[nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
Teal Bloodworth
tealbloodworth at gmail.com
Tue Sep 22 21:26:12 UTC 2009
Hello All
Today in developmental psych my teacher was talking about babies imitating
adults facial expressions. Adult leans over crib and makes a face with a
noise like ooh aww and baby mimics this.
Then i caught her off guard like if baby couldnt see this facial expression.
This was appropriate since i am the only totally blind person in my schools
history and i have a guide dog. She replied with certain words naturally
give yu the appropriate facial expression. This meand that happy things give
yu a smile naturally and mean things are hard to say with a smile.
This may answer the conversation we had going.
-Teal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
>I have dark glasses because of severe light sensitivity. I didn't intend to
>imply I was emotionless, just that people say I am.
>
> I have been blind since birth. I don't intend to look unfriendly, just
> friends and family and the like say I do.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Teal Bloodworth" <tealbloodworth at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
>
>
>> you dont show any emotion? I am sorry but that is hard to
>> believe....maybe the facial expression you do show is presumibly
>> unfriendly?
>>
>> As for them not talking to you that is rediculus. The dark shades is
>> alittle stereotipical for me but i oddly keep my eyes open....Not sure
>> why and i say i am totally blind but i dont just see darkness. This is
>> probably a psychological factor in that i see a type of gray scale all
>> the time and in department stores it seems to be lighter because of the
>> numerous florescent lighting but other times i cannot really tell for
>> sure whether i am in a lighted room or not. Have you been blind or
>> visually impaired since birth? I have found a slight difference in
>> personality characteristics in people blind since birth and those that
>> have become blind in the middle of life. And honestly i have heard of
>> people who wear the dark shades but never personally met anyone that
>> does. Can i ask you why you choose to do so?
>>
>> -Teal
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
>>
>>
>>> Most sighted people just think I am angry or something based off my
>>> facial expression. I am just neutral, neither happy nor mad or any ware
>>> else on the emotional spectrum. Some people don't like it when I don't
>>> make/keep eye contact. Sometimes people don't talk to me, because they
>>> think I am too unreadable at times.
>>>
>>> As a side note, how do you think wearing dark sunglasses all the time
>>> affects others reaction to you? In my experience my dark glasses and
>>> occasionally emotionless body language create a lot of oukword
>>> situations.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Teal Bloodworth" <tealbloodworth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Honestly, yes i have had vision before but my eye movement via TBI isnt
>>>> the best however people say through my facial expressions and ability
>>>> to look in the direction of the person thanks to depth perception
>>>> people say i dont even look blind. I am not sure of what a typical
>>>> blind person looks like but i believe all of these reflexes you are
>>>> describing comes naturally from your environment and maturation during
>>>> infancy. We are actually talking about this in developmental psych.
>>>> Reflexes like reaching, grabbing and walking and talking is a distinct
>>>> developmental stage according to piaget. Some say we learn these
>>>> through environment and social interaction while others say it is a
>>>> specific cognative change in our biological being.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with yu that it is a very interesting question and this topic
>>>> is a personal interest. As for showing the world when you are pissed
>>>> off or sad or even happy i dont think you learn from actually seeing
>>>> other peoples responses to an action. I believe you learn these
>>>> emotions through personality development of what actions give you these
>>>> feelings, then these feelings are visually portrayed naturally.
>>>>
>>>> Dont quote me on anything, this is my opinion of the answer to your
>>>> question...i am a social work/psychology major
>>>>
>>>> -Teal
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joseph C. Lininger" <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Awkward Situations: What would you do?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Teal,
>>>>> LOL That's funny. Honestly, I've never had much sight and never had
>>>>> muscle control over my eyes. So I don't know much about looking at
>>>>> other
>>>>> people, eye contact, that sort of thing. I have been told it's
>>>>> disconcerting for a person to never make eye contact, and that it's
>>>>> even
>>>>> more disconcerting for a person to make eye contact constantly and
>>>>> never
>>>>> break it. I'm afraid I never learned the finer points though.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is somewhat related, and I'd be curious to know what the
>>>>> psychologists and sociologists among you think. I'll need to lay a
>>>>> little ground work for the more general question, so bare with me.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> known for some time that my emotions and moods are communicated
>>>>> visually, at least sometimes. But I had something happen that actually
>>>>> got me curious about trying to find out exactly how it happens. We had
>>>>> a
>>>>> router go down in a data center at a company I had been working for a
>>>>> few months ago. I'd had a bad day the day before trying to get
>>>>> everything working, and that router went down at about 4 am and took
>>>>> the
>>>>> entire company off the Internet. Well, I came out of my hotel room and
>>>>> one of the first things the guy driving me to the data center said
>>>>> was,
>>>>> "wow Joe, you look really pissed off. Like maybe you'd like to kill
>>>>> someone." I hadn't given any hint to being pissed off, though I was. I
>>>>> wasn't even aware of it being communicated in my looks, I'd tried to
>>>>> look pleasant and ready for another day despite the promise of yet
>>>>> more
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> After this, I became curious about exactly how expressive or not I was
>>>>> with body language, facial expressions, etc. I asked people who had
>>>>> known me for a while, mainly family members about it and they all said
>>>>> I
>>>>> was in fact expressive visually, at least to a point. My sister even
>>>>> provided a running commentary one day for a few minutes on what my
>>>>> face
>>>>> was doing while conversing with people at her house. So, here's my
>>>>> question.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always thought that at least to a point people learned these
>>>>> expressions and that mostly by observing those around them and
>>>>> learning
>>>>> what they meant. I knew basic stuff like a smile or frown didn't work
>>>>> that way, and I could even understand certain reflexive expressions.
>>>>> For
>>>>> example, stiffening in response to fear or anger. However, I thought
>>>>> the
>>>>> more detailed stuff, arching eyebrows, moving of the eyes with certain
>>>>> expressions, that sort of thing was learned behavior. Well, seeing in
>>>>> how I can't see others doing these things and never have been able to,
>>>>> how would I have possibly picked them up? Have any experiments been
>>>>> done
>>>>> regarding such things? And more interesting... Some stuff, such as
>>>>> nodding, shaking the head, or shrugging, I had to be specifically
>>>>> taught
>>>>> those while I didn't other expressions. Does anyone have any ideas on
>>>>> what governs what visual cues are natural or learned in spite of lack
>>>>> of
>>>>> vision and which must be picked up visually?
>>>>> - --
>>>>> Stress (N): The condition that occurs when ones mind overrides the
>>>>> body's natural desire to reach out and slap the hell out of someone
>>>>> who desperately deserves it.
>>>>> Joseph C. Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
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