream, it's because you may need to format (or re-format) the SD
> card. Turn on the Stream, hit the 7 key until you hear "Format SD
> Card," and then confirm twice. You'll hear beeps until the card is
> reformatted. Note: you WILL lose ALL data on that SD card. Per the
> Stream manual, you will not be able to play the audio files without
> converting them via the converter software. But yes, I understand that
> you can't do that since the system locks up when I connect it to my
> Windows Virtual Machine.
>
> Corbb
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:49 PM, clinton
> waterbury<clinton.waterbury at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all.
>> I am using a victor reader stream to take notes for my classes, but I am
>> running into a couple of problems.
>> 1. The stream errors out when I connect it to my mac, and won't even let me
>> repair the disk.
>> 2. the audio files are not playable by the mac, but I may have another way
>> of playing those.
>> The not connecting issue is by far the worst issue with the thing I have,
>> and when I try to connect it to a winows virtual machine...  On the mac, the
>> stream locks up and I have to take out the pattery to even get it running
>> again.
>> Any ideas?
>>
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From daydreamingncolor at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 16:43:35 2009
From: daydreamingncolor at gmail.com (Aziza C)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:43:35 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
In-Reply-To: <fc8eb2b0908040512k6df7c7a0vc9ce862a280024f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
	<fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local>
	<fc8eb2b0908040512k6df7c7a0vc9ce862a280024f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <632092010908040943o51960625q73970dd6d6b6c0e3@mail.gmail.com>

Good going Nathan!
Email me off list, I have a question for you.
Aziza

On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
> Maurer.
>
>
>
> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>> Hey Nathan,
>>
>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>
>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>
>> Just wondering,
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>>
>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>
>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>
>>> CONTACT:
>>> Chris Danielsen
>>> Director of Public Relations
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>
>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>
>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>
>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> # # #
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 20:39:34 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:39:34 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
In-Reply-To: <632092010908040943o51960625q73970dd6d6b6c0e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com>
	<fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local>
	<fc8eb2b0908040512k6df7c7a0vc9ce862a280024f4@mail.gmail.com>
	<632092010908040943o51960625q73970dd6d6b6c0e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <409c235c0908041339x5bb2c588i62b45996605598c7@mail.gmail.com>

Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
 Darian

On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good going Nathan!
> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
> Aziza
>
> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>> Maurer.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>
>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>
>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>>
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>
>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>
>>>> CONTACT:
>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>
>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>
>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # # #
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>
>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 20:54:52 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:54:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
Message-ID: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
  i wanted to pose a topic to you all.
 We all found our way into the NFB/Nabs in some way. My question to
you all is how you were introduced into the NFB and what made you stay
a part of it?  What person or event  made you think "hey, this is
pretty cool"?  And
 For me, it was  Julie Deden and my then rehab counsolerTony Lewis
whogot me to go the the CCB for the summer program. I actually went
twice, and each time I was lucky enough to find friendship and  great
role models there. I saw what blind people were doing, and for the
first time, I was not hesitent  to use my cane, nor did I ever think
any differently of other blind folks.  What kept me were the people
who kind of have become my mentors, adults I've met in the program who
have kept in touch with me even today; years after  the fact.  With
what they've showed me, i feel like I should pay that foward.
    Thanks
 Darian


From rjaquiss at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  4 20:57:28 2009
From: rjaquiss at earthlink.net (Robert Jaquiss)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:57:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
	EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
References: <auto-000110135743@mailfront1.g2host.com><fc8eb2b0908030547o46196cddj24af1d722a0182d2@mail.gmail.com><BB78EFED76494ADE91056271D63640EF@nbp2.local><fc8eb2b0908040512k6df7c7a0vc9ce862a280024f4@mail.gmail.com><632092010908040943o51960625q73970dd6d6b6c0e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<409c235c0908041339x5bb2c588i62b45996605598c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92EC6668D3EC43A2BF1DFDAE9EE3ED14@D3DTZP41>

Hello:

     I was the assistant robotics instructor at Youth Slam. The Robot track 
had a short course in CSI. The students had a set of fingerprints which were 
processed with superglue and another set that was processed with graphite 
powder. The processed fingerprints were scanned, enlarged and printed out on 
Swell paper. All the pods in the Robot track were able to match up the 
prints properly.

     I am proud of what my track did. We had five robots which were 
programmed to follow a course and avoid objects. Some pods did better than 
others, but everyone had a great time.

Regards,

Robert Jaquiss, President
Greater Ouachita Chapter
National Federation of the Blind
Email: rjaquiss at earthlink.net 



From marrie12 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 21:34:16 2009
From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:34:16 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually
	Impaired To Its
Message-ID: <AE893B29F4DF42D790A46626E75384B9@sacomputer>

For Immediate Release

 
CONTACTS:

 
Mike DeAngelis

CVS/pharmacy

(401) 770-2645

 
Mitch Pomerantz

American Council of the Blind

(626) 372-5150

 
Adrianna Montague-Gray

American Foundation for the Blind

(212) 502-7675

 
CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually Impaired To Its
Web Site and Store Point-of-Sales Devices

Initiative Announced In Collaboration with State and National
Organizations for the Blind

 
WOONSOCKET, R.I., July 30, 2009:  CVS/pharmacy, the nation's largest
retail pharmacy, announced today that it is implementing functional
improvements to benefit its customers with visual impairments and other
disabilities.  The company has installed tactile keypads in all CVS
stores and it will enhance
its website in 2009.   

 
Today's announcement is the result of a collaboration between
CVS/pharmacy, the American Foundation for the Blind, American Council of
the Blind and California Council of the Blind.  CVS/pharmacy's actions
were applauded by these groups. 

 
"We are pleased to collaborate with organizations committed to advocacy
for the blind and introduce service enhancements in our stores and
online that will increase access for our visually impaired customers,"
said Helena Foulkes, Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing
Officer of CVS Caremark.  

 
Point-of-Sale Improvements

CVS/pharmacy's point-of-sale improvements are designed to assist
customers who cannot read information on a flat-screen point-of-sale
device and therefore cannot privately enter their PIN or other
confidential information.  All CVS stores have been equipped, at a
minimum, with a tactile device at both the front check-out counter and
the pharmacy counter to ensure that customers unable to use a
flat-screen keypad do not have to provide their PIN to a store employee.
The company is also training its store employees to provide appropriate
interaction with visually impaired customers regarding the use of the
new tactile devices.

"Without tactile keys, blind and visually impaired people have no choice
but to share their PINs with strangers," explained Melanie Brunson,
executive director of the American Council of the Blind.  "Today's
announcement, and the collaboration that led to it, demonstrates
CVS/pharmacy's ongoing commitment to its blind and visually impaired
customers." 

 
Web Site Access

The initiative includes CVS/pharmacy's commitment to ensure that its
online pharmacy,  < http://www.cvs.com/
<mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
w.cvs.com/> > www.cvs.com
<mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
w.cvs.com/>  , is accessible to
persons with a wide range of disabilities, including blind computer
users who use a screen reader or magnification technology on their
computers and those who rely on a keyboard instead of a mouse.  CVS.com
will implement these enhancements by the end of 2009.  

 
"An accessible web site is crucial if people with vision loss are to
obtain goods, services and information on an equal footing," said Paul
Schroeder, vice president, programs and policy group of the American
Foundation for the Blind.  "We appreciate CVS/pharmacy's commitment to
ensure that CVS.com is usable by the broadest range of online consumers,
including those who have disabilities."

 
About CVS/pharmacy

CVS/pharmacy, the retail division of CVS Caremark Corporation (NYSE:
CVS), is America's largest retail pharmacy with more than 6,900
CVS/pharmacy and Longs Drugs store locations. CVS/pharmacy is committed
to improving the lives of those we serve by making innovative and
high-quality health and pharmacy services safe, affordable and easy to
access, both in its stores and online at CVS.com. General information
about CVS/pharmacy and CVS Caremark is available at  <
http://www.cvscaremark.com/
<mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
w.cvscaremark.com/> > www.cvscaremark.com
<mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
w.cvscaremark.com/> .


From blindamp at q.com  Tue Aug  4 23:07:04 2009
From: blindamp at q.com (Marty James)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:07:04 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the
	VisuallyImpaired To Its
References: <AE893B29F4DF42D790A46626E75384B9@sacomputer>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>

and again, I ask "What about Script Talk if they really want to help the 
blind?"
Marty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the 
VisuallyImpaired To Its


> For Immediate Release
>
>
> CONTACTS:
>
>
> Mike DeAngelis
>
> CVS/pharmacy
>
> (401) 770-2645
>
>
> Mitch Pomerantz
>
> American Council of the Blind
>
> (626) 372-5150
>
>
> Adrianna Montague-Gray
>
> American Foundation for the Blind
>
> (212) 502-7675
>
>
> CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually Impaired To Its
> Web Site and Store Point-of-Sales Devices
>
> Initiative Announced In Collaboration with State and National
> Organizations for the Blind
>
>
> WOONSOCKET, R.I., July 30, 2009:  CVS/pharmacy, the nation's largest
> retail pharmacy, announced today that it is implementing functional
> improvements to benefit its customers with visual impairments and other
> disabilities.  The company has installed tactile keypads in all CVS
> stores and it will enhance
> its website in 2009.
>
>
> Today's announcement is the result of a collaboration between
> CVS/pharmacy, the American Foundation for the Blind, American Council of
> the Blind and California Council of the Blind.  CVS/pharmacy's actions
> were applauded by these groups.
>
>
> "We are pleased to collaborate with organizations committed to advocacy
> for the blind and introduce service enhancements in our stores and
> online that will increase access for our visually impaired customers,"
> said Helena Foulkes, Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing
> Officer of CVS Caremark.
>
>
> Point-of-Sale Improvements
>
> CVS/pharmacy's point-of-sale improvements are designed to assist
> customers who cannot read information on a flat-screen point-of-sale
> device and therefore cannot privately enter their PIN or other
> confidential information.  All CVS stores have been equipped, at a
> minimum, with a tactile device at both the front check-out counter and
> the pharmacy counter to ensure that customers unable to use a
> flat-screen keypad do not have to provide their PIN to a store employee.
> The company is also training its store employees to provide appropriate
> interaction with visually impaired customers regarding the use of the
> new tactile devices.
>
> "Without tactile keys, blind and visually impaired people have no choice
> but to share their PINs with strangers," explained Melanie Brunson,
> executive director of the American Council of the Blind.  "Today's
> announcement, and the collaboration that led to it, demonstrates
> CVS/pharmacy's ongoing commitment to its blind and visually impaired
> customers."
>
>
> Web Site Access
>
> The initiative includes CVS/pharmacy's commitment to ensure that its
> online pharmacy,  < http://www.cvs.com/
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvs.com/> > www.cvs.com
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvs.com/>  , is accessible to
> persons with a wide range of disabilities, including blind computer
> users who use a screen reader or magnification technology on their
> computers and those who rely on a keyboard instead of a mouse.  CVS.com
> will implement these enhancements by the end of 2009.
>
>
> "An accessible web site is crucial if people with vision loss are to
> obtain goods, services and information on an equal footing," said Paul
> Schroeder, vice president, programs and policy group of the American
> Foundation for the Blind.  "We appreciate CVS/pharmacy's commitment to
> ensure that CVS.com is usable by the broadest range of online consumers,
> including those who have disabilities."
>
>
> About CVS/pharmacy
>
> CVS/pharmacy, the retail division of CVS Caremark Corporation (NYSE:
> CVS), is America's largest retail pharmacy with more than 6,900
> CVS/pharmacy and Longs Drugs store locations. CVS/pharmacy is committed
> to improving the lives of those we serve by making innovative and
> high-quality health and pharmacy services safe, affordable and easy to
> access, both in its stores and online at CVS.com. General information
> about CVS/pharmacy and CVS Caremark is available at  <
> http://www.cvscaremark.com/
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvscaremark.com/> > www.cvscaremark.com
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvscaremark.com/> .
>
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From marrie12 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  4 23:28:47 2009
From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:28:47 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for
	theVisuallyImpaired To Its
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>
References: <AE893B29F4DF42D790A46626E75384B9@sacomputer>
	<BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <350F0ADD6295482095B38C40DF8C8365@sacomputer>

Why not contact them and  ask? I don't   know much about thi kind of stuff.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marty James
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:07 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for
theVisuallyImpaired To Its

and again, I ask "What about Script Talk if they really want to help the
blind?"
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the
VisuallyImpaired To Its


> For Immediate Release
>
>
> CONTACTS:
>
>
> Mike DeAngelis
>
> CVS/pharmacy
>
> (401) 770-2645
>
>
> Mitch Pomerantz
>
> American Council of the Blind
>
> (626) 372-5150
>
>
> Adrianna Montague-Gray
>
> American Foundation for the Blind
>
> (212) 502-7675
>
>
> CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually Impaired To Its 
> Web Site and Store Point-of-Sales Devices
>
> Initiative Announced In Collaboration with State and National 
> Organizations for the Blind
>
>
> WOONSOCKET, R.I., July 30, 2009:  CVS/pharmacy, the nation's largest 
> retail pharmacy, announced today that it is implementing functional 
> improvements to benefit its customers with visual impairments and 
> other disabilities.  The company has installed tactile keypads in all 
> CVS stores and it will enhance its website in 2009.
>
>
> Today's announcement is the result of a collaboration between 
> CVS/pharmacy, the American Foundation for the Blind, American Council 
> of the Blind and California Council of the Blind.  CVS/pharmacy's 
> actions were applauded by these groups.
>
>
> "We are pleased to collaborate with organizations committed to 
> advocacy for the blind and introduce service enhancements in our 
> stores and online that will increase access for our visually impaired
customers,"
> said Helena Foulkes, Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing 
> Officer of CVS Caremark.
>
>
> Point-of-Sale Improvements
>
> CVS/pharmacy's point-of-sale improvements are designed to assist 
> customers who cannot read information on a flat-screen point-of-sale 
> device and therefore cannot privately enter their PIN or other 
> confidential information.  All CVS stores have been equipped, at a 
> minimum, with a tactile device at both the front check-out counter and 
> the pharmacy counter to ensure that customers unable to use a 
> flat-screen keypad do not have to provide their PIN to a store employee.
> The company is also training its store employees to provide 
> appropriate interaction with visually impaired customers regarding the 
> use of the new tactile devices.
>
> "Without tactile keys, blind and visually impaired people have no 
> choice but to share their PINs with strangers," explained Melanie 
> Brunson, executive director of the American Council of the Blind.  
> "Today's announcement, and the collaboration that led to it, 
> demonstrates CVS/pharmacy's ongoing commitment to its blind and 
> visually impaired customers."
>
>
> Web Site Access
>
> The initiative includes CVS/pharmacy's commitment to ensure that its 
> online pharmacy,  < http://www.cvs.com/ 
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:htt
> p://ww
> w.cvs.com/> > www.cvs.com
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:htt
> p://ww
> w.cvs.com/>  , is accessible to
> persons with a wide range of disabilities, including blind computer 
> users who use a screen reader or magnification technology on their 
> computers and those who rely on a keyboard instead of a mouse.  
> CVS.com will implement these enhancements by the end of 2009.
>
>
> "An accessible web site is crucial if people with vision loss are to 
> obtain goods, services and information on an equal footing," said Paul 
> Schroeder, vice president, programs and policy group of the American 
> Foundation for the Blind.  "We appreciate CVS/pharmacy's commitment to 
> ensure that CVS.com is usable by the broadest range of online 
> consumers, including those who have disabilities."
>
>
> About CVS/pharmacy
>
> CVS/pharmacy, the retail division of CVS Caremark Corporation (NYSE:
> CVS), is America's largest retail pharmacy with more than 6,900 
> CVS/pharmacy and Longs Drugs store locations. CVS/pharmacy is 
> committed to improving the lives of those we serve by making 
> innovative and high-quality health and pharmacy services safe, 
> affordable and easy to access, both in its stores and online at 
> CVS.com. General information about CVS/pharmacy and CVS Caremark is 
> available at  < http://www.cvscaremark.com/ 
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:htt
> p://ww w.cvscaremark.com/> > www.cvscaremark.com 
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:htt
> p://ww
> w.cvscaremark.com/> .
>
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 00:54:19 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:54:19 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5EF95EDFB3384869ADFCD1B5BC3D8EB2@teal6e6857f643>

Hello all

Ok well hmmm....I have had alot of interesting experiences throughout my 
vision loss. At the kentucky office for the blind McDowell center there are 
3 or 4members. First I met tonia gatton. After hearing her story and 
accomplishments i commended her in disbelief. Thinking this woman is my 
hero. Then close to a year after i met tonia i was able to meet Mario Island 
who is now assisstant director of the McDowell center and long time member 
of NFB. He to had surpassed many obstacles that left me in aww. And last but 
not least Buffa Hans. Me and Buffa had many negative meetings but 
nevertheless i do admire a woman with that much want and determine to 
succeed. Over time all 3 had always spoke very highly of the NFB and many 
thins available through them and it basically gave me the want to 
investigate.

Through just this list i have had many questions answered and the feeling 
that i am not alone, everyone has similar setbacks, and through another list 
gave me the ability to interact with these people i mentioned above.

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere


> Hi all,
>  i wanted to pose a topic to you all.
> We all found our way into the NFB/Nabs in some way. My question to
> you all is how you were introduced into the NFB and what made you stay
> a part of it?  What person or event  made you think "hey, this is
> pretty cool"?  And
> For me, it was  Julie Deden and my then rehab counsolerTony Lewis
> whogot me to go the the CCB for the summer program. I actually went
> twice, and each time I was lucky enough to find friendship and  great
> role models there. I saw what blind people were doing, and for the
> first time, I was not hesitent  to use my cane, nor did I ever think
> any differently of other blind folks.  What kept me were the people
> who kind of have become my mentors, adults I've met in the program who
> have kept in touch with me even today; years after  the fact.  With
> what they've showed me, i feel like I should pay that foward.
>    Thanks
> Darian
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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 01:37:29 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:37:29 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
	EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer science 
track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all 
types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great meeting 
many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm rules!!

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam 
EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington


Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
 Darian

On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good going Nathan!
> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
> Aziza
>
> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>> Maurer.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>
>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>
>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>>
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>
>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>
>>>> CONTACT:
>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>
>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>
>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # # #
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>
>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 12:19:38 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:38 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The Radio360 Ho Down Throw Down Airs Tonight
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Hello There!
Normally on Wednesday nights following The Eclectic Collection, which airs from 7 to 9 PM eastern, we have A Night At The Movies.
However, tonight at 9 PM eastern, following Sabrina's show, we've got The Radio360 Ho Down Throw Down. Three hours of country music for the country fans out there, hosted by me and my sister Beth along with special guest James.
We'll be playing some country songs we like, taking your requests, and more!
If you'd like to interact with us tonight, you can do so
by email, aol instant messenger, or msn messenger at the address
live at radio360.us
when we're not playing songs, you can contact us through skype at
radio360usa
or we can be called when we're on the mic by dialing
516-717-4425
This should be a fun little country special, so to listen, save this email, and at 9 PM eastern, go to
http://www.radio360.us/players/playerselection.html
to be connected to the program. We hope to see you all there!
Best regards,
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 14:10:27 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:10:27 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Blind can take wheel with new vehicle
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Sarah,

If you would continue to vote against it after you'd seen the car in 
action, I would indeed be surprised.

First, the most common accident sighted people get into is one called 
"Looked but failed to see" (LBFTS).  In such an accident, the person 
did in fact look where the car they collide with was positioned, but 
somehow they failed to recognize the car until the collision, or 
until avoiding a collision was impossible.

The first prototype from Virginia Tech, a vehicle designed, 
assembled, and tested with literally no budget, makes that kind of 
accident virtually impossible.

The speed, steering, and object avoidance systems are precise and 
accurate.  They are the only systems thus far implemented, and a 
street-ready car will need more object avoidance systems for safety, 
but the proof of concept is there.

The questions are now will future versions of the system be 
accurately able to identify and read street signs, can the system 
become family-safe, and who is going to make the necessary 
adaptations to a GPS (which is wholly not optional for a blind driver 
IMO) to make the system work?

The point is that they said it couldn't be done.  It has been done.  
They said it couldn't be safe.  It is safe.  There is no illusion 
that this thing is ready for the road, of course, but we should 
believe now that it can be done.  In time, it will be done.

Joseph


On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 01:07:50AM -0700, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>I did voat against this in 2007 and I still do. Are you surprised?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Begin msg
>
> 
>
>Mark Riccobono, executive director of the National Federation of the Blind's
>Jernigan Institute, drives the Virginia Tech Blind Driver Challenge  vehicle
>through an obstacle course of traffic cones on a campus  parking lot. In the
>passenger seat is Greg Jannaman, who led the  student team within the
>mechanical engineering department during the  past year, and is monitoring
>the software of the vehicle. Credit:
>
> Steven Mackay, Virginia Tech
>
> 
>
> A student team in the Virginia Tech College of Engineering is  providing
>the blind with an opportunity many never thought possible:
>
> The opportunity to drive.
>
> 
>
> A retrofitted four-wheel dirt buggy developed by the Blind Driver
>Challenge team (http://www.me.vt.edu/blinddriver/) from Virginia  Tech's
>Robotics and Mechanisms Laboratory uses laser range finders, an  instant
>voice command interface and a host of other innovative,  cutting-edge
>technology to guide blind drivers as they steer, brake, and accelerate.
>
> Although in the early testing stage, the National Federation of the  Blind
>-- which spurred the project -- considers the vehicle a major  breakthrough
>for independent living of the visually impaired.
>
> 
>
> "It was great!" said Wes Majerus, of Baltimore, the first blind person  to
>drive the buggy on a closed course at the Virginia Tech campus this  summer.
>Majerus is an access technology specialist with the National  Federation of
>the Blind's Jernigan Institute in Baltimore, a research  and training
>institute dedicated to developing technologies and  services to help the
>blind achieve independence.
>
> 
>
> Majerus called his drive a liberating experience, adding that he drove
>before on Nebraska farm roads with his father as a guide in the  passenger
>seat.
>
> 
>
> Sitting inside the vehicle, a blind driver can turn the steering  wheel,
>stop and accelerate by following data from a computing unit  that uses
>sensory information from the laser range finder serving as  the 'eyes' of
>the driver, in addition to a combination of voice  commands and a vibrating
>vest as guides. A member of the Virginia Tech  student team sat next to
>Majerus in the passenger seat to monitor the system's software operations.
>
> 
>
> "It's a great first step," Majerus added. "As far as the differences
>between human instructions and those given by the voice in the Blind  Driver
>Challenge car, the car's instructions are very precise. You use  the
>technology to act on the environment -- the driving course -- in a  very
>orderly manner. In some cases, the human passenger will be vague,  "turn
>left" -- does that mean just a small turn to the left, or are we  going for
>large amounts of turn?"
>
> 
>
> Also driving the vehicle was Mark Riccobono, also of Baltimore, the
>executive director of the Jernigan Institute, who also is blind. He  called
>his test drive historic. "This is sort of our going to the moon project,"
>
> he said
>
> 
>
> In 2004 Jernigan Institute challenged university research teams to  develop
>a vehicle that would one day allow the blind to drive.
>
> Virginia Tech was the only university in the nation to accept the
>nonprofit's call two years later, said Dennis Hong, director of the
>Robotics and Mechanisms Laboratory, part of the Virginia Tech mechanical
>engineering department.
>
> The National Federation of the Blind provided a $3,000 grant to launch  the
>project.
>
> 
>
> "I thought it would be a very rewarding project, helping the blind,"
>
> said Hong, the current faculty adviser on the project. "We are not  only
>excited about the vehicle itself, but more than that, we are  excited about
>the potential of the many spin-off technologies from  this project that can
>be used for helping the blind in so many ways."
>
> 
>
> The team will bring the Blind Driver Challenge vehicle to the National
>Federation of the Blind's Youth Slam summer camp event held July 26  through
>Aug. 1 in College Park, Md. There, the team hopes to have  teenagers who
>would be obtaining their driver's licenses, but cannot  because of their
>blindness, drive the buggy.
>
> 
>
> Wesley Majerus, an access technology specialist with the National
>Federation of the Blind's Jernigan Institute, finishes driving the  Virginia
>Tech Blind Driver Challenge vehicle around a roped-off  driving course on a
>campus parking lot. The experience, he said, was liberating.
>
> 
>
> Youth participants also are expected to remote control drive miniature
>cars. Additionally, the car is expected to ride in a National  Federation of
>the Blind-sponsored parade in Washington D.C.
>
> 
>
> "I most look forward to learning as much as I can from these bright  young
>students," said Greg Jannaman, who led the Virginia Tech student  team in
>his senior year and graduated in May with a bachelor's degree  in mechanical
>engineering. "Blind students from across the nation  apply to be selected to
>attend this summer camp. While we are there to  provide an educational
>experience for them, I can only imagine the  invaluable feedback and fresh
>new ideas that they will provide in return."
>
> 
>
> Jannaman is excited about the vehicle's success. "There wasn't a  moment's
>hesitation with any of our blind drivers, whereas  blind-folded sighted
>drivers weren't as quick to let go of their  preconceptions," said Jannaman
>of Hendersonville, Tenn. "The blind  drivers actually performed better than
>their sighted counterparts. An  overwhelming sense of accomplishment
>overcame me as I simply rode  along while Wes and Mark successfully
>navigated the driving course without my assistance."
>
> 
>
> Early models of the Blind Driver Challenge vehicle relied more on
>technologies for fully autonomous vehicles, previously developed by
>Virginia Tech mechanical engineering students as part of the DARPA  Urban
>Challenge. The student team redesigned the vehicle so that the  blind
>motorist has complete control of the driving process, as any  sighted driver
>would.
>
> 
>
> This change in approach led to new challenges, including how to
>effectively convey the high bandwidth of information from the laser  sensors
>scanning the vehicle's surrounding environment to the driver  fast enough
>and accurate enough to allow safe driving. As a result,  the team developed
>non-visual interface technologies, including a  vibrating vest for feedback
>on speed, a click counter steering wheel  with audio cues, spoken commands
>for directional feedback, and a  unique tactile map interface that utilizes
>compressed air to provide  information about the road and obstacles
>surrounding the vehicle.
>
> 
>
> Riccobono knows of mock ups and non-working "blind driver car" set-ups
>from the past, but says this is the first working vehicle to put the  blind
>and visually impaired in control of the steering wheel. "Blind  people have
>brains, the capacity to make decisions," he said. "Blind  people want to
>live independent lives, why would they not want to drive?"
>
> 
>
> Even once the technology is perfected, laws now barring the blind from
>driving and public perception must be changed, Riccobono said. "This  is the
>piece that we know will be the most difficult," said Riccobono,  adding that
>the car must be near-perfected before the National  Federation of the Blind
>can truly push the car to law-makers and the  general public. He said this
>effort will take millions of dollars in development.
>
> 
>
> The 2009-10 student team already is planning major changes to the
>technology, including replacing the dirt buggy vehicle with a fully
>electric car commonly used by traffic officers in downtown city centers.
>
> The all-electric vehicle would reduce the vibration which can cause
>problems to the laser sensor, and it will provide clean electric power  for
>the computing units and that is better for the environment.
>
> 
>
> Source: Virginia Tech (news : web)
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Sarah Alawami
>
>msn: chellist at hotmail.com
>
>website: http://www.marrie.org
>
>twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1
>
> 
>
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 14:25:09 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:09 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
	Ends	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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...  hahahahaha!!

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:12:35AM -0400, Nathan Clark wrote:
>We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc Maurer.



From tinadt at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  5 15:33:18 2009
From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas )
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:33:18 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
	SlamEnds	withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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My group had finger prints, shoe prints, broken glass, soda can, blood,
white powder  and a weapon and we convicted Karen Zagnini. 

"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of
someone else's."
- Billy Wilder

 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:25 AM
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withMarch and Ceremony in Washington

...  hahahahaha!!

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:12:35AM -0400, Nathan Clark wrote:
>We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
Maurer.


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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 19:55:55 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:55:55 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Delaware Division NABS Entertainment Book Fundraiser
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Catherine Newman <nabs_delawaredivision at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Delaware Division  NABS Entertainment Book Fundraiser
To: nabs.president at gmail.com

Hello Arielle,

My name is Catherine Newman from the NABS Delaware Division. We wanted
to let you know that we are selling Entertainment Books for the whole
Country including Puerto Rio and Hawaii. The books are good form the
time you receive them till December of 2010. The books will be sold
from now till December 10, 2009. We would like to ask you to pass on
the word. We are trying to raise money for our State Convention, next
year’s National Educational Convention, and activities to help our
student division to grow.

If anyone has any other suggestion to help our group grow and earn
money it would be greatly appreciated.

You can order directly off the website and we will get the credit for
them. Click on the link that I have provided below and it should take
you directly to the site to order them. Thank you for your help,
support, and hope you can help us spread the word about these
fantastic books we are selling.

http://www.fundraising.entertainment.com/esale2.cfm?CI=953897&SI=678037&LI=1

Thanks again for your help!
Sincerely Yours,
Catherine Newman
NABS Delaware Division





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From aguimaraes at nbp.org  Wed Aug  5 20:57:52 2009
From: aguimaraes at nbp.org (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:57:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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Like slam 1,

6 rocks,
4 rules,
5's alive, or needs to strive.

Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!

Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.

ReadBooks Coordinator
National Braille Press
aguimaraes at nbp.org
1800 548-7323, ext 440.
(617) 266-6160

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From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth 
SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington


It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer science
track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great meeting
many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm rules!!

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington


Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
 Darian

On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good going Nathan!
> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
> Aziza
>
> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>> Maurer.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>
>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>
>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>>
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>
>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>
>>>> CONTACT:
>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>
>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>
>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # # #
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>
>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 21:01:25 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:01:25 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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When I say, Youth..
You say, Slam!

Arielle

On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
> Like slam 1,
>
> 6 rocks,
> 4 rules,
> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>
> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>
> ReadBooks Coordinator
> National Braille Press
> aguimaraes at nbp.org
> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
> (617) 266-6160
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>
>
> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer science
> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great meeting
> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm rules!!
>
> Dezman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>
>
> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>  Darian
>
> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good going Nathan!
>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>> Aziza
>>
>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>>> Maurer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>
>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>
>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>
>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>
>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>
>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>
>>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> # # #
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>
>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>
>>>>
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-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 22:18:37 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:18:37 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind
	Youth	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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Who are we?

TIRED.  *grin*

I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week, 
and I seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it 
seems to be just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*

Joseph


On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>When I say, Youth..
>You say, Slam!
>
>Arielle
>
>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>> Like slam 1,
>>
>> 6 rocks,
>> 4 rules,
>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>
>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>
>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>> National Braille Press
>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>> (617) 266-6160
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>>
>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer science
>> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
>> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great meeting
>> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm rules!!
>>
>> Dezman
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>>
>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
>> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>  Darian
>>
>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good going Nathan!
>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>> Aziza
>>>
>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>>>> Maurer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>
>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A narrative?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>
>-- 
>Arielle Silverman
>President, National Association of Blind Students
>Phone:  602-502-2255
>Email:
>nabs.president at gmail.com
>Website:
>www.nabslink.org
>
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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 00:41:30 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:41:30 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the
	BlindYouth	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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	<20090805221836.GK55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <33304001EB244F59B6E22FE323B7B506@Dezman>

Yeah, seems like there was enough of that bug to go around for many of us.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth 
SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington


> Who are we?
>
> TIRED.  *grin*
>
> I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week, and I 
> seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it seems to be 
> just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>When I say, Youth..
>>You say, Slam!
>>
>>Arielle
>>
>>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Like slam 1,
>>>
>>> 6 rocks,
>>> 4 rules,
>>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>>
>>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>>> National Braille Press
>>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>>> (617) 266-6160
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
>>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer 
>>> science
>>> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back 
>>> all
>>> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great 
>>> meeting
>>> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm 
>>> rules!!
>>>
>>> Dezman
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
>>> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>>  Darian
>>>
>>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Good going Nathan!
>>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>>> Aziza
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted 
>>>>> Marc
>>>>> Maurer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A 
>>>>>> narrative?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam 
>>>>>> Ends
>>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI 
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>>> the nation’s capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>>> in our nation’s capitol and will feature a
>>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam students­and everyone involved
>>>>>>> with the Youth Slam­will never forget. This
>>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I’m so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>>> way. I’m also so proud of the students who’ve
>>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>>> blind people’s lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/troubleclark%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>
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>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Arielle Silverman
>>President, National Association of Blind Students
>>Phone:  602-502-2255
>>Email:
>>nabs.president at gmail.com
>>Website:
>>www.nabslink.org
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nabs-l mailing list
>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From tinadt at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  6 01:06:18 2009
From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas )
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:06:18 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of theBlindYouth	SlamEndswithMarch
	and Ceremony in Washington
In-Reply-To: <33304001EB244F59B6E22FE323B7B506@Dezman>
Message-ID: <836040.99579.bm@omp417.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm glad I didn't catch it. 
Tina  


"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of
someone else's."
- Billy Wilder

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Dezman Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:42 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of theBlindYouth SlamEndswithMarch
and Ceremony in Washington

Yeah, seems like there was enough of that bug to go around for many of us.

Dezman
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth
SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington


> Who are we?
>
> TIRED.  *grin*
>
> I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week, 
> and I seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it 
> seems to be just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>When I say, Youth..
>>You say, Slam!
>>
>>Arielle
>>
>>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Like slam 1,
>>>
>>> 6 rocks,
>>> 4 rules,
>>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>>
>>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>>> National Braille Press
>>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>>> (617) 266-6160
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth 
>>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer 
>>> science track and created chat bots that one could type into and 
>>> receive back all types of cool info depending on how it was 
>>> programmed.  It was great meeting many of you who are on this list 
>>> as well and remember, Hartford dorm rules!!
>>>
>>> Dezman
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam 
>>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  
>>> Who was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>>  Darian
>>>
>>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Good going Nathan!
>>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>>> Aziza
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted 
>>>>> Marc Maurer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A 
>>>>>> narrative?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam 
>>>>>> Ends
>>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI 
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>>> the nation's capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>>> in our nation's capitol and will feature a
>>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam students-and everyone involved
>>>>>>> with the Youth Slam-will never forget. This
>>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I'm so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>>> way. I'm also so proud of the students who've
>>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>>> blind people's lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>-- 
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>>President, National Association of Blind Students
>>Phone:  602-502-2255
>>Email:
>>nabs.president at gmail.com
>>Website:
>>www.nabslink.org
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From queen.marsha.lindsey at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 03:00:11 2009
From: queen.marsha.lindsey at gmail.com (Marsha)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:00:11 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the
	BlindYouth	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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I made it through too, well and so did my voice from screaming "food line
this way" for the entire week. But when I got home I came down with a
infection in my chest and sinus that I can not get rid of now. It was a
GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT week though and would never trade it for the world!

Who are We: The NFB!!!! 

Marsha the Marshal 



-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of T. Joseph Carter
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:19 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth
SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington

Who are we?

TIRED.  *grin*

I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week, 
and I seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it 
seems to be just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*

Joseph


On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>When I say, Youth..
>You say, Slam!
>
>Arielle
>
>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>> Like slam 1,
>>
>> 6 rocks,
>> 4 rules,
>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>
>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>
>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>> National Braille Press
>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>> (617) 266-6160
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>>
>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer
science
>> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
>> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great
meeting
>> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm
rules!!
>>
>> Dezman
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>>
>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
>> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>  Darian
>>
>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good going Nathan!
>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>> Aziza
>>>
>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>>>> Maurer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>
>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A
narrative?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>> the nation's capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>> in our nation's capitol and will feature a
>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>> the Youth Slam students-and everyone involved
>>>>>> with the Youth Slam-will never forget. This
>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I'm so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>> way. I'm also so proud of the students who've
>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>> blind people's lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>-- 
>Arielle Silverman
>President, National Association of Blind Students
>Phone:  602-502-2255
>Email:
>nabs.president at gmail.com
>Website:
>www.nabslink.org
>
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From troubleclark at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 11:57:39 2009
From: troubleclark at gmail.com (Nathan Clark)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth
	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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Aziza, what is your phone number.
Nathan Clark

On 8/5/09, Marsha <queen.marsha.lindsey at gmail.com> wrote:
> I made it through too, well and so did my voice from screaming "food line
> this way" for the entire week. But when I got home I came down with a
> infection in my chest and sinus that I can not get rid of now. It was a
> GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT week though and would never trade it for the world!
>
> Who are We: The NFB!!!!
>
> Marsha the Marshal
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:19 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth
> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>
> Who are we?
>
> TIRED.  *grin*
>
> I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week,
> and I seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it
> seems to be just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>When I say, Youth..
>>You say, Slam!
>>
>>Arielle
>>
>>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Like slam 1,
>>>
>>> 6 rocks,
>>> 4 rules,
>>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>>
>>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>>> National Braille Press
>>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>>> (617) 266-6160
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
>>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer
> science
>>> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
>>> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great
> meeting
>>> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm
> rules!!
>>>
>>> Dezman
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
>>> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>>  Darian
>>>
>>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Good going Nathan!
>>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>>> Aziza
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>>>>> Maurer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A
> narrative?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>>> the nation's capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>>> in our nation's capitol and will feature a
>>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>>> the Youth Slam students-and everyone involved
>>>>>>> with the Youth Slam-will never forget. This
>>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I'm so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>>> way. I'm also so proud of the students who've
>>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>>> blind people's lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From aguimaraes at nbp.org  Thu Aug  6 15:09:03 2009
From: aguimaraes at nbp.org (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:09:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Election calls?
Message-ID: <8E9FA77A40FF4600A0D105ACE1A17C70@nbp2.local>

Any word about the election issues conference call mentioned below?

Antonio Guimaraes

Hello NABS members:

Tonight the National Association of Blind Students board met and,
among other things, we talked about some of the issues surrounding
NABS elections. We would very much like to hold a discussion with all
of you and get your opinions about how the election process can be
improved. To start this process, we would like to hold a conference
call, open to all NABS members, sometime between August 5 and August
13.

If you'd be interested in participating in the conference call,
please email Janice Jeang, NABS secretary, at
Janice.jeang at gmail.com
And tell her what day of the week between August 5 and August 13 would
work best for you.

Thanks and hope many of you will participate in the dialogue!

Arielle


From PMaurer at nfb.org  Thu Aug  6 15:58:58 2009
From: PMaurer at nfb.org (Maurer, Patricia)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:58:58 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] How many children in America are not taught to read?
Message-ID: <auto-000113299196@mailfront2.g2host.com>


----------
From: Marc Maurer [mailto:outreach at nfb.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:14 PM
To: Maurer, Patricia
Subject: How many children in America are not taught to read?

The answer is 90 percent if the children are blind.  Most Americans 
are shocked to hear this statistic.  And we should be.  The blind 
read and write using Braille, so why is our educational system 
failing to teach Braille to so many children?  Why are these children 
being denied the opportunities that come with a proper 
education?  What if you could not read and write?  Where would you be today?

There are three primary reasons for this educational crisis: (1) 
there are not enough Braille teachers; (2) some teachers of blind 
children have not received enough training; and (3) many educators do 
not think Braille instruction is even necessary.

To bring critically-needed attention to this educational crisis, the 
United States Congress authorized the minting of the 2009 Louis 
Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar with a portion of the sale of each 
coin going toward a revolutionary and comprehensive Braille literacy 
campaign.

Learning to read and write is fundamental to education, which in turn 
is paramount to full and equal participation in American 
society.  This coin, the first U.S. coin to have proper tactile 
Braille, symbolizes independence, opportunity, and the potential of 
blind people to make significant contributions to society when they 
are taught to read and write using Braille.  To learn more, read our 
report 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=yeymcYhMheQ-y7-mcNDRWg..>The 
Braille Literacy Crisis in America, or watch our video 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=8AWBxYZpjpELqegcgZlFhg..>Making 
Change with a Dollar.

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=oU7TznrVm6kt3P1O7AWYDg..>Please 
purchase this unique and beautiful coin now and help solve this 
educational crisis for blind children in America.

The law authorizing this 2009 silver dollar requires that any coins 
not sold by midnight on December 31, 2009, be melted down.  Time is 
of the essence--a 90 percent illiteracy rate is not acceptable and 
the opportunity to purchase this coin will soon be gone.

Be part of the solution.  Give the gift of literacy.  Create new 
opportunities. 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=nMVjIeI1iave6Nk717B4dA..>Buy 
the Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar today.

Marc Maurer, President
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND


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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:21:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Ai Squared Releases ZoomText Express
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 17:34:39 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:34:39 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the
	BlindYouth	SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
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Aziza, I wouldn't answer that question on-list--the list is archived 
in public.  So would be your name and number.

Joseph

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:57:39AM -0400, Nathan Clark wrote:
>Aziza, what is your phone number.
>Nathan Clark
>
>On 8/5/09, Marsha <queen.marsha.lindsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I made it through too, well and so did my voice from screaming "food line
>> this way" for the entire week. But when I got home I came down with a
>> infection in my chest and sinus that I can not get rid of now. It was a
>> GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT week though and would never trade it for the world!
>>
>> Who are We: The NFB!!!!
>>
>> Marsha the Marshal
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of T. Joseph Carter
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:19 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the BlindYouth
>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>
>> Who are we?
>>
>> TIRED.  *grin*
>>
>> I managed to make it through the Youth Slam, but it was a long week,
>> and I seem to have caught the first bug that came along.  Glad it
>> seems to be just a cold.  *sniffle, cough*
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 07:01:25AM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>>When I say, Youth..
>>>You say, Slam!
>>>
>>>Arielle
>>>
>>>On 8/6/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>> Like slam 1,
>>>>
>>>> 6 rocks,
>>>> 4 rules,
>>>> 5's alive, or needs to strive.
>>>>
>>>> Oh the slammic floor competitions of 2007!
>>>>
>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>
>>>> ReadBooks Coordinator
>>>> National Braille Press
>>>> aguimaraes at nbp.org
>>>> 1800 548-7323, ext 440.
>>>> (617) 266-6160
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth
>>>> SlamEndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was awsom being a Youth Slam mentor.  My pod was in the computer
>> science
>>>> track and created chat bots that one could type into and receive back all
>>>> types of cool info depending on how it was programmed.  It was great
>> meeting
>>>> many of you who are on this list as well and remember, Hartford dorm
>> rules!!
>>>>
>>>> Dezman
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:39 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>> EndswithMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathan, that sounds like  such fun! Not gonna lie, kinda jealous!  Who
>>>> was in your pod?  Awsomeness!
>>>>  Darian
>>>>
>>>> On 8/4/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Good going Nathan!
>>>>> Email me off list, I have a question for you.
>>>>> Aziza
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/4/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We had finger prints, blood, a weapon and a narative. We convicted Marc
>>>>>> Maurer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/3/09, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Nathan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did that work? Who did you end up arresting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What did you have to work with. Finger prints, fake blood?  A
>> narrative?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wondering,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam Ends
>>>>>>> withMarch and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My name is nathan Clark and I am from Maryland. I was in the CSI track
>>>>>>> and it was cool. We got to solve murder mysteries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/1/09, Freeh, Jessica <JFreeh at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CONTACT:
>>>>>>>> Chris Danielsen
>>>>>>>> Director of Public Relations
>>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>> (410) 659-9314, extension 2330
>>>>>>>> (410) 262- 1281 (Cell)
>>>>>>>> cdanielsen at nfb.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam
>>>>>>>> Ends with March and Ceremony in Washington
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NASA to Present Braille Coins That Flew in Space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Washington, D.C. (July 31, 2009): Two hundred
>>>>>>>> blind high school students and their mentors from
>>>>>>>> across the nation will close out the second
>>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam in
>>>>>>>> the nation's capitol this afternoon. The students
>>>>>>>> will begin their visit to Washington at 2 p.m.
>>>>>>>> with a rally at the Lincoln Memorial followed by
>>>>>>>> a march down the mall to the brand new Capitol
>>>>>>>> Visitors Center, where the closing ceremonies of
>>>>>>>> the Youth Slam will take place at 6 p.m. The
>>>>>>>> closing festivities will include a presentation
>>>>>>>> by the students about their week of scientific
>>>>>>>> study, as well as a special presentation by
>>>>>>>> senior officials of the National Aeronautics and
>>>>>>>> Space Administration. NASA will present the NFB
>>>>>>>> with two Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
>>>>>>>> Dollars that flew aboard space shuttle Atlantis
>>>>>>>> on its mission to the Hubble Space Telescope in
>>>>>>>> May 2009. Astronaut Gregory H. Johnson will be
>>>>>>>> among the dignitaries in attendance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National
>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, said: "The National
>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is thrilled that our
>>>>>>>> second Youth Slam will conclude with a ceremony
>>>>>>>> in our nation's capitol and will feature a
>>>>>>>> presentation by leaders in the field of space
>>>>>>>> exploration. This is doubtless an experience that
>>>>>>>> the Youth Slam students-and everyone involved
>>>>>>>> with the Youth Slam-will never forget. This
>>>>>>>> closing event will symbolize the belief of the
>>>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind, and all of our
>>>>>>>> partners in the Youth Slam, that blind people,
>>>>>>>> like everyone else, have a spirit of adventure, a
>>>>>>>> willingness to explore new ideas and new worlds,
>>>>>>>> and a boundless capacity to imagine a future full of possibility."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I'm so proud of all the Youth Slam partners here
>>>>>>>> today and the work you do every day, in every
>>>>>>>> way. I'm also so proud of the students who've
>>>>>>>> traveled from all over the country for a week of
>>>>>>>> intense STEM training. You have so much to offer
>>>>>>>> and deserve the opportunity to earn your stars in
>>>>>>>> STEM fields. I am committed to making sure you
>>>>>>>> have that opportunity," said Senator Mikulski,
>>>>>>>> Chairwoman of the Senate Appropriations
>>>>>>>> Subcommittee that funds NASA. "I was proud to put
>>>>>>>> $600,000 in the federal checkbook to support
>>>>>>>> NFB's Youth Slam and to develop teaching and
>>>>>>>> training techniques for the blind and visually
>>>>>>>> impaired. I will continue to fight for federal
>>>>>>>> investments in key programs like this one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # # #
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About the National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With more than 50,000 members, the National
>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind is the largest and most
>>>>>>>> influential membership organization of blind
>>>>>>>> people in the United States. The NFB improves
>>>>>>>> blind people's lives through advocacy, education,
>>>>>>>> research, technology, and programs encouraging
>>>>>>>> independence and self-confidence. It is the
>>>>>>>> leading force in the blindness field today and
>>>>>>>> the voice of the nation's blind. In January 2004
>>>>>>>> the NFB opened the National Federation of the
>>>>>>>> Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and
>>>>>>>> training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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From astrochem119 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 19:19:04 2009
From: astrochem119 at gmail.com (Chelsea Cook)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:19:04 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Technology History
Message-ID: <dc01d7be0908061219l4f989e5fw374eec4265df6e90@mail.gmail.com>

I've been following the list and just came across this in another
E-mail. It might help some.

6) You can learn about the earlier days of assistive technology by
visiting the Assistive Technology Oral History Project website at
http://www.atoralhistory.org

Chelsea Cook


From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 20:10:47 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:10:47 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [nfbmi-talk] Braille music resources
References: <1217875258.5682111248724604931.JavaMail.root@sz0144a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><SNT105-W100F69DCD50E7910329A1AA1150@phx.gbl>
	<auto-000109432136@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <CF68E28E0D334AA891F4AC6713FCA57E@teal6e6857f643>

Something i have found through google is this very interesting sight that 
may help you.
www.goethe.de/wis/bib/dos/bip/sac/en82057-Teal
----- 

Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: [nfbmi-talk] Braille music resources


While you make a good point that people should
check with the originator before recirculating
information, the other side of it is that you
posted to a public list, that is archived, and
searchable via google and everybody else.  Any
message posted on any public list can always take
on a life of its own, so you should never post
personal information unless you want it to be public.

Dave

At 08:25 PM 7/27/2009, you wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>I originally posted this message only on the Michigan listserv since we are 
>looking for resources in the Michigan area.  Please do not contact me 
>unless you have any useful information we could use in Michigan for my 
>sister to learn Braille music.  A note for those who forward personal 
>messages from other lists, I hope you contact the person who originally 
>posted the message to make sure that it is okay that the message can be 
>forwarded on as it appears.  I did not intend for my message to extend past 
>the Michigan listserv.
>
>Thanks,
>Diana Mohnke
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:56:44 +0000
> > From: amylsabo at comcast.net
> > To: PERFORM-TALK at NFBNET.ORG
> > CC: NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG
> > Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [nfbmi-talk] Braille music resources
> >
> > hello all,
> >
> > i'm forwarding to you all a message in
> regards to finding resources or ideas for braille music.. pleasse read the 
> note for more information. take care all and i will talk to you all soon!
> >
> >
> > hugs,
> > from amy
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >
> > From: Diana Mohnke
> >
> > To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
> >
> > Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:09:03 +0000 (UTC)
> >
> > Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Braille music resources
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone here know of anyone in Michigan
> who teaches Braille music? Kim has been learning Braille music from an 
> elderly
> >
> > woman in Lansing
> >
> > who has recently become ill. It would be
> >
> > preferable to have someone from the Lansing
> >
> > area but all resources are welcomed. Feel
> >
> > free to contact me at d_mohnke18 at yahoo.com
> >
> > or by phone at 989-640-3171.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Diana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 20:50:20 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:20 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] National Association of Blind Students August Bulletin!
Message-ID: <85ff10070908061350n5a052accq4a4bd38e83104efc@mail.gmail.com>

National Association of Blind Students
>From the Desk of the President
Thursday August 6, 2009

In This Bulletin:
1.  Check out the NABS Website!
2. New NABS Board of Directors
3.  Report on 2009 NFB Youth Slam
4.  News from Across the Country:
	Southeast Regional Seminar, Aug.  14-16
	Montana Student Campout: Aug.  21-23
	BookShare Contest

If you have any questions or suggestions for NABS, or if you no longer
wish to receive these monthly newsletters, please contact:
Arielle Silverman, President
National Association of Blind Students
Phone: 602-502-2255
Email:
president at nabslink.org




1. Check out the NABS Website!

Are you looking for college scholarships? Have questions about the
college application process? Want to explore your options for
blindness training? Want to chat with other blind students in your
state or across the nation?

You’ll find all these things and more on our Website! Just go to
www.nabslink.org
your one-stop shop for information and resources that will help you at
every stage of your academic journey.

2.  New NABS Board of Directors:
On Saturday, July 4, at the NFB national convention in Detroit, the
National Association of Blind Students elected a new board of
directors.  Each member of the board is responsible for co-chairing
one of our NABS committees and also serves as NABS rep for one region
of the country.  Here is a list of all the NABS board members along
with the committees they chair and the region that they represent.
Feel free to contact any of these board members if you want to serve
on one of the NABS committees or if you'd like some advice about
student division building in your state.

President: Arielle Silvouman
Email: president at nabslink.org
First Vice-President: Karen Anderson
Committee: Student Slate
Region: Eastern Seaboard; Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts,
Vermont,  Rhode Island, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New York, New
Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Washington, D.C.
Email:
Kea_anderson at cox.net
Second Vice-President: Sean Whalen
Committee: Student Slate
Region: Great Lakes; Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois
Email:
smwhalenpsp at gmail.com

Secretary: Janice Jeang
Committee: Membership
Region: Southeast; Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina,
Tennessee, Puerto Rico
Email:
Janice.jeang at gmail.com

Treasurer: Nijat Worley
Committee: Fundraising
Region: Mountain;  Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Colorado
Email:
Nijat1989 at gmail.com

Board Member: Isaiah Wilcox
Committee: Fundraising
Region: Southern; Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas
Email:
Iwilcox2011 at gmail.com

Board Member: Meghan Whalen
Committee: Website
Region: Heartland; Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Minnesota, Nebraska
Email:
mewhalen at wisc.edu

Board Member: Domonique Lawless
Committee: Student Slate
Region: Northwest; Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming
Email:
Dlawless86 at gmail.com

Board Member: Darian Smith
Committee: Membership
Region: Southwest; Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico
Email:
dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Website Co-Chair: Juan del Rosario
Email:
Blindrocker87 at gmail.com

Listserv Chair: Jedi Moerke
Email:
blindjedi at clearwire.net


3.  Report on 2009 NFB Youth Slam:
I have just returned from the NFB's second Youth Slam, which was held
at the University of Maryland July 26-31.  Nearly two hundred blind
high school students gathered to participate in challenging science,
technology, engineering and math (STEM) activities under the guidance
and supervision of blind adult role models.  The studenss were divided
into eleven "tracks" that each specialized in a particular topic such
as astronomy, computer science, forensics, engineering and exercise
science.  One group even got to drive a prototype of a car for blind
drivers that's being developed by researchers at Virginia Tech
University.  You can browse real-time podcasts and blogs from the
Youth Slam and find out more about what each track did by going to
www.nfbyouthslam.org
For me as a Slam mentor, a real highlight of the program came on the
last day, when we embarked on a two-mile march through Washington,
D.C.  from the Lincoln Memorial to the U.S.  Capitol building.  At the
beginning of the march, rain was pouring down on us, and we were all
exhausted from a long and active week.  As we marched, we repeated a
series of spirited chants and cheers, including the mantra, "When
someone tells us we can't do math and science because we are blind, we
say, Slam That!" Despite our fatigue, aching feet and the pouring
rain, we all shouted, "Slam That!" with energy and conviction.  To me
this represents the resilience of our members, and our collective
defiance of the basic misconceptions about blindness that have all too
often prevented us from reaching our potential.  It is this defiance
along with our creativity and imagination that, I believe,
distinguishes the NFB and its student division from other
organizations of and for the blind.  I look forward to seeing the work
that our Youth Slammers will do to make full access to math and
science careers a reality for themselves and for those who come after
them.

4. News from Across the Country:
Southeast Regional Seminar, August 14-16:
"U Improving U" Student Seminar

Brought to you by the National Association of Blind Students, Southern
Region.

Hosted by the Georgia Association of Blind Students.

Where: The Ramada Plaza, 100 1st street, Downtown Macon, Georgia

When: August 14 to August 16, 2009

Who: All blind students from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina,
South Carolina, and Tennessee are encouraged to attend.

