[nabs-l] Schools for the Blind vs. Public School Education

Wed Jun 17 21:20:26 UTC 2009

Excellent point Sarah.

Dezman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Schools for the Blind vs. Public School Education

> don't forget Louis Braille. Where would we be without him?
>
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> Quoting Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> Hello Nathan and listers,
>>
>>     Not all together true. There are numerous blind individuals that
>> attended schools for the blind and later had distinguished careers in 
>> their
>> field of interest. Here is a short list:
>>
>> Helen Keller
>> Dr. Jacob Bolotin, (The first successful blind doctor in the United 
>> States)
>> Dr. Nuel Perry, (Former Director of the California School for the Blind 
>> and
>> mentor to Dr. Jacobus TenBroek)
>> Dr. Jacobus TenBroek, (Founder of the National Federation of the Blind 
>> and
>> distinguished scholar of law and a Speech Professor )
>> Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, (World authority on blindness and a teacher of 
>> blind
>> children. He is the immediate past-President of the National Federation 
>> of
>> the Blind and a pioneer in blindness rehabilitation)
>> Dr. T.V. (Tim)  Cranmer, (Inventor of technology for the blind including 
>> the
>> Cranmer Abacus, the Braille-N Speak, and other assistive technology and
>> services for the blind.)
>> Fanny Crosby, (19th Century blind hymn composer and poet
>> Peggy Pinder-Eliot, (A successful lawyer, former NFB Board Member and a 
>> past
>> NFB scholarship recipient and past scholarship committee chairperson)
>> Richard Ossinger, Successful Blind Entrepreneur)
>> Ray Charles
>> Stevie Wunder
>> Ronnie Milsap
>> Tom Sullivan
>> Glenn Crosby, (A successful blind restaurantor)
>>
>>     I believe that the above list gives some examples of successful blind
>> individuals who received part or all of their education from a school for
>> the blind.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nathan Clark" <troubleclark at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Schools for the Blind vs. Public School Education
>>
>>
>> it is just go and graduate and then try to find a job. Most students
>> from school for the blind don't usually go to college right?
>> nathan
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/09, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good point, Nathan.  I think a lot of schools for the blind are
>>> sheltered communities with no real world things to look forward to.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> On 6/17/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I am in a public school and I am glad I did not go to a school for the
>>>> blind. Some of the kids at school for the blinds may have more than
>>>> blindness as a disability we are talking mental retardation or other
>>>> problems. I love it in public school due to the fact that when I get
>>>> out in the job market I will probably will not see other blind people
>>>> at the job. By vgoing to public school I am being forced to be
>>>> prepared to what I will face when I get out into the real world.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/16/09, Mary Donahue <braille at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Denna and listers,
>>>>>
>>>>>     When I started school in the late 1950s, there wasn't much choice.
>>>>> If
>>>>> my
>>>>> family and I had stayed in the Chicago area, I would have been able to
>>>>> go
>>>>> to
>>>>> public school. However, in early 1958, we moved to Eau Claire,
>>>>> Wisconsin.
>>>>> My
>>>>> mother would have liked me to go to public school, but the school
>>>>> district
>>>>> would not budge in its thinking. If I went, then there would be no way
>>>>> of
>>>>> getting my material, and I was the only blind child at the time in 
>>>>> that
>>>>> district. Therefore, it meant driving 220 miles to the State School 
>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>> Visually Handicapped in Janesville, which was quite traumatic for me.
>>>>> Looking back, though, I have no regrets. My first-grade teacher taught
>>>>> me
>>>>> Braille, I eventually learned cane travel, which I probably wouldn't
>>>>> have
>>>>> received in public school. The same goes for daily living skills and
>>>>> social
>>>>> skills.
>>>>>
>>>>>     At any rate, those are my thoughts. Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <dlambert at aristotle.net>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Schools for the Blind vs. Public School Education
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost 10 days until convention.  I'm very much excited about coming,
>>>>>> especially since I haven't
>>>>>> been in two years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I wanted to pose a question that could possibly lead to some
>>>>>> research
>>>>>> later on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In determine what type of education you would receive, were you given
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> opportunity to provide
>>>>>> input as to whether a school for the blind was a good option vs. an
>>>>>> education in a public school
>>>>>> system.  What were your experience in which ever educational setting
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> ended up in?  Looking
>>>>>> back, what would you have changed or wanted to have happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any input would be great.  I'll provide my input publicly later on, 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> just wanted to get a feel
>>>>>> for the range of experiences people may have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Denna Lambert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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