[nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?

[Jess]

Joseph,
I just have a harder time seeing at night. Also, too when we ride the bus in 
the evening or night time the stop we get off at isn't lit at all. So in 
turn that makes the bus stop very dark. The bus stop is also by the side of 
a grocery store as well.  Although I'm extremely photophobic during the day 
I get used after a while to being out in the sun. I also do use a cane a bit 
more often now since I made the decision not to wear regular glasses because 
I found that they really weren't helping me out. Actually, I had known that 
pretty much since I was about in the sixth or seventh grade that they 
weren't really working for me. I didn't at the time really know how to tell 
the eye doctor that the glasses weren't working for me. In fact the second 
to the last pair I got here in New York State the Optometrist finally when I 
went back for my last two year check up with her she told me she accidently 
over corrected them to much. I do wear prescription sunglasses though when I 
remember to take them with me.
Jessica
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?


> Jess,
>
> It's unfortunate that you didn't have O&M under sleepshade.  You really 
> learn to pay attention doing it that way, especially if you have someone 
> pointing out the things blocks away that you should be hearing.
>
> You have more trouble at night?  Why's that, headlights?
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:18:15PM -0400, Jess wrote:
>>Ashley and Jim.
>>I've attended a state run training center in Utah in 2001 and although I 
>>have significant usable vision to where I'm considered legally blind I did 
>>have to wear a blindfold in at at least one of the classes that I took. It 
>>was the Adaptive Daily Living Skills  because the instructor was trying to 
>>make it a level playing field for the totally blind people in the group. I 
>>also got out of doing O&M because I basically told them that I didn't need 
>>it during the day which was the time that it was being done. I also said 
>>to them I need  O&ME training more at night because that's when I have a 
>>harder time traveling. The only other time I was forced to use the 
>>blindfold was in a Braille class. Pretty much all the other classes I 
>>didn't have to use the blindfold. Now, a Staunchly NFB member is now in 
>>charge of running the training program.  I know the person who runs it now 
>>because he was one of the assistive technology trainers at the center.
>>Jessica
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:03 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> This is my opinion and  I will be in the minority and hope not to be 
>>> attacked.  If your vision is stable and you
>>> can function well with print and other visual skills, then don't do 
>>> training now.  Yes its a lot of time  and effort on your part to learn 
>>> skills you'll likely never need.
>>>
>>> Some visually impaired people I know never learn braille and they do 
>>> well; they are successful at work.
>>>
>>> NFB centers imerse you in nonvisual skills and you are blindfolded. 
>>> Does your state offer a state rehab center?  Often state centers allow 
>>> you to use low vision techniques and use nonvisual ones as needed.  What 
>>> state do you live in?  You may consider a state center where you can 
>>> choose what you need rather than a nfb center first.
>>> So I think if your vision is stable there is no need to go for blindness 
>>> training now.  I commend your decission to learn to use a cane. Many 
>>> high partials like yourself never try it.  Learning and using a cane 
>>> will not only help you travel better but it will identify your visual 
>>> impairment and eliminate the need to explain sometimes.  I have usable 
>>> vision although not as much as you.  We both have tunnel vision.  So 
>>> I've always used visual and nonvisual techniques to function.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>>
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