What: There will be exciting topics such as:

o   Technology
o   Preparing for College
o   Fashion
o   Developing a Student Division
o   Career Development
o   NFB Philosophy
o   And Much Much More!!!

To reserve your hotel room, call the Ramada Plaza  at: (478) 746-1461

The registration fee is $20 for the seminar and $20 for the banquet.
Pre-Register now before the deadline August 1st to receive a $10 discount.
Go to
www.nfbga.org/GABS/
 to register.

Come join us in an eventfull weekend that will inspire you to improve
yourself personally.  You will have opportunities to meet new people, be
exposed to valuable information, and to have fun!

For more information contact Isaiah Wilcox by phone (404) 291-7791 or by
e-mail,
iwilcox at nfbga.org

Isaiah Wilcox
President of the Georgia Association of Blind Students
Phone: 404-291-7791
E-mail:
iwilcox2011 at gmail.com

Montana Association of Blind Students Campout, August 21-23:
The Montana Association of Blind Students is Hosting a Student Campout
 From August 21st – August 23rd, the Montana Association of Blind
Students (MABS) will be hosting a Student Division campout. The
campout will take place at a campground 12 miles south of Bozeman,
Montana. The campout is free to Montana students; MABS is covering the
cost of transportation, food, camping fees, and camping gear (if
necessary). Students will be getting to the campground via Greyhound
bus and by hired/volunteer drivers (thanks to Donna McCulloch, the
Bozeman Chapter President, and her husband for volunteering to drive
us around Bozeman).
 At the moment, there are seven people coming, including Dan Burke,
the Montana state affiliate President. The purpose of the campout is
to serve as both an informal gathering, as well as an organizational
meeting in preparation for seeking formal recognition of MABS at the
Montana state convention in October. If you are interested in
attending the campout, or if you have any questions, please contact
Jim Reed at (406) 371- 5047.

Bookshare Contest for K-12 Students:
Have you ever been really moved by a book? Has a character ever fascinated
you? Bookshare wants to know, and so do other Bookshare readers!

Through September 15, U.S. Bookshare Members in grades K-12 can participate
in the Reader's Voice Contest and win some great prizes! Participants must
download a new book in the months of August and September and write an
online review of at least 100 words.

To learn more about this exciting contest, visit this link
http://bookshare.org/brochure/community/contest/readersVoice

Best,

Allison Hilliker
Collection Development Associate
WWW.Bookshare.Org
E-mail
allisonh at benetech.org



-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From snowball07 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 21:13:48 2009
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:13:48 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
Message-ID: <E273A8BA77B24DFBB95FBAA384D27C96@your0d10610b06>

Hello Nabsters,

My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and juggling, a time has been tentatively set for the conference call. 
The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this upcoming Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and discussing concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election process. 
I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your reference, before the meeting. It wil be following shortly. I will also be sending out daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will also send out a tentative agenda.  

If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can also decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on everybody's concerns about the election process. This will also be open shoudl any of you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns adn thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help the board bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.  
If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns about the conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody there!

Kindest Regards,

Janice Jeang 

Secretary 
National Association of Blind Students
www.nabslink.org
cell- 832.769.5082

From jbrastrup at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  6 22:41:51 2009
From: jbrastrup at yahoo.com (jamie brastrup)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:41:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] need to network
Message-ID: <484096.73750.qm@web58701.mail.re1.yahoo.com>


hhi all, 
i just started school and i really like it its not a university and the classes are smaller and there 1 a month. 
i am going for a criminal justice degree and thinking of being a parole officer. any other options so i can give vr a goal at least so they will help with some things that i need. i have financial aide and the school that i am attending will place me in a job after i graduate i have some questions though for those of you that have getting the same degree. 
how did you deal with anatomy and physiology class? legal writing? and statistics and research? 
and what other jobs could i do with a criminal justice degree. i know that there is PO PI dispatch phorenzics and much more. 
please email me privately because i wont check the digest emails. 
my email is 
jbrastrup at yahoo.com 
thanks jamie 





      



From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 23:27:45 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:27:45 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Election calls?
In-Reply-To: <8E9FA77A40FF4600A0D105ACE1A17C70@nbp2.local>
References: <8E9FA77A40FF4600A0D105ACE1A17C70@nbp2.local>
Message-ID: <20090806232745.GR55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Including direct reply with list post:

Janice Jeang has posted a message to this list to ask about times, 
but it hasn't gone out to everyone yet--at least, I haven't gotten it 
yet.  Mailman sucks--it just sucks less than all of the alternatives.

The tentative time is 8pm EDT on Sunday.  That's the one time all 
week when I have another engagement I cannot move.  I live in a town 
without a grocery store, and my first, last, and only chance for a 
Catholic mass is 5pm PDT.

My preference is either 9pm EDT or 5pm EDT.  I can offer something in 
writing prior to the teleconference if earlier or later times cannot 
be arranged.

Joseph


On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 11:09:03AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>Any word about the election issues conference call mentioned below?
>
>Antonio Guimaraes
>
>Hello NABS members:
>
>Tonight the National Association of Blind Students board met and,
>among other things, we talked about some of the issues surrounding
>NABS elections. We would very much like to hold a discussion with all
>of you and get your opinions about how the election process can be
>improved. To start this process, we would like to hold a conference
>call, open to all NABS members, sometime between August 5 and August
>13.
>
>If you'd be interested in participating in the conference call,
>please email Janice Jeang, NABS secretary, at
>Janice.jeang at gmail.com
>And tell her what day of the week between August 5 and August 13 would
>work best for you.
>
>Thanks and hope many of you will participate in the dialogue!
>
>Arielle
>
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 01:11:15 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:11:15 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <E273A8BA77B24DFBB95FBAA384D27C96@your0d10610b06>
References: <E273A8BA77B24DFBB95FBAA384D27C96@your0d10610b06>
Message-ID: <20090807011115.GS55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>

I cannot make this time.  Earlier or later I can manage, but 
specifically between 7:45pm EDT and 8:45pm, I have religious 
obligations in that time frame.

Would earlier or later work for interested people?  9pm or 5pm 
perhaps?

My understanding is that this call is focused on solutions to the 
election problems rather than hashing out complaints about the 
previous elections.  It shouldn't be too contentious, and I can't 
imagine it running really late.

I've got a potential solution.  It's not uniquely mine, and it's not 
probably not perfect.  I hope that other callers can help improve it.

Joseph


On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 04:13:48PM -0500, Janice wrote:
>Hello Nabsters,
>
>My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and juggling, a time has been tentatively set for the conference call. 
>The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this upcoming Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and discussing concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election process. 
>I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your reference, before the meeting. It wil be following shortly. I will also be sending out daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will also send out a tentative agenda.  
>
>If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can also decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on everybody's concerns about the election process. This will also be open shoudl any of you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns adn thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help the board bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.  
>If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns about the conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
>janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody there!
>
>Kindest Regards,
>
>Janice Jeang 
>
>Secretary 
>National Association of Blind Students
>www.nabslink.org
>cell- 832.769.5082
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From corbbo at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 02:55:18 2009
From: corbbo at gmail.com (Corbb O'Connor)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:55:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the
	VisuallyImpaired To Its
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>
References: <AE893B29F4DF42D790A46626E75384B9@sacomputer>
	<BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B53B68D6-341D-4C8A-953E-A0AEB45EE74F@gmail.com>

Thanks for sharing this, Sarah. What great news for all of us! A  
retail store taking initiative to make touch screens accessible.

Corbb


On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Marty James wrote:

and again, I ask "What about Script Talk if they really want to help  
the blind?"
Marty

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org 
 >
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the  
VisuallyImpaired To Its


> For Immediate Release
>
>
> CONTACTS:
>
>
> Mike DeAngelis
>
> CVS/pharmacy
>
> (401) 770-2645
>
>
> Mitch Pomerantz
>
> American Council of the Blind
>
> (626) 372-5150
>
>
> Adrianna Montague-Gray
>
> American Foundation for the Blind
>
> (212) 502-7675
>
>
> CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually Impaired To Its
> Web Site and Store Point-of-Sales Devices
>
> Initiative Announced In Collaboration with State and National
> Organizations for the Blind
>
>
> WOONSOCKET, R.I., July 30, 2009:  CVS/pharmacy, the nation's largest
> retail pharmacy, announced today that it is implementing functional
> improvements to benefit its customers with visual impairments and  
> other
> disabilities.  The company has installed tactile keypads in all CVS
> stores and it will enhance
> its website in 2009.
>
>
> Today's announcement is the result of a collaboration between
> CVS/pharmacy, the American Foundation for the Blind, American  
> Council of
> the Blind and California Council of the Blind.  CVS/pharmacy's actions
> were applauded by these groups.
>
>
> "We are pleased to collaborate with organizations committed to  
> advocacy
> for the blind and introduce service enhancements in our stores and
> online that will increase access for our visually impaired customers,"
> said Helena Foulkes, Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing
> Officer of CVS Caremark.
>
>
> Point-of-Sale Improvements
>
> CVS/pharmacy's point-of-sale improvements are designed to assist
> customers who cannot read information on a flat-screen point-of-sale
> device and therefore cannot privately enter their PIN or other
> confidential information.  All CVS stores have been equipped, at a
> minimum, with a tactile device at both the front check-out counter and
> the pharmacy counter to ensure that customers unable to use a
> flat-screen keypad do not have to provide their PIN to a store  
> employee.
> The company is also training its store employees to provide  
> appropriate
> interaction with visually impaired customers regarding the use of the
> new tactile devices.
>
> "Without tactile keys, blind and visually impaired people have no  
> choice
> but to share their PINs with strangers," explained Melanie Brunson,
> executive director of the American Council of the Blind.  "Today's
> announcement, and the collaboration that led to it, demonstrates
> CVS/pharmacy's ongoing commitment to its blind and visually impaired
> customers."
>
>
> Web Site Access
>
> The initiative includes CVS/pharmacy's commitment to ensure that its
> online pharmacy,  < http://www.cvs.com/
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvs.com/> > www.cvs.com
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvs.com/>  , is accessible to
> persons with a wide range of disabilities, including blind computer
> users who use a screen reader or magnification technology on their
> computers and those who rely on a keyboard instead of a mouse.   
> CVS.com
> will implement these enhancements by the end of 2009.
>
>
> "An accessible web site is crucial if people with vision loss are to
> obtain goods, services and information on an equal footing," said Paul
> Schroeder, vice president, programs and policy group of the American
> Foundation for the Blind.  "We appreciate CVS/pharmacy's commitment to
> ensure that CVS.com is usable by the broadest range of online  
> consumers,
> including those who have disabilities."
>
>
> About CVS/pharmacy
>
> CVS/pharmacy, the retail division of CVS Caremark Corporation (NYSE:
> CVS), is America's largest retail pharmacy with more than 6,900
> CVS/pharmacy and Longs Drugs store locations. CVS/pharmacy is  
> committed
> to improving the lives of those we serve by making innovative and
> high-quality health and pharmacy services safe, affordable and easy to
> access, both in its stores and online at CVS.com. General information
> about CVS/pharmacy and CVS Caremark is available at  <
> http://www.cvscaremark.com/
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvscaremark.com/> > www.cvscaremark.com
> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
> w.cvscaremark.com/> .
>
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 03:47:41 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 20:47:41 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for
	the	VisuallyImpaired To Its
In-Reply-To: <B53B68D6-341D-4C8A-953E-A0AEB45EE74F@gmail.com>
References: <AE893B29F4DF42D790A46626E75384B9@sacomputer>
	<BLU0-SMTP98A625B958095288256098D50C0@phx.gbl>
	<B53B68D6-341D-4C8A-953E-A0AEB45EE74F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090807034741.GX55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>

It's a start.  Now if Target, Walmart, Best Buy, Safeway, and the 
hosts of other stores would make the same moves, we'd be good.

Joseph

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:55:18PM -0400, Corbb O'Connor wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this, Sarah. What great news for all of us! A retail 
> store taking initiative to make touch screens accessible.
>
> Corbb
>
>
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Marty James wrote:
>
> and again, I ask "What about Script Talk if they really want to help the 
> blind?"
> Marty
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" <marrie12 at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:34 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the  
> VisuallyImpaired To Its
>
>
>> For Immediate Release
>>
>>
>> CONTACTS:
>>
>>
>> Mike DeAngelis
>>
>> CVS/pharmacy
>>
>> (401) 770-2645
>>
>>
>> Mitch Pomerantz
>>
>> American Council of the Blind
>>
>> (626) 372-5150
>>
>>
>> Adrianna Montague-Gray
>>
>> American Foundation for the Blind
>>
>> (212) 502-7675
>>
>>
>> CVS/pharmacy Enhancing Accessibility for the Visually Impaired To Its
>> Web Site and Store Point-of-Sales Devices
>>
>> Initiative Announced In Collaboration with State and National
>> Organizations for the Blind
>>
>>
>> WOONSOCKET, R.I., July 30, 2009:  CVS/pharmacy, the nation's largest
>> retail pharmacy, announced today that it is implementing functional
>> improvements to benefit its customers with visual impairments and  
>> other
>> disabilities.  The company has installed tactile keypads in all CVS
>> stores and it will enhance
>> its website in 2009.
>>
>>
>> Today's announcement is the result of a collaboration between
>> CVS/pharmacy, the American Foundation for the Blind, American Council 
>> of
>> the Blind and California Council of the Blind.  CVS/pharmacy's actions
>> were applauded by these groups.
>>
>>
>> "We are pleased to collaborate with organizations committed to  
>> advocacy
>> for the blind and introduce service enhancements in our stores and
>> online that will increase access for our visually impaired customers,"
>> said Helena Foulkes, Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing
>> Officer of CVS Caremark.
>>
>>
>> Point-of-Sale Improvements
>>
>> CVS/pharmacy's point-of-sale improvements are designed to assist
>> customers who cannot read information on a flat-screen point-of-sale
>> device and therefore cannot privately enter their PIN or other
>> confidential information.  All CVS stores have been equipped, at a
>> minimum, with a tactile device at both the front check-out counter and
>> the pharmacy counter to ensure that customers unable to use a
>> flat-screen keypad do not have to provide their PIN to a store  
>> employee.
>> The company is also training its store employees to provide  
>> appropriate
>> interaction with visually impaired customers regarding the use of the
>> new tactile devices.
>>
>> "Without tactile keys, blind and visually impaired people have no  
>> choice
>> but to share their PINs with strangers," explained Melanie Brunson,
>> executive director of the American Council of the Blind.  "Today's
>> announcement, and the collaboration that led to it, demonstrates
>> CVS/pharmacy's ongoing commitment to its blind and visually impaired
>> customers."
>>
>>
>> Web Site Access
>>
>> The initiative includes CVS/pharmacy's commitment to ensure that its
>> online pharmacy,  < http://www.cvs.com/
>> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
>> w.cvs.com/> > www.cvs.com
>> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
>> w.cvs.com/>  , is accessible to
>> persons with a wide range of disabilities, including blind computer
>> users who use a screen reader or magnification technology on their
>> computers and those who rely on a keyboard instead of a mouse.   
>> CVS.com
>> will implement these enhancements by the end of 2009.
>>
>>
>> "An accessible web site is crucial if people with vision loss are to
>> obtain goods, services and information on an equal footing," said Paul
>> Schroeder, vice president, programs and policy group of the American
>> Foundation for the Blind.  "We appreciate CVS/pharmacy's commitment to
>> ensure that CVS.com is usable by the broadest range of online  
>> consumers,
>> including those who have disabilities."
>>
>>
>> About CVS/pharmacy
>>
>> CVS/pharmacy, the retail division of CVS Caremark Corporation (NYSE:
>> CVS), is America's largest retail pharmacy with more than 6,900
>> CVS/pharmacy and Longs Drugs store locations. CVS/pharmacy is  
>> committed
>> to improving the lives of those we serve by making innovative and
>> high-quality health and pharmacy services safe, affordable and easy to
>> access, both in its stores and online at CVS.com. General information
>> about CVS/pharmacy and CVS Caremark is available at  <
>> http://www.cvscaremark.com/
>> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
>> w.cvscaremark.com/> > www.cvscaremark.com
>> <mhtml:{1CB00C23-EFD6-45FF-ACC7-CD53E5BBEFE8}mid://00000006/!x-usc:http://ww
>> w.cvscaremark.com/> .
>>
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From jbahm at pcdesk.net  Fri Aug  7 13:40:14 2009
From: jbahm at pcdesk.net (Joseph C. Lininger)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:40:14 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Election calls?
In-Reply-To: <20090806232745.GR55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
References: <8E9FA77A40FF4600A0D105ACE1A17C70@nbp2.local>
	<20090806232745.GR55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <4A7C2EBE.2010300@pcdesk.net>

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Joseph,

Probably not particularly relevant, but I just had to respond to your
comment. I couldn't resist the bate man, so forgive the tech talk. LOL
I've quoted you below, then responded to your comment.

> Mailman sucks--it
> just sucks less than all of the alternatives.

Mailman actually isn't a bad piece of software in my experience.
However, that damn qrunner model it uses just sucks,
especially in versions before 2.1 or so. It was done that way to reduce
the load Mailman places on a system, but the problem is it results in
things like delayed posts, delayed answering of requests, etc. etc.
etc.. It isn't supposed to delay more than a minute or so, but in my
experience it does. In older versions, the master qrunner process would
sometimes die too, taking the entire listserve down with it. How
irritating. I've noticed newer versions tend to be better about that.

As it happens I figured out two ways to prevent that particular problem.
One of them makes Mailman positively snappy when dealing with requests.
If there are any Mailman users out there who are interested, talk to me
off list and I'll explain how I did it. I guess this isn't the place for it.

I have worked with a couple mailing list managers that do perform better
than Mailman and are a bit more reliable. I found ezmlm and ezmlm-idx to
be higher performing, and couriermlm wasn't bad either though I didn't
work with it much. The trouble is, none of them were as user friendly,
and none had that nice web interface for list owners and moderators that
Mailman has. Also, they aren't MTA agnostic the way Mailman is. ezmlm
and ezmlm-idx work only with qmail, and couriermlm works only with
Courier. That means they're probably not a good choice in most
situations. Personally, I use Mailman with a couple deviations from the
standard setup which get me around its shortcomings.

Alright, stepping down off the soap box now. I'll now assume the role of
quiet list observer once more.
Joe
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From aguimaraes at nbp.org  Fri Aug  7 13:49:37 2009
From: aguimaraes at nbp.org (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
References: <E273A8BA77B24DFBB95FBAA384D27C96@your0d10610b06>
	<20090807011115.GS55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <E687545FC67841CFAF22B1C40BDE262B@nbp2.local>

Joseph,

How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the 
problem.

How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am meeting 
to make sure those things don't happen again?

I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to have 
some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the meeting.

Sincerely,

Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 




From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 17:31:09 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:31:09 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <E687545FC67841CFAF22B1C40BDE262B@nbp2.local>
References: <E273A8BA77B24DFBB95FBAA384D27C96@your0d10610b06>
	<20090807011115.GS55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<E687545FC67841CFAF22B1C40BDE262B@nbp2.local>
Message-ID: <20090807173109.GY55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>

The problem's pretty well established at this point: The election was 
a mess, and we need a way to ensure that registered members vote, and 
that they get the same vote everyone else gets to prevent a screaming 
contest and ensure an accurate count.

I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure that our 
next election is not the embarrassment to the entire Federation that 
I believe our last one to have been.  Of course, it appears that it 
will be held at the one time in a two week span that I simply cannot 
participate.  Rather than discuss a possibility of a time when I 
could, you're trying to start a war against the board.  Good luck 
accomplishing anything that way.

I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it is no 
great loss for me to be excluded.

Increasingly disappointed,
Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the  
> problem.
>
> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am 
> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?
>
> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to 
> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the 
> meeting.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 
>
>
>
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 19:36:49 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:36:49 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
In-Reply-To: <5EF95EDFB3384869ADFCD1B5BC3D8EB2@teal6e6857f643>
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EF95EDFB3384869ADFCD1B5BC3D8EB2@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <409c235c0908071236n450e3d92qf878a4982eb34523@mail.gmail.com>

I think that's awsome!  we all can benifit and have  benifitted from
the mentorship and  example setting  from someone in our lives  that
have brought us to the points that we are at so  far.

On 8/4/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> Ok well hmmm....I have had alot of interesting experiences throughout my
> vision loss. At the kentucky office for the blind McDowell center there are
> 3 or 4members. First I met tonia gatton. After hearing her story and
> accomplishments i commended her in disbelief. Thinking this woman is my
> hero. Then close to a year after i met tonia i was able to meet Mario Island
> who is now assisstant director of the McDowell center and long time member
> of NFB. He to had surpassed many obstacles that left me in aww. And last but
> not least Buffa Hans. Me and Buffa had many negative meetings but
> nevertheless i do admire a woman with that much want and determine to
> succeed. Over time all 3 had always spoke very highly of the NFB and many
> thins available through them and it basically gave me the want to
> investigate.
>
> Through just this list i have had many questions answered and the feeling
> that i am not alone, everyone has similar setbacks, and through another list
> gave me the ability to interact with these people i mentioned above.
>
>         -Teal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:54 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>  i wanted to pose a topic to you all.
>> We all found our way into the NFB/Nabs in some way. My question to
>> you all is how you were introduced into the NFB and what made you stay
>> a part of it?  What person or event  made you think "hey, this is
>> pretty cool"?  And
>> For me, it was  Julie Deden and my then rehab counsolerTony Lewis
>> whogot me to go the the CCB for the summer program. I actually went
>> twice, and each time I was lucky enough to find friendship and  great
>> role models there. I saw what blind people were doing, and for the
>> first time, I was not hesitent  to use my cane, nor did I ever think
>> any differently of other blind folks.  What kept me were the people
>> who kind of have become my mentors, adults I've met in the program who
>> have kept in touch with me even today; years after  the fact.  With
>> what they've showed me, i feel like I should pay that foward.
>>    Thanks
>> Darian
>>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 19:48:43 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:48:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <20090807173109.GY55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <604227BED60E4E51BA5BCCD1A1589DDD@Rufus>

Joseph,

Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule around
your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that people
participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far simpler than
using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the board.  I think
you're a good guy, hence my being so straightforward with you.

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum

The problem's pretty well established at this point: The 
election was a mess, and we need a way to ensure that 
registered members vote, and that they get the same vote 
everyone else gets to prevent a screaming contest and ensure an 
accurate count.

I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure 
that our next election is not the embarrassment to the entire 
Federation that I believe our last one to have been.  Of 
course, it appears that it will be held at the one time in a 
two week span that I simply cannot participate.  Rather than 
discuss a possibility of a time when I could, you're trying to 
start a war against the board.  Good luck accomplishing 
anything that way.

I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it 
is no great loss for me to be excluded.

Increasingly disappointed,
Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the 
> problem.
>
> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am 
> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?
>
> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to 
> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the 
> meeting.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 
>
>
>
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From info at michaelhingson.com  Fri Aug  7 20:44:03 2009
From: info at michaelhingson.com (Michael Hingson)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:44:03 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Free KNFB Reader Mobile Training Available
Message-ID: <auto-000111092314@mailfront1.g2host.com>

LEARNING THE FUNDAMENTALS OF OPERATING THE KNFB READER MOBILE

If you have a KnfbReader Mobile and need some help in perfecting your
operating skills this email is for you.  I sent out an email last week
asking if people would be interested in participating in a teleseminar to
give basic training on how to use the KnfbReader Mobile.  I received many
positive responses.  Most of the emails asked for a seminar by conference
call rather than through a pc conference room.  We are pleased to make this
happen.

On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 at 5PM Pacific time, 6PM Mountain time, 7PM
Central time, and at 8PM Eastern time you are welcome to dial in and
participate in a KnfbReader training session.  Simply call (218) 486-1600.
Then when the system answers dial the access code 881686 followed by #.
Finally, please please announce your name as you enter the conference.

This session is intended more for current users of the system rather than
for people who are interested in buying one and who wish a full product
demonstration.  We will conduct demo conference calls later.  If you wish a
demo and still want to listen into this call you are welcome, but please
realize that we will be dealing with subjects and information relating to
how to use the Reader and not issues relating to simple demonstrations of
the unit.

For current users, this is intended to be a discussion and not a one sided
lecture.  I encourage discussion as there often is not one single way to
handle a problem.  If you have specific questions you wish answered during
the call please feel free to email them to me before the conference.  Please
RSVP if you will be attending.  I look forward to seeing you next Tuesday.


Happy reading,


Mike Hingson

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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 22:00:09 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:00:09 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <604227BED60E4E51BA5BCCD1A1589DDD@Rufus>
References: <20090807173109.GY55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<604227BED60E4E51BA5BCCD1A1589DDD@Rufus>
Message-ID: <20090807220009.GZ55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Joe,

You need to read my message again.  My issue is not with the board, 
it is with Antonio.  I've been TRYING TO STOP people who have the 
stated intention of ripping this organization apart.

I have received little or no support from the organization, who has 
largely blamed me for the controversy's existence.  You people need 
to figure out who does and who doesn't have the best interest of this 
organization in mind.

The time was TENTATIVELY SET because there was supposed to be 
discussion here on the list as to whether or not it could or should 
be moved to accommodate anyone who cannot make it at that time.  But 
it seems that this list would rather take personal swipes at the 
board, at me, and at anyone who actually wants a solution.  Either 
that or just ignore the whole thing.

Ever increasingly disappointed,
Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:48:43PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>Joseph,
>
>Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule around
>your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that people
>participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far simpler than
>using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the board.  I think
>you're a good guy, hence my being so straightforward with you.
>
>Joe Orozco
>
>"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
>crowd."--Max Lucado 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
>
>The problem's pretty well established at this point: The 
>election was a mess, and we need a way to ensure that 
>registered members vote, and that they get the same vote 
>everyone else gets to prevent a screaming contest and ensure an 
>accurate count.
>
>I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure 
>that our next election is not the embarrassment to the entire 
>Federation that I believe our last one to have been.  Of 
>course, it appears that it will be held at the one time in a 
>two week span that I simply cannot participate.  Rather than 
>discuss a possibility of a time when I could, you're trying to 
>start a war against the board.  Good luck accomplishing 
>anything that way.
>
>I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it 
>is no great loss for me to be excluded.
>
>Increasingly disappointed,
>Joseph
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>> Joseph,
>>
>> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the 
>> problem.
>>
>> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am 
>> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?
>>
>> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to 
>> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the 
>> meeting.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 
>>
>>
>>
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From haltaf at carrollu.edu  Fri Aug  7 22:55:59 2009
From: haltaf at carrollu.edu (Hina)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:55:59 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
Message-ID: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>

hi friends,
my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer science major and originally from pakistan.
I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility resources and make  some good friends.

hina.

From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Fri Aug  7 23:22:07 2009
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:22:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
Message-ID: <20090807232207.12380.80376@web3.serotek.com>

Joseph,

That's a great idea. Why not e-mail your suggestion to the list or to 
someone who you would like to speak your suggestion at the conference. 
I imagine that there's a way to make the conference procedings 
available to interested persons after the fact?

Respectfully,
Jedi


Original message:
> Joseph,

> Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule around
> your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that people
> participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far simpler than
> using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the board.  I think
> you're a good guy, hence my being so straightforward with you.

> Joe Orozco

> "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
> crowd."--Max Lucado

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum

> The problem's pretty well established at this point: The
> election was a mess, and we need a way to ensure that
> registered members vote, and that they get the same vote
> everyone else gets to prevent a screaming contest and ensure an
> accurate count.

> I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure
> that our next election is not the embarrassment to the entire
> Federation that I believe our last one to have been.  Of
> course, it appears that it will be held at the one time in a
> two week span that I simply cannot participate.  Rather than
> discuss a possibility of a time when I could, you're trying to
> start a war against the board.  Good luck accomplishing
> anything that way.

> I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it
> is no great loss for me to be excluded.

> Increasingly disappointed,
> Joseph


> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>> Joseph,

>> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the
>> problem.

>> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am
>> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?

>> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to
>> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the
>> meeting.

>> Sincerely,

>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.



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From snowball07 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 23:44:04 2009
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:44:04 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
References: <604227BED60E4E51BA5BCCD1A1589DDD@Rufus>
Message-ID: <C37EF34E91634B98B918B6B4D8C26603@your0d10610b06>

Hello List,

I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the list. I 
have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to see the 
votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting "should be 
held at. This is within reason.
I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph- you might 
be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have been 
missed by you.
I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails, Joseph, to 
move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on the time 
frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could potentially have 
work the next day, or other obligations.
Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I would like to 
say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the actual 
meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call. However, please 
keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired another 
open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the current 
administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone conference, if 
the membership needs it.
So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?
Below was my original email=
******************************
Hello Nabsters,

My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and juggling, 
a time has been tentatively set for the conference call.
The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this upcoming 
Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and discussing 
concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election process.
I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your reference, 
before the meeting. It will be following shortly. I will also be sending out 
daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an 
attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the 
meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will also send 
out a tentative agenda.

If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can also 
decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on everybody's 
concerns about the election process. This will also be open should any of 
you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns and 
thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help the board 
bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.
If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns about the 
conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody there!
The call in information will be released with the agenda of the meeting.

Kindest Regards,

Janice Jeang

Secretary
National Association of Blind Students
www.nabslink.org
cell- 832.769.5082


Kindest Regards, 



From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 23:58:15 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:58:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <20090807220009.GZ55072@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <9387FEBFF0E8484CABDDED4578FE454B@Rufus>

Joseph,

I think your messages would be more easily perceived as attempting to rip
the organization apart than Antonio's post or any other message that has
crossed the list on the subject.  If I did not know you better, it would
seem as though you are trying to hide your disdain for the board behind
claims to rectify a problem you paint in distinctly negative tones.  Were
the elections carried out poorly?  Yes.  Does it reflect bad on the
organization?  On the contrary, it reflects poorly on the president at the
time.  In the grand scheme of things, it is a problem confined to one
evening, one small segment of the overall meeting, and I think Arielle has
gone above and beyond what was necessary to publicly apologize for the
incident.  The fact that the board is setting aside time to allow people to
discuss the issue at all says to me that they are genuinely trying to make
things right.  If you are concerned about the organization's reputation, do
not claim to care about that reputation and simultaneously slap the
organization while you're doing it.  Such behavior makes you look like a
loose canon hypocrite, and I personally have much higher expectations of
you.  We have never minced words when debating one on one in times past, a
large part of my respect for you, so in the interest of that ongoing trend
of candor, either put out your plan so that someone can speak for it on your
behalf or keep your thoughts away from the public forum that is primarily
responsible for the organization's reputation you so passionately want to
protect.  You are a very intelligent, thoughtful member, but do not sit
there and advance the notion that the world will freeze if the board cannot
accommodate your personal schedule when so many others are going to try to
make it.

Respectfully,

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum

Joe,

You need to read my message again.  My issue is not with the 
board, it is with Antonio.  I've been TRYING TO STOP people who 
have the stated intention of ripping this organization apart.

I have received little or no support from the organization, who 
has largely blamed me for the controversy's existence.  You 
people need to figure out who does and who doesn't have the 
best interest of this organization in mind.

The time was TENTATIVELY SET because there was supposed to be 
discussion here on the list as to whether or not it could or 
should be moved to accommodate anyone who cannot make it at 
that time.  But it seems that this list would rather take 
personal swipes at the board, at me, and at anyone who actually 
wants a solution.  Either that or just ignore the whole thing.

Ever increasingly disappointed,
Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:48:43PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>Joseph,
>
>Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule 
>around your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that 
>people participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far 
>simpler than using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the 
>board.  I think you're a good guy, hence my being so 
straightforward with you.
>
>Joe Orozco
>
>"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the 
>crowd."--Max Lucado
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
>
>The problem's pretty well established at this point: The 
election was a 
>mess, and we need a way to ensure that registered members vote, and 
>that they get the same vote everyone else gets to prevent a screaming 
>contest and ensure an accurate count.
>
>I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure that our 
>next election is not the embarrassment to the entire Federation that I 
>believe our last one to have been.  Of course, it appears that it will 
>be held at the one time in a two week span that I simply cannot 
>participate.  Rather than discuss a possibility of a time when 
I could, 
>you're trying to start a war against the board.  Good luck 
>accomplishing anything that way.
>
>I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it is no 
>great loss for me to be excluded.
>
>Increasingly disappointed,
>Joseph
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>> Joseph,
>>
>> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the 
>> problem.
>>
>> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am 
>> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?
>>
>> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but 
expect me to 
>> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the 
>> meeting.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 00:04:40 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Cumbiambera2005)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:04:40 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Free KNFB Reader Mobile Training Available
In-Reply-To: <auto-000111092314@mailfront1.g2host.com>
References: <auto-000111092314@mailfront1.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <4804d1140908071704h1bb71f63v3fef5a1cbcbcbd62@mail.gmail.com>

Where are you supposed to RSVP for this call? This sounds like
something I would be interested in.

On 8/7/09, Michael Hingson <info at michaelhingson.com> wrote:
> LEARNING THE FUNDAMENTALS OF OPERATING THE KNFB READER MOBILE
>
> If you have a KnfbReader Mobile and need some help in perfecting your
> operating skills this email is for you.  I sent out an email last week
> asking if people would be interested in participating in a teleseminar to
> give basic training on how to use the KnfbReader Mobile.  I received many
> positive responses.  Most of the emails asked for a seminar by conference
> call rather than through a pc conference room.  We are pleased to make this
> happen.
>
> On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 at 5PM Pacific time, 6PM Mountain time, 7PM
> Central time, and at 8PM Eastern time you are welcome to dial in and
> participate in a KnfbReader training session.  Simply call (218) 486-1600.
> Then when the system answers dial the access code 881686 followed by #.
> Finally, please please announce your name as you enter the conference.
>
> This session is intended more for current users of the system rather than
> for people who are interested in buying one and who wish a full product
> demonstration.  We will conduct demo conference calls later.  If you wish a
> demo and still want to listen into this call you are welcome, but please
> realize that we will be dealing with subjects and information relating to
> how to use the Reader and not issues relating to simple demonstrations of
> the unit.
>
> For current users, this is intended to be a discussion and not a one sided
> lecture.  I encourage discussion as there often is not one single way to
> handle a problem.  If you have specific questions you wish answered during
> the call please feel free to email them to me before the conference.  Please
> RSVP if you will be attending.  I look forward to seeing you next Tuesday.
>
>
> Happy reading,
>
>
> Mike Hingson
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From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Sat Aug  8 00:06:39 2009
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:06:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
Message-ID: <20090808000639.13460.24050@web3.serotek.com>

Joseph and List:

Personally, I think we can find a much better way of communicating with 
each other than what's been going on. No one is purposefully swiping at 
anyone and as far as I'm concerned, there's no good reason for people 
to get any more upset over this issue. No one has any reason or will to 
rip this organization apart. Sure, people are frustrated with this 
year's elections, but I think that's really it.

As to the conference call itself, there is nothing wrong with taking a 
closer look at the election that took place as a template and 
discussion point for where we can go. However, this tit for tat stuff 
has to stop. No one is hiding anything, trying to shut anyone down, or 
otherwise willfully acting in a way unbecoming of federationists.

In short, I suggest we knock this crap off and start acting like 
adults. Yes, there is supposed to be some discussion of when the 
meeting is to take place. If however, no time works for you (whomever 
is reading this), that's not our fault simply because we are trying to 
accommodate everyone the best we can. I'm sorry if we can't accommodate 
everyone exactly this time around. That's just life. However, I don't 
see why a secondary focus group can't be had if there are enough people 
who can't attend this one.

Respectfully,
Jedi
Original message:
> Joe,

> You need to read my message again.  My issue is not with the board,
> it is with Antonio.  I've been TRYING TO STOP people who have the
> stated intention of ripping this organization apart.

> I have received little or no support from the organization, who has
> largely blamed me for the controversy's existence.  You people need
> to figure out who does and who doesn't have the best interest of this
> organization in mind.

> The time was TENTATIVELY SET because there was supposed to be
> discussion here on the list as to whether or not it could or should
> be moved to accommodate anyone who cannot make it at that time.  But
> it seems that this list would rather take personal swipes at the
> board, at me, and at anyone who actually wants a solution.  Either
> that or just ignore the whole thing.

> Ever increasingly disappointed,
> Joseph


> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:48:43PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>> Joseph,

>> Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule around
>> your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that people
>> participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far simpler than
>> using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the board.  I think
>> you're a good guy, hence my being so straightforward with you.

>> Joe Orozco

>> "A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
>> crowd."--Max Lucado

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum

>> The problem's pretty well established at this point: The
>> election was a mess, and we need a way to ensure that
>> registered members vote, and that they get the same vote
>> everyone else gets to prevent a screaming contest and ensure an
>> accurate count.

>> I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure
>> that our next election is not the embarrassment to the entire
>> Federation that I believe our last one to have been.  Of
>> course, it appears that it will be held at the one time in a
>> two week span that I simply cannot participate.  Rather than
>> discuss a possibility of a time when I could, you're trying to
>> start a war against the board.  Good luck accomplishing
>> anything that way.

>> I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it
>> is no great loss for me to be excluded.

>> Increasingly disappointed,
>> Joseph


>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>>> Joseph,

>>> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the
>>> problem.

>>> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am
>>> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?

>>> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to
>>> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the
>>> meeting.

>>> Sincerely,

>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.



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From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Sat Aug  8 00:33:42 2009
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:33:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
Message-ID: <20090808003342.14162.85198@web3.serotek.com>

8:30 is fine for me.

Respectfully Submitted
Original message:
> Hello List,

> I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the list. I
> have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
> I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to see the
> votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting "should be
> held at. This is within reason.
> I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph- you might
> be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have been
> missed by you.
> I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails, Joseph, to
> move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on the time
> frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could potentially have
> work the next day, or other obligations.
> Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I would like to
> say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the actual
> meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
> I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call. However, please
> keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired another
> open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the current
> administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone conference, if
> the membership needs it.
> So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?
> Below was my original email=
> ******************************
> Hello Nabsters,

> My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and juggling,
> a time has been tentatively set for the conference call.
> The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this upcoming
> Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and discussing
> concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election process.
> I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your reference,
> before the meeting. It will be following shortly. I will also be sending out
> daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an
> attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the
> meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will also send
> out a tentative agenda.

> If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can also
> decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on everybody's
> concerns about the election process. This will also be open should any of
> you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns and
> thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help the board
> bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.
> If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns about the
> conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
> janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody there!
> The call in information will be released with the agenda of the meeting.

> Kindest Regards,

> Janice Jeang

> Secretary
> National Association of Blind Students
> www.nabslink.org
> cell- 832.769.5082


> Kindest Regards,


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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 02:24:12 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:24:12 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <C37EF34E91634B98B918B6B4D8C26603@your0d10610b06>
References: <604227BED60E4E51BA5BCCD1A1589DDD@Rufus>
	<C37EF34E91634B98B918B6B4D8C26603@your0d10610b06>
Message-ID: <20090808022411.GD69523@yumi.bluecherry.net>

8:30 should work--I may miss 5-10 minutes.  I'm open to later or 
earlier as well.

Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:44:04PM -0500, Janice wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the list. I 
> have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
> I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to see the  
> votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting "should 
> be held at. This is within reason.
> I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph- you 
> might be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have 
> been missed by you.
> I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails, Joseph, 
> to move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on the 
> time frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could potentially 
> have work the next day, or other obligations.
> Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I would like 
> to say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the 
> actual meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
> I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call. However, 
> please keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired 
> another open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the 
> current administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone 
> conference, if the membership needs it.
> So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?


From minesm at me.com  Sat Aug  8 04:35:52 2009
From: minesm at me.com (Maurice Mines)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:35:52 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <20090808003342.14162.85198@web3.serotek.com>
References: <20090808003342.14162.85198@web3.serotek.com>
Message-ID: <B6E1027B-6C22-4CEE-88A0-14F3CDB02753@me.com>

8:30edt is ok for me. have a goodone. maurice ham call kd0iko.
On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Jedi wrote:

> 8:30 is fine for me.
>
> Respectfully Submitted
> Original message:
>> Hello List,
>
>> I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the  
>> list. I
>> have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
>> I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to  
>> see the
>> votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting  
>> "should be
>> held at. This is within reason.
>> I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph-  
>> you might
>> be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have  
>> been
>> missed by you.
>> I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails,  
>> Joseph, to
>> move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on  
>> the time
>> frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could  
>> potentially have
>> work the next day, or other obligations.
>> Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I  
>> would like to
>> say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the  
>> actual
>> meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
>> I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call.  
>> However, please
>> keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired  
>> another
>> open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the current
>> administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone  
>> conference, if
>> the membership needs it.
>> So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?
>> Below was my original email=
>> ******************************
>> Hello Nabsters,
>
>> My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and  
>> juggling,
>> a time has been tentatively set for the conference call.
>> The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this  
>> upcoming
>> Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and  
>> discussing
>> concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election  
>> process.
>> I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your  
>> reference,
>> before the meeting. It will be following shortly. I will also be  
>> sending out
>> daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an
>> attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the
>> meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will  
>> also send
>> out a tentative agenda.
>
>> If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can  
>> also
>> decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on  
>> everybody's
>> concerns about the election process. This will also be open should  
>> any of
>> you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns  
>> and
>> thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help  
>> the board
>> bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.
>> If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns  
>> about the
>> conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
>> janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody  
>> there!
>> The call in information will be released with the agenda of the  
>> meeting.
>
>> Kindest Regards,
>
>> Janice Jeang
>
>> Secretary
>> National Association of Blind Students
>> www.nabslink.org
>> cell- 832.769.5082
>
>
>> Kindest Regards,
>
>
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From merisa.musemic at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 14:55:57 2009
From: merisa.musemic at gmail.com (Merisa Musemic)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:55:57 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
In-Reply-To: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>
References: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>
Message-ID: <df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hi  Hina! My name is Merisa Musemic. I'm originally from Bosnia. I'm
currently working on my master's in rehabilitation counseling at Wayne
State University.
Welcome to the list!
Merisa

On 8/7/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
> hi friends,
> my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer
> science major and originally from pakistan.
> I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility
> resources and make  some good friends.
>
> hina.
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From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 15:19:00 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:19:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
In-Reply-To: <df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>
	<df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908080819v5ac78fa9ped91a0da42bbb458@mail.gmail.com>

>From Pakistan?  Cool.  There needs to be a lot more done there for the
blind, women, and the poor.  What part of the country are you
originally from?  How long have you been blind?  Oh, btw, I'm Beth
Tauras, Florida State University student majoring in choral music
education.  Someday, I want to make a bunch of high school kids sing a
German requiem, some bunch of songs written for the dead.  Well, just
an exaggeration.  Hope you have fun on the list.
Beth

On 8/8/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi  Hina! My name is Merisa Musemic. I'm originally from Bosnia. I'm
> currently working on my master's in rehabilitation counseling at Wayne
> State University.
> Welcome to the list!
> Merisa
>
> On 8/7/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
>> hi friends,
>> my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer
>> science major and originally from pakistan.
>> I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility
>> resources and make  some good friends.
>>
>> hina.
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From passionflower505 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  8 17:37:10 2009
From: passionflower505 at yahoo.com (Cindy Bennett)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] ENV3
Message-ID: <584283.78818.qm@web65602.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>


Does anyone know about the accessibility of the ENV3? I am assuming that it is probably about the same as the ENV2, but i was curious if anyone knew whether it is any different.

I find it disconcerting that now the purchase of all smart phones requires the monthly add on of internet fees when these are the only phones blind people can make completely accessible to them. If anyone knows of any other verizon phones that would be more accessible than the ENV phones that are not new smart phones, please let me know.

For some reason, i haven't been receiving all of the emails that come through the list, i have tried unsubscribing and subscribing again, so emailing me personally with information might work better.

Thanks

Cindy


      


From haltaf at carrollu.edu  Sat Aug  8 19:09:45 2009
From: haltaf at carrollu.edu (Hina)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:09:45 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
References: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>
	<df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24B024D8C53E40D8B410001C413C3A8B@DB8D43F1>

hi merisa,
thanks for welcoming me to this list.
if you don't mind, how long have you been here and what do you like to do 
in your free time? i never had any friend from  Bosnia before, so i would 
love to learn about your country.
hina.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merisa Musemic" <merisa.musemic at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] blind international student


> Hi  Hina! My name is Merisa Musemic. I'm originally from Bosnia. I'm
> currently working on my master's in rehabilitation counseling at Wayne
> State University.
> Welcome to the list!
> Merisa
>
> On 8/7/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
>> hi friends,
>> my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer
>> science major and originally from pakistan.
>> I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility
>> resources and make  some good friends.
>>
>> hina.
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From haltaf at carrollu.edu  Sat Aug  8 19:12:57 2009
From: haltaf at carrollu.edu (Hina)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:12:57 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
References: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1><df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<4383d01d0908080819v5ac78fa9ped91a0da42bbb458@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F897595908394211B48E6F06F76E54DD@DB8D43F1>

hi beth,
yes, true in pakistan we need a lot to do  but unfortunately there is no 
organization and no organize group work to help blind people voice their 
oppinion. I am originally from rawalpindi which is a  twin city  with the 
capital city islamabad.
i am blind since birth. what kind of music are you interested in? how is 
life in florida? i heard its hot there. i am in wisconsin and i think 
florida weather might be closer to pakistan weather.
hina.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] blind international student


> >From Pakistan?  Cool.  There needs to be a lot more done there for the
> blind, women, and the poor.  What part of the country are you
> originally from?  How long have you been blind?  Oh, btw, I'm Beth
> Tauras, Florida State University student majoring in choral music
> education.  Someday, I want to make a bunch of high school kids sing a
> German requiem, some bunch of songs written for the dead.  Well, just
> an exaggeration.  Hope you have fun on the list.
> Beth
>
> On 8/8/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi  Hina! My name is Merisa Musemic. I'm originally from Bosnia. I'm
>> currently working on my master's in rehabilitation counseling at Wayne
>> State University.
>> Welcome to the list!
>> Merisa
>>
>> On 8/7/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
>>> hi friends,
>>> my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer
>>> science major and originally from pakistan.
>>> I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility
>>> resources and make  some good friends.
>>>
>>> hina.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/merisa.musemic%40gmail.com
>>>
>>
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>>
>
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From haltaf at carrollu.edu  Sat Aug  8 19:16:33 2009
From: haltaf at carrollu.edu (Hina)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:16:33 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] new discussion group
Message-ID: <9176130A52074FACB6923958F1D9E000@DB8D43F1>

Dear friends,

It is our pleasure to inform you that NFB now hosts an email
discussion group called Blind International Students.

But don't let the name fool you, this group is much more than that.
It is an online community of blind and visually impaired individuals
who are either currently or were previously studying as international
students or immigrant students in the United States, as well as anyone
interested in learning more about their cultures and experiences.

Please visit and forward this webpage to those who might be interested:
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-international-students_nfbnet.org

Like you, these immigrants and international students are also
changing what it means to be blind.  Many of them defy what others say
is impossible, and came on their own to America to study in and
contribute to the fields of math, sciences, engineering, economics and
other disciplines.

We hope this email group can serve both as a gateway to bring more of
these individuals into NFB, and serve as a platform for them to meet
and support one another.  On the fun side, we will also organize
online tournaments and online fantasy World Cup to build friendships.
Your creative and fun suggestions are also certainly most welcome!

To make it happen, we need your support.  Please kindly forward this
message to those in your state NFB organization who might be
interested in joining, and inform your university's disability office
about this mailing list.

Thank you very much for your strong support.  Hope to see you there!

Best regards,

Hina Altaf (Wisconsin) and Philip So (New Jersey / New York)

Feel free to contact us at:
Philip So (pcs2001 at columbia.edu)
Hina Altaf (
hinaaltaf1983 at gmail.com
or:
haltaf at carrollu.edu

From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Sat Aug  8 19:43:49 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:43:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] blind international student
In-Reply-To: <F897595908394211B48E6F06F76E54DD@DB8D43F1>
References: <D3CF299EB4334863BAA6D992867FA8E3@DB8D43F1>
	<df5bac6d0908080755p68fe5dd1x618d2e0b3dc520ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<4383d01d0908080819v5ac78fa9ped91a0da42bbb458@mail.gmail.com>
	<F897595908394211B48E6F06F76E54DD@DB8D43F1>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908081243l19ca3ed3r1a3ea000394db897@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I'm interested in any music but rap and heavy metal, and Florida
weather is indeed hot, especially Tallahassee.  Florida State
University is notorious for having gnats everywhere in the summertime.
 I know for a fact.  Whoops, gotta go.
Beth

On 8/8/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
> hi beth,
> yes, true in pakistan we need a lot to do  but unfortunately there is no
> organization and no organize group work to help blind people voice their
> oppinion. I am originally from rawalpindi which is a  twin city  with the
> capital city islamabad.
> i am blind since birth. what kind of music are you interested in? how is
> life in florida? i heard its hot there. i am in wisconsin and i think
> florida weather might be closer to pakistan weather.
> hina.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] blind international student
>
>
>> >From Pakistan?  Cool.  There needs to be a lot more done there for the
>> blind, women, and the poor.  What part of the country are you
>> originally from?  How long have you been blind?  Oh, btw, I'm Beth
>> Tauras, Florida State University student majoring in choral music
>> education.  Someday, I want to make a bunch of high school kids sing a
>> German requiem, some bunch of songs written for the dead.  Well, just
>> an exaggeration.  Hope you have fun on the list.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 8/8/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi  Hina! My name is Merisa Musemic. I'm originally from Bosnia. I'm
>>> currently working on my master's in rehabilitation counseling at Wayne
>>> State University.
>>> Welcome to the list!
>>> Merisa
>>>
>>> On 8/7/09, Hina <haltaf at carrollu.edu> wrote:
>>>> hi friends,
>>>> my name is hina altaf and i am a new member in this list. I am computer
>>>> science major and originally from pakistan.
>>>> I am here to meet new people and learn about different accessibility
>>>> resources and make  some good friends.
>>>>
>>>> hina.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/merisa.musemic%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
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>


From oceanrls at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  9 20:57:57 2009
From: oceanrls at hotmail.com (Rachel Jacobs)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:57:57 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] brand new KNFB phhone for sale
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP33D63F6819B7D1BF57085AC4080@phx.gbl>

Hello. I am selling a brand new KNFB phone. It also has the software for the phone, but does not have talks. I am asking 1100 dollars. I was one of the scholarship winners who won this phone, but would rather purchase something else that would better assist me. If you are interested, please contact me off list at 
oceanrls at hotmail.com
If you would like to put in a different offer please due so.
Thanks,
Rachel Jacobs

From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 02:40:21 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:40:21 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <B6E1027B-6C22-4CEE-88A0-14F3CDB02753@me.com>
References: <20090808003342.14162.85198@web3.serotek.com>
	<B6E1027B-6C22-4CEE-88A0-14F3CDB02753@me.com>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908081940p770237a1j89f32edd7fe1d9c3@mail.gmail.com>

Dear listers,

	The main objective of this first conference call is to set up a
mutually agreeable ongoing forum (i.e. a blog or website) where the
membership can give us feedback on aspects of the election process
that we might want to change for future elections. No binding
decisions will be made tomorrow night; we are simply identifying
aspects of the election process that might benefit from revisions,
possible revisions that the membership can deliberate about, and a
venue in which the members can express their views. Once all the
alternative changes to election procedure have been discussed, the
board will review the membership’s feedback and decide which changes
to implement. These decisions probably won’t be made until next
spring.

	In a few minutes I will send out a separate email detailing how I
plan to run the elections next year. This outline is based on our
current constitution as well as protocols that are traditionally
followed by NFB divisions and affiliates, and which NABS has typically
followed in the past. I will also reiterate this election procedure on
the conference call. If you see points in this outline that you feel
could benefit from changes, please bring those suggestions to the
conference call.

	Finally, I feel the need to say a word about respect and decorum. The
NABS board is opening up a forum for dialogue about the election
procedures because we trust in the membership’s ability to carry on
positive, productive discussions. However, these discussions will not
be productive or positive unless we all refrain from accusations,
conspiracy theories and personal attacks. The NFB has been a strong
and decisive organization in part because of our practice of treating
each other and people outside the organization with respect. Dr.
Maurer always requires us to behave courteously at national
conventions even with speakers who might have opinions differing from
those held by the NFB. On the NABS list, personal attacks against
specific individuals are not allowed. Publicly accusing a specific
individual or group of people of “ripping the organization apart” on
the list is not acceptable and does nothing to advance us toward any
kind of resolution. If you feel that someone’s behavior is truly out
of line, you can express your concerns to me, Dave Andrews, or Jedi
Moerke, the listserv chair, but there is no need to call that person
out on-list.

	Lately there has been some talk of our organization’s reputation,
integrity, etc. I would encourage any of you who are concerned about
these things to examine your own behavior and ensure that you are
serving as good representatives of our organization in your writing,
and that you are focused on bringing about positive change for NABS
rather than discrediting individuals that you believe might be
threatening our integrity. I would also encourage you to join us in
making NABS better not just with the elections but also by
volunteering on committees and projects and working on growing the
student division in your own state. Finally, remember that we aren’t
just a stand-alone student organization. We are part of the National
Federation of the Blind, which is nearly seventy years old and fifty
thousand members strong. NABS has been around for forty-two years and
has stood the test of time and had its share of disagreements and
controversies. If we can all muster the self-control to debate
respectfully, I believe we have nothing to fear and much to gain from
this.

Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students


On 8/8/09, Maurice Mines <minesm at me.com> wrote:
> 8:30edt is ok for me. have a goodone. maurice ham call kd0iko.
> On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Jedi wrote:
>
>> 8:30 is fine for me.
>>
>> Respectfully Submitted
>> Original message:
>>> Hello List,
>>
>>> I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the
>>> list. I
>>> have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
>>> I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to
>>> see the
>>> votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting
>>> "should be
>>> held at. This is within reason.
>>> I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph-
>>> you might
>>> be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have
>>> been
>>> missed by you.
>>> I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails,
>>> Joseph, to
>>> move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on
>>> the time
>>> frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could
>>> potentially have
>>> work the next day, or other obligations.
>>> Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I
>>> would like to
>>> say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the
>>> actual
>>> meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
>>> I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call.
>>> However, please
>>> keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired
>>> another
>>> open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the current
>>> administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone
>>> conference, if
>>> the membership needs it.
>>> So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?
>>> Below was my original email=
>>> ******************************
>>> Hello Nabsters,
>>
>>> My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and
>>> juggling,
>>> a time has been tentatively set for the conference call.
>>> The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this
>>> upcoming
>>> Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and
>>> discussing
>>> concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election
>>> process.
>>> I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your
>>> reference,
>>> before the meeting. It will be following shortly. I will also be
>>> sending out
>>> daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an
>>> attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the
>>> meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will
>>> also send
>>> out a tentative agenda.
>>
>>> If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can
>>> also
>>> decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on
>>> everybody's
>>> concerns about the election process. This will also be open should
>>> any of
>>> you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns
>>> and
>>> thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help
>>> the board
>>> bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.
>>> If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns
>>> about the
>>> conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
>>> janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody
>>> there!
>>> The call in information will be released with the agenda of the
>>> meeting.
>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>
>>> Janice Jeang
>>
>>> Secretary
>>> National Association of Blind Students
>>> www.nabslink.org
>>> cell- 832.769.5082
>>
>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>
>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> for nabs-l:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/loneblindjedi%40samobile.net
>>
>> --
>> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network.  Visit
>> www.serotek.com
>>  to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>> for nabs-l:
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>> %40me.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>


-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 02:44:13 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:44:13 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
In-Reply-To: <85ff10070908081940p770237a1j89f32edd7fe1d9c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090808003342.14162.85198@web3.serotek.com>
	<B6E1027B-6C22-4CEE-88A0-14F3CDB02753@me.com>
	<85ff10070908081940p770237a1j89f32edd7fe1d9c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908081944p699815e0m350e340a3040053f@mail.gmail.com>

The call will be at 8:30 p.m. EDT.

Arielle

On 8/9/09, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear listers,
>
> 	The main objective of this first conference call is to set up a
> mutually agreeable ongoing forum (i.e. a blog or website) where the
> membership can give us feedback on aspects of the election process
> that we might want to change for future elections. No binding
> decisions will be made tomorrow night; we are simply identifying
> aspects of the election process that might benefit from revisions,
> possible revisions that the membership can deliberate about, and a
> venue in which the members can express their views. Once all the
> alternative changes to election procedure have been discussed, the
> board will review the membership’s feedback and decide which changes
> to implement. These decisions probably won’t be made until next
> spring.
>
> 	In a few minutes I will send out a separate email detailing how I
> plan to run the elections next year. This outline is based on our
> current constitution as well as protocols that are traditionally
> followed by NFB divisions and affiliates, and which NABS has typically
> followed in the past. I will also reiterate this election procedure on
> the conference call. If you see points in this outline that you feel
> could benefit from changes, please bring those suggestions to the
> conference call.
>
> 	Finally, I feel the need to say a word about respect and decorum. The
> NABS board is opening up a forum for dialogue about the election
> procedures because we trust in the membership’s ability to carry on
> positive, productive discussions. However, these discussions will not
> be productive or positive unless we all refrain from accusations,
> conspiracy theories and personal attacks. The NFB has been a strong
> and decisive organization in part because of our practice of treating
> each other and people outside the organization with respect. Dr.
> Maurer always requires us to behave courteously at national
> conventions even with speakers who might have opinions differing from
> those held by the NFB. On the NABS list, personal attacks against
> specific individuals are not allowed. Publicly accusing a specific
> individual or group of people of “ripping the organization apart” on
> the list is not acceptable and does nothing to advance us toward any
> kind of resolution. If you feel that someone’s behavior is truly out
> of line, you can express your concerns to me, Dave Andrews, or Jedi
> Moerke, the listserv chair, but there is no need to call that person
> out on-list.
>
> 	Lately there has been some talk of our organization’s reputation,
> integrity, etc. I would encourage any of you who are concerned about
> these things to examine your own behavior and ensure that you are
> serving as good representatives of our organization in your writing,
> and that you are focused on bringing about positive change for NABS
> rather than discrediting individuals that you believe might be
> threatening our integrity. I would also encourage you to join us in
> making NABS better not just with the elections but also by
> volunteering on committees and projects and working on growing the
> student division in your own state. Finally, remember that we aren’t
> just a stand-alone student organization. We are part of the National
> Federation of the Blind, which is nearly seventy years old and fifty
> thousand members strong. NABS has been around for forty-two years and
> has stood the test of time and had its share of disagreements and
> controversies. If we can all muster the self-control to debate
> respectfully, I believe we have nothing to fear and much to gain from
> this.
>
> Arielle Silverman
> President, National Association of Blind Students
>
>
> On 8/8/09, Maurice Mines <minesm at me.com> wrote:
>> 8:30edt is ok for me. have a goodone. maurice ham call kd0iko.
>> On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Jedi wrote:
>>
>>> 8:30 is fine for me.
>>>
>>> Respectfully Submitted
>>> Original message:
>>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>>> I am not sure why my previous post did not seem to make it to the
>>>> list. I
>>>> have copied it below to try to make sure the list got it...
>>>> I am willing to be flexible to move the meeting. I would like to
>>>> see the
>>>> votes from the membership about when you guys think the meeting
>>>> "should be
>>>> held at. This is within reason.
>>>> I think that 8: 30 PM EST, is a good time, and this way, Joseph-
>>>> you might
>>>> be a little bit late, but nothing too potentially major would have
>>>> been
>>>> missed by you.
>>>> I am also game, like you and I had discussed in previous emails,
>>>> Joseph, to
>>>> move it to 9 pm. EST. However, do understand that it cuts down on
>>>> the time
>>>> frame for this call. Since some  of us at the call could
>>>> potentially have
>>>> work the next day, or other obligations.
>>>> Membership, when thinking about a potentially "better" time, I
>>>> would like to
>>>> say that neither I, nor you guys are looking for a repeat of the
>>>> actual
>>>> meeting itself, in which we run WAY over time...
>>>> I do sincerely wish to accommodate everybody for this call.
>>>> However, please
>>>> keep in mind that this is the first of the discussions. If desired
>>>> another
>>>> open forum area will be created by myself, on behalf of the current
>>>> administration, to continue the discussion beyond the phone
>>>> conference, if
>>>> the membership needs it.
>>>> So, what say you Nabsters? 8:30 PM. EST? or later?
>>>> Below was my original email=
>>>> ******************************
>>>> Hello Nabsters,
>>>
>>>> My sincerest apologies. However, after much schedule tweaking and
>>>> juggling,
>>>> a time has been tentatively set for the conference call.
>>>> The call is scheduled for the 9th of August, at 8 pm. EST. So, this
>>>> upcoming
>>>> Sunday, at 8 pm. EST, I look forward to meeting with you guys and
>>>> discussing
>>>> concerns, suggested improvements, etc... to the NABS election
>>>> process.
>>>> I will be attaching a copy of the NABS constitution- for your
>>>> reference,
>>>> before the meeting. It will be following shortly. I will also be
>>>> sending out
>>>> daily reminders, just in case someone should miss this message. In an
>>>> attempt to give everybody a rough idea of what can be expected at the
>>>> meeting, and to bring a little bit of flow to the meeting, I will
>>>> also send
>>>> out a tentative agenda.
>>>
>>>> If further discussions are needed/ wanted on the subject... we can
>>>> also
>>>> decide on another venue, specifically dedicated to discussion on
>>>> everybody's
>>>> concerns about the election process. This will also be open should
>>>> any of
>>>> you miss the conference call. we really value everybody's concerns
>>>> and
>>>> thoughts on this subject. I hope that this will continue to help
>>>> the board
>>>> bring more transparency and provide a voice to you the student.
>>>> If you should need to contact me for any reason, have any concerns
>>>> about the
>>>> conference call, etc... please feel free to email-
>>>> janice.jeang at gmail.com or call- 832.769.5082. Hope to see everybody
>>>> there!
>>>> The call in information will be released with the agenda of the
>>>> meeting.
>>>
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>> Janice Jeang
>>>
>>>> Secretary
>>>> National Association of Blind Students
>>>> www.nabslink.org
>>>> cell- 832.769.5082
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for nabs-l:
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/loneblindjedi%40samobile.net
>>>
>>> --
>>> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network.  Visit
>>> www.serotek.com
>>>  to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> --
> Arielle Silverman
> President, National Association of Blind Students
> Phone:  602-502-2255
> Email:
> nabs.president at gmail.com
> Website:
> www.nabslink.org
>


-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 03:02:42 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:02:42 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Procedures
Message-ID: <85ff10070908082002u3e3a6195k4b9c6c3ad8ea8a03@mail.gmail.com>

If you'd like to see any of these changed, please tell us on the
conference call or let someone know who will be on the call.

NABS Election Procedures

	The below assumes that we do not have a nominating committee. If NABS
decides to appoint a nominating committee, then a nominating committee
report will be added to the beginning of the election process.

For each elected position, I will announce the position and then ask
for nominations from the floor. I will ask for nominations three times
and then request a motion and a second to close nominations. If only
one candidate is nominated, then that candidate will be elected by
acclamation.

	If more than one candidate is nominated, then each candidate will be
given thirty seconds to speak to the membership. Candidates will speak
in the reverse order in which they were nominated. So if the
nominations were John-Cindy-Karen, the speeches would go
Karen-Cindy-John.

	Following speeches, a voice vote will be taken. If one candidate
receives all or nearly all of the “I” votes, then I will declare that
person the winner and ask if any of the other candidates want an exact
count. If not, then the candidate garnering the majority of the voice
votes will win. If the voice vote is inconclusive (as almost always
happens) or if the candidate(s) declared losers of the voice vote
request a count, then a count will be taken.

	The procedure for determining an exact vote count has not yet been
determined—will be decided by the NABS board this year with feedback
from the membership. All persons recruited to help count votes will be
recruited and trained prior to the election, and back-up vote counters
will be recruited in case the original counters cannot stay for the
duration of the election.

	If one candidate receives more than half (50%) of the total votes,
that person will be declared the winner. If not, then the candidate
receiving the least amount of votes will be dropped and a recount will
be conducted. This will continue until one candidate has received more
than half of the total votes. All voting will proceed in the same
order as speeches (so in the above example, Karen-Cindy-John).

	If at any point during the elections any member believes that proper
procedures are not being followed, counters are not reporting
accurately, etc. that member should come to the podium and get my
attention during a count so that I can be aware of and address the
problem immediately. Alternatively, any member can interrupt the
election process by saying, “Madame President, point of order” and
that person will be given the floor. The “point of order” request
overrides any ruling I might have made about moving on to the next
election.


-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 09:40:13 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:40:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Procedures
In-Reply-To: <85ff10070908082002u3e3a6195k4b9c6c3ad8ea8a03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <85ff10070908082002u3e3a6195k4b9c6c3ad8ea8a03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090809042912.GH69523@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Arielle,

If order can be maintained for the election, this seems fine.  The 
problem is that NABS voice votes appear to happen more the, "All in 
favor, please scream now," as opposed to the, "All in favor, please 
say 'Aye'," that is actually requested.

I think the only solution to that, if we want to maintain the 
convenience of a voice vote, is to immediately re-vote if there were 
people screaming their choice.  It shouldn't be up to any candidate 
to "be the bad guy" and insist on a count at that point, there should 
either just be another voice vote or move directly to a count.

I suspect the first time a vote is retaken because of the screaming, 
it'll stop.  This could establish the tradition of throwing out the 
first vote of the NABS meeting every year, but hopefully not.

Just a suggestion,

Joseph


On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 01:02:42PM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>If you'd like to see any of these changed, please tell us on the
>conference call or let someone know who will be on the call.
>
>NABS Election Procedures
>
>	The below assumes that we do not have a nominating committee. If NABS
>decides to appoint a nominating committee, then a nominating committee
>report will be added to the beginning of the election process.
>
>For each elected position, I will announce the position and then ask
>for nominations from the floor. I will ask for nominations three times
>and then request a motion and a second to close nominations. If only
>one candidate is nominated, then that candidate will be elected by
>acclamation.
>
>	If more than one candidate is nominated, then each candidate will be
>given thirty seconds to speak to the membership. Candidates will speak
>in the reverse order in which they were nominated. So if the
>nominations were John-Cindy-Karen, the speeches would go
>Karen-Cindy-John.
>
>	Following speeches, a voice vote will be taken. If one candidate
>receives all or nearly all of the “I” votes, then I will declare that
>person the winner and ask if any of the other candidates want an exact
>count. If not, then the candidate garnering the majority of the voice
>votes will win. If the voice vote is inconclusive (as almost always
>happens) or if the candidate(s) declared losers of the voice vote
>request a count, then a count will be taken.
>
>	The procedure for determining an exact vote count has not yet been
>determined—will be decided by the NABS board this year with feedback
>from the membership. All persons recruited to help count votes will be
>recruited and trained prior to the election, and back-up vote counters
>will be recruited in case the original counters cannot stay for the
>duration of the election.
>
>	If one candidate receives more than half (50%) of the total votes,
>that person will be declared the winner. If not, then the candidate
>receiving the least amount of votes will be dropped and a recount will
>be conducted. This will continue until one candidate has received more
>than half of the total votes. All voting will proceed in the same
>order as speeches (so in the above example, Karen-Cindy-John).
>
>	If at any point during the elections any member believes that proper
>procedures are not being followed, counters are not reporting
>accurately, etc. that member should come to the podium and get my
>attention during a count so that I can be aware of and address the
>problem immediately. Alternatively, any member can interrupt the
>election process by saying, “Madame President, point of order” and
>that person will be given the floor. The “point of order” request
>overrides any ruling I might have made about moving on to the next
>election.
>
>
>-- 
>Arielle Silverman
>President, National Association of Blind Students
>Phone:  602-502-2255
>Email:
>nabs.president at gmail.com
>Website:
>www.nabslink.org


From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Sun Aug  9 11:02:43 2009
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:02:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Procedures
Message-ID: <20090809110243.11025.28627@web2.serotek.com>

Joseph and List:

It has been my position that what we need at NABS is good old fashioned 
maturity. I agree with Joseph that screaming for voice votes is both 
confusing and wholely unnecessary. We could certainly throw out votes 
where one portion of the population is trying to overpower another by 
sheer volume alone, but it's also up to the membership to remember that 
we are all adults or nearly so and that we ought to act like an 
organization that we can be proud of. That's just my opinion.

Respectfully,
Jedi
Original message:
> Arielle,

> If order can be maintained for the election, this seems fine.  The
> problem is that NABS voice votes appear to happen more the, "All in
> favor, please scream now," as opposed to the, "All in favor, please
> say 'Aye'," that is actually requested.

> I think the only solution to that, if we want to maintain the
> convenience of a voice vote, is to immediately re-vote if there were
> people screaming their choice.  It shouldn't be up to any candidate
> to "be the bad guy" and insist on a count at that point, there should
> either just be another voice vote or move directly to a count.

> I suspect the first time a vote is retaken because of the screaming,
> it'll stop.  This could establish the tradition of throwing out the
> first vote of the NABS meeting every year, but hopefully not.

> Just a suggestion,

> Joseph


> On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 01:02:42PM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>> If you'd like to see any of these changed, please tell us on the
>> conference call or let someone know who will be on the call.

>> NABS Election Procedures

>>       The below assumes that we do not have a nominating committee. If NABS
>> decides to appoint a nominating committee, then a nominating committee
>> report will be added to the beginning of the election process.

>> For each elected position, I will announce the position and then ask
>> for nominations from the floor. I will ask for nominations three times
>> and then request a motion and a second to close nominations. If only
>> one candidate is nominated, then that candidate will be elected by
>> acclamation.

>>       If more than one candidate is nominated, then each candidate will be
>> given thirty seconds to speak to the membership. Candidates will speak
>> in the reverse order in which they were nominated. So if the
>> nominations were John-Cindy-Karen, the speeches would go
>> Karen-Cindy-John.

>>       Following speeches, a voice vote will be taken. If one candidate
>> receives all or nearly all of the “I” votes, then I will declare that
>> person the winner and ask if any of the other candidates want an exact
>> count. If not, then the candidate garnering the majority of the voice
>> votes will win. If the voice vote is inconclusive (as almost always
>> happens) or if the candidate(s) declared losers of the voice vote
>> request a count, then a count will be taken.

>>       The procedure for determining an exact vote count has not yet been
>> determined—will be decided by the NABS board this year with feedback
>> from the membership. All persons recruited to help count votes will be
>> recruited and trained prior to the election, and back-up vote counters
>> will be recruited in case the original counters cannot stay for the
>> duration of the election.

>>       If one candidate receives more than half (50%) of the total votes,
>> that person will be declared the winner. If not, then the candidate
>> receiving the least amount of votes will be dropped and a recount will
>> be conducted. This will continue until one candidate has received more
>> than half of the total votes. All voting will proceed in the same
>> order as speeches (so in the above example, Karen-Cindy-John).

>>       If at any point during the elections any member believes that proper
>> procedures are not being followed, counters are not reporting
>> accurately, etc. that member should come to the podium and get my
>> attention during a count so that I can be aware of and address the
>> problem immediately. Alternatively, any member can interrupt the
>> election process by saying, “Madame President, point of order” and
>> that person will be given the floor. The “point of order” request
>> overrides any ruling I might have made about moving on to the next
>> election.


>> --
>> Arielle Silverman
>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>> Email:
>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>> Website:
>> www.nabslink.org

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From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 14:31:36 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:31:36 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A Blind student and Musician Gets Interviewed And More On
	Tonight's Djd Invasion
Message-ID: <080A49C3EF074FDB8F8007FCBEA6A949@thedjdinvasion>

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From snowball07 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 19:06:04 2009
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:06:04 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] IMPORTANT- Nabs agenda and election call dial in
	information
Message-ID: <E54BA784A9274FA49CCEE9A27DEB8372@your0d10610b06>

Hello Guys,

The information for tonight's meeting about the election process is as follows:
The dial in number is- 712-775-7100
and the access code is- 257963
I have also attached a copy of the agenda for the meeting, which will be moderated by a neutral third party. Please read over the agenda of the meeting, so you can get a rough idea of how the proceedings for the meeting will be conducted. 
I can be reached at- 832.769.5082 should you have any further questions or concerns before the meeting. look forward to talking with you guys tonight!

Warmest Regards,

Janice jeang 

Secretary 
National     Association of Blind Students
www.nabslink.org
cell-832.769.5082
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 19:13:34 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:13:34 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Procedures
In-Reply-To: <20090809110243.11025.28627@web2.serotek.com>
References: <20090809110243.11025.28627@web2.serotek.com>
Message-ID: <409c235c0908091213g41f9d0efu315a5d004c74b81@mail.gmail.com>

List,
 one thing I would offer to keep in mind  is that  you do have  quite
a  bit of  individuals who would be seeing  an election for the first
time.  This means, that they probably are not the most aware of the
process, and would benifit from an explaination of the process before
the election process is started.  This may take a little longer, but
it's worth educating the membership (if not  briefly) on  what to
expector how it will  happen.  people, especially newer individuals
think that they have no voice, or that  there is no ryme or reason for
actions that take place during the process, and it would do them good
to know  that  this is not  the case.
 One  may say, this may take too long.  I say, consider the alternitive.

On 8/9/09, Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net> wrote:
> Joseph and List:
>
> It has been my position that what we need at NABS is good old fashioned
> maturity. I agree with Joseph that screaming for voice votes is both
> confusing and wholely unnecessary. We could certainly throw out votes
> where one portion of the population is trying to overpower another by
> sheer volume alone, but it's also up to the membership to remember that
> we are all adults or nearly so and that we ought to act like an
> organization that we can be proud of. That's just my opinion.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
> Original message:
>> Arielle,
>
>> If order can be maintained for the election, this seems fine.  The
>> problem is that NABS voice votes appear to happen more the, "All in
>> favor, please scream now," as opposed to the, "All in favor, please
>> say 'Aye'," that is actually requested.
>
>> I think the only solution to that, if we want to maintain the
>> convenience of a voice vote, is to immediately re-vote if there were
>> people screaming their choice.  It shouldn't be up to any candidate
>> to "be the bad guy" and insist on a count at that point, there should
>> either just be another voice vote or move directly to a count.
>
>> I suspect the first time a vote is retaken because of the screaming,
>> it'll stop.  This could establish the tradition of throwing out the
>> first vote of the NABS meeting every year, but hopefully not.
>
>> Just a suggestion,
>
>> Joseph
>
>
>> On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 01:02:42PM +1000, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>>> If you'd like to see any of these changed, please tell us on the
>>> conference call or let someone know who will be on the call.
>
>>> NABS Election Procedures
>
>>>       The below assumes that we do not have a nominating committee. If
>>> NABS
>>> decides to appoint a nominating committee, then a nominating committee
>>> report will be added to the beginning of the election process.
>
>>> For each elected position, I will announce the position and then ask
>>> for nominations from the floor. I will ask for nominations three times
>>> and then request a motion and a second to close nominations. If only
>>> one candidate is nominated, then that candidate will be elected by
>>> acclamation.
>
>>>       If more than one candidate is nominated, then each candidate will
>>> be
>>> given thirty seconds to speak to the membership. Candidates will speak
>>> in the reverse order in which they were nominated. So if the
>>> nominations were John-Cindy-Karen, the speeches would go
>>> Karen-Cindy-John.
>
>>>       Following speeches, a voice vote will be taken. If one candidate
>>> receives all or nearly all of the “I” votes, then I will declare that
>>> person the winner and ask if any of the other candidates want an exact
>>> count. If not, then the candidate garnering the majority of the voice
>>> votes will win. If the voice vote is inconclusive (as almost always
>>> happens) or if the candidate(s) declared losers of the voice vote
>>> request a count, then a count will be taken.
>
>>>       The procedure for determining an exact vote count has not yet been
>>> determined—will be decided by the NABS board this year with feedback
>>> from the membership. All persons recruited to help count votes will be
>>> recruited and trained prior to the election, and back-up vote counters
>>> will be recruited in case the original counters cannot stay for the
>>> duration of the election.
>
>>>       If one candidate receives more than half (50%) of the total votes,
>>> that person will be declared the winner. If not, then the candidate
>>> receiving the least amount of votes will be dropped and a recount will
>>> be conducted. This will continue until one candidate has received more
>>> than half of the total votes. All voting will proceed in the same
>>> order as speeches (so in the above example, Karen-Cindy-John).
>
>>>       If at any point during the elections any member believes that
>>> proper
>>> procedures are not being followed, counters are not reporting
>>> accurately, etc. that member should come to the podium and get my
>>> attention during a count so that I can be aware of and address the
>>> problem immediately. Alternatively, any member can interrupt the
>>> election process by saying, “Madame President, point of order” and
>>> that person will be given the floor. The “point of order” request
>>> overrides any ruling I might have made about moving on to the next
>>> election.
>
>
>>> --
>>> Arielle Silverman
>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>>> Email:
>>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>>> Website:
>>> www.nabslink.org
>
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From davidb521 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 19:54:55 2009
From: davidb521 at gmail.com (David)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:54:55 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] IMPORTANT- Nabs agenda and election call dial
	ininformation
In-Reply-To: <E54BA784A9274FA49CCEE9A27DEB8372@your0d10610b06>
Message-ID: <4a7f2991.27025a0a.429b.fffffe48@mx.google.com>

At what time is the meeting? I believe I missed that.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Janice
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] IMPORTANT- Nabs agenda and election call dial
ininformation
Importance: High

Hello Guys,

The information for tonight's meeting about the election process is as
follows:
The dial in number is- 712-775-7100
and the access code is- 257963
I have also attached a copy of the agenda for the meeting, which will be
moderated by a neutral third party. Please read over the agenda of the
meeting, so you can get a rough idea of how the proceedings for the meeting
will be conducted. 
I can be reached at- 832.769.5082 should you have any further questions or
concerns before the meeting. look forward to talking with you guys tonight!

Warmest Regards,

Janice jeang 

Secretary 
National     Association of Blind Students
www.nabslink.org
cell-832.769.5082



From brownbears at mchsi.com  Sun Aug  9 20:29:23 2009
From: brownbears at mchsi.com (Miranda brown)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:29:23 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
Message-ID: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>

Hi,
 
It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could someone tell me what it
is?
 

From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 21:02:09 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:02:09 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] IMPORTANT- Nabs agenda and election call dial
	ininformation
In-Reply-To: <4a7f2991.27025a0a.429b.fffffe48@mx.google.com>
References: <E54BA784A9274FA49CCEE9A27DEB8372@your0d10610b06>
	<4a7f2991.27025a0a.429b.fffffe48@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908091402x5b35fb0fme7ff0368e8bd4da2@mail.gmail.com>

8:30 EDT.

Arielle

On 8/10/09, David <davidb521 at gmail.com> wrote:
> At what time is the meeting? I believe I missed that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Janice
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:06 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] IMPORTANT- Nabs agenda and election call dial
> ininformation
> Importance: High
>
> Hello Guys,
>
> The information for tonight's meeting about the election process is as
> follows:
> The dial in number is- 712-775-7100
> and the access code is- 257963
> I have also attached a copy of the agenda for the meeting, which will be
> moderated by a neutral third party. Please read over the agenda of the
> meeting, so you can get a rough idea of how the proceedings for the meeting
> will be conducted.
> I can be reached at- 832.769.5082 should you have any further questions or
> concerns before the meeting. look forward to talking with you guys tonight!
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Janice jeang
>
> Secretary
> National     Association of Blind Students
> www.nabslink.org
> cell-832.769.5082
>
>
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-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 23:07:18 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:07:18 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Procedures
In-Reply-To: <409c235c0908091213g41f9d0efu315a5d004c74b81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090809110243.11025.28627@web2.serotek.com>
	<409c235c0908091213g41f9d0efu315a5d004c74b81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090809230718.GB6255@yumi.bluecherry.net>

That's a good point Darian,

It wouldn't take too long to describe the process, perhaps five 
minutes.  It may be all that we need to have an orderly voice vote, 
and orderly voice votes get us out the door in a fraction of the 
time anyway.

This is the kind of thing I was hoping to discuss.

Joseph


On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 12:13:34PM -0700, Darian Smith wrote:
>List,
> one thing I would offer to keep in mind  is that  you do have  quite
>a  bit of  individuals who would be seeing  an election for the first
>time.  This means, that they probably are not the most aware of the
>process, and would benifit from an explaination of the process before
>the election process is started.  This may take a little longer, but
>it's worth educating the membership (if not  briefly) on  what to
>expector how it will  happen.  people, especially newer individuals
>think that they have no voice, or that  there is no ryme or reason for
>actions that take place during the process, and it would do them good
>to know  that  this is not  the case.
> One  may say, this may take too long.  I say, consider the alternitive.


From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  9 23:20:05 2009
From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:20:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
In-Reply-To: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
Message-ID: <311527.17691.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The default pin is 7232


--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Miranda brown <brownbears at mchsi.com> wrote:

> From: Miranda brown <brownbears at mchsi.com>
> Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 4:29 PM
> Hi,
>  
> It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could
> someone tell me what it
> is?
>  
> _______________________________________________
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Sun Aug  9 23:44:42 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:44:42 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
References: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
Message-ID: <B0E11860E7C842D0936A310A3F46A9B8@teal6e6857f643>

all you do is spell RFBD like on a phone letters 7323


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Miranda brown" <brownbears at mchsi.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D


> Hi,
>
> It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could someone tell me what 
> it
> is?
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From marrie12 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 02:00:08 2009
From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:00:08 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
In-Reply-To: <B0E11860E7C842D0936A310A3F46A9B8@teal6e6857f643>
References: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
	<B0E11860E7C842D0936A310A3F46A9B8@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <C257C4491BB8444EB799FCB37FD8901B@sacomputer>

Hm I would have thought that because of security reasons they would have
assigned a different pin to different people. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Teal Bloodworth
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:45 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] RFB&D

all you do is spell RFBD like on a phone letters 7323


----- Original Message -----
From: "Miranda brown" <brownbears at mchsi.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D


> Hi,
>
> It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could someone tell me what 
> it
> is?
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dandrews at visi.com  Mon Aug 10 03:31:07 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:31:07 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
In-Reply-To: <311527.17691.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
	<311527.17691.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <auto-000113672629@mailfront2.g2host.com>

Actually it is 7323.

Dave

At 06:20 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
>The default pin is 7232
>
>
>--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Miranda brown <brownbears at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Miranda brown <brownbears at mchsi.com>
> > Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
> > To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 4:29 PM
> > Hi,
> >
> > It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could
> > someone tell me what it
> > is?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nabs-l mailing list
> > nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From snowball07 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 05:25:07 2009
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:25:07 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Tonights conference cals Minutes
Message-ID: <E94C7DC3E3D84A23958241A72EE9A882@your0d10610b06>

Hey Listers,

Attached to this email are the meeting minutes for tonight's conference call. Thank you all who participated and gave such great feedback and suggestions. We have decided that the best plan of action will be to summarize all of the concerns and ideas into one nabs survey. The survey will be conducted via an online survey site, known as survey monkey. It will be completely accessible to all those on this list. 
We will work on creating this survey, and it will be available to you, the membership within the month. Please look over the meeting minutes and get a rough idea of what your own personal preferences may be. 
I can also be reached for any other personal concerns that might not be address in these minutes, at janice.jeang at gmail.com. or at- 832.769.5082
I sincerely appreciate all the members that gave up their time to participate, and were so flexible schedule wise, on a Sunday. Thanks and enjoy.

Kindest regards,

Janice Jeang 
Secretary 
National Association of Blind students
Membership Committee Co-Chair
nabslink.org
cell- 832.769.5082
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From graduate56 at juno.com  Mon Aug 10 07:05:57 2009
From: graduate56 at juno.com (Melissa Green)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:05:57 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Final message.
Message-ID: <DEA5F12D50DA41A1B1DAE4E8A165CF76@melissa>

The colorado association of blind students(CABS) is still looking for mentors.
If you are interested please contact me at:
graduate56 at juno.com
By noon on thursday.
I have pasted the information before my signature.

If expressed yor interest  to become a mentor to a blind student in colorado.
Please drop me an email expressing your  interest.
If you have submitted an application and haven't heard back from me.  Email me your application again.
If you know of someone that would be good for this program also let me know as well.
We do need some more women.
Currently, there are only four women.
The Colorado association of blind students

CABS

Is looking for a few good men and women to become Mentors for young blind students.  

Mentors should be:

Legally blind;

High school graduate 

Reside, attend school, or training in the state of Colorado 

Interested in working with blind youth or young adults

Attend mentor training sessions and other related activities

Communicate with both the mentee and other mentors 

Good listener

Encouraging 

Supportive

Patient 

Flexible

Dependable

Committed

Possess a positive attitude about blindness

Demonstrate good blindness skills 

and, be:

Tolerant and respectful of individual differences
Melissa Green
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From merisa.musemic at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 18:51:46 2009
From: merisa.musemic at gmail.com (Merisa Musemic)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:51:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Skype Questions
Message-ID: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! I bought a new laptop, and downloaded skype 4.1. However I find
that this version of skype is not accessible with Jaws. Does anyone
know where I could download an older version?
Thanks!
Merisa


From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 21:57:36 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:57:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Skype Questions
In-Reply-To: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908101457u341620b0keefafa4931e1614e@mail.gmail.com>

I have a question for the list and a simple answer for Marissa.
Download the older version on the website.  There's a link there that
says it's accessible for screen readers.  My question is will the
version you might download work on a 64-bit system?  Do you have
64-bit Vista?
Beth

On 8/10/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! I bought a new laptop, and downloaded skype 4.1. However I find
> that this version of skype is not accessible with Jaws. Does anyone
> know where I could download an older version?
> Thanks!
> Merisa
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Mon Aug 10 22:20:29 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:20:29 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Skype Questions
In-Reply-To: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <409c235c0908101520m78161558yae1102c25007a36d@mail.gmail.com>

Merisa,
 I would  try download.com maybe they might have an older version.
 While I'm thinking about it, are you able to access menuesvia skype?
what kinds of problems are you having?
 Darian

On 8/10/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! I bought a new laptop, and downloaded skype 4.1. However I find
> that this version of skype is not accessible with Jaws. Does anyone
> know where I could download an older version?
> Thanks!
> Merisa
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From kimthurman at insightbb.com  Tue Aug 11 01:07:12 2009
From: kimthurman at insightbb.com (Kim Thurman)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:07:12 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
In-Reply-To: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
References: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
Message-ID: <073b01ca1a20$0edd72f0$2c9858d0$@com>

It is 7323.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Miranda brown
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:29 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D

Hi,
 
It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could someone tell me what it
is?
 
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From nfbnc at carolina.rr.com  Tue Aug 11 03:10:50 2009
From: nfbnc at carolina.rr.com (NFBNC)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:10:50 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Internet Show to Air Wed. Aug.. 12!
Message-ID: <auto-000111453863@mailfront1.g2host.com>


Hello All,
I am so pleased to inform you that this Wednesday night, August 
12  at 8 PM EST, 7 PM CST, 6 PM MST, and 5 PM PST. . .
will be the broadcast of the internet show:
 From Our Hearts To Your Homes
Host : Jane Degenshein and co-host Gerry Moreno will combine to 
produce a mixture of facts and fun!
NFB News involving Newsline from beginning to the current including 
newsline on the go
Newsline voices
A Fabulous book corner discussing authors:
Janet Evanovich
Jodi Picoult and
Lisa Scottoline
A Delicious summer recipe of :
Low Cal Orange chiffon pie
and much more.
You can access this show by logging into:
<http://www.thruoureyes.org>www.thruoureyes.org
or our Jaws friendly :
<http://www.thruoureyes.org/jaws.html>www.thruoureyes.org/jaws.html
Or by phone:
1 605 475 6333
Use the access code:
833520
If you would like to send a recipe or book suggestion or any other 
comments, kindly e-mail to:
<mailto:jdegen16 at comcast.net>jdegen16 at comcast.net
your message just may be included in a future episode!
Also, while the show is on the air, interested listeners can call in 
live by using:
1 888 572 0141
Wishing you all a terrific end of summer and
Happy Listening!
Warmly,
Janie Degenshein
Host of: From Our Hearts To Your Homes
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)

From fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 11 03:39:30 2009
From: fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com (Franandah Damstra)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:39:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Skype Questions
In-Reply-To: <409c235c0908101520m78161558yae1102c25007a36d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
	<409c235c0908101520m78161558yae1102c25007a36d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a7b0cbec0908102039o28fd4816o4e9c432c612950e8@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, Skype has gotten even more accessible with Jaws. You need to
download the Jaws Scripts though. After you do that, Jaws works just
great! Click on this link [www.dlee.org/skype/jfw-skr41b_beta3.exe]
and download the .exe file. Extract it, and Jaws will work fine.
~Franandah
On 8/10/09, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Merisa,
>  I would  try download.com maybe they might have an older version.
>  While I'm thinking about it, are you able to access menuesvia skype?
> what kinds of problems are you having?
>  Darian
>
> On 8/10/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi! I bought a new laptop, and downloaded skype 4.1. However I find
>> that this version of skype is not accessible with Jaws. Does anyone
>> know where I could download an older version?
>> Thanks!
>> Merisa
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 11 03:47:17 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:47:17 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: [PM] FSReader for PAC mate Now Free
Message-ID: <D14AEB1CF3944661B0EA2E12308B5A23@Dezman>

In case some of you haven't gotten this yet.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <jmosen at FreedomScientific.com>
To: "The PAC Mate User List" <pmlist at pacmategear.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:46 AM
Subject: [PM] FSReader for PAC mate Now Free


> Freedom Scientific Announces FREE DAISY Book Reader
> (St. Petersburg, Florida - August 10, 2009) - Freedom Scientific today
> announced that it is now providing FSReader, its popular DAISY book
> reader, free to users of its PAC Mate(tm) and PAC Mate Omni(tm)
> accessible Pocket PCs.
> 
> "Because we feel very strongly about the importance of making books and
> other materials accessible to those with vision impairments, we are
> lowering the price of FSReader to zero," said Jonathan Mosen, Vice
> President of Hardware Product Management for Freedom Scientific.
> "FSReader is a powerful tool for efficiently navigating and reading
> professional, educational, and leisure material in DAISY format, and we
> want to make this enhanced productivity available to every PAC Mate
> user."
> 
> FSReader for the PAC Mate and PAC Mate Omni can be downloaded free from
> the Freedom Scientific Web site. 
> 
> In addition, users who install Freedom Scientific's JAWS 11 and MAGic 12
> products later this Fall, will be pleased to discover that both products
> include the full desktop version of FSReader DAISY player. This will be
> the case with Demo versions of JAWS and MAGic as well. 
> 
> About Freedom Scientific
> Freedom Scientific is the leading worldwide provider of assistive
> technology products for those with vision impairments. The Company sells
> its products worldwide and has offices in Florida, Germany, and
> Switzerland. The Company's products have been translated into 24
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> a line of software products for those with learning disabilities.
> 
> Freedom Scientific(r), JAWS(r), MAGic(r), PAC Mate(tm) and PAC Mate
> Omni(tm) are either trademarks or registered trademarks in the United
> States and/or other countries.
> 
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Tue Aug 11 07:43:44 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:43:44 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
In-Reply-To: <C257C4491BB8444EB799FCB37FD8901B@sacomputer>
References: <EBEF0CC4F6314D94B01F886C22C5A8C4@MIRANDA>
	<B0E11860E7C842D0936A310A3F46A9B8@teal6e6857f643>
	<C257C4491BB8444EB799FCB37FD8901B@sacomputer>
Message-ID: <20090811074344.GC44298@yumi.bluecherry.net>

It wouldn't matter, the AudioPlus encryption is ... not very 
difficult to circumvent.  Actually, none of it is hard to circumvent, 
but you're not going to get a pure digital unencrypted copy of 
something from NLS.

Er, or so I have been led to understand.  *grin*

Waiting for "proper" AudioPlus support for Olearia.  *sigh*

Joseph

On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:00:08PM -0700, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>Hm I would have thought that because of security reasons they would have
>assigned a different pin to different people. 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>Of Teal Bloodworth
>Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:45 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] RFB&D
>
>all you do is spell RFBD like on a phone letters 7323
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Miranda brown" <brownbears at mchsi.com>
>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:29 PM
>Subject: [nabs-l] RFB&D
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It has been so long since I used the RFB&D pin could someone tell me what 
>> it
>> is?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>il.com 
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From corbbo at gmail.com  Tue Aug 11 20:45:30 2009
From: corbbo at gmail.com (Corbb O'Connor)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:45:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Panel looking for Braille readers at George Mason
	University
Message-ID: <4ed9a39a0908111345y48611b57ndd7ac309002038c9@mail.gmail.com>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Avila" <krwa at verizon.net
To: <kavila at gmu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Braille Readers Panel


Dear Friends and teachers,

(TVI's and service providers, please pass this along to any students who may
be interested in speaking on this panel.)

This fall I will be teaching "Braille Code" through the Virginia Consortium
and George Mason University.  In my efforts to help the graduate
students/prospective teachers of the visually impaired understand braille is
more than memorizing code, I would like to host a panel discussion of
braille readers who will bring personal perspectives of how braille has
impacted their lives.

This panel will consist of 3-5 members of differing ages and braille reading
abilities.  A list of topics that will be discussed will be passed along to
volunteer panel members closer to the date, but here is a general overview
of questions:

How long did it take you to learn braille?
What was easy, what was hard?
Were teachers, family and schools supportive of you learning and reading
braille?
Were there any teaching strategies used that were good for you or not so
good?
What obstacles did you face in learning or accessing braille?
How did you manage all of the braille materials and volumes of books?
Has braille opened up opportunities for you?
Did knowing braille impact your ability to get a job or attend college after
high school?
How has access to braille changed over the years?  (For those who have been
braille readers longer, what has changed in recent decades that you feel are
great or not so great...)
What advice can you give to teachers of the visually impaired or students
learning braille that will make it more efficient, more fun or more
accessible?
Are you glad you learned braille?
Funny stories: students LOVE to hear any cute anecdotes or experiences with
braille that make them laugh.

I have created a very thorough, packed syllabus for the Braille course, with
lessons on every aspect of braille literacy, techniques and technologies for
teaching/transcribing/reading braille and we will be using the NLS
curriculum/WESBraille for code instruction.  However, any technologies or
devices you would like to demo during panel would be great, just let me know
what you will be bringing.

There are four prospective dates for this panel: 10/1/09, 10/8/09, 10/22/09
or 11/12/09.  Please let me know your order of preference for days, all
classes are from 4-6:40 on Thursdays.  The panel will be approximately 1
hour (give or take) and would ideally begin at 4:00, but I am flexible with
the start time (the latest start time would be 5:30).

Our class is located in Fairfax City, about 1.5 miles from GMU's main
campus. Directions will be provided to volunteers.  Sorry, there is no
re-imbursement for guest speaker travel expenses, but your testimony will
have a tremendous impact on future TVI's and students.

Sincerely,

Kimberly Avila M.A., COMS
Adjunct Professor of Special Education, Blindness and Visual Impairment
Contracting Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments
ACVREP Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist
www.vipsight.org


From marrie12 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 01:51:25 2009
From: marrie12 at gmail.com (Sarah Alawami)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:51:25 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Skype Questions
In-Reply-To: <409c235c0908101520m78161558yae1102c25007a36d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <df5bac6d0908101151o46c6ccf8g881f333233863d4c@mail.gmail.com>
	<409c235c0908101520m78161558yae1102c25007a36d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA38693DD07F461CB907248C58C0CD81@sacomputer>

I'm actally doing  fine withskype 4.1. I hoep to get started on the
tutorials soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Darian Smith
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:20 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Skype Questions

Merisa,
 I would  try download.com maybe they might have an older version.
 While I'm thinking about it, are you able to access menuesvia skype?
what kinds of problems are you having?
 Darian

On 8/10/09, Merisa Musemic <merisa.musemic at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! I bought a new laptop, and downloaded skype 4.1. However I find 
> that this version of skype is not accessible with Jaws. Does anyone 
> know where I could download an older version?
> Thanks!
> Merisa
>
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From srp at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 12 02:19:43 2009
From: srp at internode.on.net (Steve Pattison)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:19:43 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] FreedomScientific announces Free DAISY player for PacMate
Message-ID: <auto-000113988102@mailfront2.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Media Contact: Brad Davis
800-444-4443 or 727-803-8000
www.FreedomScientific.com
Sales: info at FreedomScientific.com
Freedom Scientific Announces FREE DAISY Book Reader
(St. Petersburg, Florida - August 10, 2009) - Freedom Scientific today
announced that it is now providing FSReader, its popular DAISY book reader,
free to users of its PAC MateT and PAC Mate OmniT accessible Pocket PCs.
"Because we feel very strongly about the importance of making books and
other materials accessible to those with vision impairments, we are lowering
the price of FSReader to zero," said Jonathan Mosen, Vice President of
Hardware Product Management for Freedom Scientific. "FSReader is a powerful
tool for efficiently navigating and reading professional, educational, and
leisure material in DAISY format, and we want to make this enhanced
productivity available to every PAC Mate user."
FSReader for the PAC Mate and PAC Mate Omni can be downloaded free from the
Freedom Scientific Web site.
In addition, users who install Freedom Scientific's JAWS 11 and MAGic 12
products later this Fall, will be pleased to discover that both products
include the full desktop version of FSReader DAISY player. This will be the
case with Demo versions of JAWS and MAGic as well.
About Freedom Scientific
Freedom Scientific is the leading worldwide provider of assistive technology
products for those with vision impairments. The Company sells its products
worldwide and has offices in Florida, Germany, and Switzerland. The
Company's products have been translated into 24 languages and are available
in 55 countries. Freedom Scientific also has a line of software products for
those with learning disabilities.
Freedom ScientificR, JAWSR, MAGicR, PAC MateT, and PAC Mate OmniT are either
trademarks or registered trademarks in the United States and/or other
countries.



From jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com  Wed Aug 12 02:28:20 2009
From: jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com (Jessica Kostiw)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:28:20 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] [Vabs] Panel looking for Braille readers at George
	Mason University
References: <4ed9a39a0908111345y48611b57ndd7ac309002038c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002301ca1af4$8fe0feb0$6a4ca962@Jessica>

I would definitly be interested, but am not sure if I qualify as I am no 
longer a student?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corbb O'Connor" <corbbo at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <vabs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:45 PM
Subject: [Vabs] Panel looking for Braille readers at George Mason University


> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Avila" <krwa at verizon.net
> To: <kavila at gmu.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:18 PM
> Subject: Braille Readers Panel
>
>
> Dear Friends and teachers,
>
> (TVI's and service providers, please pass this along to any students who 
> may
> be interested in speaking on this panel.)
>
> This fall I will be teaching "Braille Code" through the Virginia 
> Consortium
> and George Mason University.  In my efforts to help the graduate
> students/prospective teachers of the visually impaired understand braille 
> is
> more than memorizing code, I would like to host a panel discussion of
> braille readers who will bring personal perspectives of how braille has
> impacted their lives.
>
> This panel will consist of 3-5 members of differing ages and braille 
> reading
> abilities.  A list of topics that will be discussed will be passed along 
> to
> volunteer panel members closer to the date, but here is a general overview
> of questions:
>
> How long did it take you to learn braille?
> What was easy, what was hard?
> Were teachers, family and schools supportive of you learning and reading
> braille?
> Were there any teaching strategies used that were good for you or not so
> good?
> What obstacles did you face in learning or accessing braille?
> How did you manage all of the braille materials and volumes of books?
> Has braille opened up opportunities for you?
> Did knowing braille impact your ability to get a job or attend college 
> after
> high school?
> How has access to braille changed over the years?  (For those who have 
> been
> braille readers longer, what has changed in recent decades that you feel 
> are
> great or not so great...)
> What advice can you give to teachers of the visually impaired or students
> learning braille that will make it more efficient, more fun or more
> accessible?
> Are you glad you learned braille?
> Funny stories: students LOVE to hear any cute anecdotes or experiences 
> with
> braille that make them laugh.
>
> I have created a very thorough, packed syllabus for the Braille course, 
> with
> lessons on every aspect of braille literacy, techniques and technologies 
> for
> teaching/transcribing/reading braille and we will be using the NLS
> curriculum/WESBraille for code instruction.  However, any technologies or
> devices you would like to demo during panel would be great, just let me 
> know
> what you will be bringing.
>
> There are four prospective dates for this panel: 10/1/09, 10/8/09, 
> 10/22/09
> or 11/12/09.  Please let me know your order of preference for days, all
> classes are from 4-6:40 on Thursdays.  The panel will be approximately 1
> hour (give or take) and would ideally begin at 4:00, but I am flexible 
> with
> the start time (the latest start time would be 5:30).
>
> Our class is located in Fairfax City, about 1.5 miles from GMU's main
> campus. Directions will be provided to volunteers.  Sorry, there is no
> re-imbursement for guest speaker travel expenses, but your testimony will
> have a tremendous impact on future TVI's and students.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kimberly Avila M.A., COMS
> Adjunct Professor of Special Education, Blindness and Visual Impairment
> Contracting Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments
> ACVREP Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist
> www.vipsight.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Vabs at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> Vabs:
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From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 12 14:19:02 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:19:02 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Executive products case for BookSense now available
Message-ID: <878E68807A274E56A3AC878FBB110940@dwrigh6>

Hello all,

Handy Tech North America is proud to now offer the very hi quality Executive
Products leather case for the BookSense DAISY Reader and multimedia
player/recorder.  This classy form fitting case is made of soft leather,
comes with a wrist strap and optional longer lanyard strap for hanging
around you neck or over your shoulder.  It also has a belt clip which hardly
sticks out at all.  Of course, all of the controls, switches, ports and
buttons are fully accessible while still in the case and a small zipper
pocket on the front provides a great place to keep your extra SD Cards.

These little gems are priced at $35.00 including shipping and for a limited
time, if purchased at the same time you purchase your BookSense XT at the
advertised summer promotional price of $449.00,Handy Tech North America will
throw in the executive products leather case absolutely free.  If purchased
at the same time as you purchase the BookSense Standard at the advertised
summer promotional price of $314.00, you can pick up the Executive Products
leather case for only $20.00 more.

So dress that sleek and stylish BookSense up with a case the exudes class
while protecting your investment and pick-up your Executive Products leather
case while quantities last.

Interested parties may contact Handy Tech North America during the business
hours of 8:00 AM until 5:00 PM, Monday through Friday at:

651-636-5184

Or by e-mailing:

sales at handytech.us


Best regards,
   Dave Wright
Regional Sales Manager- Handy Tech North America
 
Phone:  651-636-5184 X803

Mobile: 347-422-7085
 
Fax:  866-347-8249
 
E-mail:
dave at handytech.us
 
Web site:
http://www.handytech.us

From nabs.president at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 16:33:24 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:33:24 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Gabs] Please read: stalk a college student for a day
	program!
In-Reply-To: <fba03a170908110909y7307a63fm1a9b221e5bf0945c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fba03a170908110909y7307a63fm1a9b221e5bf0945c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908130933j1929132do36865bf1cc979e7d@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:09:48 -0400
Subject: [Gabs] Please read: stalk a college student for a day program!
To: arriandra at yahoo.com, Arron.boone at gaggle.net, Ashley Whitley
<babyashleyw at gmail.com>, Awlynb_1293 at yahoo.com, bjwilliams1989
<bjwilliams1989 at gmail.com>, celyse102 at yahoo.com,
Chelsea.stevenson at gaggle.net, gabs <gabs at nfbnet.org>,
Grecia2009 at yahoo.com, Isaiah Wilcox <iwilcox2011 at gmail.com>,
JABARISMORAN at gmail.com, Jasmine Cook <jasminecook17 at gmail.com>,
jasminelcampbell at live.com, Jorob909 at yahoo.com,
Joseph.dingle at gaggle.net, Josh.wells at gaggle.net, "lakeisha.rene"
<lakeisha.rene at gmail.com>, Maria.vasileva at gaggle.net,
Megan.Harvy at gaggle.net, Michael.ross at gaggle.net,
Nicolesept30 at gmail.com, NikkiJ84 at gmail.com, quint.thomas at gaggle.net,
robert.mckay at gaggle.net, sami.bubble at gmail.com, Samuel T
<samueltaylor08 at yahoo.com>, Sarah <Sarah.pergola at gaggle.net>,
sharonball1024 at yahoo.com, Shelby Ball <shelbyaball at hotmail.com>,
Shereon.Reaves at gaggle.net, taey06 at gmail.com, uwantjaz_10 at yahoo.com
Cc: Garrick Scott <gscott at nfbga.org>, freestyleking_dlt at yahoo.com

Hello All!
As the summer draws to an end, hopefully a happy end, we are all
embarking upon a new academic year. And at this time I would like to
make you an offer again, which will help you decide upon that oh so
important question, where should I go to college.
If you are a high school student, you can get the opportunity to
follow a college student for a day, go to class, and see what it
really is like. All you have to do is fill out a brief survey. The
link will be at the bottom of this email, or you can call me at:
732-857-7004, and I will fill it out with you.
In order for this to work however, i need all the college students I
can get to help. So,, college students, please fill out this survey
too, if you are looking for community hours, here's a great chance.
Any questions please contact me.
Thanks to all.
Mary
high school student link:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=0F0dlx2rCWK9vK8VLYbUxg_3d_3d
College students link:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Un5T1bc60qQxArkvt_2bwC8A_3d_3d
-- 

Mary Fernandez
Emory University 2012
P.O. Box 123056
Atlanta Ga.
30322
Phone: 732-857-7004
In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that
greatness is never a given. It must be earned.
President Barack Obama

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-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 12 14:19:02 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:19:02 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] [Electronics-talk] Executive products case for BookSense
	now	available
Message-ID: <878E68807A274E56A3AC878FBB110940@dwrigh6>

Hello all,

Handy Tech North America is proud to now offer the very hi quality Executive
Products leather case for the BookSense DAISY Reader and multimedia
player/recorder.  This classy form fitting case is made of soft leather,
comes with a wrist strap and optional longer lanyard strap for hanging
around you neck or over your shoulder.  It also has a belt clip which hardly
sticks out at all.  Of course, all of the controls, switches, ports and
buttons are fully accessible while still in the case and a small zipper
pocket on the front provides a great place to keep your extra SD Cards.

These little gems are priced at $35.00 including shipping and for a limited
time, if purchased at the same time you purchase your BookSense XT at the
advertised summer promotional price of $449.00,Handy Tech North America will
throw in the executive products leather case absolutely free.  If purchased
at the same time as you purchase the BookSense Standard at the advertised
summer promotional price of $314.00, you can pick up the Executive Products
leather case for only $20.00 more.

So dress that sleek and stylish BookSense up with a case the exudes class
while protecting your investment and pick-up your Executive Products leather
case while quantities last.

Interested parties may contact Handy Tech North America during the business
hours of 8:00 AM until 5:00 PM, Monday through Friday at:

651-636-5184

Or by e-mailing:

sales at handytech.us


Best regards,
   Dave Wright
Regional Sales Manager- Handy Tech North America
 
Phone:  651-636-5184 X803

Mobile: 347-422-7085
 
Fax:  866-347-8249
 
E-mail:
dave at handytech.us
 
Web site:
http://www.handytech.us
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 20:09:17 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:09:17 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] I Phone 3 G s
Message-ID: <409c235c0908131309k48e82698jbd5ec1fce31f5a5a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

 Just wanted to know how people are  recieving the new I phone 3 G S?
I  understand it's a pretty awsome breakthrough as technologygoes,
but, i am wondering how people  feel about  it's ability to speak on
calls?
  My understanding of this is that the screen goes dark on the phone,
and the voice drops to a very low volume where one can't hear what's
being said and  the volume cannot be modified.
 What are people's thoughts? Is it true? is it false? Can it slice,
dice, and do the solja boy?


