[nabs-l] Employment Seminar Recordings

Arielle Silverman arielle71 at gmail.com
Fri May 22 21:41:52 UTC 2009

Hi all,

I don't know the details about Buna's statement, but perhaps she'd be
open to it if somebody is willing to come up with the equipment. If
enough people want it recorded this year, then figure out how much
equipment will cost, or if anyone is willing to donate it, and let
Buna know. I got the impression that she is open to the idea, but just
was unsure about whether equipment can be found or purchased in time
for convention.


On 5/23/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Peter and Jim,
> Its disappointing that the employment seminar will not be recorded.  I do
> understand Jim's frustration.  But I see where Arielle is coming from in
> terms of funding.  NABs did not want to fund it because its an event
> targeted to everyone not just students.
> Maybe next year's will be recorded.   For now I second what you said Peter.
> Please make it a priority to
> record the nabs meeting and post it to the division website.  I would
> listen.  I think it will be beneficial for all then.
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:48 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Employment Seminar Recordings
>> Hello Jim and listers,
>>    At the end of the day the Employment Committee Chairperson decided that
>> it was best not to record this year's employment workshop. She had no
>> objection to this being done, but felt that it would be better to hold off
>> and make better plans to do this next year. As the NFB Living  History
>> Group
>> gets up and running in a big way we expect to be recording more convention
>> break-out events. Perhaps a better goal is to ensure that this year's NABS
>> meeting is recorded for posting on the division Web Site. Your efforts
>> weren't in vein. We feel that it's best to hold off with this one and make
>> better plans to do it in the future.
>> Peter Donahue
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Reed" <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NABS mail list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:05 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACB/NFB
>> Dave,
>> How are we supposed to "walk the walk" when there is so much negitivity
>> coming from NABS leadership regarding this issue (how it wont work)?
>> Specificly, I remember one post (I don't know who sent it) that said
>> something along the lines of "I don't see the harm in trying, but NABS is
>> not (should not) pay for it." Why should I devote my time and energy to
>> this
>> effort when I know it will get shut down when I ask NABS for funding?
>> The same thing happened when I floated the idea of recording the national
>> convention employment seminar. (actually, I thing it was worse. I felt
>> decieved). First, several people in the NABS leadership (including
>> Areielle
>> Silverman) mentioned that they thought it was a good idea that was worthy
>> of
>> being pursued. So, I pursued the idea thinking that I had the support of
>> NABS, then, when it came time for NABS to fund the idea, I get an email
>> from
>> Arielle Silverman saying something along the lines of "sorry, this isn't a
>> NABS event/project, therefore NABS can't/won't fund it." I put alot of
>> time
>> and effort into pursuing that idea, just to find out that when
>> push-comes-to-shove, I really did not have the support of NABS.
>> So, I ask you, why should I invest the time and energy into
>> "walking-the-walk", when I was decieved last time, and clearly NABS has no
>> interest in pursuing a joint convention?
>> Jim
>> From: "Dave Wright" <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> Good afternoon all,
>> While I've really enjoyed reading all of these messages about finding a
>> way
>> to set aside the differences of both organizations in order to find a
>> common
>> ground on the student level, I'm wondering whether or not if any of the
>> proponents of this idea have taken an active role of setting up a meetting
>> involving students of both organizations on a local level. Since I believe
>> that students should have a choice when it comes to advocacy, I don't mind
>> that there are more than one organization advocating for the rights of
>> blind
>> students. I know how easy it is to talk the talk, but walking the walk and
>> being an active proponent for change is much harder. While the thought of
>> national change is perhaps an idealistic view, lets try first dealing with
>> local change. I know this discussion has leaked over to the ACB listServe
>> and believe both sides have positive feedback to offer.
>> Just my thoughts.
>> Best Regards:
>> Dave Wright
>> Work Phone: 651-636-5184 X803
>> Email:
>> dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>> WebPage:
>> http://www.knfbreader.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology."
>> Homer: "Oh, that sounds too complicated."
>> Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>> Homer: "Okay, I will!"
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