[nabs-l] negative traffic

[Ashley Bramlett]

Where is the proof the ACB president really said these things?  I'd like to 
read up on it.  It just doesn't sound right.

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From: "clinton waterbury" <clinton.waterbury at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] negative traffic


>O yay, so first we're the cause of the origon audit, second we  shouldn't 
>exist, thard we're on the wrong side of about every issue,  and finally... 
>We're probably operating illegally?  What the hell is  the matter with the 
>guy running things over there as the president?  I  think we should go 
>ahead and not even mess with the ACB untill they  get a president who 
>actually doesn't want to slander us for no damned  reason other than to 
>frther their own agenda!On May 19, 2009, at 12:23  PM, T. Joseph Carter 
>wrote:
>
>> Sarah, would you honestly like me to forward the hate and rage that  was 
>> directed at me while I was on their list?  I've got hundreds of  messages 
>> collected in just a few weeks.
>>
>> According to the current, sitting ACB president, the NFB is not a 
>> consumer organization.  It is a rehabilitation agency and sales 
>> organization fraudulently pretending to be consumer driven.  It is  on 
>> the wrong side of just about every issue, because being on the  right 
>> side hurts its profits.  It should not exist, and is probably  operating 
>> illegally.
>>
>> We call that a non-starter.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:30:23AM -0400, Sarah J. Blake wrote:
>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> I regularly attend ACB conventions and would take exception to  your 
>>> assertion that 3/4 of ACB traffic is negative toward  anything. That is 
>>> a  pretty negative statement in itself. I wasn't  going to comment on 
>>> it; bt  this is the kind of un-constructive  comment that prevents 
>>> dialogue. I see a lot of NFB members emailing  with the signature, "We 
>>> must be the change we wish to see in the  world..." Why not put it into 
>>> practice...? Then again, maybe the  division doesn't bother you. If you 
>>> like it, put it in positive  words for us. I disagree with Arielle's 
>>> points, but I appreciated  her positive spin on the benefits of having 
>>> two organiations.
>>>
>>> In reality, whenever you put thousands of people together, many of  whom 
>>> are over 55, there will likely be a good deal of negative  energy unless 
>>> there is a concerted effort to build positive energy.  The very nature 
>>> of dealing with blindness issues is that some  negative energy must be 
>>> dealt with. Regardless of how many  blindness skills we have, how many 
>>> gadgets we have to enable us to  do xxx, or how accessible the 
>>> environment is, things will take  longer and be more cumbersome and we 
>>> will always battle negative  attitudes; and it is a pain in the behind. 
>>> Part of what happens at  conventions is that people realize, "Hey, 
>>> someone gets it." Part of  what happens is that someone will confront 
>>> someone about the fact  that they need to grow up and stop being such a 
>>> whiner because we  all live this. Part of what happens is that we 
>>> wrangle about what  on earth to advocate for--and we can't agree because 
>>> despite having  blindness in common, we all cope just a bit differently. 
>>> It does  create negative energy, regardless of which organization a 
>>> person  belongs to. I suspect there is negative energy in every advocacy 
>>> organization in existence. In fact, I took a leadership course this 
>>> spring in which there were only six participants. We did mock 
>>> controversies; and you would be amazed at the negative energy that  was 
>>> generated!
>>>
>>> Sarah J. Blake
>>> Personal email: sjblake at growingstrong.org
>>> http://www.growingstrong.org
>>>
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