 Best,
 Darian


From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 12 14:19:02 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:19:02 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] [Electronics-talk] Executive products case for BookSense
	now	available
Message-ID: <878E68807A274E56A3AC878FBB110940@dwrigh6>

Hello all,

Handy Tech North America is proud to now offer the very hi quality Executive
Products leather case for the BookSense DAISY Reader and multimedia
player/recorder.  This classy form fitting case is made of soft leather,
comes with a wrist strap and optional longer lanyard strap for hanging
around you neck or over your shoulder.  It also has a belt clip which hardly
sticks out at all.  Of course, all of the controls, switches, ports and
buttons are fully accessible while still in the case and a small zipper
pocket on the front provides a great place to keep your extra SD Cards.

These little gems are priced at $35.00 including shipping and for a limited
time, if purchased at the same time you purchase your BookSense XT at the
advertised summer promotional price of $449.00,Handy Tech North America will
throw in the executive products leather case absolutely free.  If purchased
at the same time as you purchase the BookSense Standard at the advertised
summer promotional price of $314.00, you can pick up the Executive Products
leather case for only $20.00 more.

So dress that sleek and stylish BookSense up with a case the exudes class
while protecting your investment and pick-up your Executive Products leather
case while quantities last.

Interested parties may contact Handy Tech North America during the business
hours of 8:00 AM until 5:00 PM, Monday through Friday at:

651-636-5184

Or by e-mailing:

sales at handytech.us


Best regards,
   Dave Wright
Regional Sales Manager- Handy Tech North America
 
Phone:  651-636-5184 X803

Mobile: 347-422-7085
 
Fax:  866-347-8249
 
E-mail:
dave at handytech.us
 
Web site:
http://www.handytech.us
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From tmm326 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 21:16:19 2009
From: tmm326 at gmail.com (T. Audrey Medina)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:16:19 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: Register for Bay Area Disability Seminar on
	International Exchange
Message-ID: <BE46D95FEF4C45E9B50D4655E77C5D19@DC4V3PD1>

Dear Colleagues,Hi all,

Thought I'd pass this along.  I don't think I've seen it on the list, but I apologize if it's a repeat.

Best,
Audrey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alisyn Henneck 
To: clearinghouse at miusa.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:13 AM
Subject: Register for Bay Area Disability Seminar on International Exchange


Dear Friends of Mobility International USA,

 

Are you a U.S. citizen with a disability? Do you work with people with disabilities? Are you or they interested in international exchange? If so, we invite you to join us for our one day disability seminar in Berkeley, CA on October 30, 2009.  If you cannot attend, feel free to distribute this information to your U.S. colleagues, friends, and members and share on other listservs, websites and e-newsletters. A flyer to post in PDF or Rich Text Format can be downloaded online at: http://www.miusa.org/ncde/seminarbayarea. Registration is online now through October 16, 2009. Early registration is encouraged as this event is limited to 60 participants.

 

 

Thanks,

Alisyn Henneck

Mobility International USA

ahenneck at miusa.org

 

                    Please distribute this to your colleagues, friends, and members and share on listservs, websites and e-newsletters. A flyer in PDF or Rich Text format to post can also be downloaded online.
                 

                 
                  Disability Community Seminar
                  Accessing the World through International Exchange
                  Berkeley, CA
                  October 30, 2009


                  U.S. citizens and residents with disabilities and representatives of U.S. disability organizations are invited to attend this one-day seminar and luncheon as we discuss the 'Who, What, Where and Why' of international exchange for U.S. students, teachers, professionals and others with disabilities:

                    a.. Presenters with disabilities will share personal international exchange stories and talk about accommodation strategies for navigating abroad, what to bring, what to expect and more. 
                    b.. Participants will receive practical tools and resources on using VR and keeping SSI benefits, while also learning about scholarships available for international exchange. 
                    c.. Representatives of international exchange organizations will present about programs and scholarships, best practices and share from past exchange experiences. 
                  When:   Friday, October 30, 2009, 9:30am - 4:00pm
                  Where:  Clark Kerr Campus, Garden Room
                                Dining Center--Building 10
                                2601 Warring Street 
                                University of California, Berkeley
                                Berkeley, CA
                  Cost:      $40* (includes lunch). 
                                *Registrants may request a scholarship for a 
                                reduced rate based on financial need.


                  Wheelchair Accessible. Sign language interpreter, alternative formats and other disability-related accommodations provided upon request. 

                  For More Information and Registration, go to: 
                  www.miusa.org/ncde/seminarbayarea 
                  or 
                  contact MIUSA at:
                  Email: clearinghouse at miusa.org
                  Tel/TTY: (541) 343-1284

                  Co-sponsored by Mobility International USA, the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs of the U.S. Department of State, Bay Area Outreach Program (BORP), Center for Independent Living (CIL), Disability Rights Education Defense Fund (DREDF), Institute of International Education (IIE), San Francisco Mayor's Office on Disability, and University of California-Berkeley.


                  Registration deadline: October 16, 2009 - Space limited to 60 participants, so register early!
                 
                  The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange provides free information and referral services related to the participation of people with disabilities in international exchange programs. The Clearinghouse is sponsored by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs of the U.S. Department of State, and is managed by Mobility International USA, which is celebrating its 28th year as a U.S.-based non-profit organization.

                  Our mailing address is:

                  Mobility International USA
                  132 E. Broadway, Suite 343
                  Eugene, Oregon 97401 USA

                  Our telephone/tty:
                  541-343-1284

                  If you do not want to receive these press releases, please unsubscribe by emailing: clearinghouse at miusa.org.
                 

           

     

 

From tmm326 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 21:39:36 2009
From: tmm326 at gmail.com (T. Audrey Medina)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:39:36 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Info about Fulbright
Message-ID: <2D672FCD146240DDB2CF2F21D395283B@DC4V3PD1>

Hi all,



I am volunteering with Mobility International USA this summer, and I wanted to let you know that the National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange (NCDE) and the Fulbright Program, which are both sponsored by the U.S. Department of State, are trying to encourage more people with disabilities to apply for Fulbright scholarships for study, research, or teaching abroad. Many eligible applicants with disabilities have reported that they are not applying for Fulbright programs because they don't know about the program or don't believe their applications would be competitive. The Fulbright program has previously awarded grants to people with disabilities, and it is an excellent means to gain an international experience. 

 

With the annual Fulbright deadlines rapidly approaching later this summer, I thought I would pass along some Fulbright information.




To read more detailed Fulbright press releases on the U.S. Scholar Program or the U.S. Student Program, you can go to the following webpage:



 http://www.miusa.org/ncde/spotlight/fulbright.

 

For general information regarding the Fulbright Program, please visit:



 http://fulbright.state.gov. 

 

If you have any questions or comments, you can write to clearinghouse at miusa.org, or you you can contact me directly (info below).  Either way, I think it's worth checking out  the National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange's website:



http://www.miusa.org/ncde. 

 


All the best,

Audrey




T. Audrey Medina

Summer Intern, Mobility International USA

Tel/TTY: 541-343-1284

E-mail: intern at miusa.org



From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 12 14:19:02 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:19:02 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] [Electronics-talk] Executive products case for BookSense
	now	available
Message-ID: <878E68807A274E56A3AC878FBB110940@dwrigh6>

Hello all,

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Products leather case for the BookSense DAISY Reader and multimedia
player/recorder.  This classy form fitting case is made of soft leather,
comes with a wrist strap and optional longer lanyard strap for hanging
around you neck or over your shoulder.  It also has a belt clip which hardly
sticks out at all.  Of course, all of the controls, switches, ports and
buttons are fully accessible while still in the case and a small zipper
pocket on the front provides a great place to keep your extra SD Cards.

These little gems are priced at $35.00 including shipping and for a limited
time, if purchased at the same time you purchase your BookSense XT at the
advertised summer promotional price of $449.00,Handy Tech North America will
throw in the executive products leather case absolutely free.  If purchased
at the same time as you purchase the BookSense Standard at the advertised
summer promotional price of $314.00, you can pick up the Executive Products
leather case for only $20.00 more.

So dress that sleek and stylish BookSense up with a case the exudes class
while protecting your investment and pick-up your Executive Products leather
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From iamantonio at cox.net  Fri Aug 14 01:22:20 2009
From: iamantonio at cox.net (Antonio M. Guimaraes)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:22:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] [Vabs] Panel looking for Braille readers at
	GeorgeMason University
References: <4ed9a39a0908111345y48611b57ndd7ac309002038c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<002301ca1af4$8fe0feb0$6a4ca962@Jessica>
Message-ID: <1F665C9F23E144948F3FA53459356DDA@userf9b4fa60eb>

Jessica,

I don't see a requirement to be a braille-reading student. They are looking 
for braille readers of all ages?

Contact the class professor, and she will be able to tell you exactly what 
she's looking for.

Sincerely,

Antonio Guimaraes

If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of pickup 
trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite number of 
highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great literary 
works in Braille.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jessica Kostiw" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>
To: "Virginia Association of Blind Students list" <vabs at nfbnet.org>; 
"National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Vabs] Panel looking for Braille readers at 
GeorgeMason University


>I would definitly be interested, but am not sure if I qualify as I am no 
>longer a student?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Corbb O'Connor" <corbbo at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <vabs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:45 PM
> Subject: [Vabs] Panel looking for Braille readers at George Mason 
> University
>
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Avila" <krwa at verizon.net
>> To: <kavila at gmu.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Braille Readers Panel
>>
>>
>> Dear Friends and teachers,
>>
>> (TVI's and service providers, please pass this along to any students who 
>> may
>> be interested in speaking on this panel.)
>>
>> This fall I will be teaching "Braille Code" through the Virginia 
>> Consortium
>> and George Mason University.  In my efforts to help the graduate
>> students/prospective teachers of the visually impaired understand braille 
>> is
>> more than memorizing code, I would like to host a panel discussion of
>> braille readers who will bring personal perspectives of how braille has
>> impacted their lives.
>>
>> This panel will consist of 3-5 members of differing ages and braille 
>> reading
>> abilities.  A list of topics that will be discussed will be passed along 
>> to
>> volunteer panel members closer to the date, but here is a general 
>> overview
>> of questions:
>>
>> How long did it take you to learn braille?
>> What was easy, what was hard?
>> Were teachers, family and schools supportive of you learning and reading
>> braille?
>> Were there any teaching strategies used that were good for you or not so
>> good?
>> What obstacles did you face in learning or accessing braille?
>> How did you manage all of the braille materials and volumes of books?
>> Has braille opened up opportunities for you?
>> Did knowing braille impact your ability to get a job or attend college 
>> after
>> high school?
>> How has access to braille changed over the years?  (For those who have 
>> been
>> braille readers longer, what has changed in recent decades that you feel 
>> are
>> great or not so great...)
>> What advice can you give to teachers of the visually impaired or students
>> learning braille that will make it more efficient, more fun or more
>> accessible?
>> Are you glad you learned braille?
>> Funny stories: students LOVE to hear any cute anecdotes or experiences 
>> with
>> braille that make them laugh.
>>
>> I have created a very thorough, packed syllabus for the Braille course, 
>> with
>> lessons on every aspect of braille literacy, techniques and technologies 
>> for
>> teaching/transcribing/reading braille and we will be using the NLS
>> curriculum/WESBraille for code instruction.  However, any technologies or
>> devices you would like to demo during panel would be great, just let me 
>> know
>> what you will be bringing.
>>
>> There are four prospective dates for this panel: 10/1/09, 10/8/09, 
>> 10/22/09
>> or 11/12/09.  Please let me know your order of preference for days, all
>> classes are from 4-6:40 on Thursdays.  The panel will be approximately 1
>> hour (give or take) and would ideally begin at 4:00, but I am flexible 
>> with
>> the start time (the latest start time would be 5:30).
>>
>> Our class is located in Fairfax City, about 1.5 miles from GMU's main
>> campus. Directions will be provided to volunteers.  Sorry, there is no
>> re-imbursement for guest speaker travel expenses, but your testimony will
>> have a tremendous impact on future TVI's and students.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Kimberly Avila M.A., COMS
>> Adjunct Professor of Special Education, Blindness and Visual Impairment
>> Contracting Teacher of Students with Visual Impairments
>> ACVREP Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist
>> www.vipsight.org
>>
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From valandkayla at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:08:36 2009
From: valandkayla at gmail.com (Valerie Gibson)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:08:36 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] firefox and website hotkeys using jaws 10
Message-ID: <da706cb30908132008g1845fddan96a81617710044d1@mail.gmail.com>

For those of you who use firefox, I have a question for you:

when you're on a site, and there's a link, to which considerate people
have hooked a hot key combination to, does jaws read it kind of choppy
if it's a long link? here's an example:
(Q  Alt+Shift+Q) Logout and Save  Alt+Shift+Q Alt+Shift+Q

and trust me, it's even more choppy if it's a longer link, like the
hotkey combo, or parts of it, will be chillin in the middle of the
link when jaws is trying to read it.

I was just wondering if this happened to anyone else, if it's a jaws
10 thing, or if it's a firefox thing, and how i can fix it.


From snowball07 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 03:12:36 2009
From: snowball07 at gmail.com (Janice)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:12:36 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] I Phone 3 G s
References: <409c235c0908131309k48e82698jbd5ec1fce31f5a5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C62E814E5224581B56BC7DF14DC0967@your0d10610b06>

Hello Darrian and list,
There is a group specifically FOr those intrested in the  new I phone 3gs. 
It is VIPhone. You can find it on the Google groups list. I currently have 
one and say mine doesn't do the Soldier boy, cause it finds it derogatory 
towards women. I find most pink phones are feminists... Smirk.
However, the list has all the information you could want, and they talk 
about how you get around things like iv you are worried about not hearing 
voice over (VO), in a call, etc...

HTH,

Janice
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: <Nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <Cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>; <Nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:09 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] I Phone 3 G s


> Hello all,
>
> Just wanted to know how people are  recieving the new I phone 3 G S?
> I  understand it's a pretty awsome breakthrough as technologygoes,
> but, i am wondering how people  feel about  it's ability to speak on
> calls?
>  My understanding of this is that the screen goes dark on the phone,
> and the voice drops to a very low volume where one can't hear what's
> being said and  the volume cannot be modified.
> What are people's thoughts? Is it true? is it false? Can it slice,
> dice, and do the solja boy?
>
>
> Best,
> Darian
>
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From fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 04:43:31 2009
From: fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com (Franandah Damstra)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:43:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: Register for Bay Area Disability Seminar on
	International Exchange
In-Reply-To: <BE46D95FEF4C45E9B50D4655E77C5D19@DC4V3PD1>
References: <BE46D95FEF4C45E9B50D4655E77C5D19@DC4V3PD1>
Message-ID: <a7b0cbec0908132143s424ea08dq426d18dd8322b343@mail.gmail.com>

Man, this is what I ALWAYS wished to do! I signed up for an exchange
programme just this pass year, but they couldn't find a family who
would take in a Blind girl. I would love to go, but my parent's
wouldn't allow it and we live on the other side of the US. Is there
any way I could get the information and get into contact with these
people? My dream always has been to travel abroad and if it is indeed
possible, I would love to do it.
~Franandah

On 8/13/09, T. Audrey Medina <tmm326 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,Hi all,
>
> Thought I'd pass this along.  I don't think I've seen it on the list, but I
> apologize if it's a repeat.
>
> Best,
> Audrey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alisyn Henneck
> To: clearinghouse at miusa.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:13 AM
> Subject: Register for Bay Area Disability Seminar on International Exchange
>
>
> Dear Friends of Mobility International USA,
>
>
>
> Are you a U.S. citizen with a disability? Do you work with people with
> disabilities? Are you or they interested in international exchange? If so,
> we invite you to join us for our one day disability seminar in Berkeley, CA
> on October 30, 2009.  If you cannot attend, feel free to distribute this
> information to your U.S. colleagues, friends, and members and share on other
> listservs, websites and e-newsletters. A flyer to post in PDF or Rich Text
> Format can be downloaded online at:
> http://www.miusa.org/ncde/seminarbayarea. Registration is online now through
> October 16, 2009. Early registration is encouraged as this event is limited
> to 60 participants.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alisyn Henneck
>
> Mobility International USA
>
> ahenneck at miusa.org
>
>
>
>                     Please distribute this to your colleagues, friends, and
> members and share on listservs, websites and e-newsletters. A flyer in PDF
> or Rich Text format to post can also be downloaded online.
>
>
>
>                   Disability Community Seminar
>                   Accessing the World through International Exchange
>                   Berkeley, CA
>                   October 30, 2009
>
>
>                   U.S. citizens and residents with disabilities and
> representatives of U.S. disability organizations are invited to attend this
> one-day seminar and luncheon as we discuss the 'Who, What, Where and Why' of
> international exchange for U.S. students, teachers, professionals and others
> with disabilities:
>
>                     a.. Presenters with disabilities will share personal
> international exchange stories and talk about accommodation strategies for
> navigating abroad, what to bring, what to expect and more.
>                     b.. Participants will receive practical tools and
> resources on using VR and keeping SSI benefits, while also learning about
> scholarships available for international exchange.
>                     c.. Representatives of international exchange
> organizations will present about programs and scholarships, best practices
> and share from past exchange experiences.
>                   When:   Friday, October 30, 2009, 9:30am - 4:00pm
>                   Where:  Clark Kerr Campus, Garden Room
>                                 Dining Center--Building 10
>                                 2601 Warring Street
>                                 University of California, Berkeley
>                                 Berkeley, CA
>                   Cost:      $40* (includes lunch).
>                                 *Registrants may request a scholarship for a
>                                 reduced rate based on financial need.
>
>
>                   Wheelchair Accessible. Sign language interpreter,
> alternative formats and other disability-related accommodations provided
> upon request.
>
>                   For More Information and Registration, go to:
>                   www.miusa.org/ncde/seminarbayarea
>                   or
>                   contact MIUSA at:
>                   Email: clearinghouse at miusa.org
>                   Tel/TTY: (541) 343-1284
>
>                   Co-sponsored by Mobility International USA, the Bureau of
> Educational and Cultural Affairs of the U.S. Department of State, Bay Area
> Outreach Program (BORP), Center for Independent Living (CIL), Disability
> Rights Education Defense Fund (DREDF), Institute of International Education
> (IIE), San Francisco Mayor's Office on Disability, and University of
> California-Berkeley.
>
>
>                   Registration deadline: October 16, 2009 - Space limited to
> 60 participants, so register early!
>
>                   The National Clearinghouse on Disability and Exchange
> provides free information and referral services related to the participation
> of people with disabilities in international exchange programs. The
> Clearinghouse is sponsored by the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs
> of the U.S. Department of State, and is managed by Mobility International
> USA, which is celebrating its 28th year as a U.S.-based non-profit
> organization.
>
>                   Our mailing address is:
>
>                   Mobility International USA
>                   132 E. Broadway, Suite 343
>                   Eugene, Oregon 97401 USA
>
>                   Our telephone/tty:
>                   541-343-1284
>
>                   If you do not want to receive these press releases, please
> unsubscribe by emailing: clearinghouse at miusa.org.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 16:14:21 2009
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:14:21 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABSLink Under New Management
Message-ID: <D493A7210FC3402083C504502122CA27@Rufus>

Hello all,

NABSLink, the official site of the National Association of Blind Students,
is now under a new webmaster.  Juan Del Rosario, who also serves as
president of the Texas Association of Blind Students, will now be in charge
of updating and maintaining the website with the assistance of NABS Board
Member Meghan Whalen.

For work on the website up to this point I want to Thank Peter Donahue and
Angela Fowler for their technical assistance and editorial review.  I also
want to thank Terri Rupp for making it a point under her administration to
see the website a developed product.  No past NABS president cared enough
about the website to see it through its completion, and even though there is
still some work to be done on the site, I think anything that comes out of
it going forward will be owed to the wisdom of the NABS board of 2007-2009.

So here's to the upcoming phase of NABSLink, and may the results prove every
bit as exhilarating as it was to launch it.

Best,

The Website Team

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado
 

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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 19:02:44 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:02:44 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: Register for Bay Area Disability Seminar
	on	International Exchange
In-Reply-To: <a7b0cbec0908132143s424ea08dq426d18dd8322b343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BE46D95FEF4C45E9B50D4655E77C5D19@DC4V3PD1>
	<a7b0cbec0908132143s424ea08dq426d18dd8322b343@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090814190244.GB502@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Franandah,

If travel is a goal for you, then know that it is a goal within your 
reach.  Perhaps not this year, but it will happen because you will 
make it happen.  Perhaps as a student--or perhaps after you've 
finished school.  Maybe you'll convince the people around you that a 
blind person can travel the world independently.  Or maybe you'll 
travel on your own despite others' mistaken belief that you can't.

The point is that if you want it, and if you're willing to work for 
it, you can make it happen.  Know that you have the support of the 
National Association of Blind Students, and the whole of the National 
Federation of the Blind behind you.  We're not accustomed to giving 
up when someone tells us that we can't.  We ignore such people and 
get ourselves the results we need.

Joseph
Who has had his feet on the ground in nine states this summer...


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:43:31AM -0400, Franandah Damstra wrote:
>Man, this is what I ALWAYS wished to do! I signed up for an exchange
>programme just this pass year, but they couldn't find a family who
>would take in a Blind girl. I would love to go, but my parent's
>wouldn't allow it and we live on the other side of the US. Is there
>any way I could get the information and get into contact with these
>people? My dream always has been to travel abroad and if it is indeed
>possible, I would love to do it.
>~Franandah


From jennyflicka at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 15 06:25:57 2009
From: jennyflicka at yahoo.com (Jenny Lind)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] Focus 84 Braille display on EBay starting at $600
Message-ID: <248356.74822.qm@web45207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'm selling a Focus 84 in good condition because it's too big for my needs.  Bids start at $600 and it's also available to buy immediately for $1700.  It originally retailed for $10,595, so this is quite a bargain.  The auction ends in one day and nineteen hours.  If interested, please go to http://cgi.ebay.com/Focus-84-Braille-display_W0QQitemZ230365826329QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?has
h=item35a2df8d19&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14. Thanks!


      



From jennyflicka at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 15 06:41:06 2009
From: jennyflicka at yahoo.com (Jenny Lind)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:41:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] Focus 84, intact link
Message-ID: <417893.77767.qm@web45210.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sorry, the link in my first message got split into two lines.  Here's the whole thing, which will take you directly to the auction page: http://cgi.ebay.com/Focus-84-Braille-display_W0QQitemZ230365826329QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a2df8d19&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


      



From mewhalen at wisc.edu  Sat Aug 15 18:02:20 2009
From: mewhalen at wisc.edu (Meghan Whalen)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:02:20 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] OT: Mobilespeak
Message-ID: <8585A390216744B8B053AED3294A9D2F@Yoka>

I was just wondering if anyone is looking to sell a mobilespeak license?  I need ms smartphone.  Please email me off list at:
mewhalen at wisc.edu
if you might be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Meghan Whalen, President
Wisconsin Association of Blind Students
Wisconsin Association of Guide Dog Users

From pcs2001 at caa.columbia.edu  Sat Aug 15 18:52:54 2009
From: pcs2001 at caa.columbia.edu (Philip So)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:52:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello
Message-ID: <e55a62760908151152y117e99ecp732a8b751ab3fc22@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

My name is Philip So.  I just joined this list and would like to say a
East Coast hello to you.

A little about myself.  I lived outside Chicago briefly before coming
to the New York City / New Jersey  area.  I did my undergraduate
studies at Columbia University majoring in Economics.  After immersing
myself in the
world of marketing and consulting for a very short stint, I am now
going to return to school to do my Master's in a blind people and
policy related field.

Feel free to look for me on Facebook.

Nice meeting you all.

Best,
Philip
Email: pcs2001 at columbia.edu


From alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 20:29:52 2009
From: alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com (alena roberts)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:29:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello
In-Reply-To: <e55a62760908151152y117e99ecp732a8b751ab3fc22@mail.gmail.com>
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Nice to meet you and good luck with your studies.

-- 
Alena Roberts
Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/


From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 20:52:31 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:52:31 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello
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Hi Philip,

Greetings and welcome to the list. My name is Arielle Silverman and I
am the current president of the National Association of Blind
Students. I am also a second-year Ph.D. student in psychology at the
University of Colorado.

How did you find out about this list? Have you been involved in the
NFB locally at all?

Anyway, if you have any questions about anything student or
blindness-related, feel free to ask on-list. If you want to learn more
about NABS or find blind students in your area, you can write me
off-list at
nabs.president at gmail.com

Best,
Arielle

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Arielle Silverman
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Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 21:02:35 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:02:35 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Jernigan Institute News
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Imagineering Our Future

Issue 15

August 14, 2009

In this issue:

Message from the Executive Director
What's New
Education
Braille Initiative
Straight Talk About Vision Loss
Technology Talk
>From the Jacobus tenBroek Library
Independence Market
Parent Outreach
Spotlight on the Imagination Fund
NFB Calendar
Citation

Message from the Executive Director

Defining moments are often marked by unexpected events and the
reaction of those involved in the events.  On July 31 I stood at
the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C., as hundreds of blind
individuals gathered in front of the reflecting pool at the foot of
the memorial.  Hundreds of young blind people with high
aspirations for their future were surrounded by dozens of blind
mentors and other members of the National Federation of the Blind who
have worked vigorously to create opportunities for this emerging
generation.  Music greeted the crowd with messages of "I have a
dream," "Your story is yet unwritten," and "They say that the blind
cannot do science and we say, SLAM THAT!" As the group gathered the
wind picked up and the sky opened to a hefty downpour.  Yet the
assembled crowd, gathered to proclaim its dreams for the future and
the first class citizenship that the Federation has been fighting for
since 1940, did not let an unexpected rainstorm get them down.
Greeted by words from the White House delivered by Kareem Dale,
Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy, lifted by
NFB leaders Marc Maurer and Fred Schroeder, and given wings by the
inspiring story of Ever Lee Hairston and the collective singing of "We
Shall Overcome," the crowd bound tight together through wind and rain
to demonstrate that the determination and commitment of the next
generation is as strong as those that laid the foundation of the
Federation.

As the crowd turned east and marched down the National Mall, I could
not help think about how far we have come, how important our work is,
and how inspiring the future will be.  As we walked, cheers came
from all parts of the crowd, "Who are we . . . NFB," "We won't let
them get us down," "We are marching, a march for independence," and
dozens of other inspiring phrases.  About halfway to the United
States Capitol, some of the blind youth got the megaphone away from
the NFB leaders at the front of the procession and took lead on the
chants.

The end point for the march was the new Capitol Visitor Center.
Representative Steny Hoyer greeted the crown and drove home how
important it is for the blind to believe in themselves and each other
when getting the crowd to repeat, "If it is to be, it is up to me."
NASA administrators then presented Dr. Maurer with the Louis Braille
coins that flew on the STS-125 shuttle mission.  As Dr. Maurer
noted in the National Convention presentation Journey of Braille: From
the Hands of the Creator to Earth Orbit , these coins are symbolic of
our progress and the opportunities ahead.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=gYUl-Py88N5wPuzqCq0H0A..

This summer I marched with dozens of young blind people and I heard
from them how much trouble they have in the education system.
The sale of all 400,000 Louis Braille coins by December 31 is one step
in creating opportunities that will eliminate many of those
problems.  I now have a deeper appreciation for the words Martin
Luther King Jr. spoken at the memorial because I too have a
dream.  A dream that one day we will overcome the injustice in
the education system and the societal stereotypes that prevent the
blind from full participation in our communities.  I feel truly
blessed that, on July 31, I was able to be part of an historic step
toward the realization of that dream--blind youth and their blind
mentors facing adversity, taking responsibility for their future, and
marching forward with hope and faith.  That is both the dream and
the reality that serves as the foundation for the National Federation
of the Blind Jernigan Institute.

Graphic: Signature of Mark Riccobono

Mark A. Riccobono, Executive Director, NFB Jernigan Institute

Featured NFB News

Blind Driver Challenge makes cover of the Washington Post

Blind Driver Challenge makes cover of the Washington Post
We've reported in the past about NFB's encouragement of
the development of a car that blind people can
drive. Engineers from Virginia Tech who took on the Blind Driver
Challenge brought their prototype vehicle to the Youth Slam, and on
the last day of the Slam, Blind Driver Track participants got
behind the wheel.  Resulting press was overwhelmingly positive
and encouraging.  More stories are still being posted, but a
most exciting piece was published in the Washington Post on August 1,
as Youth Slam participants were traveling home.  The
cover article, above the fold, proclaimed that  "Blind
Drivers Plot Their Own Course" and included a color photograph of one
exuberant sixteen-year-old blind first-time driver.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=oOQqP5f0ZsCxhCGJBbVZQQ..

WashingtonPost.com's article was accompanied by a video and photo
gallery. Just some of the other notable coverage came
from the Discovery Channel, the

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=SAA79qDOwMs2YtiiVH2h4g..

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=un7cllhUX7ToAkvyzm-N0g..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=exdDaNe_CR12z_nWD9LbcQ..

New York Times

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=3VQ65cVIAUVfTQbsfGn9wA..

, and ABC News. Dozens more blogs, videos, and print
media reports stimulated comments, tweets, and offers to
help.  It's a great first step toward changing public
perceptions that motoring independence is
impossible. Someday the blind will drive.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=znKCpG3kjMhL646maHqjgw..

Education

National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam

>From July 26 to August 1, two hundred blind youth from across the
nation gathered in College Park, Maryland, to learn about science,
technology, engineering, and math at the National Federation of the
Blind 2009 Youth Slam.  This program was designed to engage,
inspire, and encourage the next generation of blind youth to consider
careers that are falsely perceived as impossible for the
blind.  The students were mentored by blind role models for
academic and social activities.

Youth Slam bull rider

Youth Slammer rides mechanical bull

In the daytime program, students and mentors traveled across the large
University of Maryland campus to participate in hands-on classes in
their chosen "track" of study and other short sessions on
blindness.  During the evenings, they participated in social
activities such as a dance, a sports night, a talent show, and an
extreme recreational activities night that featured rock
climbing, bungee jumping, and mechanical bull riding. They
visited the headquarters of the National Federation of the Blind in
Baltimore for a press conference on the Braille literacy
crisis.  While at the National Center for the Blind, they
had the opportunity to see the International Braille and Technology
Center and to visit an exhibit hall that displayed cutting edge
technology for the blind. The Youth Slam concluded with a rally
at the Lincoln Memorial (punctuated by an exhilarating
rainstorm!) and a Youth March for Independence on the National
Mall in Washington, D.C.

The Youth Slam's closing ceremony was held at the United
States Capitol Visitor Center, in the new Congressional
Auditorium.  National Federation of the Blind leaders, NASA
astronaut Gregory H. Johnson, and Congressman Steny Hoyer gave
inspirational speeches. Students were also involved in the
presentations--Caitlin Kasalo, who sang the National Anthem
to kick off the ceremony, and student reporters Derrick Tuff and
Kayla Weathers.  The Youth Slam could be followed on Twitter,
and ongoing blog and podcast coverage
was posted on
blindscience.org
 by the Youth Slam News
Track.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=fz0Ky18fEh9Yc9BwFAOgQA..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=xImt3WnQrkd5sMeAfml1Wg..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=C_dCvpARS2-GNSTxRVWrHg..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=bswZpRvNHgxaFBSumcQcqg..

Throughout the week of fun and challenging activities, students grew
in confidence and science literacy and began to set goals
for a new future. These students are now a part of the mission to
change what it means to be blind.

Summer BELL Ringers!!

The NFB Jernigan Institute is just concluding its 2009 Braille
Enrichment for Literacy and Learning (BELL) summer program.  The
objective of this two-state pilot program was to promote Braille
literacy through two weeks of exciting hands-on activities
and instruction to low-vision children, who otherwise do not
have access to Braille. The BELL program provided us some
bell-ringing moments in that we gained some valuable knowledge and
exposed more children to Braille and positive attitudes about
blindness.

The BELL Core Team included three certified teachers of the blind:
Jacqueline Otwell (Maryland Public Schools), Natalie Shaheen (Indiana
School for the Blind), and Paul Howard (Indiana Public
Schools). The team spent a couple of weeks working at the
National Center on "packaging" the lesson plans and
activities with the intent that a ready-made program can be
offered to states in the future. Following this, the team
traveled to Georgia for two weeks instructing children in the
Atlanta area.  After a brief stint at the NFB Youth Slam, the
team began the second program in Maryland for students from the
Baltimore area.

In both pilot states, children attended field trips to local
libraries, participated in Braille learning centers with hands-on
activities to teach skills of tracking and contraction recognition,
participated in Braille-related scavenger hunts, and were read to each
day by positive Braille reading adults.

The BELL program is a great way to get Braille instruction to
students who otherwise are not receiving this instruction.  We
encourage states interested in organizing such a program next
summer to contact the Education team at the NFB Jernigan
Institute to learn more.
mthorpe at nfb.org

Braille Initiative

In a recent e-mail, Dr. Maurer poses the question, "How many
children in America are not taught to read?"  His message
continues:

The answer is 90 percent if the children are blind.  Most
Americans are shocked to hear this statistic.  And we should
be.  The blind read and write using Braille, so why is our
educational system failing to teach Braille to so many children?
Why are these children being denied the opportunities that come with a
proper education?  What if you could not read and write?
Where would you be today?

There are three primary reasons for this educational crisis: (1) there
are not enough Braille teachers, (2) some teachers of blind children
have not received enough training, and (3) many educators do not think
Braille instruction is even necessary.

To bring critically-needed attention to this educational crisis, the
United States Congress authorized the minting of the 2009 Louis
Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar with a portion of the sale of each
coin going toward a revolutionary and comprehensive Braille literacy
campaign.

Learning to read and write is fundamental to education, which in turn
is paramount to full and equal participation in American
society.  This coin, the first U.S. coin to have proper tactile
Braille, symbolizes independence, opportunity, and the potential of
blind people to make significant contributions to society when they
are taught to read and write using Braille.  To learn more, read
our report The Braille Literacy Crisis in America

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=mkVMxgOYY-1LpMx5Ui84rg..

or watch our video Making Change with a Dollar

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=_l3SzZwFN_Fa9Bz9TrjnzA..

.

Please purchase this unique and beautiful coin now

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Vlyjc1iryEVnvCLc-e6njw..

and help solve this educational crisis for blind children in
America.

The law authorizing this 2009 silver dollar requires that any coins
not sold by midnight on December 31, 2009, be melted down.  Time
is of the essence--a 90 percent illiteracy rate is not acceptable
and the opportunity to purchase this coin will soon be gone.

Be part of the solution. Give the gift of literacy. Create new
opportunities.  Buy the Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=XdpclzH6ZO8rhoMd0B88Pw..

today.

Marc Maurer, President
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

Dr. Maurer knows that the Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver
Dollar is a symbol of hope for the future. The National
Federation of the Blind will use the proceeds from sales
of these limited-edition coins to advance Braille literacy in the
United States. Every coin sold reminds us that through our
efforts another life will be changed, another Braille book will be
made available, another teacher will receive quality Braille
instruction.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=LKz2QTWryvxdy2Gmyt4fmA..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=fofUyWpaSjifuNe4jieqZw..

Please continue to support our efforts by sharing information about
the coin with everyone you meet. You never know who you might inspire
to join us in our effort to make change with a dollar and finally put
an end to the Braille literacy crisis.

For more information about Braille, the 2009 Louis Braille
Bicentennial Silver Dollar, and the NFB's other Braille literacy
efforts, please visit Braille.org, join the literacy campaign mailing
list, and follow Braille Literacy on Twitter.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=VYBVlbW03xbFEGnm4-LFjA..

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Mj9_7-CF_aCqLeamPbIHPw..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=0HhKJMNJJ1WRUVW-oDl_EQ..

Straight Talk About Vision Loss

Dr. Maurer delivers 2009 banquet address

Photo: Dr. Maurer delivers 2009 banquet address

The NFB Jernigan Institute, under the National Center for
Mentoring Excellence (NCME) project, has produced a 13-minute DVD
entitled
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=9XAJt-F7Q_SAMiSuuL3wWQ..

Walking the Walk: The NFB Mentorship Advantage. This video
highlights the mentoring programs in six states and illustrates how
blind mentors have impacted the lives of blind youth ages 16-26. The
NFB Jernigan Institute invites our Straight Talk About Vision Loss
fans to review the new video and learn more about the
NCME on the NFB's Mentoring home page.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=bUwyFf_4AYTCrhRSC8Cc9g..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=TRWEJk2yI0EkhLJcejbO6w..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=L8DwAphgns_r0YTIRYwGrQ..

You will also enjoy the video of Dr. Maurer's banquet speech at this
year's national convention, The Value of Decision.  Plus, you
can now hear audio of 2009 convention highlights on the NFB site,
including Mark Riccobono's "From the Center of History" report to the
convention on the Jernigan Institute's fifth anniversary.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=UknySvTT6EvY5DI-WcmRRQ..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=sd7D66LPp4PQsDiManmqNg..

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Akwy3qOue4Fr2FjrFtpvvQ..

Product and Access Technology Talk

It's been a busy time for the Access Technology team here at the
NFB Jernigan Institute. There was the Access Technology seminar at the
National Convention in Detroit, and then during Youth Slam the team
did its bit with tours and sessions--you can expect further
updates on that on the AT blog.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=OyrvgVXShy8G-mfgTUEEeA..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=lLwVL7jeY1HW7EYtJDqE2w..

On another topic, the team has been working away at finalizing the
agenda for the Web Accessibility Training Day on September 22. The
National Federation of the Blind and the Maryland Technology
Assistance Program, with sponsorship from the Maryland Department of
Information Technology, will be hosting the event, the first of its
kind in Maryland, at the NFB Jernigan Institute. The sessions will
highlight strategies for achieving Web accessibility in a government
or nonprofit setting.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=OzdXGmltExtQ3KrTdWgs6Q..

The registration fee for this daylong training focusing on all aspects
of Web accessibility and compliance with Maryland laws and regulations
is $80, including a box lunch. Our keynote speaker is Shawn Lawton
Henry from the World Wide Web Consortium, and the line-up includes
speakers from every part of the industry, including Oracle, Adobe, AOL
and Deque. For the agenda and for more information please visit the
Web Accessibility Training Day page.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=n7kmbWgqrscIGECN9VWkIQ..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=8jhbg6ToX2IVif-UAU2U_A..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=YEGe0X_yKIWtjupT51QcIg..

One company which takes nonvisual Web accessibility to heart is
Newegg, which just recently became the first e-tailer to come
under NFB Nonvisual Accessibility Web Certification. Newegg, as
one of the largest online retailers, sets the industry standard and
shows that accessibility is a benefit. For more information please
visit the press release or the article on
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=NyQf6OZ6JLtwirtsO6aWHg..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=V8heBf-bg2EcS1G_oslFIw..

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zH8ImHholhJ4wFsUjR4b6Q..

Internet Retailer.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=tgAqirVIo_k7iIJTbo-iBw..

The fall only gets busier, with presentations on DAISY production and
cell phone accessibility at the Assistive Technology Industry
Association conference in Chicago in October 2009. In November, the
team will present to a variety of higher education accessibility
specialists at the Accessing Higher Ground conference in Denver,
Colorado, along with Blackboard and Deque Systems, on the work being
done to make Blackboard Learn? fully accessible.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Ip3lURFl9hfhCk8_HRauQg..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=l1AHWcZQQdKjL8L5_RBvcg..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=UTxKXHDMNTU5AYxQ63fZPA..
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=lvD6o9V0G6mOxGKZw3MOZg..

In its copious free time, the team also shared some experiences with
the newly-accessible iPhone on the blog; after all, who can resist a
nifty new phone?

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=BjEVwkReS8V6eSYS1I2bwA..

>From the tenBroek Library

Photo: Jacobus tenBroek Library entrance

The tenBroek Library documents the accomplishments of the blind
throughout history as well as obstacles to their progress.  We
are therefore actively collecting biographies of blind people,
histories of the blind, and older books on blindness and the
blind.  Once we announce the public launch of our online public
access catalog (which will happen before the next issue of
Imagineering), Federationists and others will have direct access to
the growing historical resources of our collection.  Meanwhile,
we are already hard at work on the two important historical projects
funded by a grant the NFB Jernigan Institute recently won
from the National Historical Publications and Records Commission, a
division of the United States National Archives.  The goal of
these projects is to make material in the Jacobus tenBroek Papers and
the NFB Archives easily searchable and accessible.

While we work at making of the tenBroek Library an increasingly
valuable resource for historians of blindness, we also want readers of
Imagineering to keep in mind that the Federation has published a
number of historical articles, many of which are already available
online.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=1bN9fifP3IQNpFkk_7y80g..

And speaking of history, have you yet obtained your free copy of the
CD of Louis Braille's 1829 book?  With this CD, the
tenBroek Library is making Louis Braille's revolutionary
explanation of the Braille code generally available for the first time
in history.  The CD contains page images of the book, a
transcription of the French text, and a translation into
English.  You can request a copy with an e-mail to
jtblibrary at nfb.org
. Make sure to include a mailing address.

Independence Market

Little girl doing homework on a Brailler

Little girl doing homework on Brailler

It is time for the NFB Independence Market "back to school"
sale.  Students of all ages may find some of the following items
of use in their academic studies and extracurricular activities:
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=RwKK9tkueEE1H85rkkwgDw..

Personal Management

1. A white cane gives a blind person independence to move
around the home and school environment.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=cgwWtGOmsFxBc9V0uHMH9A..

2. A Braille or talking compass aids navigation.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=k8z9n5IoDzA1rVfLMFr2tA..

3. An accessible watch or clock helps you to get to class on
time.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=DueOgVF2k9UYMP9Ea-Pkww..

4. Accessible locks keep your items secure when using a locker at
school or the gym.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=05tSJLTmEQ3rAeeRoSs7QA..

5. Most students have several devices which use batteries. Distinguish
between discharged and new ones with a battery tester.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=DoLv_u0gyy4VUtp3mVwEWw..

6. Handheld magnifiers ranging from 5X to 14X are available in the
Independence Market.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=V9oV9vIyQtkmKHQP9fsqTQ..

Study Aids

1. Do basic math functions with a calculator or abacus.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=VzJdL7cdvrWe5EEueZ6Kbg..

2. Listen to books and record classes.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=rQlw7JrTEx87vxiIH2YXVw..

3. Take notes in class using 20/20 pens, dark lined writing
paper, writing guides, slates and styluses, and Braille paper.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=jT25-8ObiN865XN3sZP_8A..

4. Make Braille labels to get organized.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=GofI_IP2jrCEeH7Ka8hhJQ..

For more ideas, check out the Independence Market online or contact us
for a catalog.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=a8KMtvtaQo_hK3zJOfJwgg..
independencemarket at nfb.org

Parent Outreach

Photo: Braille Book Flea Market

Carol Castellano, president of the National Organization of
Parents of Blind Children, spoke to the National
Convention's general session on Wednesday afternoon on the topic
"Why Are You Trying to Make that Child Blind?"  This and the
following other convention audio items will be of particular interest
to parents of blind children:

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=NvfEhyahXTpdMVJpHEvwOA..

Spotlight on the Imagination Fund

As we culminate our yearlong Imagination Fund efforts, we want to say
thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for all of the talent,
treasure, and especially time that you have put into our 2008-2009
National Federation of the Blind (NFB) Imagination Fund campaign. To
date, the NFB Imagination Fund has distributed over $635,720 to NFB
affiliates, with an equal distribution going to support the work of
our NFB Jernigan Institute, and this year's NFB Imagination Funds
will come out to state affiliates soon.

A special note to state affiliates and divisions--A quarter
of the funds raised during this year's campaign will be
used to provide grants for local innovative projects that will
further our mission in ways such as building the NFB state affiliates
and divisions, reaching out to blind people and their families,
educating the general public about the capabilities of the blind, and
developing members into significant leaders of our
movement. Special consideration will be given to proposals that
advance our Braille literacy initiative.  For more
information regarding the grant application process, please contact
the president of your affiliate or division soon, as the deadline to
submit applications is September 14, 2009.

The 2009-2010 campaign officially began on August 1, 2009.  Late
summer and early fall will be a time of great planning and
development.  As Federationists, we will have many goals; we will
raise the bar. Stay tuned for updates in the coming
months--whether we walk, run, or fly, we will be doing it to
raise awareness about our independent spirit and to raise monies to
support our initiatives.  As always, staff at the National Center
will be available for questions, ideas, and suggestions.
kbowman at nfb.org

The Imagination Fund provides support for the outreach efforts of
local Federation chapters and affiliates throughout the United States
as well as the research, technology, and education programs and
initiatives of the NFB Jernigan Institute. The

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=gkjPnwMpwvWafg4cMyuiTA..

Imagination Fund was established January 2004 with the Grand Opening
of our NFB research and training institute.

NFB Calendar

Photo: Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar

2009  Year of Louis Braille's Bicentennial, launch of the
first United States coin containing readable Braille, and kickoff
of the NFB Braille Literacy Campaign. Contact the
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=NjQamSsFAK9mJK52GYqqtw..

U.S. Mint to purchase your own Louis Braille Bicentennial
Silver Dollar.

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=T7oO5YpPteO4jHcV_e6cNg..

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=UMpmUVTN6i2UoVJ55uoEpw..

August 3-14, 2009  Braille Enrichment for Literacy and Learning
(BELL) program in Maryland.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=AQGHLFI2eZG-EZv_E4pYKw..

August 14-16, 2009  Texas CHANGE (Connections Helping Another
Navigate and Gain Excellence) Mentoring Program mentoring wrap-up
event at Port Royal Resort, Corpus Christi, Texas.

August 22, 2009  GEMS (Georgians Empowered through Mentoring
Success) mentoring celebration outdoor event at a farm in North
Georgia.

August 28, 2009  Deadline to submit your Braille story
to Letters to President Obama.  Learn more by visiting
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=AEQ4V46sgzr0EcY1oWs6dg.. .
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=4yJXCGdFVZSawOZ7ymWubw..

September 4-6, 2009  Labor Day leadership seminar at the NFB.

September 14, 2009  Deadline to submit NFB Imagination Fund
grant proposals. For more information, contact
kbowman at nfb.org.

September 15-17, 2009  Research in the Rockies Symposium at the
NFB Jernigan Institute.

September 22, 2009  Web Accessibility Day at the NFB Jernigan
Institute.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=bSBUB1jN6D5DOTfanfqsgA..

October 2009 Meet the Blind Month.

Citation

Many who have not received quality instruction in Braille can tell
compelling stories of missed opportunities and difficulties at school
or on the job arising from their lack of Braille. Others who have
experienced a full education in Braille can tell stirring success
stories of the way literacy has changed their lives and helped them to
participate fully in society. Our goal is to collect these
stories--the inspiring and the compelling, the positive and the
negative--and compile them into a book about Braille literacy.
>From the submissions we receive we will select one hundred of the most
powerful stories for our book, and the author of each chosen
testimonial will receive a free Louis Braille commemorative silver
dollar.

If you have been educated in Braille either in school or through a
rehabilitation agency and you lead a productive life because of this
knowledge, or if you have been denied Braille instruction at any point
and you believe your life has been affected by the struggles you have
faced in becoming literate in Braille, the world needs to hear your
story. If you are a parent or teacher who has seen the positive effect
Braille can have on your children or students, your story needs to be
told.

On October 1, the first day of Meet the Blind Month, we will present
our collected stories to President Barack Obama, demonstrating through
our own voices the power of Braille literacy for all blind Americans.
We will share our hopes and dreams with him; we will tell him about
the struggles we have faced in becoming literate and the success that
has come from our knowing Braille. Through our personal stories we
will show him that Braille provides independence to blind people and
makes us free....

By reaching out to the highest office in the United States, we can
teach President Obama about the critical link between Braille and
independence. If we can enlist his leadership, we can insure a
brighter future for Braille literacy.

We need your help in sending this message. To add your story to our
collection, please send it by August 28 in print or Braille to Letters
to President Obama, c/o National Federation of the Blind, 1800 Johnson
Street, Baltimore, Maryland 21230. Be sure to include your full name,
address, phone number, and email address if you have one. You can also
submit your story online by visiting
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=KPB7IbB9cOt1gbgBWAlfCg..
and
clicking the link entitled Letters to President Obama.
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=MI6Er462yQ5mt5Gouyy0vw..

--Fredric K. Schroeder, "Dear Mr. President,"

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zFTA3PqWbkMHQRQkb--Yxg..

Braille Monitor, July 2009

I've always wondered why they include braille numbers on
drive-up ATM machines. Now I know.
--Comment

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=nCLY3_tdrGguCt1fD-uaDQ..

to New York Times article on the Blind Driver
Challenge, "Helping Blind Drivers Take the Wheel," August 5, 2009

http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=RJwP8nHeCruiDCNDr54HQw..

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Our Future.

Mentor Trevor Attenberg leads campers along the nature trail

Photo: Group on white water raft

Support the Jernigan Institute through the Imagination Fund
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zfYcU8rx507NURhm2NdqTg..

Photo: Young woman playing flute

Interesting links:

Archive of Straight Talk about Vision Loss videos
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zfVezWHYYRKcA-Dk106w5A..

National Center for Blind Youth in Science
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=BcvRGNhPuDxXjzMGoTZ35g..

Access Technology Tips
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=d-UCHwb5ubJt5abofylytg..

Photo: Youth practicing martial art

Blogs:

Access Technology
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=40PInOROxMhmy8xu5AV-6g..

Voice of the Nation's Blind
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=NyxtXGM-OD2tlG773x0C8A..

Photo: Senior couple

Publication archives:

Voice of the Diabetic
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=SnZlOidWeWqVwzjTP6aT6g..

Future Reflections
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=KkquHcv_C3dEuvN2r9cDJQ..

Braille Monitor
http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=K9onxM0DV1eCrDFfMdwfvA..

Photo: Mom and son take a moment and a hug

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Visit us at
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Photo: Blind little girl with cane

Photo: Blind youth reading Braille book

Photo: Blind girl examining model of constellations

Photo: Blind boy with tactile globe

Blind Teens Carry the 2007 Youth March for Independence Banner

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Imagineering Our Future

      Issue 15
August 14, 2009




In this issue:

    * Message from the Executive Director
    * What's New
    * Education
    * Braille Initiative
    * Straight Talk About Vision Loss
    * Technology Talk
    * From the Jacobus tenBroek Library
    * Independence Market
    * Parent Outreach
    * Spotlight on the Imagination Fund
    * NFB Calendar
    * Citation



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    Message from the Executive Director

    Defining moments are often marked by 
unexpected events and the reaction of those 
involved in the events.  On July 31 I stood at 
the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C., as 
hundreds of blind individuals gathered in front 
of the reflecting pool at the foot of the 
memorial.  Hundreds of young blind people with 
high aspirations for their future were surrounded 
by dozens of blind mentors and other members of 
the National Federation of the Blind who have 
worked vigorously to create opportunities for 
this emerging generation.  Music greeted the 
crowd with messages of “I have a dream,” “Your 
story is yet unwritten,” and “They say that the 
blind cannot do science and we say, SLAM THAT!” 
As the group gathered the wind picked up and the 
sky opened to a hefty downpour.  Yet the 
assembled crowd, gathered to proclaim its dreams 
for the future and the first class citizenship 
that the Federation has been fighting for since 
1940, did not let an unexpected rainstorm get 
them down.  Greeted by words from the White House 
delivered by Kareem Dale, Special Assistant to 
the President for Disability Policy, lifted by 
NFB leaders Marc Maurer and Fred Schroeder, and 
given wings by the inspiring story of Ever Lee 
Hairston and the collective singing of “We Shall 
Overcome,” the crowd bound tight together through 
wind and rain to demonstrate that the 
determination and commitment of the next 
generation is as strong as those that laid the foundation of the Federation.

    As the crowd turned east and marched down the 
National Mall, I could not help think about how 
far we have come, how important our work is, and 
how inspiring the future will be.  As we walked, 
cheers came from all parts of the crowd, “Who are 
we . . . NFB,” “We won't let them get us down,” 
“We are marching, a march for independence,” and 
dozens of other inspiring phrases.  About halfway 
to the United States Capitol, some of the blind 
youth got the megaphone away from the NFB leaders 
at the front of the procession and took lead on the chants.

    The end point for the march was the new 
Capitol Visitor Center.  Representative Steny 
Hoyer greeted the crown and drove home how 
important it is for the blind to believe in 
themselves and each other when getting the crowd 
to repeat, “If it is to be, it is up to me.” NASA 
administrators then presented Dr. Maurer with the 
Louis Braille coins that flew on the STS-125 
shuttle mission.  As Dr. Maurer noted in the 
National Convention presentation 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=jbCrXSYoAKF_K48vGAVn5Q..>Journey 
of Braille: From the Hands of the Creator to 
Earth Orbit, these coins are symbolic of our 
progress and the opportunities ahead.

    This summer I marched with dozens of young 
blind people and I heard from them how much 
trouble they have in the education system.  The 
sale of all 400,000 Louis Braille coins by 
December 31 is one step in creating opportunities 
that will eliminate many of those problems.  I 
now have a deeper appreciation for the words 
Martin Luther King Jr. spoken at the memorial 
because I too have a dream.  A dream that one day 
we will overcome the injustice in the education 
system and the societal stereotypes that prevent 
the blind from full participation in our 
communities.  I feel truly blessed that, on July 
31, I was able to be part of an historic step 
toward the realization of that dream­blind youth 
and their blind mentors facing adversity, taking 
responsibility for their future, and marching 
forward with hope and faith.  That is both the 
dream and the reality that serves as the 
foundation for the National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute.

    Graphic: Signature of Mark Riccobono

    Mark A. Riccobono, Executive Director, NFB Jernigan Institute



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Featured NFB News

Blind Driver Challenge makes cover of the Washington Post
Blind Driver Challenge makes cover of the Washington Post

We've reported in the past about NFB's 
encouragement of the development of a car that 
blind people can drive. Engineers from Virginia 
Tech who took on the Blind Driver Challenge 
brought their prototype vehicle to the Youth 
Slam, and on the last day of the Slam, Blind 
Driver Track participants got behind the 
wheel.  Resulting press was overwhelmingly 
positive and encouraging.  More stories are still 
being posted, but a most exciting piece was 
published in the Washington Post on August 1, as 
Youth Slam participants were traveling home.  The 
cover article, above the fold, proclaimed 
that 
“<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=yQGjGU15MN7W_lETprv93g..>Blind 
Drivers Plot Their Own Course” and included a 
color photograph of one exuberant 
sixteen-year-old blind first-time driver. 
WashingtonPost.com's article was accompanied by a 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=F20vxZ3qxBwTPUWLgtYbEA..>video 
and 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=CPvXnK513cIu_5Ujt2l-3Q..>photo 
gallery. Just some of the other notable coverage 
came from the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Oda27uYYypZqed-UHm3Vkw..>Discovery 
Channel, the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=2E2ucv1cS6DZMGnWGAnDuw..>New 
York Times, and 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=CqxJXIB-mnPhYJfN7TkY5A..>ABC 
News. Dozens more blogs, videos, and print media 
reports stimulated comments, tweets, and offers 
to help.  It's a great first step toward changing 
public perceptions that motoring independence is 
impossible. Someday the blind will drive.


