[nabs-l] ACB VS NFB

Sat Nov 21 21:27:03 UTC 2009

Perhaps its based on experience the kind of help you get for
understanding the split. But, I and the rest of the students in YESSI
haven't found much support other than being told to read the books. I
intend to, although students don't really have a lot of free time on
our hands. I am a full time student, a president, vice president, and
secretary of three different NFB chapter/devisions, and I am a sales
rep for another blind support product. I have family and other
obligations, so I have been unable to sit and read. Many of th epeople
I've asked about the matter have been less than encouraging, although
I admit not all of them have been this way.

Thank you.
Aziza
California Association of Blind Students, First Vice-President
Channel Islands Chapter, Secretary
Young Energetic Students Supporting Independence, President
www.yessinfb.org

On 11/21/09, Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net> wrote:
> I would agree. It is best to check it out for yourself and come to your
> own conclusions.
>
> There is one thing that I felt worth mentioning. Aziza said that one
> doesn't get far in the NFB when asking about the ACB. I haven't found
> that to e true, and I live in Washington State where our history with
> the ACB was as bloody as that in California. More to the point, I think
> it depends on who you ask. When I asked people in the NfB, they said
> the same thing we're saying: do the research and discover the
> differences and similarities yourself. However, they were more than
> happy to share their opinions based on reesearch and past experience
> and were also willing to help me find the best material I could find on
> the subject.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
>
> Original message:
>> I'll say that  it's probably best to research things and come up with
>> your own conclution.
>>  Now that I've said that, I'm going to give you something to think about
>> :).
>>  It's been my understanding that the NFB has had a pretty straight
>> forward see what the problem is and do what it takes to  change it
>> even if it means changing the whole system- point of view.
>>   The ACB is said to have  "no philosiphy" in that  they don't have a
>> real strong stance on something.
>>   They have been viewed as a "come as you are" orginazation.  They
>> may take different stances on  some of the big things that the NFB
>> might take  (such as audible intersections) but  they basically
>> believe in independence and having the ability to live  learn and
>> workas anybody else who is not blind as the NFB does.
>>  Again, best to kind of check it out for yourself.
>>  Best,
>>   Darian.
>
>> On 11/20/09, Aziza C <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I agree with Amy. Besides, when you speak of the differences between
>>> the two organizations, you don't tend to get very far in the NFB,
>>> (Sorry guys, its the truth.) I've vowed to research the two
>>> organizations' histories, however issues in my personal and
>>> educational life have prevented me from having the time...
>
>>>> From what I understand, and this is not based on any oppinion I have,
>>> the difference between the NFB and the ACB is we are more straight
>>> forward, we apparently, "destroy," things that have problems in them,
>>> then "rebuild them," whereas the ACB works to "fix as they go," by
>>> making small adjustments here and there until it is fixed.
>
>>> Like any group of people we disagree on certain topics, like the
>>> accessibility of money. But, again this is only what I've heard. I
>>> have no oppinion as of now, except for the oppinion that somehow,
>>> eventually the two organizations need to reconcile and agree to
>>> disagree and the members need to stop picking on each other and
>>> avoiding the topic like the pleague. Maybe I'm just making wistful
>>> wishes, but time will tell.
>
>>> Thank you.
>
>>> Aziza Cano>> California Association of Blind Students First
>>> Vice-President
>>> Channel Islands Chapter, Secretary
>>> Young Energetic Students Supporting Independence, President
>>> www.yessinfb.org
>
>>> On 11/20/09, aphelps at bism.org <aphelps at bism.org> wrote:
>>>> Mark, any number of people can give you their opinion about the
>>>> difference
>>>> but you should form your own. Read and compare the presidential annual
>>>> reports of the two then form your own opinion.  There is also a document
>>>> written by the President of the ACB where he outlines the philosophy of
>>>> the
>>>> ACB. I suggest you read and then decide for yourself the difference.
>
>>>> Amy
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:45:43
>>>> To: NABS<nabs at acb.org>; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACB VS NFB
>
>>>> What are the ideological differences between the NFB and the ACB?
>
>
>
>>>> Thanks
>
>>>> Mark
>
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