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Education




National Federation of the Blind Youth Slam

 From July 26 to August 1, two hundred blind 
youth from across the nation gathered in College 
Park, Maryland, to learn about science, 
technology, engineering, and math at the National 
Federation of the Blind 2009 Youth Slam.  This 
program was designed to engage, inspire, and 
encourage the next generation of blind youth to 
consider careers that are falsely perceived as 
impossible for the blind.  The students were 
mentored by blind role models for academic and social activities.

Youth Slam bull rider
Youth Slammer rides mechanical bull


In the daytime program, students and mentors 
traveled across the large University of Maryland 
campus to participate in hands-on classes in 
their chosen “track” of study and other short 
sessions on blindness.  During the evenings, they 
participated in social activities such as a 
dance, a sports night, a talent show, and an 
extreme recreational activities night that 
featured rock climbing, bungee jumping, and 
mechanical bull riding. They visited the 
headquarters of the National Federation of the 
Blind in Baltimore for a press conference on the 
Braille literacy crisis.  While at the National 
Center for the Blind, they had the opportunity to 
see the International Braille and Technology 
Center and to visit an exhibit hall that 
displayed cutting edge technology for the blind. 
The Youth Slam concluded with a rally at the 
Lincoln Memorial (punctuated by an exhilarating 
rainstorm!) and a Youth March for Independence on 
the National Mall in Washington, D.C.

The Youth Slam’s closing ceremony was held at the 
United States Capitol Visitor Center, in the new 
Congressional Auditorium.  National Federation of 
the Blind leaders, NASA astronaut Gregory H. 
Johnson, and Congressman Steny Hoyer gave 
inspirational speeches. Students were also 
involved in the presentations­Caitlin Kasalo, who 
sang the National Anthem to kick off the 
ceremony, and student reporters Derrick Tuff and 
Kayla Weathers.  The Youth Slam could be followed 
on 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=TTF7r7SLTVEhr0GNCMlVHQ..>Twitter, 
and ongoing 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=sPOOP-5kGfncEX5woX4orA..>blog 
and 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=MQyEdFe763G9bcezOGxBoA..>podcast 
coverage was posted on 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=MqhF1PAN5e56kOwrskLaCw..>blindscience.org 
by the Youth Slam News Track.

Throughout the week of fun and challenging 
activities, students grew in confidence and 
science literacy and began to set goals for a new 
future. These students are now a part of the 
mission to change what it means to be blind.


Summer BELL Ringers!!

The NFB Jernigan Institute is just concluding its 
2009 Braille Enrichment for Literacy and Learning 
(BELL) summer program.  The objective of this 
two-state pilot program was to promote Braille 
literacy through two weeks of exciting hands-on 
activities and instruction to low-vision 
children, who otherwise do not have access to 
Braille. The BELL program provided us some 
bell-ringing moments in that we gained some 
valuable knowledge and exposed more children to 
Braille and positive attitudes about blindness.

The BELL Core Team included three certified 
teachers of the blind: Jacqueline Otwell 
(Maryland Public Schools), Natalie Shaheen 
(Indiana School for the Blind), and Paul Howard 
(Indiana Public Schools). The team spent a couple 
of weeks working at the National Center on 
“packaging” the lesson plans and activities with 
the intent that a ready-made program can be 
offered to states in the future. Following this, 
the team traveled to Georgia for two weeks 
instructing children in the Atlanta area.  After 
a brief stint at the NFB Youth Slam, the team 
began the second program in Maryland for students from the Baltimore area.

In both pilot states, children attended field 
trips to local libraries, participated in Braille 
learning centers with hands-on activities to 
teach skills of tracking and contraction 
recognition, participated in Braille-related 
scavenger hunts, and were read to each day by 
positive Braille reading adults.

The BELL program is a great way to get Braille 
instruction to students who otherwise are not 
receiving this instruction.  We encourage states 
interested in organizing such a program next 
summer to contact the 
<mailto:mthorpe at nfb.org>Education team at the NFB 
Jernigan Institute to learn more.


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Braille Initiative

In a recent e-mail, Dr. Maurer poses the 
question, “How many children in America are not 
taught to read?”  His message continues:

The answer is 90 percent if the children are 
blind.  Most Americans are shocked to hear this 
statistic.  And we should be.  The blind read and 
write using Braille, so why is our educational 
system failing to teach Braille to so many 
children?  Why are these children being denied 
the opportunities that come with a proper 
education?  What if you could not read and write?  Where would you be today?

There are three primary reasons for this 
educational crisis: (1) there are not enough 
Braille teachers, (2) some teachers of blind 
children have not received enough training, and 
(3) many educators do not think Braille instruction is even necessary.

To bring critically-needed attention to this 
educational crisis, the United States Congress 
authorized the minting of the 2009 Louis Braille 
Bicentennial Silver Dollar with a portion of the 
sale of each coin going toward a revolutionary 
and comprehensive Braille literacy campaign.

Learning to read and write is fundamental to 
education, which in turn is paramount to full and 
equal participation in American society.  This 
coin, the first U.S. coin to have proper tactile 
Braille, symbolizes independence, opportunity, 
and the potential of blind people to make 
significant contributions to society when they 
are taught to read and write using Braille.  To 
learn more, read our report 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=OFUOU6jywXdVeLi6q9c5Gg..>The 
Braille Literacy Crisis in America or watch our 
video 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=ww98APNvubLLrY5wdp3vTA..>Making 
Change with a Dollar.

Please 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=4InI9DjgV8wNv-SjkTd76Q..>purchase 
this unique and beautiful coin now and help solve 
this educational crisis for blind children in America.

The law authorizing this 2009 silver dollar 
requires that any coins not sold by midnight on 
December 31, 2009, be melted down.  Time is of 
the essence­a 90 percent illiteracy rate is not 
acceptable and the opportunity to purchase this coin will soon be gone.

Be part of the solution. Give the gift of 
literacy. Create new 
opportunities. 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=g3wvdMhxO_AuFQq2w7TqOQ..>Buy 
the Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar today.

Marc Maurer, President
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

Dr. Maurer knows that the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=0fiDuACPYfW16FuTNwvFpw..>Louis 
Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar is a symbol of 
hope for the future. The National Federation of 
the Blind will use the proceeds from sales of 
these limited-edition coins to advance 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=9_NTeLGX2fmEnBr0CzVU-Q..>Braille 
literacy in the United States. Every coin sold 
reminds us that through our efforts another life 
will be changed, another Braille book will be 
made available, another teacher will receive quality Braille instruction.

Please continue to support our efforts by sharing 
information about the coin with everyone you 
meet. You never know who you might inspire to 
join us in our effort to make change with a 
dollar and finally put an end to the Braille literacy crisis.

For more information about Braille, the 2009 
Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar, and the 
NFB's other Braille literacy efforts, please 
visit 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=xx06hitmpnJXOAJsysc78g..>Braille.org, 
join the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=O5CJdftf6BWin4rfVpCzXA..>literacy 
campaign mailing list, and follow Braille 
Literacy on 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=DqDLa00ZQbt9Kl4FOhQv9w..>Twitter. 



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Straight Talk About Vision Loss

Dr. Maurer delivers 2009 banquet address
Photo: Dr. Maurer delivers 2009 banquet address


The NFB Jernigan Institute, under the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Tr-7rGbuUOFLQUUM0sGeFA..>National 
Center for Mentoring Excellence (NCME) project, 
has produced a 13-minute DVD entitled 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=u4ZxtM1LIo9kzpDhfm0y7A..>Walking 
the Walk: The NFB Mentorship Advantage. This 
video highlights the mentoring programs in six 
states and illustrates how blind mentors have 
impacted the lives of blind youth ages 16-26. The 
NFB Jernigan Institute invites our 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=6DlJETzJqlePNpGBafHwVg..>Straight 
Talk About Vision Loss fans to review the new 
video and learn more about the NCME on the NFB's 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zEZvTBKNT5lkFlj0HJbipA..>Mentoring 
home page.

You will also enjoy the video of Dr. Maurer's 
banquet speech at this year's national 
convention, 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=oW-69ydMKg9LpMSUaZX2Mg..>The 
Value of Decision.  Plus, you can now hear audio 
of 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=XtEk0M2RFXjmyE6Mfgznww..>2009 
convention highlights on the NFB site, including 
Mark Riccobono's 
“<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=qeOEwAahmQzrgM2N4k7m-A..>From 
the Center of History” report to the convention 
on the Jernigan Institute's fifth anniversary.


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Product and Access Technology Talk

It’s been a busy time for the Access Technology 
team here at the NFB Jernigan Institute. There 
was the Access Technology seminar at the National 
Convention in Detroit, and then during Youth Slam 
the team did its bit with 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=BkQxVZZ_LfTpLrKJ7A9WOg..>tours 
and sessions­you can expect further updates on 
that on the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=xw4fuZIlDiJtQan-t4otZw..>AT 
blog.

On another topic, the team has been working away 
at finalizing the agenda for the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=RO9LhdtSV4KXYUrSgxO_Vw..>Web 
Accessibility Training Day on September 22. The 
National Federation of the Blind and the Maryland 
Technology Assistance Program, with sponsorship 
from the Maryland Department of Information 
Technology, will be hosting the event, the first 
of its kind in Maryland, at the NFB Jernigan 
Institute. The sessions will highlight strategies 
for achieving Web accessibility in a government or nonprofit setting.

The registration fee for this daylong training 
focusing on all aspects of Web accessibility and 
compliance with Maryland laws and regulations is 
$80, including a box lunch. Our keynote speaker 
is 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=VyLSISdujOETmVGVCWHZTw..>Shawn 
Lawton Henry from the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=YKyycvLBPuA07bvWDFNaYA..>World 
Wide Web Consortium, and the line-up includes 
speakers from every part of the industry, 
including Oracle, Adobe, AOL and Deque. For the 
agenda and for more information please visit the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Y_o7gscujXzhqvnqU9-3lA..>Web 
Accessibility Training Day page.

One company which takes nonvisual Web 
accessibility to heart is 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=WO-4CNjQpxNHDtpBB5x_mw..>Newegg, 
which just recently became the first e-tailer to 
come under 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=oVWh9g4zAgaNghT0yFQHDA..>NFB 
Nonvisual Accessibility Web Certification. 
Newegg, as one of the largest online retailers, 
sets the industry standard and shows that 
accessibility is a benefit. For more information 
please visit the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=8mmVCixBC-v-IWccS-Ds5A..>press 
release or the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=iFVk1TpF3dHza7thgM2U3w..>article 
on 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=iFVk1TpF3dHza7thgM2U3w..>Internet 
Retailer.

The fall only gets busier, with presentations on 
DAISY production and cell phone accessibility at 
the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=tkQhRxnA9avYDVwcB3uRhw..>Assistive 
Technology Industry Association conference in 
Chicago in October 2009. In November, the team 
will present to a variety of higher education 
accessibility specialists at the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=UhIZomRLWPjNstrxdX86mg..>Accessing 
Higher Ground conference in Denver, Colorado, 
along with 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=1mUApBN0Z93y4gTF3D-VCA..>Blackboard 
and 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=XgkRgUfz8Hc2NbDPMO0xwA..>Deque 
Systems, on the work being done to make Blackboard Learn™ fully accessible.

In its copious free time, the team also shared 
some experiences with the newly-accessible 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=-GUN_Hfl8Kaxyw5n-02qCQ..>iPhone 
on the blog; after all, who can resist a nifty new phone?



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 From the tenBroek Library

Photo: Jacobus tenBroek Library entrance



The tenBroek Library documents the 
accomplishments of the blind throughout history 
as well as obstacles to their progress.  We are 
therefore actively collecting biographies of 
blind people, histories of the blind, and older 
books on blindness and the blind.  Once we 
announce the public launch of our online public 
access catalog (which will happen before the next 
issue of Imagineering), Federationists and others 
will have direct access to the growing historical 
resources of our collection.  Meanwhile, we are 
already hard at work on the two important 
historical projects funded by a grant the NFB 
Jernigan Institute recently won from the National 
Historical Publications and Records Commission, a 
division of the United States National 
Archives.  The goal of these projects is to make 
material in the Jacobus tenBroek Papers and the 
NFB Archives easily searchable and accessible.

While we work at making of the tenBroek Library 
an increasingly valuable resource for historians 
of blindness, we also want readers of 
Imagineering to keep in mind that the Federation 
has published a number of 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=_lvwAgenkchXbJ0BaXF52A..>historical 
articles, many of which are already available online.

And speaking of history, have you yet obtained 
your free copy of the CD of Louis Braille’s 1829 
book?  With this CD, the tenBroek Library is 
making Louis Braille’s revolutionary explanation 
of the Braille code generally available for the 
first time in history.  The CD contains page 
images of the book, a transcription of the French 
text, and a translation into English.  You can 
request a copy with an e-mail to 
<mailto:jtblibrary at nfb.org>jtblibrary at nfb.org. 
Make sure to include a mailing address.



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Independence Market

Little girl doing homework on a Brailler
Little girl doing homework on Brailler


It is time for the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=QbxGsY3WTagCKxC0Q0JmpA..>NFB 
Independence Market “back to school” 
sale.  Students of all ages may find some of the 
following items of use in their academic studies 
and extracurricular activities:


Personal Management

1. A 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=iOpFon0xTkUgmWg7_QBn2w..>white 
cane gives a blind person independence to move 
around the home and school environment.
2. A Braille or talking 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=BqLbq-iqNHQf04iI_w4bIg..>compass 
aids navigation.
3. An accessible 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=PbNNhDux0p9fCwK1tW4hyw..>watch 
or clock helps you to get to class on time.
4. Accessible 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=NUF4xK4KTRlj67pFqT3Qaw..>locks 
keep your items secure when using a locker at school or the gym.
5. Most students have several devices which use 
batteries. Distinguish between discharged and new 
ones with a 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=UTy9Q9mpIxHuq6jNBIlqaQ..>battery 
tester.
6. Handheld 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Cm8KRsnnilp585tzq6TFNA..>magnifiers 
ranging from 5X to 14X are available in the Independence Market.


Study Aids

1. Do basic math functions with a 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=K3RmQ47wo1Z8exir3KVCYQ..>calculator 
or abacus.
2. 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=i3O_v3THXIgBZgoLaG_hMQ..>Listen 
to books and record classes.
3. 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=gKxl2Z9gRr7PVuUb9YxjsA..>Take 
notes in class using 20/20 pens, dark lined 
writing paper, writing guides, slates and styluses, and Braille paper.
4. Make Braille 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=GrqUYfOjt8Lg2_AOEdtdGg..>labels 
to get organized.

For more ideas, check out the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=tbdzrUgnA3k9hOW3BaC8oA..>Independence 
Market online or <mailto:independencemarket at nfb.org>contact us for a catalog.


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Parent Outreach

Photo: Braille Book Flea Market



Carol Castellano, president of the National 
Organization of Parents of Blind Children, spoke 
to the National Convention's general session on 
Wednesday afternoon on the topic 
“<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=hmT7WLdSwYQJOgKRODd-EA..>Why 
Are You Trying to Make that Child Blind?”  This 
and the following other convention audio items 
will be of particular interest to parents of blind children:
    * 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=JJyaXeXtouQDMRM1Ma4zwg..>The 
Demand, the Crisis, the Solution in Education for 
the Blind; presented by Edward Bell, Ph.D., 
Director, Professional Development and Research 
Institute on Blindness, Louisiana Tech University.

    * 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=sUBKaqBp2P6SstOsMKq06g..>The 
Theory and the Practice: Education for the Blind 
in the Public School; presented by Denise M. 
Robinson, Ph.D., Teacher and Coordinator of 
Programming for Blind and Visually Impaired Students, Yakima, Washington.
    * A panel on 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=ljYn4hM-o-9KQNQcSog7Lw..>Teaching 
an Essential Skill: Braille. Presentations were 
made by Jerry Whittle, Teacher-Counselor, 
Louisiana Center for the Blind; April Davis, 
Coordinator of Summer Programs for Blind 
Children, Louisiana Center for the Blind; James 
Mays, Industrial Arts Teacher, Louisiana Center 
for the Blind; Deja Powell, Cane Travel 
Instructor, Utah Division of Services for the 
Blind and Visually Impaired; Anil Lewis, 
President, National Federation of the Blind of 
Georgia; and Terri Rupp, President, National 
Federation of the Blind of Nevada.



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Spotlight on the Imagination Fund

As we culminate our yearlong Imagination Fund 
efforts, we want to say thank you, thank you, 
thank you. Thank you for all of the talent, 
treasure, and especially time that you have put 
into our 2008-2009 National Federation of the 
Blind (NFB) Imagination Fund campaign. To date, 
the NFB Imagination Fund has distributed over 
$635,720 to NFB affiliates, with an equal 
distribution going to support the work of our NFB 
Jernigan Institute, and this year's NFB 
Imagination Funds will come out to state affiliates soon.

A special note to state affiliates and 
divisions­A quarter of the funds raised during 
this year’s campaign will be used to provide 
grants for local innovative projects that will 
further our mission in ways such as building the 
NFB state affiliates and divisions, reaching out 
to blind people and their families, educating the 
general public about the capabilities of the 
blind, and developing members into significant 
leaders of our movement. Special consideration 
will be given to proposals that advance our 
Braille literacy initiative.  For more 
information regarding the grant application 
process, please contact the president of your 
affiliate or division soon, as the deadline to 
submit applications is September 14, 2009.

The 2009-2010 campaign officially began on August 
1, 2009.  Late summer and early fall will be a 
time of great planning and development.  As 
Federationists, we will have many goals; we will 
raise the bar. Stay tuned for updates in the 
coming months­whether we walk, run, or fly, we 
will be doing it to raise awareness about our 
independent spirit and to raise monies to support 
our initiatives.  As always, 
<mailto:kbowman at nfb.org>staff at the National 
Center will be available for questions, ideas, and suggestions.

The 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=xiGWN3xgkse-OteBoH7geg..>Imagination 
Fund provides support for the outreach efforts of 
local Federation chapters and affiliates 
throughout the United States as well as the 
research, technology, and education programs and 
initiatives of the NFB Jernigan Institute. The 
Imagination Fund was established January 2004 
with the Grand Opening of our NFB research and training institute.


[]




NFB Calendar

Photo: Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar



2009  Year of Louis Braille's Bicentennial, 
launch of the first United States coin containing 
readable Braille, and kickoff of the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=zGPEPi5DA18CoqRji1LmdQ..>NFB 
Braille Literacy Campaign. Contact the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=bcp1G-ZT-IYelrxrVmVMYw..>U.S. 
Mint to purchase your own 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=k4_2cZzX2eGsgkXm-Pd8yg..>Louis 
Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar.


August 3-14, 
2009 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=6dNXwzkEniywhC8-66gwJw..>Braille 
Enrichment for Literacy and Learning (BELL) program in Maryland.


August 14-16, 2009  Texas CHANGE (Connections 
Helping Another Navigate and Gain Excellence) 
Mentoring Program mentoring wrap-up event at Port 
Royal Resort, Corpus Christi, Texas.


August 22, 2009  GEMS (Georgians Empowered 
through Mentoring Success) mentoring celebration 
outdoor event at a farm in North Georgia.


August 28, 2009  Deadline to submit your Braille 
story to 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Qk2FTgFTLPCUNRXdPmORcg..>Letters 
to President Obama.  Learn more by visiting 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=z7MrQvMz8sJ9nh8-mMd1-A..>http://www.braille.org/.


September 4-6, 2009  Labor Day leadership seminar at the NFB.


September 14, 2009  Deadline to submit NFB 
Imagination Fund grant proposals. For more 
information, contact <mailto:kbowman at nfb.org>kbowman at nfb.org.


September 15-17, 2009  Research in the Rockies 
Symposium at the NFB Jernigan Institute.


September 22, 
2009 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=ejp5oiQ4XDi5aIJkkbEtWA..>Web 
Accessibility Day at the NFB Jernigan Institute.


October 2009 Meet the Blind Month.




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Citation




Many who have not received quality instruction in 
Braille can tell compelling stories of missed 
opportunities and difficulties at school or on 
the job arising from their lack of Braille. 
Others who have experienced a full education in 
Braille can tell stirring success stories of the 
way literacy has changed their lives and helped 
them to participate fully in society. Our goal is 
to collect these stories­the inspiring and the 
compelling, the positive and the negative­and 
compile them into a book about Braille literacy. 
 From the submissions we receive we will select 
one hundred of the most powerful stories for our 
book, and the author of each chosen testimonial 
will receive a free Louis Braille commemorative silver dollar.

If you have been educated in Braille either in 
school or through a rehabilitation agency and you 
lead a productive life because of this knowledge, 
or if you have been denied Braille instruction at 
any point and you believe your life has been 
affected by the struggles you have faced in 
becoming literate in Braille, the world needs to 
hear your story. If you are a parent or teacher 
who has seen the positive effect Braille can have 
on your children or students, your story needs to be told.

On October 1, the first day of Meet the Blind 
Month, we will present our collected stories to 
President Barack Obama, demonstrating through our 
own voices the power of Braille literacy for all 
blind Americans. We will share our hopes and 
dreams with him; we will tell him about the 
struggles we have faced in becoming literate and 
the success that has come from our knowing 
Braille. Through our personal stories we will 
show him that Braille provides independence to blind people and makes us free
.

By reaching out to the highest office in the 
United States, we can teach President Obama about 
the critical link between Braille and 
independence. If we can enlist his leadership, we 
can insure a brighter future for Braille literacy.

We need your help in sending this message. To add 
your story to our collection, please send it by 
August 28 in print or Braille to Letters to 
President Obama, c/o National Federation of the 
Blind, 1800 Johnson Street, Baltimore, Maryland 
21230. Be sure to include your full name, 
address, phone number, and email address if you 
have one. You can also submit your story online 
by visiting 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=6y54PrlQsjndfIxRjhEI8w..>http://www.braille.org/ 
and clicking the link entitled 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=Bx8AcS8oxAO_BNaWn8eHcw..>Letters 
to President Obama.


­Fredric K. Schroeder, 
“<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=9nrXFtDlDvyATmyo22F0iA..>Dear 
Mr. President," Braille Monitor, July 2009





I've always wondered why they include braille 
numbers on drive-up ATM machines. Now I know.


­<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=AcdsRcxPxZyrK9J7OrjbHg..>Comment 
to New York Times article on the Blind Driver 
Challenge, 
“<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=aPeCuaP7KEw6hWDzzZD2Vg..>Helping 
Blind Drivers Take the Wheel," August 5, 2009



Back to Top

Thank you for reading the NFB Jernigan Institute's Imagineering Our Future.


Mentor Trevor Attenberg leads campers along the nature trail








Photo: Group on white water raft






Support the Jernigan Institute through the 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=1z4EM7_-ulHUJt3W_DjBIg..>Imagination 
Fund








Photo: Young woman playing flute









Interesting links:

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=TZ-wM4n5qEecZAHlKoQudA..>Archive 
of Straight Talk about Vision Loss videos

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=an9QVrhKoVGbzdNPnQ0gIg..>National 
Center for Blind Youth in Science

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=tBssgCAVExO22wfVMVmwgQ..>Access 
Technology Tips







Photo: Youth practicing martial art








Blogs:

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=XdC6Fji6MifVqxUDNvrLaQ..>Access 
Technology

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=K7H5eUckgKtetAenWQf_9Q..>Voice 
of the Nation's Blind







Photo: Senior couple










Publication archives:

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=1x-u4lCVKysvkH1PtuIpwg..>Voice 
of the Diabetic

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=XsEx_20sqOeF-KrZY3ugjQ..>Future 
Reflections

<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=sxLkwvTLnrp2KxN-rkSPZw..>Braille 
Monitor







Photo: Mom and son take a moment and a hug




Graphic Logo: National Federation of the Blind










Visit us at 
<http://www.marchforindependence.org/site/R?i=gxUoCyaGc_R0ot02KGgOAw..>nfb.org









Photo: Blind little girl with cane











Photo: Blind youth reading Braille book










Photo: Blind girl examining model of constellations












Photo: Blind boy with tactile globe












Blind Teens Carry the 2007 Youth March for Independence Banner


Imagine a Future Full of Opportunity


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Blind, 1800 Johnson Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
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From lavar.phillips at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 16 06:56:28 2009
From: lavar.phillips at hotmail.com (lavar phillips)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:56:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello
In-Reply-To: <e55a62760908151152y117e99ecp732a8b751ab3fc22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e55a62760908151152y117e99ecp732a8b751ab3fc22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL107-W3926A3D9F5E353693C4C2792000@phx.gbl>


Hey phillip my name is lavar phillips I am a student.I am part of the Nyc chaapter come to our meeting for more info find me on facebook. 
 
> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:52:54 -0400
> From: pcs2001 at caa.columbia.edu
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> My name is Philip So. I just joined this list and would like to say a
> East Coast hello to you.
> 
> A little about myself. I lived outside Chicago briefly before coming
> to the New York City / New Jersey area. I did my undergraduate
> studies at Columbia University majoring in Economics. After immersing
> myself in the
> world of marketing and consulting for a very short stint, I am now
> going to return to school to do my Master's in a blind people and
> policy related field.
> 
> Feel free to look for me on Facebook.
> 
> Nice meeting you all.
> 
> Best,
> Philip
> Email: pcs2001 at columbia.edu
> 
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 16:40:58 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:40:58 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Free RFBD Memberships Now Available!
Message-ID: <85ff10070908170940j73e6e70dvaf57bd3c3a8fe74f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello students:

For a limited time, you can obtain an individual membership to
Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic (RFBD) for free and gain
unlimited access to their collection of textbooks and other materials!
For more information or to sign up, visit
http://www.rfbd.org/membership-individual.htm



-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From cowboy0210 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 17:15:58 2009
From: cowboy0210 at gmail.com (Kevin Ledford)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:15:58 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Free RFBD Memberships Now Available!
In-Reply-To: <85ff10070908170940j73e6e70dvaf57bd3c3a8fe74f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <85ff10070908170940j73e6e70dvaf57bd3c3a8fe74f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5487baf30908171015y3811a21biabdcd2fde6f87e8a@mail.gmail.com>

FYI....this promotion does not allow you to have a membership where you
utilize the books on a device other than say your pc. If you are like me and
use the Victor Reader Stream, then the promotion will not apply to us
unfortunately.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Arielle Silverman <
nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello students:
>
> For a limited time, you can obtain an individual membership to
> Recordings for the Blind and Dyslexic (RFBD) for free and gain
> unlimited access to their collection of textbooks and other materials!
> For more information or to sign up, visit
> http://www.rfbd.org/membership-individual.htm
>
>
>
> --
> Arielle Silverman
> President, National Association of Blind Students
> Phone:  602-502-2255
> Email:
> nabs.president at gmail.com
> Website:
> www.nabslink.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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> nabs-l:
>
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>



-- 
Best Regards,

Kevin D. Ledford


"Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do."

- John Wooden

From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 02:58:20 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:58:20 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Free RFBD Memberships Now Available!
In-Reply-To: <5487baf30908171015y3811a21biabdcd2fde6f87e8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <85ff10070908170940j73e6e70dvaf57bd3c3a8fe74f@mail.gmail.com>
	<5487baf30908171015y3811a21biabdcd2fde6f87e8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090818025820.GD44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Kevin,

It let me have a membership with downloadable DAISY or DAISY CD just 
fine.  That's perfect for a Victor Stream user.

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:15:58AM -0600, Kevin Ledford wrote:
>FYI....this promotion does not allow you to have a membership where you
>utilize the books on a device other than say your pc. If you are like me and
>use the Victor Reader Stream, then the promotion will not apply to us
>unfortunately.



From chriswright11 at verizon.net  Tue Aug 18 11:50:36 2009
From: chriswright11 at verizon.net (Christopher Wright)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:50:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] assistance with a research project please
Message-ID: <005701ca1ffa$1ae9dea0$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com>

Hi all,
Some assistance with a research project would be appreciated. I've been asked to research the following:

-- Definition of blindness
-- how many peple are blind in the world
-- in the United States.
-- Leading 5 causes for blindness (It will probably list the names of those blindnesses, too.
-- quotes about blindness.  such as Being blind is like...   
-- a few famous blind people quotes about achieving or accomplishments.  homer      Ray Charles     maybe a blind business man      the mountain climber--Eric ...... 
-- blind authors and books they've written

If you have any information that would help, please send it directly to me at this address: chrisw1 at bestweb.net

Thanks,



Christopher Wright, Assistant to Judy Redlich
www.judyredlich.com

Listen to the Christian Connection on Mondays at 10 PM Eastern and to Cry Justice on Wednesdays at 10:30 PM on ACB Radio Mainstream.

From newmanrl at cox.net  Wed Aug 19 01:55:18 2009
From: newmanrl at cox.net (Robert Newman)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:55:18 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] New THOUGHT PROVOKER #148- Reality Check
Message-ID: <D479923AE93943798BB75A2F0F927407@D78R0TG1>

NABS
RE:  Reality Check 

The newest THOUGHT PROVOKER is written by a guest author. His story is in
deed a reality check --- for who? If you have not read the PROVOKER, it
follows.  Recall that I collect responses and post them upon my web site for
all the WWW to read and learn from and that URL is-
Http://thoughtprovoker.info <http://thoughtprovoker.info/>   If you wish to
receive THOUGHT PROVOKERS sent directly to you, just write me and ask, at-
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THOUGHT PROVOKER 148
REALITY CHECK

By Guest Author
David Lafleche

"Well, what do you think?"  Mister Jones asked hopefully.

Mister Smith, the network programming director, shuffled through the stack
of scripts with a puzzled look on his face.  This was not a good sign.  He
finally replied, choosing his words carefully.  "It's an unusual idea for a
show, but it will never work."

"Why not?" Mister Jones asked.  "You said the writing was good, and the
characters were well-developed.  What's wrong?"

"It's the characters themselves," Mister Smith sighed.  "I mean, come on.
It's bad enough that your male lead wears glasses; but the blind girls?  Two
handicapped people in the same show?"

"Their blindness is hereditary," Mister Jones explained.  "Caroline could
serve as a role model for Rhoda.  Besides, I figured that a disability would
add depth to the characters, expand possibilities for plots and dialogue,
and so on."

"Maybe so," Mister Smith grudgingly agreed.  "But our focus groups don't
like it.  People who might watch this show would be creeped out by having
two handicapped people to look at."

"Ah, but I've countered that!" Mister Jones rebutted.  "Caroline and Rhoda
are always working, smiling, or teaching something.  They try to be
constructive.  What's so creepy about that?"

Mister Smith struggled to excuse himself.  "Well, uh, two handicapped
females with an upbeat attitude?  Yeah, right.  Besides, you've made these
girls too smart!  Handicapped girls aren't going to be popular; but giving
them high I.Q.s?  That's way over the top.  Now, this 'Caroline' character
is blonde, right?  So make her a bit more dumb.  That's funnier.  And Rhoda
might work, if she dressed up in Goth style, and frowned a little more."
"I know where you're going with that," Mister Jones objected.  "Caroline
will not be 'dumb.'  I want her respectable.  And Rhoda may be blind, but
she isn't bitter.  I don't do that 'Disease-of-the-Week' stuff."

"Can't you at least make them some kind of superhero team?"

"It's been done."

Mister Smith finally cracked a smile.  "That's what sells."

"No, that's what you hope sells.  What's the point of doing a TV show, if I
have to write like everyone else?  I might as well Xerox everything."

"My sentiments exactly, Mister Jones.  There's no point in you trying.
Nobody will believe your show in a million years."

"Oh, sure," Mister Jones rebutted sarcastically.  "But put a British geek on
a flying broomstick, and THAT they'll believe."

"Fantasy gives younger viewers hope," Mister Smith replied.  "But
handicapped people are unnerving.  Two of them is too much."



Robert Leslie Newman 
Email- newmanrl at cox.net
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From dandrews at visi.com  Wed Aug 19 02:07:29 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:07:29 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Help Make A Difference in the education of Blind Students
Message-ID: <auto-000114850560@mailfront2.g2host.com>

If you are ready to help make a difference in the education of blind
students, then this message is for you! This fall, the National
Federation of the Blind is going to kick-off an exciting new program
designed to attract both perspective and current teachers into the field
of blindness education. Specifically, we need volunteers for the
following roles--

*Presenters: As a recruitmentPresentor, you will work with your
local universities to make presentations to teacher candidates. We will
provide you email templates that you can use to establish a university
contact, a few presentation format options that you can easily customize
to complement your personal style, and additional materials that you can
use to promote this outstanding career.

Blindness Education Mentors: Blindness Education Mentors serve as a
local resource to teacher candidates. Your main role is to establish a
connection between the future teacher and the National Federation of the
Blind. Parents of blind children, current or former teachers of blind
students, and others who are passionate about the education of blind
children are encouraged to become mentors.

Career Fair Recruitment Representatives: For this role, we need
individuals who would be interested in promoting this teaching option at
college, high school or community career fairs.

For each of these opportunities, you will receive strong support from
our national office. We will provide you training, professional outreach
materials, ready-to-use presentation outlines, and related support.
This project has the potential to revolutionize blindness education.
Please consider lending your time and talents to ensuring that the next
generation of blind students receives a first-class education!

For more information on how you can make a difference, please contact
Rosy Carranza at (410) 659-9314, ext. 2283, or via email at
rcarranza at nfb.org.



From liz.bottner at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 21:37:47 2009
From: liz.bottner at gmail.com (Liz Bottner)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:37:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: New Program Seeks to Make Alternative Textbooks for
	Visually Impaired Students Available Faster
Message-ID: <4a8c6fa0.19bd720a.628b.7463@mx.google.com>

FYI. 

Liz 

email: 
liz.bottner at gmail.com 
Visit my livejournal: 
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August 19, 2009, 01:00 PM ET 
New Program Seeks to Make Alternative Textbooks for Visually Impaired
Students Available Faster
By Marc Beja
While music-recording companies have been fighting people who illegally
share songs, book publishers are looking to expand file-sharing for college
students with print-related disabilities.

AccessText, a new service that rolled out a beta version this week, has
created an online database that makes it simpler for disability-student
services at colleges to track down alternative forms of course materials
from book publishers. When electronic versions don't exist for a particular
book, the college would get permission to scan the pages so a student could
either make the font larger, or use other text-to-speech or refreshable
Braille reading devices.

Bruce Hildebrand, executive director for higher education at the Association
of American Publishers, says the new service will maximize resources and get
students materials faster.

"The publishers have got billions of dollars worth of content. The DSS
offices are trying to get that out as quickly as possible, generally with
very, very tight budgets and small staffs, and the students obviously need
to get it in as timely a fashion as possible, so they're not behind," he
says.

While the program is in its beta stage until next year, 367 offices are
testing it free of charge, and eight publishers that are part of the
association are footing the bill. When AccessText goes live in July 2010,
members will pay between $375 and $500, on a sliding scale based on the
institution's size. At that point, Mr. Hildebrand hopes that colleges will
be able to share materials with other approved institutions, with
permission, instead of several schools duplicating efforts by scanning books
that another member may already have.

Dawn V. Adams, digital-media-accessibility specialist at the Alternative
Media Access Center at the University of Georgia, has been the first person
to try out AccessText. With the new program, she says she is able to get
books easier than she has in the past, and the turnaround for receiving an
answer from a book publisher is as fast as before, if not faster.

"It's streamlining the work that I do," says Ms. Adams, who serves more than
877 students throughout the University System of Georgia. "All I have to do
is go to one Web site for five different publishers and click a few buttons.
It's a really big timesaver."



From lavar.phillips at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 20 03:15:11 2009
From: lavar.phillips at hotmail.com (lavar phillips)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:15:11 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Help To Start A New York State Student Divison
Message-ID: <COL107-W138C9D7F64FA6B949AF49792FD0@phx.gbl>


If you live in the state of New York and you are a high school or college Student. I have news for you a few of us students are trying to start up our own student divison. We want to be able to help you with your issues with your school and if we cant we will connect you to the people that can. If you need advice about getting the things you need books , reaching your comission representive or just need some one to talk to about school related issues. Please if you want to help start this divison please send your contact info to lavar.phillips at hotmail.com or contact Alex C by phone 9175327439  My cell number is 3452418975 
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From lavar.phillips at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 20 03:50:13 2009
From: lavar.phillips at hotmail.com (lavar phillips)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:50:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Start  A new divison
Message-ID: <COL107-W4206FF1791C8DE724DE70192FD0@phx.gbl>


If you live in the state of New York and you are a high school or college Student. I have news for you a few of us students are trying to start up our own student divison. We want to be able to help you with your issues with your school and if we cant we will connect you to the people that can. If you need advice about getting the things you need books , reaching your comission representive or just need some one to talk to about school related issues. Please if you want to help start this divison please send your contact info to lavar.phillips at hotmail.com or contact Alex C by phone 9175327439  My cell number is 3452418975 

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From lavar.phillips at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 20 03:51:40 2009
From: lavar.phillips at hotmail.com (lavar phillips)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:51:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Start a new divison
Message-ID: <COL107-W614C72D47C6BB995A9037192FD0@phx.gbl>


If you live in the state of New York and you are a high school or college Student. I have news for you a few of us students are trying to start up our own student divison. We want to be able to help you with your issues with your school and if we cant we will connect you to the people that can. If you need advice about getting the things you need books , reaching your comission representive or just need some one to talk to about school related issues. Please if you want to help start this divison please send your contact info to lavar.phillips at hotmail.com or contact Alex C by phone 9175327439  My cell number is 3452418975 

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From TEOlivero at nfb.org  Thu Aug 20 18:16:15 2009
From: TEOlivero at nfb.org (Olivero,
	Treva)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:16:15 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Reading Pals Fall Registration Is Now Open!!!
Message-ID: <auto-000113023828@mailfront1.g2host.com>


Announcing Registration is Open!

  Registration for the Fall 2009 Braille Reading Pals Program

  Program:        Braille Reading Pals

  Registration:  Parents or other caregivers of children eligible for
this program can register for the Fall 2009 Braille Reading Pals Program
online, by fax, or through the mail, August 18, 2009, through September
24, 2009.

  To register online, visit our Web site:
www.NFB.org/ReadingPals

  Sponsor:  The National Federation of the Blind (NFB) Jernigan Institute
in partnership with the National Organization of Parents of Blind
Children, a division of the NFB.

  Program Dates:  October 1, 2009 through November 30, 2009

  Purpose:  The purpose is two-fold: To increase parents' knowledge about
Braille and the importance of early literacy experiences for their blind
children; and to help parents promote early literacy skills, a love of
reading, and a positive attitude about Braille through daily reading
with their blind children over a two-month period.

  Eligibility:  Blind and low-vision children ages 0-7 and older children
with developmental delays who are not yet reading.  NOTE:  Parental
consent is required for the program if a teacher wishes to conduct the
program with his/her blind student(s).

  Materials:  Each child will receive: a print-Braille storybook to keep,
a Beanie Baby stuffed animal-the "Reading Pal," and a sheet of Braille
labels with their name in Braille for mom or dad to cut out and stick
onto their favorite books.  For the parents: instructions and tips; a
reading journal booklet and wall chart; and literature from the NFB and
the National Braille Press about Braille, early literacy, and resources
for buying or borrowing print-Braille storybooks.  In addition, the
parents of children ages 4 and older will receive literature about how
to discuss and explain blindness to children.

  Certificates and Prizes:  Those who complete the program will get a
certificate and a special prize provided by the National Organization of
Parents of Blind Children (NOPBC).  The prize is a tactile,
print-Braille book that the parent and child can enjoy together.

  For more information, contact:

Braille Reading Pals Program
  NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

Jernigan Institute

1800 Johnson Street

Baltimore, MD 21230

Phone: (410) 659-9314, ext. 2295

E-mail:  BrailleReadingPals at nfb.org   *    Fax:  (410) 659-5129

   Sponsored by the NFB Jernigan Institute

with support from

The National Organization of Parents of Blind Children,

the National Braille Press, Capstone Press Publishers, and the American
Action Fund for Blind Children and Adults





Treva E. Olivero

Coordinator, Mentoring and Outreach Projects Jernigan Institute

NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

1800 Johnson Street Baltimore, MD 21230

Phone: (410) 659-9314 ext. 2295

Fax: (410) 659-5129

Email: teolivero at nfb.org

Visit:
www.nfb.org/mentoring

  There is a Braille literacy crisis in America.
You can be part of the solution.
Buy the Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar now!
  




From alexandera.castillo at gmail.com  Thu Aug 20 18:19:00 2009
From: alexandera.castillo at gmail.com (Alexander Castillo)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:19:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division
Message-ID: <e7c236690908201119i8a1bc4ch4427597cc21981b9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, currently, the NFB of New York State does not have an active
student division and some of us are working to get it going again.

If you will be attending or are already attending college (graduate
and undergraduate level) or a job preparatory program in New York
State, and want to see the division active; we would love your input
and participation.

You may contact me at (917) 532-7439, or shoot me an email at
AlexanderA.Castillo at gmail.com

Feel free to pass on this information to anyone you feel would be interested.

Thanks,

Alex


From lavar.phillips at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 20 23:32:08 2009
From: lavar.phillips at hotmail.com (lavar phillips)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:32:08 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division
In-Reply-To: <e7c236690908201119i8a1bc4ch4427597cc21981b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e7c236690908201119i8a1bc4ch4427597cc21981b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL107-W41D86398529E68733B764892FD0@phx.gbl>


Hey alex i posted about this last night on the nabs list. I also poted about this on facebook so what ever emails i get back i will foword to you.
 
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:19:00 -0400
> From: alexandera.castillo at gmail.com
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division
> 
> Hi all, currently, the NFB of New York State does not have an active
> student division and some of us are working to get it going again.
> 
> If you will be attending or are already attending college (graduate
> and undergraduate level) or a job preparatory program in New York
> State, and want to see the division active; we would love your input
> and participation.
> 
> You may contact me at (917) 532-7439, or shoot me an email at
> AlexanderA.Castillo at gmail.com
> 
> Feel free to pass on this information to anyone you feel would be interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alex
> 
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From jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com  Thu Aug 20 23:48:22 2009
From: jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com (Jess)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:48:22 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division
In-Reply-To: <COL107-W41D86398529E68733B764892FD0@phx.gbl>
References: <e7c236690908201119i8a1bc4ch4427597cc21981b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL107-W41D86398529E68733B764892FD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <94AD976157074D3399EB7AA099F504BB@Jessica>

Alex,
I've also posted it on the blindkid list as well.
Jessica
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lavar phillips" <lavar.phillips at hotmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division



Hey alex i posted about this last night on the nabs list. I also poted about 
this on facebook so what ever emails i get back i will foword to you.

> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:19:00 -0400
> From: alexandera.castillo at gmail.com
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] New York State Student Division
>
> Hi all, currently, the NFB of New York State does not have an active
> student division and some of us are working to get it going again.
>
> If you will be attending or are already attending college (graduate
> and undergraduate level) or a job preparatory program in New York
> State, and want to see the division active; we would love your input
> and participation.
>
> You may contact me at (917) 532-7439, or shoot me an email at
> AlexanderA.Castillo at gmail.com
>
> Feel free to pass on this information to anyone you feel would be 
> interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
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From chelseap08 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 03:24:02 2009
From: chelseap08 at gmail.com (C Page)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:24:02 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Labs
Message-ID: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!  I am a freshmen at Hinds CC in Mississippi, and I am taking my
first class that happens to require a lab.  How do you get around the
obstacles such as looking at stuff through a microscope?


From merisa.musemic at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 15:11:08 2009
From: merisa.musemic at gmail.com (Merisa Musemic)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:11:08 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Looking to Connect
Message-ID: <df5bac6d0908210811x1e081312ubaf9b86394e94bc5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone! I'm wondering does anyone on this list know Jerry and Pam
from California. I met them at convention back in July. Due to
technology issues I lost their contact info. So if anyone know sthem,
or could give them my contact info that would be great. Pam's last
name is Chase, and I don't know Jerry's last name. I met both of them
shortly before the Student Devision meeting.
Thanks In Advance!
Merisa


From tinadt at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 21 17:24:43 2009
From: tinadt at sbcglobal.net (tina thomas )
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:24:43 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Looking to Connect
In-Reply-To: <df5bac6d0908210811x1e081312ubaf9b86394e94bc5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1772982255.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Hi Merisa- I will forward your message to our California listserve and our
students and see if we can locate Pam and Jeri. 
Tina   


"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of
someone else's."
- Billy Wilder

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Merisa Musemic
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:11 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Looking to Connect

Hi Everyone! I'm wondering does anyone on this list know Jerry and Pam from
California. I met them at convention back in July. Due to technology issues
I lost their contact info. So if anyone know sthem, or could give them my
contact info that would be great. Pam's last name is Chase, and I don't know
Jerry's last name. I met both of them shortly before the Student Devision
meeting.
Thanks In Advance!
Merisa

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From trillian551 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 17:35:37 2009
From: trillian551 at gmail.com (Mary Fernandez)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:35:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] college program mistake
Message-ID: <fba03a170908211035v37270c9bv5a20e0ccc184ff46@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All.
A few weeks ago Arielle posted up an announcement which was originally
posted on the GABS list. I thank her for it, since this way, a lot of
Georgia Students who are not signed up on our mailing list got the
announcement. However, the For-shadowing college success program,
which is designed to allow a high school student to shadow a college
student for a day, is only for the state of Georgia. I have been
getting answers from other interested students, who unfortunately are
in other states. I am so sorry for the confusion.
However, if this is something that other high school and college
students are truly interested in pursuing, speak with your state
student division. I think it's a great way for high school students to
get a taste of what college life is like. If you have any questions,
or want to know more details for your student division, please feel
free to contact me. My information is on the bottom of this email.
Thanks so much.

-- 
Mary Fernandez
Georgia Association of Blind students secretary
Emory University 2012
P.O. Box 123056
Atlanta Ga.
30322
Phone: 732-857-7004
In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that
greatness is never a given. It must be earned.
President Barack Obama


From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 22 03:51:40 2009
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:51:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>


Hello List,
 
I have been working with my disabilities office to receive my textbooks in an alternative format, however this has proven to be a rather frustrating and unreliable process for obtaining my textbooks. Does anyone know of a way that I could somehow bypass the disabilities office to obtain my textbooks in an electronic format? I’ve already tried looking for them on bookshare, but I did not have any luck in finding them there. I know that RFBD is a great resource, but I’ve noticed that they don’t typically spell out words that might be important when taking tests or exams. Since I’ve never been really good at spelling, I would prefer to have access to an electronic file rather than recorded audio. Does anyone know how I could go about obtaining digital versions of my textbooks without going through my disabilities office?
 
 
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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From qmsingleton at comcast.net  Sat Aug 22 17:34:00 2009
From: qmsingleton at comcast.net (Quintina M. Singleton)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:34:00 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Thruoureyes with Joe Ruffalo Louis Braille Commemorative
	Coin
Message-ID: <auto-000113315520@mailfront1.g2host.com>

The next Thruoureyes with Joe Ruffalo internet radio program 
scheduled for this coming

Wednesday August 26 at

8:00 PM EST is  dedicated to the 2009 Louis Braille Bicentennial 
Silver Dollar.   Mr. Ruffalo will be interviewing very special guests 
Dr. Fred Schroeder and Ryan Strunk.  In addition to learning more 
about what these beautiful coins represent, we will also be provided 
with more information regarding the various ways we can 
all  participate in the promotion  and support of the revolutionary 
Braille literacy campaign.

  To listen to the program via telephone, please 
call  1-605-475-6333, access code:

833520.  To access the show online visit www.thruoureyes.org/jaws.html

The call in number for anyone  interested in asking a question during 
the interview is 1-888-572-0141



From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 19:34:46 2009
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:34:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] electronic texts
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1250960402.18128.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
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Elizabeth,

Often times if you contact the publisher of the text book directly, they
will provide you with an electronic copy. Some require you to provide proof
that you have purchased the book, some will simply email you a file and
others will not help you at all. It is somewhat hit or miss, but I have had
a lot of success with that approach in the past.

One other thing you might consider: Many schools have extremely fast
scanners in their libraries which are open to use by students. Many can turn
hundreds of pages of printed text into a series of pdf files in a short
period of time. Simply take the pdf's and run them through an ocr program
like Kurzweil to get them into a format you can work with.

I agree with you that electronic texts beat audio hands down.

All the best,

Sean

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:24:43 -0700
From: "tina thomas " <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Looking to Connect
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Hi Merisa- I will forward your message to our California listserve and our
students and see if we can locate Pam and Jeri. 
Tina   


"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead of
someone else's."
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:11 AM
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Subject: [nabs-l] Looking to Connect

Hi Everyone! I'm wondering does anyone on this list know Jerry and Pam from
California. I met them at convention back in July. Due to technology issues
I lost their contact info. So if anyone know sthem, or could give them my
contact info that would be great. Pam's last name is Chase, and I don't know
Jerry's last name. I met both of them shortly before the Student Devision
meeting.
Thanks In Advance!
Merisa

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:35:37 -0400
From: Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] college program mistake
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Hello All.
A few weeks ago Arielle posted up an announcement which was originally
posted on the GABS list. I thank her for it, since this way, a lot of
Georgia Students who are not signed up on our mailing list got the
announcement. However, the For-shadowing college success program,
which is designed to allow a high school student to shadow a college
student for a day, is only for the state of Georgia. I have been
getting answers from other interested students, who unfortunately are
in other states. I am so sorry for the confusion.
However, if this is something that other high school and college
students are truly interested in pursuing, speak with your state
student division. I think it's a great way for high school students to
get a taste of what college life is like. If you have any questions,
or want to know more details for your student division, please feel
free to contact me. My information is on the bottom of this email.
Thanks so much.

-- 
Mary Fernandez
Georgia Association of Blind students secretary
Emory University 2012
P.O. Box 123056
Atlanta Ga.
30322
Phone: 732-857-7004
In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that
greatness is never a given. It must be earned.
President Barack Obama



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:51:40 -0400
From: Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
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Hello List,
 
I have been working with my disabilities office to receive my textbooks in
an alternative format, however this has proven to be a rather frustrating
and unreliable process for obtaining my textbooks. Does anyone know of a way
that I could somehow bypass the disabilities office to obtain my textbooks
in an electronic format? I?ve already tried looking for them on bookshare,
but I did not have any luck in finding them there. I know that RFBD is a
great resource, but I?ve noticed that they don?t typically spell out words
that might be important when taking tests or exams. Since I?ve never been
really good at spelling, I would prefer to have access to an electronic file
rather than recorded audio. Does anyone know how I could go about obtaining
digital versions of my textbooks without going through my disabilities
office?
 
 
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 21:12:04 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:12:04 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Elizabeth,

Unfortunately, you cannot.  The publishers basically flatly refuse to 
deal with individual blind students.

Every single higher education publisher has a publishing rights 
office to sell permission to copy and reprint their property.  Almost 
all have a disability accommodations contact person or request form 
for a DSO to fill out on your behalf.

If your DSO is not contacting the publishers, they should be, and I 
can attempt to secure an updated database of publisher contacts for 
you to discuss with your university.

The problem is the next step:  You have to buy the book before most 
of the request forms will be accepted.  As it turns out, that's not 
quite true.  MOST publishers, even though they say that, will accept 
an agreement from the publisher to require you to provide them with 
proof of purchase before releasing the book to you as sufficient for 
that requirement.

There's a sort of workaround for the remaining publishers:  The DSO 
can purchase the book and use those details for the request, then 
have you purchase the book from them (or return it to the bookstore 
when you purchase yours), or something like that.  Whatever is 
needed.

Of course, even in California, publishers do not always have an 
electronic copy of the text to provide, leading to the chop and scan 
solution.  Of course, if you have a quality scanner and a good OCR 
package with a well-trained operator, I'm learning you can get 
reasonably good results from chop and scan for many books.  I've yet 
to see a DSO with a quality scanner, however.  Often student workers 
wind up doing the editing, and often they haven't got much training.

We're nowhere near an efficient enough process that I can actually 
recommend that you do it yourself, especially at the graduate level 
where your time is not so free as it once may have been.  The one 
thing I know for certain is that there are several doctoral degrees 
waiting for those working to solve various aspects of this problem.

Joseph

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:51:40PM -0400, Elizabeth wrote:
>
>Hello List,
> 
>I have been working with my disabilities office to receive my textbooks in an alternative format, however this has proven to be a rather frustrating and unreliable process for obtaining my textbooks. Does anyone know of a way that I could somehow bypass the disabilities office to obtain my textbooks in an electronic format? I’ve already tried looking for them on bookshare, but I did not have any luck in finding them there. I know that RFBD is a great resource, but I’ve noticed that they don’t typically spell out words that might be important when taking tests or exams. Since I’ve never been really good at spelling, I would prefer to have access to an electronic file rather than recorded audio. Does anyone know how I could go about obtaining digital versions of my textbooks without going through my disabilities office?
> 
> 
>Thanks,
>Elizabeth


From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Sat Aug 22 22:57:46 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:57:46 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com><COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
	<20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <4319B9F38A18449D87FCC1EA86B6A613@teal6e6857f643>

well elizabeth

i have had some problems with DSO offices and for an independant book 
finding you are going to have some problems. Does your school have a 
tutorinng program? you could always check and see what your DSS has 
available.

When orddering a book from the publisher in a different format they send it 
to you via email. Then you open the link and download  and right click, 
arrow down to properties and clich then change ABC to ZIP and it will then 
be accessible electronically  or if you have a stream it can read it to you 
audibly. Pretty handy but alittle delayed and may take a while. These are 
directions from my A/t person an di havent tried it yet but maybe she knows?

        Good Luck
                -teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?


> Elizabeth,
>
> Unfortunately, you cannot.  The publishers basically flatly refuse to deal 
> with individual blind students.
>
> Every single higher education publisher has a publishing rights office to 
> sell permission to copy and reprint their property.  Almost all have a 
> disability accommodations contact person or request form for a DSO to fill 
> out on your behalf.
>
> If your DSO is not contacting the publishers, they should be, and I can 
> attempt to secure an updated database of publisher contacts for you to 
> discuss with your university.
>
> The problem is the next step:  You have to buy the book before most of the 
> request forms will be accepted.  As it turns out, that's not quite true. 
> MOST publishers, even though they say that, will accept an agreement from 
> the publisher to require you to provide them with proof of purchase before 
> releasing the book to you as sufficient for that requirement.
>
> There's a sort of workaround for the remaining publishers:  The DSO can 
> purchase the book and use those details for the request, then have you 
> purchase the book from them (or return it to the bookstore when you 
> purchase yours), or something like that.  Whatever is needed.
>
> Of course, even in California, publishers do not always have an electronic 
> copy of the text to provide, leading to the chop and scan solution.  Of 
> course, if you have a quality scanner and a good OCR package with a 
> well-trained operator, I'm learning you can get reasonably good results 
> from chop and scan for many books.  I've yet to see a DSO with a quality 
> scanner, however.  Often student workers wind up doing the editing, and 
> often they haven't got much training.
>
> We're nowhere near an efficient enough process that I can actually 
> recommend that you do it yourself, especially at the graduate level where 
> your time is not so free as it once may have been.  The one thing I know 
> for certain is that there are several doctoral degrees waiting for those 
> working to solve various aspects of this problem.
>
> Joseph
>
> -- 
> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
> If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:51:40PM -0400, Elizabeth wrote:
>>
>>Hello List,
>> I have been working with my disabilities office to receive my textbooks 
>> in an alternative format, however this has proven to be a rather 
>> frustrating and unreliable process for obtaining my textbooks. Does 
>> anyone know of a way that I could somehow bypass the disabilities office 
>> to obtain my textbooks in an electronic format? I’ve already tried 
>> looking for them on bookshare, but I did not have any luck in finding 
>> them there. I know that RFBD is a great resource, but I’ve noticed that 
>> they don’t typically spell out words that might be important when taking 
>> tests or exams. Since I’ve never been really good at spelling, I would 
>> prefer to have access to an electronic file rather than recorded audio. 
>> Does anyone know how I could go about obtaining digital versions of my 
>> textbooks without going through my disabilities office?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>Elizabeth
>
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 00:48:29 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:48:29 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Labs
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <061116AADCCF4B8490281F4CE313D5A2@teal6e6857f643>

could you not have someone who looks into the microscope describe what they 
see?

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To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:24 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Labs


> Hi!  I am a freshmen at Hinds CC in Mississippi, and I am taking my
> first class that happens to require a lab.  How do you get around the
> obstacles such as looking at stuff through a microscope?
>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 23 00:57:12 2009
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:57:12 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl> 
	<20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>


Okay, so then how do i go about contacting the publishers to receive a digital editions of my textbooks? Do i just search for the companies online and send them an email with my request? Or is it better to call the publisher and speak with someone from a particular department? Since it sounds as though there are some members on the list who have some experience in contacting the publishers directly, do you have any tips to share to attempt to make this venture a success? I've never done this before, so I'm curious to find out how other people have tried to do it and whether or not their venture was successful.

 

Thanks,

Elizabeth

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From Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com  Sun Aug 23 12:00:01 2009
From: Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com (Rachel Becker)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:00:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJKEONCHAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>

In Maryland the library for the blind will contact the publishers. We have a
law in our state that requires them to provide the file. There are a few
exceptions. Good luck.
Rachel

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Elizabeth
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:57 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?



Okay, so then how do i go about contacting the publishers to receive a
digital editions of my textbooks? Do i just search for the companies online
and send them an email with my request? Or is it better to call the
publisher and speak with someone from a particular department? Since it
sounds as though there are some members on the list who have some experience
in contacting the publishers directly, do you have any tips to share to
attempt to make this venture a success? I've never done this before, so I'm
curious to find out how other people have tried to do it and whether or not
their venture was successful.



Thanks,

Elizabeth

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From serenacucco at verizon.net  Sun Aug 23 14:04:56 2009
From: serenacucco at verizon.net (Serena)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:04:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
References: <042C67107C394F0CB57C65D8D1D78A90@thedjdinvasion><59FA46627A454ACEB20F0C0E0CBD09B2@useripvq7z5u3t>
	<A20E1993BF4E46BE92E71EAD95BB1C52@Gateway>
Message-ID: <00eb01ca23fa$b1cb0930$0201a8c0@Serene>

Yeah, but you can't text message with them and I'm pretty sure that's what 
most people of our generation want when they're looking for an accessible 
phone now adays.  I personally have an LG phone and it works fine for me, 
but it's all personal preference.

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jennifer Aberdeen" <freespirit328 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] verizon phone question


> The LG phones from Verizon all have talking menus. They probably aren't as 
> good as Talks or Mobile Speak, but I think it's very good, and it comes 
> ready to use right out of the box; you don't have to pay extra for a 
> screen reading software.
>
>
> Jen
>
> Shop my AVON online store
> http://jaberdeen.avonrepresentative.com
>
> Get healthy!
> http://jaberdeen.qhealthbeauty.com
>
> Contact me:
>
> Jennifer Aberdeen
> PO Box 1184
> Woonsocket, RI 02895
> 401-762-3258 (home)
> 401-644-5607 (cell)
> freespirit328 at gmail.com
> SKYPE: J.Aberdeen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <pajohns1 at vt.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
>
>
>>    David,
>>
>> Talks is available on the
>> *HTC Ozone 
>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4848&changingCompletedOrder=
>> Motorola Q9C (recently discontinued).
>> I don't think Moble Speaks is supported by any of the
>> Verizon phones.
>> *The LG enV Touch 
>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=4787&changingCompletedOrder=
>> has it's own screen reader software.
>>
>> Also check out,
>>
>> * http://www.accessiblephones.com/
>> * http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=258
>> * http://aboutus.vzw.com/accessibility/talks.html
>>
>> A YahooGroups List for Accessible Verizon Phones is at
>> * BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Dunphy" <djdrocks4ever at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:30 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
>>
>>
>>> Was wondering if anyone knows what model/models of phone/phones will
>>> support either MobileSpeak or Talks that will work with Verizon 
>>> Wireless?
>>> Thanks from David
>>>
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From davidb521 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 15:04:28 2009
From: davidb521 at gmail.com (David Bouchard)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:04:28 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] PDF to Word Converter
Message-ID: <4a914c98.19015a0a.4966.6985@mx.google.com>

Hi. Does anyone one of a PDF to Word or PDF to HTML converter? I know I can save PDF files as a text file, but I want the formatting presvered when I translate the file with Duxbury. Any help is appreciated.
David


From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 16:37:58 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:37:58 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The Last Djd Invasion To Air From Minneapolis Minnesota
	Airs Tonight
Message-ID: <7DBCFDEAC8AF4CC199D424EC6984E05C@thedjdinvasion>

Hello All!
Well, this is it! My time at Minneapolis ends on Thursday, and I'll be leaving on Friday.
So with this in mind, I present for you tonight, The Last Djd Invasion to be aired in Minneapolis Minnesota.
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From sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca  Sun Aug 23 16:51:10 2009
From: sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca (sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:51:10 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
	<20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090823125110.ou89uf0sgwcgc4gg@webmail.utoronto.ca>

Hi Elizabeth,
If you Google the publishers, there is often a contact us page with an  
e-mail and phone number. To be safe, try both. It's hard to know who  
to ask for but if you explain what you're looking for they can pass  
you on to the right person. I tried this with the publisher Wiley with  
no success (they wer friendly but didn't have anything to help me) but  
be assertive and hopefully you'll get what you need.
Hope it goes well,
Sarah

Quoting Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>:

>
> Okay, so then how do i go about contacting the publishers to receive  
>  a digital editions of my textbooks? Do i just search for the   
> companies online and send them an email with my request? Or is it   
> better to call the publisher and speak with someone from a   
> particular department? Since it sounds as though there are some   
> members on the list who have some experience in contacting the   
> publishers directly, do you have any tips to share to attempt to   
> make this venture a success? I've never done this before, so I'm   
> curious to find out how other people have tried to do it and whether  
>  or not their venture was successful.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elizabeth
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.
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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 17:02:02 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:02:02 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Labs
In-Reply-To: <061116AADCCF4B8490281F4CE313D5A2@teal6e6857f643>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
	<061116AADCCF4B8490281F4CE313D5A2@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908231002t43e654dcn8f6069b07eed324b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Chelsea and all,

	I was a biology major in college and so I took two general biology
courses with labs and two general chem. Courses with labs. I’ll share
some things that worked for me.

	Almost all of my lab projects for all four courses were done In
groups of four, or at least in groups of two. As long as your lab
assignment is a group endeavor, not being able to see images from a
microscope or chemical reactions won’t be a big problem. The key is to
simply ask for information from your other group members and try to
get a good enough explanation to be able to describe what happened in
your write-up. If the lab is particularly visual, you may want to
offer to take on extra note-taking, calculations, or writing for your
group in exchange for the visual descriptions.

	One difference between high school and college science courses is
that the college courses tend to emphasize the scientific
process—making observations, identifying research questions, making
predictions and testing those predictions by designing an experiment.
The good news is that most of these  steps—with the exception of
initial observation—don’t require vision. Because of the emphasis on
scientific process, experiments often won’t be as complicated as ones
you might have done in high school, since much of your time will  be
spent designing your project. Actually, in a year of bio labs I think
I only had to complete one microscope lab. Several of my labs didn’t
even use organisms at all—using coin tosses to simulate genetic drift,
for example. If you can get your lab partners to give you information
about what’s happening visually, you can still be an active
participant and even a leader in the steps of identifying your
research question, making predictions and designing your experiment.
We had one lab in which we had to watch a pack of crickets for ten
minutes and then come up with an experiment to test some aspect of
their behavior. My group was able to give me a pretty good
play-by-play of what the crickets were doing so I could help develop
the experiment and write it up afterward.

	There are some things, like dissections, that you can do
independently even though your lab instructor might be reluctant to
let you try it. If you  want to do a dissection or some other hands-on
activity but haven’t done it before, you may want to ask your lab
instructor for a little one-on-one lesson the week before the lab. I
believe most instructors for introductory science labs are graduate
teaching assistants. Many of these people are getting their Ph.D.’s in
the field that they are teaching. Speaking as a graduate TA in
psychology, I’ll say that most graduate TA’s will be glad to work
one-on-one with a motivated student, especially compared with the
monotonous grading and other tasks that aren’t nearly as fun or
rewarding. So by all means take advantage of your TA’s knowledge as
much as you can.

	Some blind students use in-lab readers (or “lab assistants”) to help
them access information. I used them and at times they were helpful. I
don’t think it’s necessary to have one unless the lab project you are
doing is an individual project and you need to get visual information
(such as color changes, microscope images etc.) in order to understand
the lab. As long as it’s a group lab, I think lab assistants  are nice
but not essential. I also think it’s preferable to hire your own lab
assistant instead of going through a disability services office,
although sometimes the DSS can help you find qualified readers if you
can’t find one. It’s important to show your professor and lab
instructor that you are in charge of the lab assistant. For example, I
have a friend who wasn’t allowed to participate in any chemistry lab
activities unless her lab assistant was present. You don’t want to be
subjected to those kinds of rules—you  need to be in charge of your
accommodations and make your own decisions about how they will be
used.

	I’ll make one more comment which is a bit more general but I think is
important. Many sighted people (and some blind people too) believe
that because math and science is often very visual for the sighted,
and blind  people don’t have access to the visual information, blind
students are therefore at a disadvantage. In my experience this  isn’t
the case at all, and in my opinion the visual information taught in
math and science courses is often not nearly as important in the long
term as it may seem. For instance, in introductory biology courses
(especially at the high school level) knowing what a cell looks like
and where all the different parts of the cell are located is highly
emphasized. However, in order to really understand biology, knowing
what a cell looks like is a lot less important than understanding what
happens inside a cell, how the parts of the cell interact and how
cells interact with each other to form more complex systems. I have a
bachelor’s degree in biology and I still have a very shady mental
image of what a cell looks like. I was able to succeed by
understanding the functional concepts—knowing what happens during
essential processes inside the cell such as DNA replication, for
instance. You can learn these concepts by using tactile diagrams or
3-D models—and these may be helpful especially if you are a visual
learner. But you can also learn these things verbally without any
pictures. Similarly, in higher math courses a lot of emphasis is
placed on graphing equations, etc. But ultimately, knowing how to
graph an equation will only get you so far, while knowing the
mathematics involved is much more important to conceptual
understanding in the long term. The key is to find a learning style
that works for you—whether it involves tactile graphics, verbal
instruction, or some other method—and using it even if it’s not the
same method as what sighted students may use. Nonvisual methods for
learning can be just as effective—and in some cases maybe even more
effective in the long term—than visual ones.

I hope this is helpful. Feel free to write me off-list if you have
more  specific questions or concerns. Good luck!

Arielle


On 8/23/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> could you not have someone who looks into the microscope describe what they
> see?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C Page" <chelseap08 at gmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:24 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Labs
>
>
>> Hi!  I am a freshmen at Hinds CC in Mississippi, and I am taking my
>> first class that happens to require a lab.  How do you get around the
>> obstacles such as looking at stuff through a microscope?
>>
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President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 17:28:03 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:28:03 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com><COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
	<20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EF950EBFE4004D3CB6F430716FED5F49@teal6e6857f643>

Well reallyRFB&D is the only way that you can do it for yourself. If you go 
to

www.publisherlookup.com

not only will it tell you the rules and guidelines, it will tell you why. on 
this site there are alot of graphics so if i were you i would tab down to 
forms and guidelines then enter. They are only going to work with the DSO 
though and for now it doesn't really look like there is any way around it. 
Just remember its new so maybe it will change because it seems to be retty 
great.

Another thing i mentioned though is since you have to buy the book anyways 
then you can try getting a reader through DSS or even since you are going to 
have to buy the book anyways you can try scanning it. JAWS 10 reads even PDF 
files but you cant really use a form field easily PDF but you can always 
save it as a text document then make a folder on desktop for that class, and 
save it in there. Unless you want to work ahead you would only have to do a 
couple chapters at a time but if thats the case you might as well get it 
from the publisher.

sorry if i didnt help
        Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?


>
> Okay, so then how do i go about contacting the publishers to receive a 
> digital editions of my textbooks? Do i just search for the companies 
> online and send them an email with my request? Or is it better to call the 
> publisher and speak with someone from a particular department? Since it 
> sounds as though there are some members on the list who have some 
> experience in contacting the publishers directly, do you have any tips to 
> share to attempt to make this venture a success? I've never done this 
> before, so I'm curious to find out how other people have tried to do it 
> and whether or not their venture was successful.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elizabeth
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From ginisd at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 23 18:20:51 2009
From: ginisd at sbcglobal.net (V Nork)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:20:51 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] =?iso-8859-1?q?Fw=3A_Accessible_World_presents_Friday_Ni?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?ght_at_the_Movies=2C_=22Doubt=22_is_this_months_mov?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?ie=2C_September_4=2C_2009?=
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: News Wire 
To: ginisd at sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:39 PM
Subject: Accessible World presents Friday Night at the Movies, "Doubt" is this months movie, September 4, 2009



News Wire:

There is no evidence. There are no witnesses. But for one, there is no "Doubt".

Starring:: Meryl Streep, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams
Director: John Patrick Shanley
Year: 2008
Rating: PG13

When the principal of a Bronx Catholic High School accuses a popular priest of pedophilia, a young nun caught in between the feuding pair becomes hopelessly swept up in the ensuing controversy. 1964, St. Nicholas, the Bronx: The winds of change are sweeping through this tight-knit religious community, and charismatic priest Father Flynn is doing his best to adapt by revisiting the school's notoriously strict disciplinary practices. Unfortunately Father Flynn's progressive ideas stand in stark contrast to the longstanding beliefs of Sister Aloysius Beauvier, the iron-willed principal, who believes that an oppressive environment of punishment and fear is the only way to keep the student body in line. Suddenly into this tempestuous environment appears young Donald Miller, St. Nicholas' first black student. When hopeful innocent Sister James reluctantly reveals to Sister Beauvier that Father Flynn and Donald have been spending an unusual amount of time together in the church rectory, the unrelentingly righteous headmistress begins a merciless crusade to reveal the beloved clergyman as a lecherous child molester and have him permanently expunged from the school.

Yet despite her moral certainty that Father Flynn has committed such an unspeakable transgression, Sister Beauvier has not a shred of actual evidence to back up her audacious claim. Now, as Sister Beauvier and Father Flynn enter into an epic battle of wills, the shock waves set into motion by their explosive confrontation threaten to destroy one man's reputation and tear apart the entire surrounding community.

Nancy Lynn, Group Facilitator
Email: Freespirit52 at charter.net

Date: Friday, September 4, 2009

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From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 20:22:16 2009
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:22:16 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textbooks Come From
In-Reply-To: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <85F04E16D0BC41EFAEFD8AEADF6FD0C2@VALUED04C3B21F>

Hi Elizabeth,

Ok, I'll try to actually remove the rest of the digest from my post. Sorry
about that one.

I see it being said that contacting the publishers directly does not work.
This may now be true. All I can say for certain is that it did work quite
well for me from 2002 to 2007. Perhaps things have changed. Yes. I would
just google the publisher, get a general contact number, describe my
situation to whomever answered the call and get transferred to somebody who
could help.

It is true that many of them wanted verification from a DSS office, but I
found that doing this initial leg work made the process much faster on the
DSS office's part. Honestly, often times I would speak with somebody at a
publisher and have a text version of the book within hours.

It is also true that some of them wanted proof that I had purchased a print
or e-text copy of the book, so I did.

As for doing it yourself, depending on the kind of scanning equipment you
have at your disposal and how reliable (or unreliable) your DSS office is,
it can really be the best option. Yep, it takes a little extra time, but
knowing that it will actually be done in a timely manner, in my opinion,
makes the extra time spent well worth while. 

Hope that helps, somewhat.

Take care,

Sean



From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 20:35:45 2009
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:35:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <2A28FFF3230048AF8689AD20B5FED646@VALUED04C3B21F>

Hi,

Verizon has many phones that work with Mobile Speaks. I believe there is a
list available on Code Factory's website. The HTC Ozone is the one with
which they are currently offering a discounted license for Talks. One
cautionary anecdote: A friend of mine purchased the Ozone with Talks about
three and a half weeks ago. It did not install properly, and still is not
working. In trying to have the situation remedied with Verizon, it has
become quite clear that nobody at that company has any idea what they are
talking about in regards to accessible phones. Their "Specialist" who
supposedly deals with Mobile Speaks is completely ignorant of even the
basics. I'll save you my rant. Bottom line; it still does not work. The
license is not recognized as valid, and even in ten minute mode, pressing
many keys yields a description of what the key should be doing (i.e. "up",
"left" "down",) rather than performing the action. Talks is not in training
mode. Curious if anybody knows of others who have either experienced similar
problems or had success running Talks on an Ozone.

Thanks,

Sean



From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 21:12:03 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:12:03 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
In-Reply-To: <EF950EBFE4004D3CB6F430716FED5F49@teal6e6857f643>
References: <29061a460908202024g5cbbe43dncaef0d5607e80b04@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL118-W58C7AEC34C80F22E76BFE5BAFB0@phx.gbl>
	<20090822211204.GX44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<COL118-W4864D0F38120C58B29E530BAFA0@phx.gbl>
	<EF950EBFE4004D3CB6F430716FED5F49@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908231412ieb5e860uc7c95b83f08457fc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Liz and all,

If you don't have luck getting the book from the publisher, it may be
worth the time and/or money to either scan the book chapters yourself
or hire someone to scan and proofread, if spelling accuracy is
important. If you are a VR client, talk to them about securing funds
to pay a reader, who can either read the book to you directly or get
you an edited scan of the book/chapters you will be using.

Arielle

On 8/24/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well reallyRFB&D is the only way that you can do it for yourself. If you go
> to
>
> www.publisherlookup.com
>
> not only will it tell you the rules and guidelines, it will tell you why. on
> this site there are alot of graphics so if i were you i would tab down to
> forms and guidelines then enter. They are only going to work with the DSO
> though and for now it doesn't really look like there is any way around it.
> Just remember its new so maybe it will change because it seems to be retty
> great.
>
> Another thing i mentioned though is since you have to buy the book anyways
> then you can try getting a reader through DSS or even since you are going to
> have to buy the book anyways you can try scanning it. JAWS 10 reads even PDF
> files but you cant really use a form field easily PDF but you can always
> save it as a text document then make a folder on desktop for that class, and
> save it in there. Unless you want to work ahead you would only have to do a
> couple chapters at a time but if thats the case you might as well get it
> from the publisher.
>
> sorry if i didnt help
>         Teal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Where Do Textooks Come From?
>
>
>>
>> Okay, so then how do i go about contacting the publishers to receive a
>> digital editions of my textbooks? Do i just search for the companies
>> online and send them an email with my request? Or is it better to call the
>>
>> publisher and speak with someone from a particular department? Since it
>> sounds as though there are some members on the list who have some
>> experience in contacting the publishers directly, do you have any tips to
>> share to attempt to make this venture a success? I've never done this
>> before, so I'm curious to find out how other people have tried to do it
>> and whether or not their venture was successful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.
>> http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Sun Aug 23 21:15:19 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:15:19 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: Accessible World presents Friday Night at
	the	Movies, "Doubt" is this months movie, September 4, 2009
In-Reply-To: <E72A9B3C6E9A44DEB878D5C22E0DF333@windows4c0ed96>
References: <E72A9B3C6E9A44DEB878D5C22E0DF333@windows4c0ed96>
Message-ID: <20090823211519.GB44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>

I'm pleased to see something like this in existence, but saddened 
that what is being made accessible is such utter trash that I cannot 
even stomach the film long enough to determine how well the system 
works.

This film should offend a Catholic as much as the movie Blindness 
offended the blind, and for much the same reason.

Joseph

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:20:51AM -0700, V Nork wrote:
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: News Wire 
>To: ginisd at sbcglobal.net 
>Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:39 PM
>Subject: Accessible World presents Friday Night at the Movies, "Doubt" is this months movie, September 4, 2009
>
>
>
>News Wire:
>
>There is no evidence. There are no witnesses. But for one, there is no "Doubt".
>
>Starring:: Meryl Streep, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Amy Adams
>Director: John Patrick Shanley
>Year: 2008
>Rating: PG13
>
>When the principal of a Bronx Catholic High School accuses a popular priest of pedophilia, a young nun caught in between the feuding pair becomes hopelessly swept up in the ensuing controversy. 1964, St. Nicholas, the Bronx: The winds of change are sweeping through this tight-knit religious community, and charismatic priest Father Flynn is doing his best to adapt by revisiting the school's notoriously strict disciplinary practices. Unfortunately Father Flynn's progressive ideas stand in stark contrast to the longstanding beliefs of Sister Aloysius Beauvier, the iron-willed principal, who believes that an oppressive environment of punishment and fear is the only way to keep the student body in line. Suddenly into this tempestuous environment appears young Donald Miller, St. Nicholas' first black student. When hopeful innocent Sister James reluctantly reveals to Sister Beauvier that Father Flynn and Donald have been spending an unusual amount of time together in the church rectory, the unrelentingly righteous  headmistress begins a merciless crusade to reveal the beloved clergyman as a lecherous child molester and have him permanently expunged from the school.
>
>Yet despite her moral certainty that Father Flynn has committed such an unspeakable transgression, Sister Beauvier has not a shred of actual evidence to back up her audacious claim. Now, as Sister Beauvier and Father Flynn enter into an epic battle of wills, the shock waves set into motion by their explosive confrontation threaten to destroy one man's reputation and tear apart the entire surrounding community.
>
>Nancy Lynn, Group Facilitator
>Email: Freespirit52 at charter.net
>
>Date: Friday, September 4, 2009
>
>Time: 6:00 p.m. PDT, 7:00 p.m. MDT, 8:00 p.m. CDT, 9:00 p.m. EDT
>         and elsewhere in the world Saturday 1:00 GMT. 
>
>
>Approximately 15 minutes prior to the event start time; go to the Accessible World Auditorium at:
>
>http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs5affc3cfa191
>
>Or, alternatively, 
>
>Select the Accessible World Auditorium at: www.accessibleworld.org
>Enter your first and last names on the sign-in screen.
>
>All online interactive programs require no password, are free of charge, and open to anyone worldwide having an Internet connection, a computer, speakers, and a sound card. Those with microphones can interact audibly with the presenters and others in the virtual audience or text chat with attendees. To speak to us, hold down the control key and talk; then let up to listen. 
>
>If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download and then run. A link to the software is available on every entry screen to the Accessible World rooms.
>Sign up information for all Accessible World News Wires and discussion lists are also available at our website: www.accessibleworld.org
>
>Accessible World Contacts:
>
>Robert Acosta, Chair
>Accessible World
>818-998-0044
>Email: boacosta at pacbell.net 
>Web:  helpinghands4theblind.org 
>
>Joann Becker, Events Coordinator 
>Accessible World 
>617-969-1213 
>Email: joannbecker at pcomcast.net
>
>George Buys, CEO.
>Talking Communities
>Email: buys at talkingcommunities.com
>
>The Accessible World, a division of Helping Hands For The Blind, a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization, seeks to educate the general public, the disabled community and the professionals who serve them by providing highly relevant information about new products, services, and training opportunities designed specifically to eliminate geographic and access barriers that adversely affect them
>
>
>
>
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From serenacucco at verizon.net  Sun Aug 23 23:37:44 2009
From: serenacucco at verizon.net (Serena)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:37:44 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ef01ca244a$b703f470$0201a8c0@Serene>

Hi Darien

I pretty much grew up with the NFB.  My mom found out about it when I was 
just a baby.  I've attended the Buddy (grammar school/middle school age) and 
STEP (high school age) programs at LCB 3 times in total between the 2 
programs.

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere


> Hi all,
>  i wanted to pose a topic to you all.
> We all found our way into the NFB/Nabs in some way. My question to
> you all is how you were introduced into the NFB and what made you stay
> a part of it?  What person or event  made you think "hey, this is
> pretty cool"?  And
> For me, it was  Julie Deden and my then rehab counsolerTony Lewis
> whogot me to go the the CCB for the summer program. I actually went
> twice, and each time I was lucky enough to find friendship and  great
> role models there. I saw what blind people were doing, and for the
> first time, I was not hesitent  to use my cane, nor did I ever think
> any differently of other blind folks.  What kept me were the people
> who kind of have become my mentors, adults I've met in the program who
> have kept in touch with me even today; years after  the fact.  With
> what they've showed me, i feel like I should pay that foward.
>    Thanks
> Darian
>
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From serenacucco at verizon.net  Mon Aug 24 00:14:29 2009
From: serenacucco at verizon.net (Serena)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:14:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] ENV3
References: <584283.78818.qm@web65602.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01f501ca244f$d99d4720$0201a8c0@Serene>

Hi Cindy

I don't know anything about the cell phones, but my brother says the reason 
you're not getting all the emails from the NABS list is probably cuz the 
website for your internet service provider probably has a spam filter that 
automatically makes emails with certain subjects or from certain email 
addresses appear as spam, even when they're real.  Check the website for 
your internet service provider to see if it has a spam filter and turn it 
off!  Now that I think about it, I actually had to do that once when my best 
friend, who uses gmail, was sending me emails which I wasn't receiving. 
Good luck!

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Bennett" <passionflower505 at yahoo.com>
To: "National Asociation of Blind Students" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] ENV3


>
> Does anyone know about the accessibility of the ENV3? I am assuming that 
> it is probably about the same as the ENV2, but i was curious if anyone 
> knew whether it is any different.
>
> I find it disconcerting that now the purchase of all smart phones requires 
> the monthly add on of internet fees when these are the only phones blind 
> people can make completely accessible to them. If anyone knows of any 
> other verizon phones that would be more accessible than the ENV phones 
> that are not new smart phones, please let me know.
>
> For some reason, i haven't been receiving all of the emails that come 
> through the list, i have tried unsubscribing and subscribing again, so 
> emailing me personally with information might work better.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
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From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 24 05:12:01 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:12:01 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] verizon phone question
References: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<2A28FFF3230048AF8689AD20B5FED646@VALUED04C3B21F>
Message-ID: <2857B0F7D60B4A2FB8D68E3DC3CD5540@dwrigh6>

Evening all,

Currently, Talks is not supported on the HTC Ozone. The only phone 
officially supported is the Motorola Q from Verizon. Verizon, at this time, 
is not technically supposed to be offering customers the ability to purchase 
any other device than the Motorola Q as per their contract with Nuance. 
MobileSpeak although not listed as supporting the Ozone as of yet, works 
great on this device with only a few bugs. Hope this helps.


Best Regards:
Dave Wright
Work Phone: 347-422-7085
Email:
dwrigh6 at gmail.com
WebPage:
http://www.knfbreader.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Whalen" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] verizon phone question


> Hi,
>
> Verizon has many phones that work with Mobile Speaks. I believe there is a
> list available on Code Factory's website. The HTC Ozone is the one with
> which they are currently offering a discounted license for Talks. One
> cautionary anecdote: A friend of mine purchased the Ozone with Talks about
> three and a half weeks ago. It did not install properly, and still is not
> working. In trying to have the situation remedied with Verizon, it has
> become quite clear that nobody at that company has any idea what they are
> talking about in regards to accessible phones. Their "Specialist" who
> supposedly deals with Mobile Speaks is completely ignorant of even the
> basics. I'll save you my rant. Bottom line; it still does not work. The
> license is not recognized as valid, and even in ten minute mode, pressing
> many keys yields a description of what the key should be doing (i.e. "up",
> "left" "down",) rather than performing the action. Talks is not in 
> training
> mode. Curious if anybody knows of others who have either experienced 
> similar
> problems or had success running Talks on an Ozone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
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From newmanrl at cox.net  Mon Aug 24 14:17:26 2009
From: newmanrl at cox.net (Robert Newman)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:17:26 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB Where The Blind Work Needs Customer Service Job
 Descriptions
Message-ID: <auto-000113484182@mailfront1.g2host.com>


The NFB Where The Blind Work Needs Customer Service Job Descriptions

We need descriptions of all types of customer service jobs and how 
you do them. Your description will be added to the NFB's "Where The 
Blind work," a new and ever growing resource of career descriptions 
and how the blind compete within them. This is a great resource to 
assist youth to plan for future employment and for the adult who is 
looking to change jobs and/or careers.

Your description must follow the below five question format:
When completed please email them to me at 
<mailto:newmanrl at cox.net>newmanrl at cox.net

  (A * indicates a required field):

1. * Name, * Industry in which you work, * Job title, Address 1, 
Address 2, City, State, Zip Code, Phone number, E-mail,

* 2. Please explain to us what any worker would do on this job 
(specialized blindness alternatives will appear below).

* 3. Please tell us the cause of your blindness. Then, let us know 
about the alternative methods and/or techniques you use to perform your job.

* 4. Please let us know of any required special training, education, 
certificates, experience, etc. needed for this job.

* 5. Please tell us about anyone or anything that aided you to be successful.

(A joint project between the Jernigan Institute and the NFB Writers' 
Division; for all people)

Visit  the "Where The Blind Work" at-

<http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Blind_Work.asp?SnID=28992349>http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Blind_Work.asp?SnID=28992349 


President NFB Writers' Division
Robert Leslie Newman
Email- newmanrl at cox.net
Division Website-
<Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org>Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org

From mewhalen at wisc.edu  Mon Aug 24 14:32:43 2009
From: mewhalen at wisc.edu (Meghan Whalen)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:32:43 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ef01ca244a$b703f470$0201a8c0@Serene>
Message-ID: <0B0B57E7FA3743089E3BB4F14EEFE2BA@HPdc79001>

    I became involved in the NFB after recieving a state scholarship. 
Honestly, I thought I would be likely to grab my money and run, but the 
organization resonated so strongly with me that I have stayed.  I now do all 
I can to help others feel that connection and find themselves.

Meghan 



From liz.bottner at gmail.com  Mon Aug 24 15:31:08 2009
From: liz.bottner at gmail.com (Liz Bottner)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:31:08 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Verizon phone question
In-Reply-To: <2A28FFF3230048AF8689AD20B5FED646@VALUED04C3B21F>
References: <mailman.45.1251046804.29497.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<2A28FFF3230048AF8689AD20B5FED646@VALUED04C3B21F>
Message-ID: <4a92b131.1cbc720a.4066.ffffffdc@mx.google.com>

TO my knowledge, the deal is only with the MotoQ. In that, though, I don't
think the phone is widely supported by Verizon anymore, but persons wishing
to take advantage of the Talks deal can still purchase it. I could be
completely wrong, though. 

Take care, 

Liz 

email: 
liz.bottner at gmail.com 
Visit my livejournal: 
http://unsilenceddream.livejournal.com 
Follow me on Twitter: 
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From lilrichie411 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 01:25:54 2009
From: lilrichie411 at gmail.com (Jordan Richardson)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:25:54 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Survey for Audio Description
Message-ID: <ca301f5e0908241825i7603ee68n39c6d791f6bd8dc3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I am on the advisory board for a company called CaptionMax.  They make audio
descriptions for educational, and some leisure, videos.  I am doing a
presentation about how to get meadia accessaable to all people.  I am
therefore wondering just how many of you are getting, or have available to
you, audio description.  I will not use any of your names in the
presentation.  I will only use the figures I get from the survey.  When you
respond, simply put your answer to the question and what state you are from.

Again:

1)  Do you get audio description in the classroom?

2)  Do you at least have audio description available to you, but do not use
it?
 Thank you,

-- 
Jordan Richardson
lilrichie411 at gmail.com
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
--Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 03:57:46 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:57:46 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
In-Reply-To: <0B0B57E7FA3743089E3BB4F14EEFE2BA@HPdc79001>
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ef01ca244a$b703f470$0201a8c0@Serene>
	<0B0B57E7FA3743089E3BB4F14EEFE2BA@HPdc79001>
Message-ID: <20090825035746.GH44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Meghan,

I do believe you've hit upon the reason why scholarship winners are 
not all active Federationists.  The NFB selects students it believes 
have strong potential to lead or otherwise contribute to the 
organization in the future.

Some of those are Federationists already--students whose dreams are 
big, and their determination bigger.  We hope that they will use the 
investment to finance their dreams and perhaps go a little further 
than they thought they could.

Others have scarcely heard of the Federation before applying.  The 
committee tries to find those who will not accept the status quo.  
Any why not?  We of the National Federation of the Blind actively 
reject what they tell us is normal for a blind person.

It is only natural for someone who wants more to find common cause 
with us.  We are sick of scraping by month-to-month on the public's 
back.  We demand more for ourselves than a life of paratransit, party 
lines, and internet surfing.  We demand the opportunity to compete on 
the terms of the sighted, if we can.  As long as the opportunity is 
genuine, we find that our determination more than makes up for the 
shortcomings of blindness.  Not only can we compete, but we do it 
every single day.

We're always glad to find like-minded people.  =)

Joseph

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 09:32:43AM -0500, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>    I became involved in the NFB after recieving a state scholarship.  
> Honestly, I thought I would be likely to grab my money and run, but the  
> organization resonated so strongly with me that I have stayed.  I now do 
> all I can to help others feel that connection and find themselves.
>
> Meghan 
>
>
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 09:18:52 2009
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:18:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] it all had to start somewhere
In-Reply-To: <20090825035746.GH44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
References: <409c235c0908041354s56eca6fl47ad6f43b9559d43@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ef01ca244a$b703f470$0201a8c0@Serene>
	<0B0B57E7FA3743089E3BB4F14EEFE2BA@HPdc79001>
	<20090825035746.GH44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <409c235c0908250218k7a777630r8cb4f0c53280174c@mail.gmail.com>

i think that what's so  good to hear, and important to hear is that
you have individuals who found the federation through those members
who are positive role models.  This is one thing to always keep in
mind. can we do more than talk about the  philosiphy? can we  live  it
in what we do? can we identify those things that turn people away from
 the organization, and make ourselves aware of it, while at the same
time highlighting the great things that we do? The great role models
we've seen, the amazing people we've met? Amazing, not for their
blindness, but for their personality, their spirit. The spirit that
is not easily found in any human being.  Megan found it, as did
Serina,  when it's easy to miss it if one does not have a guide or a
reason to look.  We could be doing plenty of other things with the
time we  normally put into our divisions, states, conventions and so
on, but we don't.  Why is that? who do we hope to tuch in our lives,
in what we do here? .  What's  so great about the student division,
about  the federation is that each of us has the ability to tap into
that which brought us  to the federation and use that as a driving
force in a way to get people involved.

 Darian

On 8/24/09, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Meghan,
>
> I do believe you've hit upon the reason why scholarship winners are
> not all active Federationists.  The NFB selects students it believes
> have strong potential to lead or otherwise contribute to the
> organization in the future.
>
> Some of those are Federationists already--students whose dreams are
> big, and their determination bigger.  We hope that they will use the
> investment to finance their dreams and perhaps go a little further
> than they thought they could.
>
> Others have scarcely heard of the Federation before applying.  The
> committee tries to find those who will not accept the status quo.
> Any why not?  We of the National Federation of the Blind actively
> reject what they tell us is normal for a blind person.
>
> It is only natural for someone who wants more to find common cause
> with us.  We are sick of scraping by month-to-month on the public's
> back.  We demand more for ourselves than a life of paratransit, party
> lines, and internet surfing.  We demand the opportunity to compete on
> the terms of the sighted, if we can.  As long as the opportunity is
> genuine, we find that our determination more than makes up for the
> shortcomings of blindness.  Not only can we compete, but we do it
> every single day.
>
> We're always glad to find like-minded people.  =)
>
> Joseph
>
> --
> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
> If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 09:32:43AM -0500, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>    I became involved in the NFB after recieving a state scholarship.
>> Honestly, I thought I would be likely to grab my money and run, but the
>> organization resonated so strongly with me that I have stayed.  I now do
>> all I can to help others feel that connection and find themselves.
>>
>> Meghan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
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>
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From lawnmower84 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 25 13:23:59 2009
From: lawnmower84 at hotmail.com (Jacob Struiksma)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:23:59 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV212C1B1496EC67327CF138B5F80@phx.gbl>

 

  _____  

From: mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat
[mailto:mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:35 AM
To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List
Subject: RE: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?



Try:

Verizon Wireless (includes paging services)
(Airtouch, AllTel, Bell Atlantic Wireless, GTE Wireless, PCS Primeco are now
Verizon Wireless)
Michael Samsock, Counsel, Regulatory Law Group
1300 Eye Street, N.W., Suite 400 West
Washington, D.C. 20005
Tele 202-589-3768; Fax 202-589-3750
E-mail: michael.samsock at VerizonWireless.com

 

 

Frank

 

From: mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat
[mailto:mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:30 AM
To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List
Subject: RE: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?

 

If you are in the U.S. and have a disabilities related concern with any
telecommunications company you can obtain the contact information for their
disabilities officer/department from:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/service_providers.html

 

There is also contact information for telecommunications equipment
manufacturers on that site as well. For example to find VZ Wireless just
open that link and search the page for references to Verizon. Note there is
a difference between Verizon and Verizon Wireless.

Hth

Frank

 

 

From: mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat
[mailto:mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Jim Prather
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:49 AM
To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List
Subject: Re: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?

 

Does Verizon have such a number?  I don't know because I use AT&T; does
T-Mobile, U.S. Cellular or Metro PCS have such a number?

 

James (Jim) "Turtle" Prather
MSB Class of 1974
CMU Class of 1980

 

"Red and White Flow on Forever."  (from School Alma Mater)

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To: 'Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone  <mailto:mss_mailing at codefactory.cat>
Users List' 

Sent: August 25, 2009 01:43

Subject: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?

 

Hi folks,

 

Would appreciate the number for the disabilities offices of Verizon.

 

Thanks.

 

Sati



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From lawnmower84 at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 25 13:24:21 2009
From: lawnmower84 at hotmail.com (Jacob Struiksma)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:24:21 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?
Message-ID: <COL0-DAV5695065477AC0959446999B5F80@phx.gbl>

 

  _____  

From: mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat
[mailto:mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:30 AM
To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List
Subject: RE: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?



If you are in the U.S. and have a disabilities related concern with any
telecommunications company you can obtain the contact information for their
disabilities officer/department from:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/service_providers.html

 

There is also contact information for telecommunications equipment
manufacturers on that site as well. For example to find VZ Wireless just
open that link and search the page for references to Verizon. Note there is
a difference between Verizon and Verizon Wireless.

Hth

Frank

 

 

From: mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat
[mailto:mss_mailing-bounces at codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Jim Prather
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:49 AM
To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List
Subject: Re: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?

 

Does Verizon have such a number?  I don't know because I use AT&T; does
T-Mobile, U.S. Cellular or Metro PCS have such a number?

 

James (Jim) "Turtle" Prather
MSB Class of 1974
CMU Class of 1980

 

"Red and White Flow on Forever."  (from School Alma Mater)

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Sent: August 25, 2009 01:43

Subject: [MSS] Verizon disabilities office number?

 

Hi folks,

 

Would appreciate the number for the disabilities offices of Verizon.

 

Thanks.

 

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From JFreeh at nfb.org  Tue Aug 25 14:58:05 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:58:05 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] National Federation of the Blind and Blind Social Security
 Beneficiary File Complaint with Social Security Administration
Message-ID: <auto-000113678401@mailfront1.g2host.com>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (cell)

cdanielsen at nfb.org

National Federation of the Blind and Blind Social Security Beneficiary
File Complaint with Social Security Administration

SSA's Inaccessible Web Site Discriminates Against the Blind

Baltimore, Maryland (August 24, 2009): The National Federation of the 
Blind, the nation's oldest and largest organization of blind people 
and the leading advocate for equal access by the blind to information 
technology, and Margot Downey, a blind Social Security beneficiary 
from Buffalo, New York, filed an administrative complaint today with 
the Social Security Administration (SSA).  The complaint asserts that 
the SSA's Web site violates Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act 
because it is inaccessible to blind people who use text-to-speech 
screen access technology or Braille displays to access information on 
the Internet.  Because of the inaccessibility of the SSA Web site, 
blind people cannot fill out forms and questionnaires on the site or 
access information about their benefits.

Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National Federation of the Blind, 
said: "In an age where the Internet is a part of everyday life, blind 
people must have equal access to the information and resources 
provided on the World Wide Web.  In particular, the United States 
government has a legal and moral obligation to ensure that the 
information it provides on the Internet is equally accessible to all 
Americans, including the blind.  The National Federation of the Blind 
demands equal access for blind Social Security beneficiaries and will 
tolerate nothing less."

  Margot Downey, a blind Social Security beneficiary from Buffalo, 
New York, said: "As an active and productive blind individual, I 
depend on the Internet to access and update all kinds of information, 
including the Social Security and Medicare benefits I receive.  I 
hope that the Social Security Administration will take swift action 
to correct the accessibility problems with its Web site so that blind 
Americans like me will have equal access to the valuable information 
the SSA Web site contains."

Complainants are represented by attorneys Daniel F. Goldstein and 
Allison L. Harper of Brown, Goldstein & Levy, LLP, 120 E. Baltimore 
Street, Suite 1700, Baltimore, Maryland  21202, (410) 962-1030, fax: 
(410) 385-0869, <mailto:dfg at browngold.com>dfg at browngold.com, 
<mailto:ah at browngold.com>ah at browngold.com, 
<http://www.browngold.com/>www.browngold.com.

###


From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 18:57:07 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Cumbiambera2005)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:07 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
Message-ID: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>

hello nabsters,
I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Ashley


From JFreeh at nfb.org  Tue Aug 25 21:49:28 2009
From: JFreeh at nfb.org (Freeh,
	Jessica)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:49:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Unable to Read or Write,
 New High School Graduate Details  Struggle
Message-ID: <auto-000113776864@mailfront1.g2host.com>



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



CONTACT:

Chris Danielsen

Director of Public Relations

National Federation of the Blind

(410) 659-9314, extension 2330

(410) 262-1281 (Cell)

<mailto:cdanielsen at nfb.org>cdanielsen at nfb.org


Unable to Read or Write, New High School Graduate Details Struggle

Baltimore, Maryland (August 25, 2009): Denzel 
Ferges graduated from high school on June 6.  But 
when he was asked to address a gathering of 
students on July 29, he had to memorize his 
speech rather than reading it.  Denzel does not 
have enough vision to read print effectively, and 
he was not taught to read Braille.  For all 
practical purposes, he graduated from high school unable to read.



  “I wish that I could be reading my remarks to 
you in Braille, but I am not able to do so 
because I was not given the opportunity to learn 
Braille in school,” Ferges told an audience of 
two hundred blind students and their mentors 
gathered for the National Federation of the Blind 
Youth Slam, a summer science academy for blind 
high school students.  “So with that being said, 
I have to seek further training to learn Braille 
and other important blindness skills.”



Denzel is not alone.  In fact, nine out of ten 
blind children in America’s public schools do not 
know and are not being taught how to read and 
write using Braille.  But reading Braille, 
especially when learned at an early age, is just 
as effective as reading print.  Braille is also 
the only system that allows blind people to write 
and to read what they have written with speed and 
efficiency.  That is why the National Federation 
of the Blind wants to make sure that young people 
like Denzel graduate from high school with the 
ability to read and write, and that every blind 
child in America and every adult losing vision is 
given the opportunity to learn Braille.  But 
blind Americans need your help to address the crisis in Braille literacy.



Congress authorized the minting in 2009 of 
400,000 Louis Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollars 
to mark the two-hundredth anniversary of the 
birth of Louis Braille (1809–1852) and to support 
the efforts of the National Federation of the 
Blind­the nation’s leading advocate for 
Braille­to promote literacy among blind 
Americans.  This unique and beautiful 
commemorative coin is the first U.S. currency to 
feature tactile, readable Braille.  These coins 
will no longer be available after December 31, 
2009.  Today the National Federation of the Blind 
is kicking off a national campaign in which its 
affiliates in each state (plus the District of 
Columbia and Puerto Rico) and over seven hundred 
local chapters will sell 100,000 coins by 
November 1, 2009.  A portion of the money from 
sales of the 2009 Louis Braille Bicentennial 
Silver Dollar will be used to support the NFB’s 
“Braille Readers are Leaders” campaign, a 
national initiative created to double the number 
of blind children learning Braille by 2015, 
improve certification standards for teachers of 
Braille, and conduct innovative programs to support Braille literacy.



Dr. Marc Maurer, President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, said: “The Braille 
Readers are Leaders literacy campaign and the 
sale of these beautiful Louis Braille silver 
dollars are among the most important initiatives 
the National Federation of the Blind has ever 
undertaken.  The education of tens of thousands 
of blind children across the nation and the 
successful rehabilitation of adults who are 
losing vision depend on our success.  We are 
asking all Americans to help us in ensuring 
literacy, education, productivity, and success 
for every blind American by purchasing a Louis 
Braille Bicentennial Silver Dollar today.”



Those interested in ordering a Louis Braille 
Bicentennial Silver Dollar should visit 
<http://www.braille.org./>www.braille.org or call 
1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468).  For more information 
about the National Federation of the Blind and 
the Braille Readers are Leaders campaign, visit 
<http://www.braille.org/>www.braille.org.





###



About the National Federation of the Blind

With more than 50,000 members, the National 
Federation of the Blind is the largest and most 
influential membership organization of blind 
people in the United States.  The NFB improves 
blind people’s lives through advocacy, education, 
research, technology, and programs encouraging 
independence and self-confidence.  It is the 
leading force in the blindness field today and 
the voice of the nation's blind.  In January 2004 
the NFB opened the National Federation of the 
Blind Jernigan Institute, the first research and 
training center in the United States for the blind led by the blind.



From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 21:49:51 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:49:51 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF39DCD244194BEF972AE85B4463F488@teal6e6857f643>

hi Ashley

First are you using jaws? i believe you said that but not sure. If you are 
using the latest version of jaws which is 10 then jaws is able to see PDF 
files. Just open the file in adobe probably by by a link then ALT to file 
and save as. Then tab down to save as text document.

             best wishes
            -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> hello nabsters,
> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> Ashley
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From serenacucco at verizon.net  Tue Aug 25 21:50:53 2009
From: serenacucco at verizon.net (Serena)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:50:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene>

Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and I 
don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> hello nabsters,
> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> Ashley
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nabs-l:
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 25 22:58:20 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:58:20 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Survey for Audio Description
References: <ca301f5e0908241825i7603ee68n39c6d791f6bd8dc3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8D6B5E2BFE147959630D1C85F732118@teal6e6857f643>

yes with me attending a smaller college i am well accomodated with the 
professors saying everything that i cannot see whether other students can or 
cant
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Richardson" <lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "MnABS listserve" <mn-abs at nfbnet.org>; "WABS listserv" 
<wabs at nfbwis.org>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Survey for Audio Description


> Hello all,
>
> I am on the advisory board for a company called CaptionMax.  They make 
> audio
> descriptions for educational, and some leisure, videos.  I am doing a
> presentation about how to get meadia accessaable to all people.  I am
> therefore wondering just how many of you are getting, or have available to
> you, audio description.  I will not use any of your names in the
> presentation.  I will only use the figures I get from the survey.  When 
> you
> respond, simply put your answer to the question and what state you are 
> from.
>
> Again:
>
> 1)  Do you get audio description in the classroom?
>
> 2)  Do you at least have audio description available to you, but do not 
> use
> it?
> Thank you,
>
> -- 
> Jordan Richardson
> lilrichie411 at gmail.com
> "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
> --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 25 23:28:28 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:28:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
Message-ID: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>

Good evening all, 
I have a roommate who is in the process of searching without success for a textbook for one of his classes. The title of the book is: Understanding symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 3rd Ed

He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's office of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a difficult time converting the materials. As we all know, this can be a rather frustrating situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter would be much appreciated. 


Best Regards:
Dave Wright
Work Phone: 347-422-7085
Email:
dwrigh6 at gmail.com
WebPage:
http://www.knfbreader.com

From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 25 23:38:49 2009
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley  Bramlett)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:38:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene>
Message-ID: <BEA731C974AA451FA0DA795F3286710B@Ashley>

Hi,
I don't know how to do it.  But I heard OCR software like Kurzweil and 
Openbook will convert pdf to text.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and I 
> don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> hello nabsters,
>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> Ashley
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nabs-l:
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>
>
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>
> http://www.eset.com
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> 



From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 00:38:44 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Ashley)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:38:44 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <AF39DCD244194BEF972AE85B4463F488@teal6e6857f643>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AF39DCD244194BEF972AE85B4463F488@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <4804d1140908251738l78081961q92870be5abf7670c@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I am using jaws 9. So I'm not sure if it'll do it, does
anyone know if that will work with jaws 9?

On 8/25/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi Ashley
>
> First are you using jaws? i believe you said that but not sure. If you are
> using the latest version of jaws which is 10 then jaws is able to see PDF
> files. Just open the file in adobe probably by by a link then ALT to file
> and save as. Then tab down to save as text document.
>
>              best wishes
>             -Teal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:57 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> hello nabsters,
>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> Ashley
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
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>>
>
>
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From albertyoo1 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 26 00:39:12 2009
From: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com (Albert Yoo)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:39:12 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <BEA731C974AA451FA0DA795F3286710B@Ashley>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene> 
	<BEA731C974AA451FA0DA795F3286710B@Ashley>
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Ashley, I know open book converts pdf to text. Who was looking to do this on the list? Write of list to albertyoo1 at hotmail.com I will explain how to convert to text from PDF. 
 
> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:38:49 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
> 
> Hi,
> I don't know how to do it. But I heard OCR software like Kurzweil and 
> Openbook will convert pdf to text.
> 
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
> 
> 
> > Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and I 
> > don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.
> >
> > Serena
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
> > Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
> >
> >
> >> hello nabsters,
> >> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
> >> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
> >> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
> >> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
> >> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
> >> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
> >> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
> >> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> >> Ashley
> >>
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From myangelblessings at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 26 01:23:46 2009
From: myangelblessings at hotmail.com (Ben Peters)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:23:46 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] online tutoring
Message-ID: <BLU141-W1461F4CD7287FF60DCAC7CC2F70@phx.gbl>


 
Hi all, I have a unique question. 
 
I started my semester yesterday, and my college has changed there online course/class information system (they use to use blackboard and changed   to their own network). However, that isn’t my problem. 
The college is now offering online tutoring free of charge for all students in any subject through tutor.com which students log into the college’s online system to be connected to tutor.com and these services. I am all ready having some trouble with a little bit of math, and my campus won’t have tutors available to next week (on extremely small satellite campus). However, I tried to use the tutor.com service a few minutes ago. I had no problem with the form and putting in information to request a tutor. However, once I was connected, it was completely inaccessible; from the little vision I have it looked like an electronic book had it books turning with certain parts in bold or highlighted. I am a jaws user because my vision isn’t good enough to constantly use it and things have to be super large for me to see. So I was trying to do this jaws alone. I assumed that it would work like a chat or IM where the tutor could write back to me and I could write to them etc. But I don’t think that is the case now, or I’m not sure. I decided that the service wasn’t going to work for me because of accessibility. The idea of it is nice if I need help after hours or when physical tutors aren’t available. 
 
I am just curious if anyone has tried online tutoring for any subjects, particularly math, and if so what was your experience? Also I am curious if anyone knows if such a service is required under any laws to be accessible I.E. ADA, Rehab Act, and Education etc? I know schools have to make instructional websites accessible, but this service isn’t provided directly from the college; the college contracts out (I think) to the website for services. I am just curious if this would be something to try to improve on for accessibility and if it has to be accessible. 
 
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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 02:55:39 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:55:39 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
References: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
Message-ID: <F31F42EE5CF945DCB45740BB59F558C9@Dezman>

I know that NLS has a Braille book on logic that he might consider borrowing 
as a reference.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook


> Good evening all,
> I have a roommate who is in the process of searching without success for a 
> textbook for one of his classes. The title of the book is: Understanding 
> symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 3rd Ed
>
> He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's office 
> of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a difficult time 
> converting the materials. As we all know, this can be a rather frustrating 
> situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Best Regards:
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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 02:58:40 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:58:40 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com><008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene>
	<BEA731C974AA451FA0DA795F3286710B@Ashley>
Message-ID: <E9FC188712344A14B9A61A171F3E62F7@Dezman>

Also,

I don't know the exact web site, but do a google search for a free program 
called pdf 2 txt. Note that it's the number 2.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> Hi,
> I don't know how to do it.  But I heard OCR software like Kurzweil and 
> Openbook will convert pdf to text.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and 
>> I don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.
>>
>> Serena
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>>
>>
>>> hello nabsters,
>>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>>> Ashley
>>>
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 03:11:19 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:11:19 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene>
Message-ID: <4FA056B4E90C4E179B8EAA3F55D6D7C3@teal6e6857f643>

hey wait...

where are you getting this pDF file scanned textbook? Most resources offer 
you help on acsessing their equipment and if all else fails....

www.google.com

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and I 
> don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> hello nabsters,
>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> Ashley
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 03:13:21 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:13:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com><AF39DCD244194BEF972AE85B4463F488@teal6e6857f643>
	<4804d1140908251738l78081961q92870be5abf7670c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B3D9B37B4BB48CC983A4C9DC7B106BD@teal6e6857f643>

why dont you upgrade

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> Actually, I am using jaws 9. So I'm not sure if it'll do it, does
> anyone know if that will work with jaws 9?
>
> On 8/25/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi Ashley
>>
>> First are you using jaws? i believe you said that but not sure. If you 
>> are
>> using the latest version of jaws which is 10 then jaws is able to see PDF
>> files. Just open the file in adobe probably by by a link then ALT to file
>> and save as. Then tab down to save as text document.
>>
>>              best wishes
>>             -Teal
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:57 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>>
>>
>>> hello nabsters,
>>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
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From fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 03:35:42 2009
From: fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com (Franandah Damstra)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:35:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Survey for Audio Description
In-Reply-To: <D8D6B5E2BFE147959630D1C85F732118@teal6e6857f643>
References: <ca301f5e0908241825i7603ee68n39c6d791f6bd8dc3@mail.gmail.com>
	<D8D6B5E2BFE147959630D1C85F732118@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <a7b0cbec0908252035v3b334bf4o601a3cb5da889102@mail.gmail.com>

1. No
2. Not in a classroom setting, but I do get leisure films in descriptive video.
~Franandah

On 8/25/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> yes with me attending a smaller college i am well accomodated with the
> professors saying everything that i cannot see whether other students can or
> cant
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:25 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Survey for Audio Description
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am on the advisory board for a company called CaptionMax.  They make
>> audio
>> descriptions for educational, and some leisure, videos.  I am doing a
>> presentation about how to get meadia accessaable to all people.  I am
>> therefore wondering just how many of you are getting, or have available to
>> you, audio description.  I will not use any of your names in the
>> presentation.  I will only use the figures I get from the survey.  When
>> you
>> respond, simply put your answer to the question and what state you are
>> from.
>>
>> Again:
>>
>> 1)  Do you get audio description in the classroom?
>>
>> 2)  Do you at least have audio description available to you, but do not
>> use
>> it?
>> Thank you,
>>
>> --
>> Jordan Richardson
>> lilrichie411 at gmail.com
>> "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
>> --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 07:55:24 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Ashley)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:55:24 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <E9FC188712344A14B9A61A171F3E62F7@Dezman>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<008d01ca25ce$1e4ca2b0$0201a8c0@Serene>
	<BEA731C974AA451FA0DA795F3286710B@Ashley>
	<E9FC188712344A14B9A61A171F3E62F7@Dezman>
Message-ID: <4804d1140908260055q731d2140g234cd908c663057d@mail.gmail.com>

I think i have used this program before, but last time I tried
downloading it, it said something about it being a trial version. So
was not sure if it would be fully functional for the task I am trying
to accomplish. But I will keep that in mind as I will need to try
everything I can think of. Thanks so much for your suggestions!

On 8/25/09, Dezman Jackson <jackson.dezman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also,
>
> I don't know the exact web site, but do a google search for a free program
> called pdf 2 txt. Note that it's the number 2.
>
> Dezman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I don't know how to do it.  But I heard OCR software like Kurzweil and
>> Openbook will convert pdf to text.
>>
>> Ashley
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>>
>>
>>> Some PDfFs are made to be accessible with Jaws, but some just aren't and
>>> I don't think you'll know if it is, until you get the book.
>>>
>>> Serena
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello nabsters,
>>>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>>>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>>>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>>>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>>>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>>>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>>>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>>>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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From dandrews at visi.com  Wed Aug 26 08:50:36 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:50:36 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
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How well a pdf file reads mostly depends on how it was created.  It 
must, for example contain text, not images.  It can be marked up to 
help readability, but most aren't.

First, you should have recent versions of Jaws and Adobe reader, as 
both have improved over time.  Then, Adobe Reader can save text -- 
although the formatting generally isn't great.

Dave

At 01:57 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:
>hello nabsters,
>I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>Ashley
>
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From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 26 11:40:19 2009
From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:40:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject)
Message-ID: <614731.17521.qm@web30906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

WARNING: 
To those who are blind or visually impaired who want or are taking the prep courses for the GRE.  Take the prep courses on your own with a private tutor.  Do not take a class through Kaplan.  You and any one supporting you will not get the $1100.00 you paid for since both the website is inaccessible and you are not given proper accessible course material in alternative formats usable to a screen-reader or screen magnification program in a timely manor.  
The course requires individuals to utilize the textbook and internet resources in an interactive classroom setting where the instructor demonstrates concepts and the students read or openly discuss specific examples from the text in the textbook.   
Even working through the representatives of the local Kaplan centers, the issues fall back on Kaplan as a corporation since you are lead to believe that you are the first blind or visually in pared person that Kaplan has come across.  With a founding some 50+ years ago, I believe that Kaplan has had more than one visually impaired or blind person register for its courses.  
Kaplan has a refund policy which clearly states that one is not able to get a full refund after the third course session.  The initial diagnostic examination counts as the first course.  Kaplan is more than willing to make standard accommodations to those who require them for this.  When one chooses to obtain help through representatives from Kaplan for there accessibility issues, the representatives will diligently work with you once one has completed two consecutive class sessions.  This means that the deadline for any refunds has passed.  
Regarding the kaptest.com website, do not be mislead.  The main page is completely accessible.  The accessibility issues come up once you register and are able to create a student account.  A student account can only be completed once one has authorized either a classroom instruction or tutoring session with a major credit card.  The accessibility issues result from the personal student portals being formatted to support flash content and the lack of Kaplan integrating the website accessibility standards referred to as the W3c.org/waiweb access initiative and /TR technical reference pages through adobe systems.
Unless one has there own personal equipment to utilize, one is not able to utilize there local Kaplan center’s equipment since none of the centers have any accessible screen magnifications or screen reading software on sight.
In addition, for those who choose to study and prepare for the GRE through there local colleges or universities, those individuals would have the same problems since the teachings and course related material is still channeled through Kaplan and not the local colleges or University.  Kaplan outsources itself within local colleges and universities to offer there programs since Kaplan is a monopoly as a service provider.
Kaplan’s main headquarters are located in New York City, a place so diverse yet so segregated to those few who possess special personal corporate interests or political clout.  .  




      


From Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com  Wed Aug 26 13:20:25 2009
From: Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com (Rachel Becker)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:20:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJIEPJCHAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>

If you have Kurzweil or something like it, you can use it to open the PDF
file and it works pretty well.
Good luck to you and everyone with the new school year.
Rachel

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


hello nabsters,
I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Ashley

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From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 26 14:14:57 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:14:57 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
References: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
	<F31F42EE5CF945DCB45740BB59F558C9@Dezman>
Message-ID: <8EE65EDF93734DF09210CDB2E072ED96@dwrigh6>

Thanks a lot. I'll take a look this morning. Any further thoughts would be 
much appreciated.


Best Regards:
Dave Wright
Work Phone: 347-422-7085
Email:
dwrigh6 at gmail.com
WebPage:
http://www.knfbreader.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dezman Jackson" <jackson.dezman at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook


>I know that NLS has a Braille book on logic that he might consider 
>borrowing as a reference.
>
> Dezman
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Wright" <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:28 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
>
>
>> Good evening all,
>> I have a roommate who is in the process of searching without success for 
>> a textbook for one of his classes. The title of the book is: 
>> Understanding symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 3rd Ed
>>
>> He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's 
>> office of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a 
>> difficult time converting the materials. As we all know, this can be a 
>> rather frustrating situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter would 
>> be much appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards:
>> Dave Wright
>> Work Phone: 347-422-7085
>> Email:
>> dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>> WebPage:
>> http://www.knfbreader.com
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 26 15:32:46 2009
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley  Bramlett)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:32:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com><AF39DCD244194BEF972AE85B4463F488@teal6e6857f643><4804d1140908251738l78081961q92870be5abf7670c@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B3D9B37B4BB48CC983A4C9DC7B106BD@teal6e6857f643>
Message-ID: <00F5BC7F014D4EDF8642AE79B53DA288@Ashley>

Hi,
I had jaws 9 and i found it will read some pdf files.  It won't read image 
files.  I'm not sure jaws 10 can either.  Access to pdf has improved but you 
won't know if its readable until you try.  If not accessible use your OCR 
scanning software if you have it or print the needed text and scan it.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Teal Bloodworth" <tealbloodworth at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> why dont you upgrade
>
>        -Teal
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
>> Actually, I am using jaws 9. So I'm not sure if it'll do it, does
>> anyone know if that will work with jaws 9?
>>
>> On 8/25/09, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi Ashley
>>>
>>> First are you using jaws? i believe you said that but not sure. If you 
>>> are
>>> using the latest version of jaws which is 10 then jaws is able to see 
>>> PDF
>>> files. Just open the file in adobe probably by by a link then ALT to 
>>> file
>>> and save as. Then tab down to save as text document.
>>>
>>>              best wishes
>>>             -Teal
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cumbiambera2005" <cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:57 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello nabsters,
>>>> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
>>>> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
>>>> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
>>>> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
>>>> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
>>>> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
>>>> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
>>>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 15:37:21 2009
From: cumbiambera2005 at gmail.com (Ashley)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:37:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJIEPJCHAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
	<FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJIEPJCHAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
Message-ID: <4804d1140908260837l26f98896gfa20bdb1bb1fc026@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Well, what the person at student services told me was that I would
need to open adobe first, then open the file. However, I get the
feeling this person doesn't really know, and she isn't a jaws user so
that might complicate things a bit. I'm going to see what I can find
as far as the pdf2txt, i may try that. If all else fails, I may just
have to ask her to see if they can get me an alternate option. But I'm
not really sure what she meant by "open adobe first and then open the
file in adobe", so I will have to work with it.

On 8/26/09, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
> If you have Kurzweil or something like it, you can use it to open the PDF
> file and it works pretty well.
> Good luck to you and everyone with the new school year.
> Rachel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Cumbiambera2005
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
> hello nabsters,
> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> Ashley
>
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From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 15:44:05 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:44:05 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
In-Reply-To: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
References: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
Message-ID: <20090826154405.GK44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Dave,

Were I your roommate, I would file a complaint with the Office for 
Civil Rights in the Department of Education straight away.  The 
university has an obligation to provide an accommodation here, and 
the recommendation not to take the course is no accommodation!

A good course in logic should be required study in my opinion because 
of the value I have gained from it.  It was required for the CS 
degree I originally worked toward, but has been applicable to every 
other field I have even investigated.

They would have the same trouble with a symbolic logic text that they 
have with a math text.  Do they recommend that he not take math 
either?  This is inexcusable.

Joseph

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 06:28:28PM -0500, Dave Wright wrote:
>Good evening all, 
>I have a roommate who is in the process of searching without success for a textbook for one of his classes. The title of the book is: Understanding symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 3rd Ed
>
>He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's office of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a difficult time converting the materials. As we all know, this can be a rather frustrating situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter would be much appreciated. 
>
>
>Best Regards:
>Dave Wright
>Work Phone: 347-422-7085
>Email:
>dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>WebPage:
>http://www.knfbreader.com
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From william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 26 16:02:10 2009
From: william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com (William ODonnell)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] Apoligies prior message was cut off:
Message-ID: <281338.34446.qm@web30907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I see that some have thought my message about my current expearience of studying for the GRE was a spam filled message.  
The information below outlines my experiences while studying for the Graduate Record Examination (GRE).  I need some advice on how to proceed forward since I am not getting what I have paid for.
WARNING: 
To those who are blind or visually impaired who want or are taking the prep courses for the GRE.  Take the prep courses on your own with a private tutor.  Do not take a class through Kaplan.  You and any one supporting you will not get the $1100.00 you paid for since both the website is inaccessible and you are not given proper accessible course material in alternative formats usable to a screen-reader or screen magnification program in a timely manor.  
The course requires individuals to utilize the textbook and internet resources in an interactive classroom setting where the instructor demonstrates concepts and the students read or openly discuss specific examples from the text in the textbook.   
Even working through the representatives of the local Kaplan centers, the issues fall back on Kaplan as a corporation since you are lead to believe that you are the first blind or visually in pared person that Kaplan has come across.  With a founding some 50+ years ago, I believe that Kaplan has had more than one visually impaired or blind person register for its courses.  
Kaplan has a refund policy which clearly states that one is not able to get a full refund after the third course session.  The initial diagnostic examination counts as the first course.  Kaplan is more than willing to make standard accommodations to those who require them for this.  When one chooses to obtain help through representatives from Kaplan for there accessibility issues, the representatives will diligently work with you once one has completed two consecutive class sessions.  This means that the deadline for any refunds has passed.  
Regarding the kaptest.com website, do not be mislead.  The main page is completely accessible.  The accessibility issues come up once you register and are able to create a student account.  A student account can only be completed once one has authorized either a classroom instruction or tutoring session with a major credit card.  The accessibility issues result from the personal student portals being formatted to support flash content and the lack of Kaplan integrating the website accessibility standards referred to as the W3c.org/waiweb access initiative and /TR technical reference pages through adobe systems.
Unless one has there own personal equipment to utilize, one is not able to utilize there local Kaplan center’s equipment since none of the centers have any accessible screen magnifications or screen reading software on sight.
In addition, for those who choose to study and prepare for the GRE through there local colleges or universities, those individuals would have the same problems since the teachings and course related material is still channeled through Kaplan and not the local colleges or University.  Kaplan outsources itself within local colleges and universities to offer there programs since Kaplan is a monopoly as a service provider.
Kaplan’s main headquarters are located in New York City, a place so diverse yet so segregated to those few who possess special personal corporate interests or political clout.  .  




      


From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 26 17:16:32 2009
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley  Bramlett)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:16:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
References: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
	<20090826154405.GK44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
Message-ID: <090C885BAEDD44F28A0DF6F303E88026@Ashley>

Joseph,

I agree that the university has an obligation to provide accomodations and 
certainly to recommend not taking the class is no accomodation.

I was at Marymount and I also was told not to take a class.  It was a 
communication class named broadcast delivery and students had to prepare 
scripts and deliver on video for it.  They said that I wouldn't see and thus 
be able to practice the nonverbal communication such as gestures.  It didn't 
help the instructor was absent and the substitutes I had could not 
accomodate me; the instructor was away on medical leave a few weeks.  The 
students practiced broadcast delivery such as public service announcements 
by reading the text and handouts.  I read braille but this was not in 
braille or large print.  So I couldn't do it.
My point being the university did not accomodate me and they pressured me to 
drop the class and I did.

I did not know you could file complaints.  I thought that was for grades 
K-12.
If I go back to school for another degree or grad school I'll keep this in 
mind.

How do you file complaints
with the office of civil rights in the department of education?
What happens after you do it?  I suppose you have to prove harm to justify 
your complaint.  How do they resolve complaints?

Thanks.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook


> Dave,
>
> Were I your roommate, I would file a complaint with the Office for Civil 
> Rights in the Department of Education straight away.  The university has 
> an obligation to provide an accommodation here, and the recommendation not 
> to take the course is no accommodation!
>
> A good course in logic should be required study in my opinion because of 
> the value I have gained from it.  It was required for the CS degree I 
> originally worked toward, but has been applicable to every other field I 
> have even investigated.
>
> They would have the same trouble with a symbolic logic text that they have 
> with a math text.  Do they recommend that he not take math either?  This 
> is inexcusable.
>
> Joseph
>
> -- 
> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
> If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 06:28:28PM -0500, Dave Wright wrote:
>>Good evening all, I have a roommate who is in the process of searching 
>>without success for a textbook for one of his classes. The title of the 
>>book is: Understanding symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 3rd Ed
>>
>>He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's office 
>>of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a difficult time 
>>converting the materials. As we all know, this can be a rather frustrating 
>>situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter would be much appreciated.
>>
>>Best Regards:
>>Dave Wright
>>Work Phone: 347-422-7085
>>Email:
>>dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>>WebPage:
>>http://www.knfbreader.com
>>_______________________________________________
>>nabs-l mailing list
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From: agrima at nbp.org (Tony Grima)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:29:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NBP-Announce: Internet Explorer 8 with Jaws, Window-Eyes,
 and  System Access
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This nifty reference card lists keyboard commands for Microsoft's
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 26 17:44:33 2009
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley  Bramlett)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:44:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Apoligies prior message was cut off:
References: <281338.34446.qm@web30907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4FE40FCB676741F7BF96DAD803C4793B@Ashley>

Hi,
I don't know what to say.  That is terrible!  Take the prep course with a 
tutor for now.  Also demand you get your money back.  If they won't 
accomodate you you shouldn't have to pay for a service you cannot take place 
in.  Other than getting a lawyer involved to threaten suing them I don't 
know what to say.  I assume you explained the problem to the company and 
they refused to implement changes to help make the website accessible.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William ODonnell" <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com>
To: <humanser at nfbnet.org>; <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>; 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <Nyagdu at nfbnet.org>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; 
<Jobs at nfbnet.org>; <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; 
<work-at-home-for-the-visually-impaired at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Apoligies prior message was cut off:


>I see that some have thought my message about my current expearience of 
>studying for the GRE was a spam filled message.
> The information below outlines my experiences while studying for the 
> Graduate Record Examination (GRE). I need some advice on how to proceed 
> forward since I am not getting what I have paid for.
> WARNING:
> To those who are blind or visually impaired who want or are taking the 
> prep courses for the GRE. Take the prep courses on your own with a private 
> tutor. Do not take a class through Kaplan. You and any one supporting you 
> will not get the $1100.00 you paid for since both the website is 
> inaccessible and you are not given proper accessible course material in 
> alternative formats usable to a screen-reader or screen magnification 
> program in a timely manor.
> The course requires individuals to utilize the textbook and internet 
> resources in an interactive classroom setting where the instructor 
> demonstrates concepts and the students read or openly discuss specific 
> examples from the text in the textbook.
> Even working through the representatives of the local Kaplan centers, the 
> issues fall back on Kaplan as a corporation since you are lead to believe 
> that you are the first blind or visually in pared person that Kaplan has 
> come across. With a founding some 50+ years ago, I believe that Kaplan has 
> had more than one visually impaired or blind person register for its 
> courses.
> Kaplan has a refund policy which clearly states that one is not able to 
> get a full refund after the third course session. The initial diagnostic 
> examination counts as the first course. Kaplan is more than willing to 
> make standard accommodations to those who require them for this. When one 
> chooses to obtain help through representatives from Kaplan for there 
> accessibility issues, the representatives will diligently work with you 
> once one has completed two consecutive class sessions. This means that the 
> deadline for any refunds has passed.
> Regarding the kaptest.com website, do not be mislead. The main page is 
> completely accessible. The accessibility issues come up once you register 
> and are able to create a student account. A student account can only be 
> completed once one has authorized either a classroom instruction or 
> tutoring session with a major credit card. The accessibility issues result 
> from the personal student portals being formatted to support flash content 
> and the lack of Kaplan integrating the website accessibility standards 
> referred to as the W3c.org/waiweb access initiative and /TR technical 
> reference pages through adobe systems.
> Unless one has there own personal equipment to utilize, one is not able to 
> utilize there local Kaplan center’s equipment since none of the centers 
> have any accessible screen magnifications or screen reading software on 
> sight.
> In addition, for those who choose to study and prepare for the GRE through 
> there local colleges or universities, those individuals would have the 
> same problems since the teachings and course related material is still 
> channeled through Kaplan and not the local colleges or University. Kaplan 
> outsources itself within local colleges and universities to offer there 
> programs since Kaplan is a monopoly as a service provider.
> Kaplan’s main headquarters are located in New York City, a place so 
> diverse yet so segregated to those few who possess special personal 
> corporate interests or political clout. .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 20:33:24 2009
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:33:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Symbolic Logic
In-Reply-To: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <E72EB96166C7414C9737AE03B2248710@VALUED04C3B21F>

Hey D Wright,

While symbolic logic does have some unique characters, it is far less
complicated than many science and math fields. I not only took logic, I
tutored it for two years. Difficulties with the symbols are easily overcome.
I do not have any info on the particular book you referenced; I used a
different text. The suggestion that he not take the class is completely out
of line, but perhaps before filing complaints with the DoEd, he might
consider talking to the professor. I did take exams orally, but used symbol
substitutions such as a "U" in place of the horseshoe symbol, which denotes
a conditional, when doing homework. The braille book previously referenced
might serve him quite well. I have only seen two texts, but my impression is
pretty much that logic is logic. There might be different ways of talking
about and explaining concepts, but the terminology and symbols should be
consistent. Unless there is homework taken from the text, he might do fine
learning out of an alternative text and attending lecture.

Hope it's useful,

Sean



From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 20:37:42 2009
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:37:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] pdf conversion in Kurzweil
In-Reply-To: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <7C27B4022B474449840288CE11EC11E2@VALUED04C3B21F>

To convert a pdf: Open the pdf file. Press control plus P to open the print
dialogue box. Select the Kurzweil virtual printer as the printer you wish to
use. Press 'OK'.

How well this works, of course, depends on how clean the pdf is, if it is
simply a scanned image. I have had no problems accessing pdf's in this way.

Sean




From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 21:31:47 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:31:47 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] pdf conversion in Kurzweil
References: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<7C27B4022B474449840288CE11EC11E2@VALUED04C3B21F>
Message-ID: <AF22F7670822482D9E6FBF7420E3F43E@Dezman>

This process also works with OpenBook the same way as Sean described it 
except in the print dialog, select the freedom Import printer.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Whalen" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] pdf conversion in Kurzweil


> To convert a pdf: Open the pdf file. Press control plus P to open the 
> print
> dialogue box. Select the Kurzweil virtual printer as the printer you wish 
> to
> use. Press 'OK'.
>
> How well this works, of course, depends on how clean the pdf is, if it is
> simply a scanned image. I have had no problems accessing pdf's in this 
> way.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
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From serenacucco at verizon.net  Wed Aug 26 22:58:35 2009
From: serenacucco at verizon.net (Serena)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:58:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Apoligies prior message was cut off:
References: <281338.34446.qm@web30907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ab01ca26a0$bde8bd90$0201a8c0@Serene>

Hi William

I don't know what to tell you to do, but thanks for the worning!

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William ODonnell" <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com>
To: <humanser at nfbnet.org>; <promotion-technology at nfbnet.org>; 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <Nyagdu at nfbnet.org>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; 
<Jobs at nfbnet.org>; <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; 
<work-at-home-for-the-visually-impaired at googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Apoligies prior message was cut off:


>I see that some have thought my message about my current expearience of 
>studying for the GRE was a spam filled message.
> The information below outlines my experiences while studying for the 
> Graduate Record Examination (GRE). I need some advice on how to proceed 
> forward since I am not getting what I have paid for.
> WARNING:
> To those who are blind or visually impaired who want or are taking the 
> prep courses for the GRE. Take the prep courses on your own with a private 
> tutor. Do not take a class through Kaplan. You and any one supporting you 
> will not get the $1100.00 you paid for since both the website is 
> inaccessible and you are not given proper accessible course material in 
> alternative formats usable to a screen-reader or screen magnification 
> program in a timely manor.
> The course requires individuals to utilize the textbook and internet 
> resources in an interactive classroom setting where the instructor 
> demonstrates concepts and the students read or openly discuss specific 
> examples from the text in the textbook.
> Even working through the representatives of the local Kaplan centers, the 
> issues fall back on Kaplan as a corporation since you are lead to believe 
> that you are the first blind or visually in pared person that Kaplan has 
> come across. With a founding some 50+ years ago, I believe that Kaplan has 
> had more than one visually impaired or blind person register for its 
> courses.
> Kaplan has a refund policy which clearly states that one is not able to 
> get a full refund after the third course session. The initial diagnostic 
> examination counts as the first course. Kaplan is more than willing to 
> make standard accommodations to those who require them for this. When one 
> chooses to obtain help through representatives from Kaplan for there 
> accessibility issues, the representatives will diligently work with you 
> once one has completed two consecutive class sessions. This means that the 
> deadline for any refunds has passed.
> Regarding the kaptest.com website, do not be mislead. The main page is 
> completely accessible. The accessibility issues come up once you register 
> and are able to create a student account. A student account can only be 
> completed once one has authorized either a classroom instruction or 
> tutoring session with a major credit card. The accessibility issues result 
> from the personal student portals being formatted to support flash content 
> and the lack of Kaplan integrating the website accessibility standards 
> referred to as the W3c.org/waiweb access initiative and /TR technical 
> reference pages through adobe systems.
> Unless one has there own personal equipment to utilize, one is not able to 
> utilize there local Kaplan center’s equipment since none of the centers 
> have any accessible screen magnifications or screen reading software on 
> sight.
> In addition, for those who choose to study and prepare for the GRE through 
> there local colleges or universities, those individuals would have the 
> same problems since the teachings and course related material is still 
> channeled through Kaplan and not the local colleges or University. Kaplan 
> outsources itself within local colleges and universities to offer there 
> programs since Kaplan is a monopoly as a service provider.
> Kaplan’s main headquarters are located in New York City, a place so 
> diverse yet so segregated to those few who possess special personal 
> corporate interests or political clout. .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nabs-l:
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> 



From nabs.president at gmail.com  Wed Aug 26 23:12:56 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:12:56 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Nabs-presidents] Mapping issues
In-Reply-To: <1116052610.31681251202831493.JavaMail.uportal@portal4.my.nau.edu>
References: <1116052610.31681251202831493.JavaMail.uportal@portal4.my.nau.edu>
Message-ID: <85ff10070908261612y17ca27e9g79014855c85e6add@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I received this from another list. If you have suggestions for Ryan,
please write him directly at
rlt56 at nau.edu

Thanks!
Arielle

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ryan Lee Thomas <rlt56 at nau.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:20:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Nabs-presidents] Mapping issues
To: List for NABS State Presidents <nabs-presidents at nfbnet.org>

Hello all,

   I have a question of accessibility for any out there who may be
able to help.  I am a forestry major and we use multi layered
geograpic information systems to map forests, elevation, streams etc.
GIS itself is not accessible, but I still need to know the concepts
behind a complex mapping tool like it.  I need to come up with some
way that I can learn what the other students are and I know of no real
mapping tool for the blind that would have any degree of
sophistication.  I could always go the writing a paper route, but
assignments closer to what my sighted peers are doing would most
likely be better for me and less of a cop out in general.  Does any
have ideas or knowledge of mapping software?  Thanks.

Sincerely,
   Ryan Thomas
President
Arizona Association of Blind Students


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-- 
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President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From ginisd at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 27 00:09:55 2009
From: ginisd at sbcglobal.net (V Nork)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:09:55 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
References: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJIEPJCHAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
Message-ID: <5B7DFD6E0C28442A97960CA2FDCACBA2@windows4c0ed96>

Here is a quick fix I tried once for a PDf file, it was a small file, and I 
am not sure it  would work with a book  made up of a laarger file or files. 
Perhaps if you were able to break the book PDF file up in sections it would 
work.  Here is what I did with a small file that was in PDF, a scholarship 
handout of about fifteen pages in PDF.  I just opened the PDF file, selected 
all, and then copied and pasted the whole file into a blank word document. 
A bit unorthodox perhaps, but it worked well, and I could read the file 
easily since it was  converted into a  word document.  Hope this helps, 
Ginnie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rachel Becker" <Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Textbook Help


> If you have Kurzweil or something like it, you can use it to open the PDF
> file and it works pretty well.
> Good luck to you and everyone with the new school year.
> Rachel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Cumbiambera2005
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
>
>
> hello nabsters,
> I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
> going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
> that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
> file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
> sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
> it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
> work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
> be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
> Ashley
>
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From mewhalen at wisc.edu  Thu Aug 27 01:33:06 2009
From: mewhalen at wisc.edu (Meghan Whalen)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:33:06 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Symbolic Logic
References: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<E72EB96166C7414C9737AE03B2248710@VALUED04C3B21F>
Message-ID: <F68DC18F0E2B4DF5B87C0E038F6B8B92@Yoka>

I too took this class and did a lot of the work orally.  I used my own 
symbles to represent what I needed, wrote it out on my braillenote and had 
it right in front of me when the problem was read to me.  I then was able to 
keep track of what was on the page and dictate back the correct response. 
In a course like this, a lot of the time, good focus in class cuts back 
vastly on the need for a book, and so does a supportive professor or TA.

Best of luck.  It can easily be done.

Meghan 



From newmanrl at cox.net  Thu Aug 27 02:08:27 2009
From: newmanrl at cox.net (Robert Newman)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:08:27 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The NFB Where The Blind Work Needs Nursing Job Descriptions
Message-ID: <auto-000114019481@mailfront1.g2host.com>


The NFB Where The Blind Work Needs Nursing Job Descriptions

We need descriptions of all types of jobs which fall within the realm 
of nursing (Registered Nurse, nurse aid, school nurse, etc) and how 
you do them. Your description will be added to the NFB's "Where The 
Blind work," a new and ever growing resource of career descriptions 
and how the blind compete within them. This is a great resource to 
assist youth to plan for future employment and for the adult who is 
looking to change jobs and/or careers.

Your description must follow the below five question format:
When completed please email them to me at 
<mailto:newmanrl at cox.net>newmanrl at cox.net

  (A * indicates a required field):

1. * Name, * Industry in which you work, * Job title, Address 1, 
Address 2, City, State, Zip Code, Phone number, E-mail,

* 2. Please explain to us what any worker would do on this job 
(specialized blindness alternatives will appear below).

* 3. Please tell us the cause of your blindness. Then, let us know 
about the alternative methods and/or techniques you use to perform your job.

* 4. Please let us know of any required special training, education, 
certificates, experience, etc. needed for this job.

* 5. Please tell us about anyone or anything that aided you to be successful.

(A joint project between the Jernigan Institute and the NFB Writers' 
Division; for all people)

Visit the "Where The Blind Work" at-

<http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Blind_Work.asp?SnID=28992349>http://www.nfb.org/nfb/Blind_Work.asp?SnID=28992349 


President NFB Writers' Division
Robert Leslie Newman
Email- newmanrl at cox.net
Division Website-
<Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org>Http://www.nfb-writers-division.org

From carter.tjoseph at gmail.com  Thu Aug 27 03:51:44 2009
From: carter.tjoseph at gmail.com (T. Joseph Carter)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:51:44 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
In-Reply-To: <090C885BAEDD44F28A0DF6F303E88026@Ashley>
References: <9FC9E5E7C48A4BB4A42DE8EDDE8F61C3@dwrigh6>
	<20090826154405.GK44583@yumi.bluecherry.net>
	<090C885BAEDD44F28A0DF6F303E88026@Ashley>
Message-ID: <20090827035144.GB46555@yumi.bluecherry.net>

Ashley,

Most of what you need to know is found here:

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/index.html

I think you'll likely want to read this in particular:

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/howto.html

Being unable to take the class is its own consequence, more so 
because you likely had to pay for the class and would not likely 
receive full refund.

As for remedy requested, I'd say the remedy is simple: Provide what 
accommodations are needed for you to take the course, along with a 
discount in tuition equal to that you were not refunded when you had 
to drop the class before.

These things are usually settled by agreements--either early 
agreement between you and the university, or between the OCR and the 
university.  The former is problematic in that you won't have the OCR 
to ensure they do what they need to do.  The latter you have no 
control over.  All you may do is file a new complaint if they don't 
follow the agreement.

Any complaint may result in retaliation, which is not permitted, but 
happens.  If it does, you simply need to fine another complaint.

Joseph

-- 
How many children in America are not taught how to read?
If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 01:16:32PM -0400, Ashley  Bramlett wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> I agree that the university has an obligation to provide accomodations 
> and certainly to recommend not taking the class is no accomodation.
>
> I was at Marymount and I also was told not to take a class.  It was a  
> communication class named broadcast delivery and students had to prepare  
> scripts and deliver on video for it.  They said that I wouldn't see and 
> thus be able to practice the nonverbal communication such as gestures.  
> It didn't help the instructor was absent and the substitutes I had could 
> not accomodate me; the instructor was away on medical leave a few weeks.  
> The students practiced broadcast delivery such as public service 
> announcements by reading the text and handouts.  I read braille but this 
> was not in braille or large print.  So I couldn't do it.
> My point being the university did not accomodate me and they pressured me 
> to drop the class and I did.
>
> I did not know you could file complaints.  I thought that was for grades  
> K-12.
> If I go back to school for another degree or grad school I'll keep this 
> in mind.
>
> How do you file complaints
> with the office of civil rights in the department of education?
> What happens after you do it?  I suppose you have to prove harm to 
> justify your complaint.  How do they resolve complaints?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter" 
> <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"  
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Understanding Symbolic Logic textbook
>
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Were I your roommate, I would file a complaint with the Office for 
>> Civil Rights in the Department of Education straight away.  The 
>> university has an obligation to provide an accommodation here, and the 
>> recommendation not to take the course is no accommodation!
>>
>> A good course in logic should be required study in my opinion because 
>> of the value I have gained from it.  It was required for the CS degree 
>> I originally worked toward, but has been applicable to every other 
>> field I have even investigated.
>>
>> They would have the same trouble with a symbolic logic text that they 
>> have with a math text.  Do they recommend that he not take math either? 
>>  This is inexcusable.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> -- 
>> How many children in America are not taught how to read?
>> If they are blind, the answer is 90%.
>> Find out how you can help: http://www.braille.org/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 06:28:28PM -0500, Dave Wright wrote:
>>> Good evening all, I have a roommate who is in the process of 
>>> searching without success for a textbook for one of his classes. The 
>>> title of the book is: Understanding symbolic logic, by Virginia Klenk 
>>> 3rd Ed
>>>
>>> He's been told by a number of representatives from the university's 
>>> office of disabilities to not take the class as they would have a 
>>> difficult time converting the materials. As we all know, this can be 
>>> a rather frustrating situation. Any thoughts concerning this matter 
>>> would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Best Regards:
>>> Dave Wright
>>> Work Phone: 347-422-7085
>>> Email:
>>> dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>>> WebPage:
>>> http://www.knfbreader.com
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From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 27 05:14:35 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:14:35 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Symbolic Logic
References: <mailman.54.1251306008.15633.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<E72EB96166C7414C9737AE03B2248710@VALUED04C3B21F>
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I'd like to thank you all for the many suggestions and advice thus far. 
Everything has been passed on to my roommate and if anyone has any further 
information concerning this book, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again.


Best Regards:
Dave Wright
Work Phone: 347-422-7085
Email:
dwrigh6 at gmail.com
WebPage:
http://www.knfbreader.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Whalen" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Symbolic Logic


> Hey D Wright,
>
> While symbolic logic does have some unique characters, it is far less
> complicated than many science and math fields. I not only took logic, I
> tutored it for two years. Difficulties with the symbols are easily 
> overcome.
> I do not have any info on the particular book you referenced; I used a
> different text. The suggestion that he not take the class is completely 
> out
> of line, but perhaps before filing complaints with the DoEd, he might
> consider talking to the professor. I did take exams orally, but used 
> symbol
> substitutions such as a "U" in place of the horseshoe symbol, which 
> denotes
> a conditional, when doing homework. The braille book previously referenced
> might serve him quite well. I have only seen two texts, but my impression 
> is
> pretty much that logic is logic. There might be different ways of talking
> about and explaining concepts, but the terminology and symbols should be
> consistent. Unless there is homework taken from the text, he might do fine
> learning out of an alternative text and attending lecture.
>
> Hope it's useful,
>
> Sean
>
>
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From daydreamingncolor at gmail.com  Thu Aug 27 18:37:07 2009
From: daydreamingncolor at gmail.com (Aziza C)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:37:07 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Art history advice?
Message-ID: <632092010908271137m7448de81l6e878ce14101a7a3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,I am taking a History of Women in Art class. I was wondering if
anyone had any suggestions or advice about how to go about studying
images and pictures. A lot of the class is based on lecture, however
there is also a substancial amount of interpreting and understanding
the art itself

If any of you have taken an art class I'd be interested to have your
input and advice.

Thank you.
Aziza


From kevin at kevinlarose.net  Thu Aug 27 20:00:29 2009
From: kevin at kevinlarose.net (Kevin LaRose)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:00:29 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Angel
Message-ID: <C629C560A58C427D85D1478FA5C9D86A@acer6e40e97492>

Has anyone had any experience with, or even heard of, an online course 
system called Angel? That's the system the college where I'm taking classes 
uses for online courses. It appears to use Java rather heavily, which makes 
me somewhat uncomfortable. I don't want to get to the point where classes 
have started and I figure out then that I can't use the online course 
system. Has anyone had any experience with this one? Thanks.
Kevin LaRose
<kevin at kevinlarose.net>
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From jbrastrup at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 27 22:50:59 2009
From: jbrastrup at yahoo.com (jamie brastrup)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:50:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] need book for college
Message-ID: <565618.55406.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

hi all, 
i have a class starting on mon. and i really need a book. i have looked everywhere and no such luck. i have also contacted the publishers and no response yet. 
if anyone has it in electronic format and could send my way that would be greatly appreciated. 
thanks jamie 
book follows: 
Practical computer literacy 2nd edition 
author: Parsons and oja
Isbn: 9781439037485



      


From kevin at kevinlarose.net  Thu Aug 27 23:15:54 2009
From: kevin at kevinlarose.net (Kevin LaRose)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:15:54 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] need book for college
References: <565618.55406.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
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Are you plugged in with RFB and D? I did a search on their website and it 
came up. Not the optimal solution, I know, but it's something.
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From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Fri Aug 28 01:15:31 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:15:31 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] need book for college
References: <565618.55406.qm@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <235FC6F57B5941049A472FEADDC11479@teal6e6857f643>

you are starting monday and havent been on this? the fastest is probably 
RFB&D, have your disability service call the publisher and get an electronic 
version. The best and quickest would be to see what your school offers you 
and see if you can get a reader for the first part.

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jamie brastrup" <jbrastrup at yahoo.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:50 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] need book for college


> hi all,
> i have a class starting on mon. and i really need a book. i have looked 
> everywhere and no such luck. i have also contacted the publishers and no 
> response yet.
> if anyone has it in electronic format and could send my way that would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> thanks jamie
> book follows:
> Practical computer literacy 2nd edition
> author: Parsons and oja
> Isbn: 9781439037485
>
>
>
>
>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Fri Aug 28 02:13:45 2009
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:13:45 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB of Georgia Convention
Message-ID: <auto-000114208537@mailfront1.g2host.com>


The National Federation of the Blind of Georgia 
would like to invite you to our Thirty-Sixth 
Annual State Convention.  Our theme is: “Becoming 
The Change We Want The World To See.”  This year, 
our State Convention will be held on Friday, 
October 9 thru Sunday, October 11.  Registration 
is $35.00 (including lunch on Saturday), and the 
banquet cost is $35.00.  The convention will be 
held in Macon, Georgia at the new Marriott City 
Center.  Room rates are $         90.00.    Early 
registration and a banquet ticket can be 
purchased at a discount before September 30th for $30.00 each.



The state Convention of the National Federation 
of the Blind of Georgia is the largest gathering 
of the blind in the state.  Approximately 200 
blind people, family members, friends, and 
blindness service providers come together for a 
weekend of seminars, presentations, workshops, 
and general discussions on training, technology, 
and strategies for improving the quality of life 
of blind people.  The following is just a sample 
of the topics an activities:



* NFB-NEWSLINE® New Features and Enhancements

* Louis Braille Coin and Braille Literacy Initiatives

* Georgians Empowered Through Mentoring Success

* Braille Enrichment through Literacy and Nonvisual Learning

* NFB Youth Slam

* Parents of blind Children Seminar

* Blind Students Luncheon

* Updates on State Education and Rehabilitation Programs



For more information, or to register for the 
event, visit 
<http://www.nfbga.org/>WWW.NFBGA.ORG, or call the 
office 866-316-3242.  It promises to be an exciting and educational weekend.

From gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 28 16:54:47 2009
From: gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net (Dave Wright)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:54:47 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Nokia 6220 Classic for sale!
Message-ID: <FFF17CFFE4584133ACE76B16DF54989B@dwrigh6>

Hi all,

Handy Tech North America has two of the Nokia 6220 unlocked GSM phones for
sale. This is one of three devices supported by the popular K-NFB Reader
Mobile software.  I am asking $329 for each of them which is about what you
can get them for elsewhere, but I will give the buyer $100 off of their
choice of either MobileSpeak or Talks making the bundle price only $528.
Purchase the K-NFB Reader software with this phone and we'll discount
another $100 which will give you the phone, Talks or MobileSpeak and the
reader for the amazingly low cost of $1423.

Interested persons may contact handy Tech North America at:

651-636-5184

Or send e-mail to:

dave at handytech.us

Best regards,
   Dave Wright
Regional Sales Manager- Handy Tech North America
 
Phone:  651-636-5184 X803

Mobile: 347-422-7085
 
Fax:  866-347-8249
 
E-mail:
dave at handytech.us
 
Web site:
http://www.handytech.us

From hlsnider at verizon.net  Sat Aug 29 02:12:38 2009
From: hlsnider at verizon.net (HAROLD SNIDER)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:12:38 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Price reduced on items for sale
Message-ID: <auto-000116310425@mailfront2.g2host.com>

 From Linda Snider:


FOR SALE:      New T-Mobile Wing Smart Phone with 
mobile speak, still in box, never
used, asking $150.00 or best offer;

New Plextalk PTR2/T1, still in box, never used, asking $450.00 or best offer;

Used Braille Sense Plus with current updates, one 
16 GB compact flash card, two 2-GB compact flash 
cards, one 4-GB thumb drive; one 4 GB compact 
flash card; and one -1 GB compact flash card with 
carrying case for flash cards, was asking 
$4,500.00 reduced to $4,000.00. Have 
original  box for shipping to you.<?xml:namespace 
prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Scholar digital talking book player with Daisy, 
Standard CD and MP3 formats, asking $100.00 or best offer;

  Nokia 6220 Classic KNFB Reader Mobil 
with  extra battery, travel charger, earphones, 
USB/phone cable, video cables, connectivity 
cable, and leather clip on carrying case, asking $1000.00 plus shipping-firm;

MSI USB Dongle(bluetooth) asking $10.00;

Used slightly-Telex cassette duplicator – 1 
master and 3 slaves, asking $50.00.

These items belong to my late husband.  Please 
contact me at hlsnider at earthlink.net  or call 301 460-4142 to discuss.


From aec732 at msn.com  Sat Aug 29 20:37:38 2009
From: aec732 at msn.com (Annemarie Cooke)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:37:38 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
In-Reply-To: <mailman.22.1251478804.14704.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.22.1251478804.14704.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <SNT110-W13C2721E59A3B31013748894F40@phx.gbl>


Jamie, just download the book from RFB&D and you can have it in a matter of minutes. Membership is free! Go to: www.rfbd.org, register for membeship, set up the free on-line account and start downloading to your Stream or other device. User keys also are free for many DAISY devices including the Braille Note.

Let me know if you need mor einformation and good luck! It's easier than you think!

Annemarie Cooke

RFB&D consultant and member

From albertyoo1 at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 29 20:57:09 2009
From: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com (Albert Yoo)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:57:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
In-Reply-To: <SNT110-W13C2721E59A3B31013748894F40@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.22.1251478804.14704.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<SNT110-W13C2721E59A3B31013748894F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY105-W24E46CA9CD371F0EB0E0E98BF40@phx.gbl>


Annemarie, what if rfbd doesn't have the book the person is looking for? Can you still download the book? Albert
 
> From: aec732 at msn.com
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:37:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
> 
> 
> Jamie, just download the book from RFB&D and you can have it in a matter of minutes. Membership is free! Go to: www.rfbd.org, register for membeship, set up the free on-line account and start downloading to your Stream or other device. User keys also are free for many DAISY devices including the Braille Note.
> 
> Let me know if you need mor einformation and good luck! It's easier than you think!
> 
> Annemarie Cooke
> 
> RFB&D consultant and member
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From daydreamingncolor at gmail.com  Sat Aug 29 21:25:04 2009
From: daydreamingncolor at gmail.com (Aziza C)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:25:04 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Attention: Parents,
	Teachers and Supporters of Young Blind Children struggling with
	literacy
Message-ID: <632092010908291425y3241940ax6e6020dab7acab21@mail.gmail.com>

How many of us have struggled through comprehending Braille upon first
being introduced to it. How many of us have watched another child
struggle through the attempts to comprehend Braille upon their first
few encounters? Reading is difficult, especially at first. It isn't
often a child will "want," to sit still and turn the pages of a book
for an hour when the alternative is running outside, or watching
television. Parents, teachers, supporters, and even the children
themselves understand these struggles. And so does this man who gives
this account.

A PARENT'S LATE COMING TO BRAILLE

Kevin C. Murphy

Fourteen, blind since infancy, multiply handicapped, Kevin knew
about letters. Letters excited him in the way angels, UFOs,
ghosts, and monsters excite many of us -- lots of mystery, little
practical value. His favorite television programs, SESAME STREET
and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY mimicked Madison Avenue's technique of
manipulating human want. Kevin wanted to read. For this child,
reading had to mean Braille. Yet by 1981 "Braille" for Kevin, was a
mispronunciation of "fail." Preceded by dread, overshadowed by fear,
each class was cursed by confusion, each ended in depression.
Ending six years of effort, Kevin's teachers abandoned efforts to
teach Braille to him. I believed that Braille was beyond Kevin's
grasp. Yet, a distant part of me raged against that illiterate life.
Inwardly I hesitated to post full cost and cause to Kevin's account.
Kevin -- and Heather, my adopted daughter -- were multiply
handicapped and blind. No fear, nor excessive concern about
blindness gripped me. My children were who they were, I saw nothing in
need of fixing -- except, perhaps, in the society that shunned them.
I nursed a parent's terror of Braille, a thing so exotic, so
beyond my experience, that surely my ignorance of it can only damage
my child. But what harm could I do now? Kevin's legacy of Braille's
letters, alphabets, grief, effort, and failure were now discarded as
junk. I could do no harm.
Kevin could, at least, learn that symbolic languages exist,
function. He might not read a book, but he might understand how
others do that. Many who've never piloted aircraft understand their
workings.
I searched for means such that Kevin might keep what literacy he
had, perhaps to re-shape that knowledge base a bit to make life less
confusing to him. The approach: "Hey Kevin, want to work with Dad?" is
not a proven winner with fourteen-year-olds.
"Hey Kevin, want to work on Braille?" was a certain loser in
that age.
I mutilated Christmas toys, fashioned my first TACK-TILES® .
Little building blocks became Braille cells. "Hey Kevin, guess what I
did to your Lego® blocks!" was as perfect a "come on"
as any ever devised. I let his very annoyed half-wondering fingers survey the
damage thoroughly before accounting for myself -or mentioning B-----.
Then we built words and sentences on toy boards meant to
serve as front lawns. I was poorly prepared for the success of early
sessions with Kevin and TACK-TILES® . In that setting, failure meant
only that I would deny him his great pleasure of confiscating my
TACK-TILES® , forfeiting opportunity to lodge them onto his own board.
Here Braille's challenge was a benign contest of human beings, fun,
much more to his comfort and liking. Braille was lodged in a world of
his own -- less like the adult's. He allowed me to tease and fence
with him around his knowledge and ability to use this new learning
tool. He revealed secrets about his unique learning style, remained
at task until I wondered if I had an attention disorder. Kevin's
instructor -- his father -- had not the beginning of an idea how to
proceed. That helped immensely. Kevin and the TACK-TILES® took
complete charge. Success, followed success in the wake of success.
His teachers's earlier efforts finally bore fruit. Kevin was
able to read his grade one Braille papers by the end of that month.
Nearly nine years would pass before another child would learn to read
with TACK-TILES®. Five more years beyond that would pass before we
could afford to make them commercially available in February, 1995.


In March of 2009, I had the chance to meet Kevin Murphey, the
developer of Tack-Tiles. I stood before his table in a huge exhibit
hall marveling at how the product had evolved since I used them to
help me learn to read as a child. I was listening distractedly to him
deliver a sales pitch to the gentlman standing beside me. Explaining
his reasons for building the blocks in the first place, and remarking
that he'd never met another student besides his own son who had used
these products to learn how to read, although he'd sold many. I looked
up startled and turned towards him, hesitantly I put out my hand and
spoke up. "I learned how to read with these blocks." Kevin stopped
talking and turned to face me, surprise and pleasure in his voice as
he asked, "Really?" I smiled and I confirmed that I had. Idly I played
with his newest product, Braille Teasers, a sort of flat puzzle that
makes you think about where the letters can go provided one empty
space. The object is to get the board alphabitized without removing
the legos which is considered cheating. We talked and talked like old
friends, and then I asked if I could take a picture with him. He
agreed on the conditions that I email him a copy of the photo, which I
found to be a fair price.

As I sat at National Convention I heard a constant message. We must
increase Braille Literacy. Our kids need to be taught Braille.
Braille, Braille and more Braille. This brought a smile to my lips,
however, once I returned home I began to think. Braille Readers are
Leaders, Slate Pals, these programs reenforce Braille Skills that
children already possess, encouraging them to read. However, I have
yet to hear of a program geared towards teaching children Braille when
they know none to begin with. I called up my new friend Kevin and
launched in to my creative mode. My excitement prooved contagious, and
Kevin agreed to allow me a shot at promoting the product that made me
the Braille Reader I am today.

Tack-Tiles are tiny lego blocks with Braille letters, contractions,
numbers, or music symbols on them, depending on which set you
purchase. Sets can also be purchased in different languages. This
product can be extremely benificial because children do not realize
they are learning. I would rapidly lose interest in my reading and
begin to build things with my legos, stopping in fascination as I
realized my house had words on the roof. These legos can hold a
child's attention routed to literacy without his or her knowledge,
thus providing them with more exposure and practice, and making
reading fun.

It is my belief that organizations, and schools helping young
students, or students with multi-disabilities should own a set of
Tack-Tiles. If anyone has any questions or an interest in this
product, please don't hesitate to email me off list at:
daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
Or, visit the Tac-Tiles home page at:
http://www.tack-tiles.com/

Aziza Cano


From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 29 21:40:52 2009
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley  Bramlett)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:40:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
References: <mailman.22.1251478804.14704.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org><SNT110-W13C2721E59A3B31013748894F40@phx.gbl>
	<BAY105-W24E46CA9CD371F0EB0E0E98BF40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F0B7F7E107784CCA99D8D8213AF618A6@Ashley>

Albert,
I think you know.  If the book is not recorded in rfb's library then you 
cannot download the book!  You can only download the book if its been 
recorded!  If not with advanced notice and two copies of the book rfb can 
record it for you at their  DC studio.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert Yoo" <albertyoo1 at hotmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie



Annemarie, what if rfbd doesn't have the book the person is looking for? Can 
you still download the book? Albert

> From: aec732 at msn.com
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:37:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
>
>
> Jamie, just download the book from RFB&D and you can have it in a matter 
> of minutes. Membership is free! Go to: www.rfbd.org, register for 
> membeship, set up the free on-line account and start downloading to your 
> Stream or other device. User keys also are free for many DAISY devices 
> including the Braille Note.
>
> Let me know if you need mor einformation and good luck! It's easier than 
> you think!
>
> Annemarie Cooke
>
> RFB&D consultant and member
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From albertyoo1 at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 29 22:17:32 2009
From: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com (Albert Yoo)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:17:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
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I will call the DC studios on Monday to find out how far in advance you need to send two copies of the book to be recorded. That would be my only question. Albert
 
> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:40:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
> 
> Albert,
> I think you know. If the book is not recorded in rfb's library then you 
> cannot download the book! You can only download the book if its been 
> recorded! If not with advanced notice and two copies of the book rfb can 
> record it for you at their DC studio.
> 
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert Yoo" <albertyoo1 at hotmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> Annemarie, what if rfbd doesn't have the book the person is looking for? Can 
> you still download the book? Albert
> 
> > From: aec732 at msn.com
> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:37:38 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] textbook needed by Jamie
> >
> >
> > Jamie, just download the book from RFB&D and you can have it in a matter 
> > of minutes. Membership is free! Go to: www.rfbd.org, register for 
> > membeship, set up the free on-line account and start downloading to your 
> > Stream or other device. User keys also are free for many DAISY devices 
> > including the Braille Note.
> >
> > Let me know if you need mor einformation and good luck! It's easier than 
> > you think!
> >
> > Annemarie Cooke
> >
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From alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 02:31:49 2009
From: alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com (alena roberts)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:31:49 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Attention: Parents,
	Teachers and Supporters of Young Blind Children struggling with
	literacy
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What an awesome story and what an awesome product. If I ever become a
parent, I might get these even if my children aren't blind, because if
they know braille than they'll know how their mom reads.

Alena

On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> How many of us have struggled through comprehending Braille upon first
> being introduced to it. How many of us have watched another child
> struggle through the attempts to comprehend Braille upon their first
> few encounters? Reading is difficult, especially at first. It isn't
> often a child will "want," to sit still and turn the pages of a book
> for an hour when the alternative is running outside, or watching
> television. Parents, teachers, supporters, and even the children
> themselves understand these struggles. And so does this man who gives
> this account.
>
> A PARENT'S LATE COMING TO BRAILLE
>
> Kevin C. Murphy
>
> Fourteen, blind since infancy, multiply handicapped, Kevin knew
> about letters. Letters excited him in the way angels, UFOs,
> ghosts, and monsters excite many of us -- lots of mystery, little
> practical value. His favorite television programs, SESAME STREET
> and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY mimicked Madison Avenue's technique of
> manipulating human want. Kevin wanted to read. For this child,
> reading had to mean Braille. Yet by 1981 "Braille" for Kevin, was a
> mispronunciation of "fail." Preceded by dread, overshadowed by fear,
> each class was cursed by confusion, each ended in depression.
> Ending six years of effort, Kevin's teachers abandoned efforts to
> teach Braille to him. I believed that Braille was beyond Kevin's
> grasp. Yet, a distant part of me raged against that illiterate life.
> Inwardly I hesitated to post full cost and cause to Kevin's account.
> Kevin -- and Heather, my adopted daughter -- were multiply
> handicapped and blind. No fear, nor excessive concern about
> blindness gripped me. My children were who they were, I saw nothing in
> need of fixing -- except, perhaps, in the society that shunned them.
> I nursed a parent's terror of Braille, a thing so exotic, so
> beyond my experience, that surely my ignorance of it can only damage
> my child. But what harm could I do now? Kevin's legacy of Braille's
> letters, alphabets, grief, effort, and failure were now discarded as
> junk. I could do no harm.
> Kevin could, at least, learn that symbolic languages exist,
> function. He might not read a book, but he might understand how
> others do that. Many who've never piloted aircraft understand their
> workings.
> I searched for means such that Kevin might keep what literacy he
> had, perhaps to re-shape that knowledge base a bit to make life less
> confusing to him. The approach: "Hey Kevin, want to work with Dad?" is
> not a proven winner with fourteen-year-olds.
> "Hey Kevin, want to work on Braille?" was a certain loser in
> that age.
> I mutilated Christmas toys, fashioned my first TACK-TILES® .
> Little building blocks became Braille cells. "Hey Kevin, guess what I
> did to your Lego® blocks!" was as perfect a "come on"
> as any ever devised. I let his very annoyed half-wondering fingers survey
> the
> damage thoroughly before accounting for myself -or mentioning B-----.
> Then we built words and sentences on toy boards meant to
> serve as front lawns. I was poorly prepared for the success of early
> sessions with Kevin and TACK-TILES® . In that setting, failure meant
> only that I would deny him his great pleasure of confiscating my
> TACK-TILES® , forfeiting opportunity to lodge them onto his own board.
> Here Braille's challenge was a benign contest of human beings, fun,
> much more to his comfort and liking. Braille was lodged in a world of
> his own -- less like the adult's. He allowed me to tease and fence
> with him around his knowledge and ability to use this new learning
> tool. He revealed secrets about his unique learning style, remained
> at task until I wondered if I had an attention disorder. Kevin's
> instructor -- his father -- had not the beginning of an idea how to
> proceed. That helped immensely. Kevin and the TACK-TILES® took
> complete charge. Success, followed success in the wake of success.
> His teachers's earlier efforts finally bore fruit. Kevin was
> able to read his grade one Braille papers by the end of that month.
> Nearly nine years would pass before another child would learn to read
> with TACK-TILES®. Five more years beyond that would pass before we
> could afford to make them commercially available in February, 1995.
>
>
> In March of 2009, I had the chance to meet Kevin Murphey, the
> developer of Tack-Tiles. I stood before his table in a huge exhibit
> hall marveling at how the product had evolved since I used them to
> help me learn to read as a child. I was listening distractedly to him
> deliver a sales pitch to the gentlman standing beside me. Explaining
> his reasons for building the blocks in the first place, and remarking
> that he'd never met another student besides his own son who had used
> these products to learn how to read, although he'd sold many. I looked
> up startled and turned towards him, hesitantly I put out my hand and
> spoke up. "I learned how to read with these blocks." Kevin stopped
> talking and turned to face me, surprise and pleasure in his voice as
> he asked, "Really?" I smiled and I confirmed that I had. Idly I played
> with his newest product, Braille Teasers, a sort of flat puzzle that
> makes you think about where the letters can go provided one empty
> space. The object is to get the board alphabitized without removing
> the legos which is considered cheating. We talked and talked like old
> friends, and then I asked if I could take a picture with him. He
> agreed on the conditions that I email him a copy of the photo, which I
> found to be a fair price.
>
> As I sat at National Convention I heard a constant message. We must
> increase Braille Literacy. Our kids need to be taught Braille.
> Braille, Braille and more Braille. This brought a smile to my lips,
> however, once I returned home I began to think. Braille Readers are
> Leaders, Slate Pals, these programs reenforce Braille Skills that
> children already possess, encouraging them to read. However, I have
> yet to hear of a program geared towards teaching children Braille when
> they know none to begin with. I called up my new friend Kevin and
> launched in to my creative mode. My excitement prooved contagious, and
> Kevin agreed to allow me a shot at promoting the product that made me
> the Braille Reader I am today.
>
> Tack-Tiles are tiny lego blocks with Braille letters, contractions,
> numbers, or music symbols on them, depending on which set you
> purchase. Sets can also be purchased in different languages. This
> product can be extremely benificial because children do not realize
> they are learning. I would rapidly lose interest in my reading and
> begin to build things with my legos, stopping in fascination as I
> realized my house had words on the roof. These legos can hold a
> child's attention routed to literacy without his or her knowledge,
> thus providing them with more exposure and practice, and making
> reading fun.
>
> It is my belief that organizations, and schools helping young
> students, or students with multi-disabilities should own a set of
> Tack-Tiles. If anyone has any questions or an interest in this
> product, please don't hesitate to email me off list at:
> daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
> Or, visit the Tac-Tiles home page at:
> http://www.tack-tiles.com/
>
> Aziza Cano
>
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-- 
Alena Roberts
Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/


From daydreamingncolor at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 02:43:17 2009
From: daydreamingncolor at gmail.com (Aziza C)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:43:17 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Attention: Parents,
	Teachers and Supporters of Young Blind Children struggling with
	literacy
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Good for you Alena!

On 8/29/09, alena roberts <alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com> wrote:
> What an awesome story and what an awesome product. If I ever become a
> parent, I might get these even if my children aren't blind, because if
> they know braille than they'll know how their mom reads.
>
> Alena
>
> On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> How many of us have struggled through comprehending Braille upon first
>> being introduced to it. How many of us have watched another child
>> struggle through the attempts to comprehend Braille upon their first
>> few encounters? Reading is difficult, especially at first. It isn't
>> often a child will "want," to sit still and turn the pages of a book
>> for an hour when the alternative is running outside, or watching
>> television. Parents, teachers, supporters, and even the children
>> themselves understand these struggles. And so does this man who gives
>> this account.
>>
>> A PARENT'S LATE COMING TO BRAILLE
>>
>> Kevin C. Murphy
>>
>> Fourteen, blind since infancy, multiply handicapped, Kevin knew
>> about letters. Letters excited him in the way angels, UFOs,
>> ghosts, and monsters excite many of us -- lots of mystery, little
>> practical value. His favorite television programs, SESAME STREET
>> and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY mimicked Madison Avenue's technique of
>> manipulating human want. Kevin wanted to read. For this child,
>> reading had to mean Braille. Yet by 1981 "Braille" for Kevin, was a
>> mispronunciation of "fail." Preceded by dread, overshadowed by fear,
>> each class was cursed by confusion, each ended in depression.
>> Ending six years of effort, Kevin's teachers abandoned efforts to
>> teach Braille to him. I believed that Braille was beyond Kevin's
>> grasp. Yet, a distant part of me raged against that illiterate life.
>> Inwardly I hesitated to post full cost and cause to Kevin's account.
>> Kevin -- and Heather, my adopted daughter -- were multiply
>> handicapped and blind. No fear, nor excessive concern about
>> blindness gripped me. My children were who they were, I saw nothing in
>> need of fixing -- except, perhaps, in the society that shunned them.
>> I nursed a parent's terror of Braille, a thing so exotic, so
>> beyond my experience, that surely my ignorance of it can only damage
>> my child. But what harm could I do now? Kevin's legacy of Braille's
>> letters, alphabets, grief, effort, and failure were now discarded as
>> junk. I could do no harm.
>> Kevin could, at least, learn that symbolic languages exist,
>> function. He might not read a book, but he might understand how
>> others do that. Many who've never piloted aircraft understand their
>> workings.
>> I searched for means such that Kevin might keep what literacy he
>> had, perhaps to re-shape that knowledge base a bit to make life less
>> confusing to him. The approach: "Hey Kevin, want to work with Dad?" is
>> not a proven winner with fourteen-year-olds.
>> "Hey Kevin, want to work on Braille?" was a certain loser in
>> that age.
>> I mutilated Christmas toys, fashioned my first TACK-TILES® .
>> Little building blocks became Braille cells. "Hey Kevin, guess what I
>> did to your Lego® blocks!" was as perfect a "come on"
>> as any ever devised. I let his very annoyed half-wondering fingers survey
>> the
>> damage thoroughly before accounting for myself -or mentioning B-----.
>> Then we built words and sentences on toy boards meant to
>> serve as front lawns. I was poorly prepared for the success of early
>> sessions with Kevin and TACK-TILES® . In that setting, failure meant
>> only that I would deny him his great pleasure of confiscating my
>> TACK-TILES® , forfeiting opportunity to lodge them onto his own board.
>> Here Braille's challenge was a benign contest of human beings, fun,
>> much more to his comfort and liking. Braille was lodged in a world of
>> his own -- less like the adult's. He allowed me to tease and fence
>> with him around his knowledge and ability to use this new learning
>> tool. He revealed secrets about his unique learning style, remained
>> at task until I wondered if I had an attention disorder. Kevin's
>> instructor -- his father -- had not the beginning of an idea how to
>> proceed. That helped immensely. Kevin and the TACK-TILES® took
>> complete charge. Success, followed success in the wake of success.
>> His teachers's earlier efforts finally bore fruit. Kevin was
>> able to read his grade one Braille papers by the end of that month.
>> Nearly nine years would pass before another child would learn to read
>> with TACK-TILES®. Five more years beyond that would pass before we
>> could afford to make them commercially available in February, 1995.
>>
>>
>> In March of 2009, I had the chance to meet Kevin Murphey, the
>> developer of Tack-Tiles. I stood before his table in a huge exhibit
>> hall marveling at how the product had evolved since I used them to
>> help me learn to read as a child. I was listening distractedly to him
>> deliver a sales pitch to the gentlman standing beside me. Explaining
>> his reasons for building the blocks in the first place, and remarking
>> that he'd never met another student besides his own son who had used
>> these products to learn how to read, although he'd sold many. I looked
>> up startled and turned towards him, hesitantly I put out my hand and
>> spoke up. "I learned how to read with these blocks." Kevin stopped
>> talking and turned to face me, surprise and pleasure in his voice as
>> he asked, "Really?" I smiled and I confirmed that I had. Idly I played
>> with his newest product, Braille Teasers, a sort of flat puzzle that
>> makes you think about where the letters can go provided one empty
>> space. The object is to get the board alphabitized without removing
>> the legos which is considered cheating. We talked and talked like old
>> friends, and then I asked if I could take a picture with him. He
>> agreed on the conditions that I email him a copy of the photo, which I
>> found to be a fair price.
>>
>> As I sat at National Convention I heard a constant message. We must
>> increase Braille Literacy. Our kids need to be taught Braille.
>> Braille, Braille and more Braille. This brought a smile to my lips,
>> however, once I returned home I began to think. Braille Readers are
>> Leaders, Slate Pals, these programs reenforce Braille Skills that
>> children already possess, encouraging them to read. However, I have
>> yet to hear of a program geared towards teaching children Braille when
>> they know none to begin with. I called up my new friend Kevin and
>> launched in to my creative mode. My excitement prooved contagious, and
>> Kevin agreed to allow me a shot at promoting the product that made me
>> the Braille Reader I am today.
>>
>> Tack-Tiles are tiny lego blocks with Braille letters, contractions,
>> numbers, or music symbols on them, depending on which set you
>> purchase. Sets can also be purchased in different languages. This
>> product can be extremely benificial because children do not realize
>> they are learning. I would rapidly lose interest in my reading and
>> begin to build things with my legos, stopping in fascination as I
>> realized my house had words on the roof. These legos can hold a
>> child's attention routed to literacy without his or her knowledge,
>> thus providing them with more exposure and practice, and making
>> reading fun.
>>
>> It is my belief that organizations, and schools helping young
>> students, or students with multi-disabilities should own a set of
>> Tack-Tiles. If anyone has any questions or an interest in this
>> product, please don't hesitate to email me off list at:
>> daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
>> Or, visit the Tac-Tiles home page at:
>> http://www.tack-tiles.com/
>>
>> Aziza Cano
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>
>
> --
> Alena Roberts
> Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/
>
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From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 10:21:21 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:21:21 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Attention: Parents,
	Teachers and Supporters of Young Blind Children struggling with
	literacy
In-Reply-To: <632092010908291943x30b459darf7242943b7c892a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <632092010908291425y3241940ax6e6020dab7acab21@mail.gmail.com>
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	<632092010908291943x30b459darf7242943b7c892a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908300321s2457e48fnd57c137747c45897@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome.  I learned Braille a different way, but those things might be
fun to teach my kids Braille because I might end upadopting blind
children.  Itmight be cool.
Beth

On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good for you Alena!
>
> On 8/29/09, alena roberts <alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What an awesome story and what an awesome product. If I ever become a
>> parent, I might get these even if my children aren't blind, because if
>> they know braille than they'll know how their mom reads.
>>
>> Alena
>>
>> On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How many of us have struggled through comprehending Braille upon first
>>> being introduced to it. How many of us have watched another child
>>> struggle through the attempts to comprehend Braille upon their first
>>> few encounters? Reading is difficult, especially at first. It isn't
>>> often a child will "want," to sit still and turn the pages of a book
>>> for an hour when the alternative is running outside, or watching
>>> television. Parents, teachers, supporters, and even the children
>>> themselves understand these struggles. And so does this man who gives
>>> this account.
>>>
>>> A PARENT'S LATE COMING TO BRAILLE
>>>
>>> Kevin C. Murphy
>>>
>>> Fourteen, blind since infancy, multiply handicapped, Kevin knew
>>> about letters. Letters excited him in the way angels, UFOs,
>>> ghosts, and monsters excite many of us -- lots of mystery, little
>>> practical value. His favorite television programs, SESAME STREET
>>> and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY mimicked Madison Avenue's technique of
>>> manipulating human want. Kevin wanted to read. For this child,
>>> reading had to mean Braille. Yet by 1981 "Braille" for Kevin, was a
>>> mispronunciation of "fail." Preceded by dread, overshadowed by fear,
>>> each class was cursed by confusion, each ended in depression.
>>> Ending six years of effort, Kevin's teachers abandoned efforts to
>>> teach Braille to him. I believed that Braille was beyond Kevin's
>>> grasp. Yet, a distant part of me raged against that illiterate life.
>>> Inwardly I hesitated to post full cost and cause to Kevin's account.
>>> Kevin -- and Heather, my adopted daughter -- were multiply
>>> handicapped and blind. No fear, nor excessive concern about
>>> blindness gripped me. My children were who they were, I saw nothing in
>>> need of fixing -- except, perhaps, in the society that shunned them.
>>> I nursed a parent's terror of Braille, a thing so exotic, so
>>> beyond my experience, that surely my ignorance of it can only damage
>>> my child. But what harm could I do now? Kevin's legacy of Braille's
>>> letters, alphabets, grief, effort, and failure were now discarded as
>>> junk. I could do no harm.
>>> Kevin could, at least, learn that symbolic languages exist,
>>> function. He might not read a book, but he might understand how
>>> others do that. Many who've never piloted aircraft understand their
>>> workings.
>>> I searched for means such that Kevin might keep what literacy he
>>> had, perhaps to re-shape that knowledge base a bit to make life less
>>> confusing to him. The approach: "Hey Kevin, want to work with Dad?" is
>>> not a proven winner with fourteen-year-olds.
>>> "Hey Kevin, want to work on Braille?" was a certain loser in
>>> that age.
>>> I mutilated Christmas toys, fashioned my first TACK-TILES® .
>>> Little building blocks became Braille cells. "Hey Kevin, guess what I
>>> did to your Lego® blocks!" was as perfect a "come on"
>>> as any ever devised. I let his very annoyed half-wondering fingers survey
>>> the
>>> damage thoroughly before accounting for myself -or mentioning B-----.
>>> Then we built words and sentences on toy boards meant to
>>> serve as front lawns. I was poorly prepared for the success of early
>>> sessions with Kevin and TACK-TILES® . In that setting, failure meant
>>> only that I would deny him his great pleasure of confiscating my
>>> TACK-TILES® , forfeiting opportunity to lodge them onto his own board.
>>> Here Braille's challenge was a benign contest of human beings, fun,
>>> much more to his comfort and liking. Braille was lodged in a world of
>>> his own -- less like the adult's. He allowed me to tease and fence
>>> with him around his knowledge and ability to use this new learning
>>> tool. He revealed secrets about his unique learning style, remained
>>> at task until I wondered if I had an attention disorder. Kevin's
>>> instructor -- his father -- had not the beginning of an idea how to
>>> proceed. That helped immensely. Kevin and the TACK-TILES® took
>>> complete charge. Success, followed success in the wake of success.
>>> His teachers's earlier efforts finally bore fruit. Kevin was
>>> able to read his grade one Braille papers by the end of that month.
>>> Nearly nine years would pass before another child would learn to read
>>> with TACK-TILES®. Five more years beyond that would pass before we
>>> could afford to make them commercially available in February, 1995.
>>>
>>>
>>> In March of 2009, I had the chance to meet Kevin Murphey, the
>>> developer of Tack-Tiles. I stood before his table in a huge exhibit
>>> hall marveling at how the product had evolved since I used them to
>>> help me learn to read as a child. I was listening distractedly to him
>>> deliver a sales pitch to the gentlman standing beside me. Explaining
>>> his reasons for building the blocks in the first place, and remarking
>>> that he'd never met another student besides his own son who had used
>>> these products to learn how to read, although he'd sold many. I looked
>>> up startled and turned towards him, hesitantly I put out my hand and
>>> spoke up. "I learned how to read with these blocks." Kevin stopped
>>> talking and turned to face me, surprise and pleasure in his voice as
>>> he asked, "Really?" I smiled and I confirmed that I had. Idly I played
>>> with his newest product, Braille Teasers, a sort of flat puzzle that
>>> makes you think about where the letters can go provided one empty
>>> space. The object is to get the board alphabitized without removing
>>> the legos which is considered cheating. We talked and talked like old
>>> friends, and then I asked if I could take a picture with him. He
>>> agreed on the conditions that I email him a copy of the photo, which I
>>> found to be a fair price.
>>>
>>> As I sat at National Convention I heard a constant message. We must
>>> increase Braille Literacy. Our kids need to be taught Braille.
>>> Braille, Braille and more Braille. This brought a smile to my lips,
>>> however, once I returned home I began to think. Braille Readers are
>>> Leaders, Slate Pals, these programs reenforce Braille Skills that
>>> children already possess, encouraging them to read. However, I have
>>> yet to hear of a program geared towards teaching children Braille when
>>> they know none to begin with. I called up my new friend Kevin and
>>> launched in to my creative mode. My excitement prooved contagious, and
>>> Kevin agreed to allow me a shot at promoting the product that made me
>>> the Braille Reader I am today.
>>>
>>> Tack-Tiles are tiny lego blocks with Braille letters, contractions,
>>> numbers, or music symbols on them, depending on which set you
>>> purchase. Sets can also be purchased in different languages. This
>>> product can be extremely benificial because children do not realize
>>> they are learning. I would rapidly lose interest in my reading and
>>> begin to build things with my legos, stopping in fascination as I
>>> realized my house had words on the roof. These legos can hold a
>>> child's attention routed to literacy without his or her knowledge,
>>> thus providing them with more exposure and practice, and making
>>> reading fun.
>>>
>>> It is my belief that organizations, and schools helping young
>>> students, or students with multi-disabilities should own a set of
>>> Tack-Tiles. If anyone has any questions or an interest in this
>>> product, please don't hesitate to email me off list at:
>>> daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
>>> Or, visit the Tac-Tiles home page at:
>>> http://www.tack-tiles.com/
>>>
>>> Aziza Cano
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/
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From daydreamingncolor at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 16:09:44 2009
From: daydreamingncolor at gmail.com (Aziza C)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:09:44 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Attention: Parents,
	Teachers and Supporters of Young Blind Children struggling with
	literacy
In-Reply-To: <4383d01d0908300321s2457e48fnd57c137747c45897@mail.gmail.com>
References: <632092010908291425y3241940ax6e6020dab7acab21@mail.gmail.com>
	<3af83dbb0908291931y34686717k3fa8022051865345@mail.gmail.com>
	<632092010908291943x30b459darf7242943b7c892a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4383d01d0908300321s2457e48fnd57c137747c45897@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <632092010908300909l7fe2a49bt99e1e14e4b825ec4@mail.gmail.com>

Beth,
Just let me know if you would like more information, or use the
information provided online to contact Kevin directly. Either of us
would be happy to help you.
Aziza

On 8/30/09, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome.  I learned Braille a different way, but those things might be
> fun to teach my kids Braille because I might end upadopting blind
> children.  Itmight be cool.
> Beth
>
> On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good for you Alena!
>>
>> On 8/29/09, alena roberts <alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What an awesome story and what an awesome product. If I ever become a
>>> parent, I might get these even if my children aren't blind, because if
>>> they know braille than they'll know how their mom reads.
>>>
>>> Alena
>>>
>>> On 8/29/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> How many of us have struggled through comprehending Braille upon first
>>>> being introduced to it. How many of us have watched another child
>>>> struggle through the attempts to comprehend Braille upon their first
>>>> few encounters? Reading is difficult, especially at first. It isn't
>>>> often a child will "want," to sit still and turn the pages of a book
>>>> for an hour when the alternative is running outside, or watching
>>>> television. Parents, teachers, supporters, and even the children
>>>> themselves understand these struggles. And so does this man who gives
>>>> this account.
>>>>
>>>> A PARENT'S LATE COMING TO BRAILLE
>>>>
>>>> Kevin C. Murphy
>>>>
>>>> Fourteen, blind since infancy, multiply handicapped, Kevin knew
>>>> about letters. Letters excited him in the way angels, UFOs,
>>>> ghosts, and monsters excite many of us -- lots of mystery, little
>>>> practical value. His favorite television programs, SESAME STREET
>>>> and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY mimicked Madison Avenue's technique of
>>>> manipulating human want. Kevin wanted to read. For this child,
>>>> reading had to mean Braille. Yet by 1981 "Braille" for Kevin, was a
>>>> mispronunciation of "fail." Preceded by dread, overshadowed by fear,
>>>> each class was cursed by confusion, each ended in depression.
>>>> Ending six years of effort, Kevin's teachers abandoned efforts to
>>>> teach Braille to him. I believed that Braille was beyond Kevin's
>>>> grasp. Yet, a distant part of me raged against that illiterate life.
>>>> Inwardly I hesitated to post full cost and cause to Kevin's account.
>>>> Kevin -- and Heather, my adopted daughter -- were multiply
>>>> handicapped and blind. No fear, nor excessive concern about
>>>> blindness gripped me. My children were who they were, I saw nothing in
>>>> need of fixing -- except, perhaps, in the society that shunned them.
>>>> I nursed a parent's terror of Braille, a thing so exotic, so
>>>> beyond my experience, that surely my ignorance of it can only damage
>>>> my child. But what harm could I do now? Kevin's legacy of Braille's
>>>> letters, alphabets, grief, effort, and failure were now discarded as
>>>> junk. I could do no harm.
>>>> Kevin could, at least, learn that symbolic languages exist,
>>>> function. He might not read a book, but he might understand how
>>>> others do that. Many who've never piloted aircraft understand their
>>>> workings.
>>>> I searched for means such that Kevin might keep what literacy he
>>>> had, perhaps to re-shape that knowledge base a bit to make life less
>>>> confusing to him. The approach: "Hey Kevin, want to work with Dad?" is
>>>> not a proven winner with fourteen-year-olds.
>>>> "Hey Kevin, want to work on Braille?" was a certain loser in
>>>> that age.
>>>> I mutilated Christmas toys, fashioned my first TACK-TILES® .
>>>> Little building blocks became Braille cells. "Hey Kevin, guess what I
>>>> did to your Lego® blocks!" was as perfect a "come on"
>>>> as any ever devised. I let his very annoyed half-wondering fingers
>>>> survey
>>>> the
>>>> damage thoroughly before accounting for myself -or mentioning B-----.
>>>> Then we built words and sentences on toy boards meant to
>>>> serve as front lawns. I was poorly prepared for the success of early
>>>> sessions with Kevin and TACK-TILES® . In that setting, failure meant
>>>> only that I would deny him his great pleasure of confiscating my
>>>> TACK-TILES® , forfeiting opportunity to lodge them onto his own board.
>>>> Here Braille's challenge was a benign contest of human beings, fun,
>>>> much more to his comfort and liking. Braille was lodged in a world of
>>>> his own -- less like the adult's. He allowed me to tease and fence
>>>> with him around his knowledge and ability to use this new learning
>>>> tool. He revealed secrets about his unique learning style, remained
>>>> at task until I wondered if I had an attention disorder. Kevin's
>>>> instructor -- his father -- had not the beginning of an idea how to
>>>> proceed. That helped immensely. Kevin and the TACK-TILES® took
>>>> complete charge. Success, followed success in the wake of success.
>>>> His teachers's earlier efforts finally bore fruit. Kevin was
>>>> able to read his grade one Braille papers by the end of that month.
>>>> Nearly nine years would pass before another child would learn to read
>>>> with TACK-TILES®. Five more years beyond that would pass before we
>>>> could afford to make them commercially available in February, 1995.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In March of 2009, I had the chance to meet Kevin Murphey, the
>>>> developer of Tack-Tiles. I stood before his table in a huge exhibit
>>>> hall marveling at how the product had evolved since I used them to
>>>> help me learn to read as a child. I was listening distractedly to him
>>>> deliver a sales pitch to the gentlman standing beside me. Explaining
>>>> his reasons for building the blocks in the first place, and remarking
>>>> that he'd never met another student besides his own son who had used
>>>> these products to learn how to read, although he'd sold many. I looked
>>>> up startled and turned towards him, hesitantly I put out my hand and
>>>> spoke up. "I learned how to read with these blocks." Kevin stopped
>>>> talking and turned to face me, surprise and pleasure in his voice as
>>>> he asked, "Really?" I smiled and I confirmed that I had. Idly I played
>>>> with his newest product, Braille Teasers, a sort of flat puzzle that
>>>> makes you think about where the letters can go provided one empty
>>>> space. The object is to get the board alphabitized without removing
>>>> the legos which is considered cheating. We talked and talked like old
>>>> friends, and then I asked if I could take a picture with him. He
>>>> agreed on the conditions that I email him a copy of the photo, which I
>>>> found to be a fair price.
>>>>
>>>> As I sat at National Convention I heard a constant message. We must
>>>> increase Braille Literacy. Our kids need to be taught Braille.
>>>> Braille, Braille and more Braille. This brought a smile to my lips,
>>>> however, once I returned home I began to think. Braille Readers are
>>>> Leaders, Slate Pals, these programs reenforce Braille Skills that
>>>> children already possess, encouraging them to read. However, I have
>>>> yet to hear of a program geared towards teaching children Braille when
>>>> they know none to begin with. I called up my new friend Kevin and
>>>> launched in to my creative mode. My excitement prooved contagious, and
>>>> Kevin agreed to allow me a shot at promoting the product that made me
>>>> the Braille Reader I am today.
>>>>
>>>> Tack-Tiles are tiny lego blocks with Braille letters, contractions,
>>>> numbers, or music symbols on them, depending on which set you
>>>> purchase. Sets can also be purchased in different languages. This
>>>> product can be extremely benificial because children do not realize
>>>> they are learning. I would rapidly lose interest in my reading and
>>>> begin to build things with my legos, stopping in fascination as I
>>>> realized my house had words on the roof. These legos can hold a
>>>> child's attention routed to literacy without his or her knowledge,
>>>> thus providing them with more exposure and practice, and making
>>>> reading fun.
>>>>
>>>> It is my belief that organizations, and schools helping young
>>>> students, or students with multi-disabilities should own a set of
>>>> Tack-Tiles. If anyone has any questions or an interest in this
>>>> product, please don't hesitate to email me off list at:
>>>> daydreamingncolor at gmail.com
>>>> Or, visit the Tac-Tiles home page at:
>>>> http://www.tack-tiles.com/
>>>>
>>>> Aziza Cano
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alena Roberts
>>> Blog: http://www.blindgal.com/
>>>
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From djdrocks4ever at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 16:27:14 2009
From: djdrocks4ever at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:27:14 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Sister Beth,
	James And Friends Join Forces For The Last Djd Invasion Of August
	Tonight On Radio360
Message-ID: <71877D49165C4EB9A155F591F35BF864@thedjdinvasion>

Hi All!
Well, it's almost September..Time for going back to school or college. In some cases it also means going back to work.
Since The Djd Invasion show will be taking a labor day week off, I invite you tonight starting at 7 PM eastern to join me, Beth and James, and possibly other friends who might call in too, as we present tonight's last Djd Invasion of the summer.
This evening's show will feature
Some awesome upbeat pop and country with perhaps some rock thrown in
The usual light-hearted chatter that goes on during a Djd Invasion show
Your calls
And more...
During the broadcast, we can be reached by email, msn messenger or aol instant messenger at the address
live at radio360.us
or when we're on the mic, we can be reached by skype at the address
radio360usa
or by phone by dialing
516-717-4425
I'm looking forward to providing some last minute musical enjoyment for you as the summer vacation winds down. So if you plan to be there, save this email, and at 7 PM eastern, go to
http://www.radio360.us/players/playerselection.html
to tune in to the live program. You can listen in by phone too, just dial
516-717-1674

We hope to see you there for tonight's Radio360 Djd Invasion show.
Best regards,
David Dunphy


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From nabs.president at gmail.com  Sun Aug 30 17:19:20 2009
From: nabs.president at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:19:20 +1000
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election Feedback Survey
Message-ID: <85ff10070908301019x1cbbc5ccwcfa4a8cfdbb15db9@mail.gmail.com>

Dear NABS members:

A few weeks ago, we had a conference call to solicit feedback about
NABS election policies and procedures. Based on the discussion, we've
created an online survey where you can give us your input about these
issues and help us decide whether or not to implement certain changes
to the current procedures. We hope you will fill out this brief survey
and let us know how you feel about some of these issues, and why.

You can fill out the survey by going to
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=omNRHD_2f_2fC2oHMYeWtj6BSQ_3d_3d
Please fill it out before Oct. 1, 2009. After that date, we will
review the responses and decide how to continue the dialogue.

Thanks for your assistance.
Arielle

-- 
Arielle Silverman
President, National Association of Blind Students
Phone:  602-502-2255
Email:
nabs.president at gmail.com
Website:
www.nabslink.org


From jaedpo96 at aol.com  Sun Aug 30 22:38:17 2009
From: jaedpo96 at aol.com (Polansky)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:38:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] graphing calculator
In-Reply-To: <auto-000116310425@mailfront2.g2host.com>
References: <auto-000116310425@mailfront2.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <8CBF7D9B42A5543-2E08-33505@webmail-d019.sysops.aol.com>

I think I might of sent this message to David Andrews, but I don't 
think I sent it to the whole nabs list. I typed in the address of when 
I got the confirmation message, not to the actual list serve. Hi my 
name is Jason. I am in eighth grade, and I need a graphing calculator 
that talks for algebra. Could any of you tell me about talking  I just 
joined the list serve about a few days ago, so that's why you haven't 
gotten any emails from me.graphing calculators.

-----Original Message-----
From: HAROLD SNIDER <hlsnider at verizon.net>
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: [nabs-l] Price reduced on items for sale

 From Linda Snider:


FOR SALE:      New T-Mobile Wing Smart Phone with
mobile speak, still in box, never
used, asking $150.00 or best offer;

New Plextalk PTR2/T1, still in box, never used, asking $450.00 or best 
offer;

Used Braille Sense Plus with current updates, one
16 GB compact flash card, two 2-GB compact flash
cards, one 4-GB thumb drive; one 4 GB compact
flash card; and one -1 GB compact flash card with
carrying case for flash cards, was asking
$4,500.00 reduced to $4,000.00. Have
original  box for shipping to you.<?xml:namespace
prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Scholar digital talking book player with Daisy,
Standard CD and MP3 formats, asking $100.00 or best offer;

  Nokia 6220 Classic KNFB Reader Mobil

with  extra battery, travel charger, earphones,
USB/phone cable, video cables, connectivity
cable, and leather clip on carrying case, asking $1000.00 plus 
shipping-firm;

MSI USB Dongle(bluetooth) asking $10.00;

Used slightly-Telex cassette duplicator – 1
master and 3 slaves, asking $50.00.

These items belong to my late husband.  Please
contact me at hlsnider at earthlink.net  or call 301 460-4142 to discuss.

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From Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com  Sun Aug 30 23:03:30 2009
From: Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com (Rachel Becker)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:03:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] RFBD audio downloads
Message-ID: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJEEAGCIAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>

Has anyone used the new RFB and D audio plus downloads. I am trying to
download books to a USB drive to read on my BrailleNote but am having
problems. Hope you all are having a good school year.
Rachel



From liz.bottner at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 00:08:52 2009
From: liz.bottner at gmail.com (Liz Bottner)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:08:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] RFBD audio downloads
In-Reply-To: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJEEAGCIAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
References: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJEEAGCIAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
Message-ID: <4a9b1481.9553f10a.45df.73fd@mx.google.com>

Hi, 

First of all, you will need a user key from RFB for your BrailleNote. Do you
have one of those? If not, I'm not sure how to go about installing it to the
BN, unfortunately. I've not tried downloading a book to a flash drive, but I
would think that you would just copy the individual book folder from the
RFBD Media Files folder to the drive. I could be wrong, though. That's how
it's done with the Stream. If you have further questions, let me know, and
maybe I can help. Anyone else who is more familiar with this please feel
free to chime in here.

Take care, 

Liz

email: 
liz.bottner at gmail.com 
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http://unsilenceddream.livejournal.com 
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From sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca  Mon Aug 31 01:09:16 2009
From: sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca (Sarah Jevnikar)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:09:16 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help
In-Reply-To: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4804d1140908251157k6a4c0075rec050d0e287aa3cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101ca29d7$ac459830$04d0c890$@jevnikar@utoronto.ca>

Hi! JAWS 5 or so through the most recent version reads pdf's just fine,
provided you're using version 8 or higher of adobe.
HTH,
Sarah


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Cumbiambera2005
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Textbook Help

hello nabsters,
I am needing some help. This year, one of my "accessible" textbooks is
going to be in PDF format. Does anyone know of an accessible program
that I might be able to get a hold of that will convert this to a text
file, preferrably something that is not going to cost me? I am not
sure how well Adobe works with jaws, but from my past experience with
it, I haven't found it very helpful. Does anyone know how this might
work? Obviously I will need access to my textbook, so any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Ashley

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From jackson.dezman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 02:33:29 2009
From: jackson.dezman at gmail.com (Dezman Jackson)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:33:29 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] RFBD audio downloads
References: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJEEAGCIAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>
Message-ID: <6120E8703C4548348F8EC82DFAE49ADC@Dezman>

Rachael,

What problems are you having.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] RFBD audio downloads


> Has anyone used the new RFB and D audio plus downloads. I am trying to
> download books to a USB drive to read on my BrailleNote but am having
> problems. Hope you all are having a good school year.
> Rachel
>
>
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From Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com  Mon Aug 31 03:31:07 2009
From: Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com (Rachel Becker)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:31:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] graphing calculator
In-Reply-To: <8CBF7D9B42A5543-2E08-33505@webmail-d019.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <FHENLGICKACMNOHLGEFJCEAHCIAA.Rachel@BeckerConsultants.com>

Hi Jason. I'm so glad you joined this list! I didn't use a talking graphing calculator for my math classes. Good luck with everything and I hope you have a great eighth-grade year.
Rachel

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Polansky
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:38 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org; david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] graphing calculator


I think I might of sent this message to David Andrews, but I don't 
think I sent it to the whole nabs list. I typed in the address of when 
I got the confirmation message, not to the actual list serve. Hi my 
name is Jason. I am in eighth grade, and I need a graphing calculator 
that talks for algebra. Could any of you tell me about talking  I just 
joined the list serve about a few days ago, so that's why you haven't 
gotten any emails from me.graphing calculators.

-----Original Message-----
From: HAROLD SNIDER <hlsnider at verizon.net>
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: [nabs-l] Price reduced on items for sale

 From Linda Snider:


FOR SALE:      New T-Mobile Wing Smart Phone with
mobile speak, still in box, never
used, asking $150.00 or best offer;

New Plextalk PTR2/T1, still in box, never used, asking $450.00 or best 
offer;

Used Braille Sense Plus with current updates, one
16 GB compact flash card, two 2-GB compact flash
cards, one 4-GB thumb drive; one 4 GB compact
flash card; and one -1 GB compact flash card with
carrying case for flash cards, was asking
$4,500.00 reduced to $4,000.00. Have
original  box for shipping to you.<?xml:namespace
prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Scholar digital talking book player with Daisy,
Standard CD and MP3 formats, asking $100.00 or best offer;

  Nokia 6220 Classic KNFB Reader Mobil

with  extra battery, travel charger, earphones,
USB/phone cable, video cables, connectivity
cable, and leather clip on carrying case, asking $1000.00 plus 
shipping-firm;

MSI USB Dongle(bluetooth) asking $10.00;

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From kevin at kevinlarose.net  Mon Aug 31 14:30:43 2009
From: kevin at kevinlarose.net (Kevin LaRose)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:30:43 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
Message-ID: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492>

Sorry for the cross-post, but I wanted to maximize who this goes out to. 
After much effort and more than a little frustration, I'm all set up with 
RFB and D, have the download manager installed, and the user key is on my 
Stream. I have downloaded my first book, the textbook for the upcoming class 
I'm taking. My question: How do i get the book from my computer to the 
Stream so i can read it? I tried using the Humanware Companion, and it 
didn't recognize it. I tried copying directly to the SD card, still no luck. 
Am I wrong in assuming the book would go into the $dtb folder on the SD 
card? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and you'll even be my hero. <G> 
Thanks!
Kevin LaRose
<kevin at kevinlarose.net>
kflarose on Twitter, if you're so inclined 


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From albertyoo1 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 31 16:18:33 2009
From: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com (Albert Yoo)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:18:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW:  RFB and D Books on the Stream
In-Reply-To: <D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492>
	<BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
Message-ID: <BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>


Kevin, I hope this helps. Albert 
 
> Subject: RE: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:15:49 -0400
> From: nmoore at rfbd.org
> To: CArnold at rfbd.org
> CC: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
> 
> Hello Albert,
> 
> Yes you can download RFB&D books to your Victor Stream. Have you downloaded the User Authorization Key from our website, www.rfbd.org? It is a free download, but you will need that in order to open our books on your player. You will need to go to your online account at www.rfbd.org and click on the link to "My Account." Then scroll down to the middle of the screen and under "Other Options" click on "Authorize a Daisy Player". It will then open up a drop-down menu which you will select "Humanware Stream." 
> 
> Once you have the UAK downloaded to your player, you can then download and listen to RFB&D books on your Stream. 
> 
> If you run into any other problems, please contact our 24-hr customer Support Desk at 1-800-772-3248. They will be able to assist you with help with downloading. Of course, please feel free to contact us here at the DC office as well.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Nena
> 
> 
> 
> Nena R. Moore
> Director of Student Services
> Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic
> 5225 Wisconsin Ave. NW Suite # 312
> Washington, DC 20015
> (202) 244-8990 Office; (202) 244-1346 Fax
> Visit <mailto:nmoore at rfbd.org> www.learningthroughlistening.org <http://www.learningthroughlistening.org/> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Arnold, Courtney
> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:56 AM
> To: Moore, Nena
> Cc: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
> 
> 
> Hi! Nena,
> 
> Albert Yoo sent this message to me. Thought you might be able to answer Kevin's question.
> 
> Thanks,
> Courtney
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Albert Yoo [mailto:albertyoo1 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:37 AM
> To: Arnold, Courtney
> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: kevin at kevinlarose.net
> > To: nabs at acb.org
> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:30:43 -0700
> > CC: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
> > 
> > Sorry for the cross-post, but I wanted to maximize who this goes out to. 
> > After much effort and more than a little frustration, I'm all set up with 
> > RFB and D, have the download manager installed, and the user key is on my 
> > Stream. I have downloaded my first book, the textbook for the upcoming class 
> > I'm taking. My question: How do i get the book from my computer to the 
> > Stream so i can read it? I tried using the Humanware Companion, and it 
> > didn't recognize it. I tried copying directly to the SD card, still no luck. 
> > Am I wrong in assuming the book would go into the $dtb folder on the SD 
> > card? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and you'll even be my hero. <G> 
> > Thanks!
> > Kevin LaRose
> > <kevin at kevinlarose.net>
> > kflarose on Twitter, if you're so inclined 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm protected by SpamBrave
> > http://www.spambrave.com/
> > 
> > 
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From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 19:27:23 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:27:23 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: RFB and D Books on the Stream
In-Reply-To: <BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492>
	<BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908311227s4f8b21efr7845534c83c5867@mail.gmail.com>

I have everything set up, but the book I downloaded won't be
recognized by my stream either.  I put it in the right folder, but it
still won't recognize the book.  Any help for both of us would be
greatly appreciated.
Beth

On 8/31/09, Albert Yoo <albertyoo1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin, I hope this helps. Albert
>
>> Subject: RE: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:15:49 -0400
>> From: nmoore at rfbd.org
>> To: CArnold at rfbd.org
>> CC: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>>
>> Hello Albert,
>>
>> Yes you can download RFB&D books to your Victor Stream. Have you
>> downloaded the User Authorization Key from our website, www.rfbd.org? It
>> is a free download, but you will need that in order to open our books on
>> your player. You will need to go to your online account at www.rfbd.org
>> and click on the link to "My Account." Then scroll down to the middle of
>> the screen and under "Other Options" click on "Authorize a Daisy Player".
>> It will then open up a drop-down menu which you will select "Humanware
>> Stream."
>>
>> Once you have the UAK downloaded to your player, you can then download and
>> listen to RFB&D books on your Stream.
>>
>> If you run into any other problems, please contact our 24-hr customer
>> Support Desk at 1-800-772-3248. They will be able to assist you with help
>> with downloading. Of course, please feel free to contact us here at the DC
>> office as well.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Nena
>>
>>
>>
>> Nena R. Moore
>> Director of Student Services
>> Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic
>> 5225 Wisconsin Ave. NW Suite # 312
>> Washington, DC 20015
>> (202) 244-8990 Office; (202) 244-1346 Fax
>> Visit <mailto:nmoore at rfbd.org> www.learningthroughlistening.org
>> <http://www.learningthroughlistening.org/>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Arnold, Courtney
>> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:56 AM
>> To: Moore, Nena
>> Cc: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>>
>>
>> Hi! Nena,
>>
>> Albert Yoo sent this message to me. Thought you might be able to answer
>> Kevin's question.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Courtney
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Albert Yoo [mailto:albertyoo1 at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:37 AM
>> To: Arnold, Courtney
>> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: kevin at kevinlarose.net
>> > To: nabs at acb.org
>> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:30:43 -0700
>> > CC: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>> >
>> > Sorry for the cross-post, but I wanted to maximize who this goes out to.
>> >
>> > After much effort and more than a little frustration, I'm all set up
>> > with
>> > RFB and D, have the download manager installed, and the user key is on
>> > my
>> > Stream. I have downloaded my first book, the textbook for the upcoming
>> > class
>> > I'm taking. My question: How do i get the book from my computer to the
>> > Stream so i can read it? I tried using the Humanware Companion, and it
>> > didn't recognize it. I tried copying directly to the SD card, still no
>> > luck.
>> > Am I wrong in assuming the book would go into the $dtb folder on the SD
>> > card? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and you'll even be my hero.
>> > <G>
>> > Thanks!
>> > Kevin LaRose
>> > <kevin at kevinlarose.net>
>> > kflarose on Twitter, if you're so inclined
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm protected by SpamBrave
>> > http://www.spambrave.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > nabs-l mailing list
>> > nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> > nabs-l:
>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Facebook. Find out more.
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>>
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From liz.bottner at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 19:46:07 2009
From: liz.bottner at gmail.com (Liz Bottner)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:46:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: RFB and D Books on the Stream
In-Reply-To: <4383d01d0908311227s4f8b21efr7845534c83c5867@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492>	<BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl>	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>	<BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
	<4383d01d0908311227s4f8b21efr7845534c83c5867@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a9c2857.9753f10a.4a45.ffff91dd@mx.google.com>

Beth, 

Do you have the user key for your Stream? 

Liz

email: 
liz.bottner at gmail.com 
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From freespirit328 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 19:58:04 2009
From: freespirit328 at gmail.com (Jennifer Aberdeen)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:58:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NLS download site
Message-ID: <62DB51D798804EE08D666DA748F41600@Gateway>

Does anyone know if there's a way to make requests for certain books to be made available for download, or do I just need to wait and see every week what becomes available?

I just looked through the latest list of books, and for the second week in a row, there's nothing good.

Jen

Jen

www.youravon.com/jaberdeen

Jennifer Aberdeen
PO Box 1184
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-415-5815
401-644-5607
freespirit328 at gmail.com

From thebluesisloose at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 20:39:19 2009
From: thebluesisloose at gmail.com (Beth)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:39:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: RFB and D Books on the Stream
In-Reply-To: <4a9c2857.9753f10a.4a45.ffff91dd@mx.google.com>
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492>
	<BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
	<4383d01d0908311227s4f8b21efr7845534c83c5867@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a9c2857.9753f10a.4a45.ffff91dd@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4383d01d0908311339y7c5687ebg896450872d675c4@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I have a user key for the stream, and it's all on there.
Beth

On 8/31/09, Liz Bottner <liz.bottner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Beth,
>
> Do you have the user key for your Stream?
>
> Liz
>
> email:
> liz.bottner at gmail.com
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From kayleigh281 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 31 22:36:36 2009
From: kayleigh281 at yahoo.com (Kayleigh Joiner)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nabs-l] Talking Scientific Calculator solutions
Message-ID: <273146.70405.qm@web52001.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hello NABS listers,
My name is Kayleigh and I am a high school senior in Texas. I have had a little bit of experience with a calculator called the Orion TI-83. Here is a link that compares this calculator along with several other talking scientific calculators so that you can see which one will work best for you. The one that I am referring to is in the second table. 
http://www.tsbvi.edu/math/talk-sci-calc.htm

That calculator will only speak the scientific part of it. In order to deal with the graphing part of math you can download a product called the Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC). This is a piece of software that you use on a computer. You can download it for a 30 day trial and if you like it you can then purchase a liscense for it. Here is that link:
http://www.tsbvi.edu/math/talk-sci-calc.htm

This information is from a teacher that is certified in teaching math and blind/visually impaired students. 

If you have any other questions about other school subjects feel free to email me off list at: kayleigh281 at yahoo.com 
I hope that this information helps.

Sincerely,
Kayleigh



From tealbloodworth at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 23:49:41 2009
From: tealbloodworth at gmail.com (Teal Bloodworth)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:49:41 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] FW:  RFB and D Books on the Stream
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492><BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl><D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org><D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>
	<BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4EA7A1CD0672491693622ACA7D9F7E0C@teal6e6857f643>

ok well how do you get from book 2 to book 1 because i look for a low page 
number and it says to insert disc 1. i am using a zip electronic form from 
publisher transfered from ABC file to ZIP. Also how do you load music?

            -teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert Yoo" <albertyoo1 at hotmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] FW: RFB and D Books on the Stream


>
> Kevin, I hope this helps. Albert
>
>> Subject: RE: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:15:49 -0400
>> From: nmoore at rfbd.org
>> To: CArnold at rfbd.org
>> CC: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>>
>> Hello Albert,
>>
>> Yes you can download RFB&D books to your Victor Stream. Have you 
>> downloaded the User Authorization Key from our website, www.rfbd.org? It 
>> is a free download, but you will need that in order to open our books on 
>> your player. You will need to go to your online account at www.rfbd.org 
>> and click on the link to "My Account." Then scroll down to the middle of 
>> the screen and under "Other Options" click on "Authorize a Daisy Player". 
>> It will then open up a drop-down menu which you will select "Humanware 
>> Stream."
>>
>> Once you have the UAK downloaded to your player, you can then download 
>> and listen to RFB&D books on your Stream.
>>
>> If you run into any other problems, please contact our 24-hr customer 
>> Support Desk at 1-800-772-3248. They will be able to assist you with help 
>> with downloading. Of course, please feel free to contact us here at the 
>> DC office as well.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Nena
>>
>>
>>
>> Nena R. Moore
>> Director of Student Services
>> Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic
>> 5225 Wisconsin Ave. NW Suite # 312
>> Washington, DC 20015
>> (202) 244-8990 Office; (202) 244-1346 Fax
>> Visit <mailto:nmoore at rfbd.org> www.learningthroughlistening.org 
>> <http://www.learningthroughlistening.org/>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Arnold, Courtney
>> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:56 AM
>> To: Moore, Nena
>> Cc: albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>>
>>
>> Hi! Nena,
>>
>> Albert Yoo sent this message to me. Thought you might be able to answer 
>> Kevin's question.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Courtney
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Albert Yoo [mailto:albertyoo1 at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 11:37 AM
>> To: Arnold, Courtney
>> Subject: FW: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: kevin at kevinlarose.net
>> > To: nabs at acb.org
>> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:30:43 -0700
>> > CC: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: [nabs-l] RFB and D Books on the Stream
>> >
>> > Sorry for the cross-post, but I wanted to maximize who this goes out 
>> > to.
>> > After much effort and more than a little frustration, I'm all set up 
>> > with
>> > RFB and D, have the download manager installed, and the user key is on 
>> > my
>> > Stream. I have downloaded my first book, the textbook for the upcoming 
>> > class
>> > I'm taking. My question: How do i get the book from my computer to the
>> > Stream so i can read it? I tried using the Humanware Companion, and it
>> > didn't recognize it. I tried copying directly to the SD card, still no 
>> > luck.
>> > Am I wrong in assuming the book would go into the $dtb folder on the SD
>> > card? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and you'll even be my 
>> > hero. <G>
>> > Thanks!
>> > Kevin LaRose
>> > <kevin at kevinlarose.net>
>> > kflarose on Twitter, if you're so inclined
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm protected by SpamBrave
>> > http://www.spambrave.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > nabs-l mailing list
>> > nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> > nabs-l:
>> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/albertyoo1 at hotmail.com
>>
>>
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>>
>> Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you're up to on 
>> Facebook. Find out more. 
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>
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From liz.bottner at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 23:56:52 2009
From: liz.bottner at gmail.com (Liz Bottner)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:56:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] FW:  RFB and D Books on the Stream
In-Reply-To: <4EA7A1CD0672491693622ACA7D9F7E0C@teal6e6857f643>
References: <C607DD602EEC491E859B0792DA6B4DAB@acer6e40e97492><BAY105-W34F9DD6C2581EB4EF38D4D8BF20@phx.gbl><D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7ECC15510@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org><D31EF26F8994CF41AAAA2F87FE11F7EC0117EEAA@EX2K3CLUSTER.RFBD.org>	<BAY105-W10B5492F00EAAEE3AE5B0A8BF20@phx.gbl>
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To  get from different books, you would have to switch folders. The books
should come in individual folders as to their CD number. 

Liz

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From guitargirl89 at windstream.net  Mon Aug 31 21:45:05 2009
From: guitargirl89 at windstream.net (stacy timberlake)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:45:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] graphing calculator
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Message-ID: <E693F585345948D2892B6A24DE328DB4@StacyPC>

    There is a free graphing calculator program that you can download to 
your computer called mathtrax  (it is downloadable from the NASA website)  I 
haven't personally had any luck using it (but I dropped the class it was 
needed  for so I never played around with it enough to figure it out)  It 
was what was recommended to me when I called the national center so it may 
be worth looking into (plus it's free so if it isn't good--no loss)
-Stacy
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From: "Polansky" <jaedpo96 at aol.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:38 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] graphing calculator


>I think I might of sent this message to David Andrews, but I don't
> think I sent it to the whole nabs list. I typed in the address of when
> I got the confirmation message, not to the actual list serve. Hi my
> name is Jason. I am in eighth grade, and I need a graphing calculator
> that talks for algebra. Could any of you tell me about talking  I just
> joined the list serve about a few days ago, so that's why you haven't
> gotten any emails from me.graphing calculators.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HAROLD SNIDER <hlsnider at verizon.net>
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 10:12 pm
> Subject: [nabs-l] Price reduced on items for sale
>
> From Linda Snider:
>
>
> FOR SALE:      New T-Mobile Wing Smart Phone with
> mobile speak, still in box, never
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>
> New Plextalk PTR2/T1, still in box, never used, asking $450.00 or best
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>
> Used Braille Sense Plus with current updates, one
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> $4,500.00 reduced to $4,000.00. Have
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>
> Scholar digital talking book player with Daisy,
> Standard CD and MP3 formats, asking $100.00 or best offer;
>
>  Nokia 6220 Classic KNFB Reader Mobil
>
> with  extra battery, travel charger, earphones,
> USB/phone cable, video cables, connectivity
> cable, and leather clip on carrying case, asking $1000.00 plus
> shipping-firm;
>
> MSI USB Dongle(bluetooth) asking $10.00;
>
> Used slightly-Telex cassette duplicator – 1
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>
> These items belong to my late husband.  Please
> contact me at hlsnider at earthlink.net  or call 301 460-4142 to discuss.
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