[nabs-l] nabs-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 19
Jennifer Applegate
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> 1. Conference Call tomorrow, April 20, 2010, at 8:00 PM EST
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> 2. New List for Blind Conservatives (RyanO)
> 3. Re: Not Just Your Average Cane (T. Joseph Carter)
> 4. Help-Philosophy Question (Candice Chapman)
> 5. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Kerri Kosten)
> 6. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Anjelina)
> 7. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Briley Pollard)
> 8. Re: Bulletin board software (Joseph C. Lininger)
> 9. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Darian Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:38:23 -0500
> From: "Diggs, Parnell" <PDiggs at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
> <dandrews at visi.com>)
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Conference Call tomorrow, April 20, 2010, at 8:00 PM
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> Dear Colleagues:
>
> Some of my fellow Federationists have asked me to conduct a
> fundraising seminar for those participating in the 2010 Race for
> Independence.
>
> The Dallas Convention is approaching fast, and we need to kick it
> into high gear for the final push to generate proceeds for NFB
> programs at the national, state, and local levels.
>
> If you have signed-up for the Race for Independence, or if you plan
> to do so, please call into (800) 910-2399 and use code 573791
> tomorrow night, Tuesday, April 20, at 8:00 p.m. (eastern).
>
> The call will last no longer than thirty minutes. During this brief
> call, you will be able to hear from some of those who have already
> met their fundraising goals for 2010.
>
> Find out how they did it. There is ample time to raise $250 by July
> 31, but we need to start now. I look forward to your participation
> in this important call, and I thank you for the work you are doing.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Parnell Diggs, Chairman
> National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:32:10 -0500
> From: "RyanO" <ryano218 at comcast.net> (by way of David Andrews
> <dandrews at visi.com>)
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] New List for Blind Conservatives
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> I have been asked to circulate the following:
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> In October, 2008, a fellow Federationist and I were asked to reach
> out to the McCain campaign in hopes of persuading a representative to
> come speak at our monthly Denver chapter meeting on the topic of
> disability issues. We already had a rep from the Obama campaign in
> the person of one of our members, who was an official Obama
> surrogate. After several days of phone tag, I was informed that the
> McCain camp would not be sending a representative to speak to us. The
> reason I was given was because, "Obama was just too far ahead on
> disability issues."
>
> I and my fellow conservative blind friends were angry and hurt. We
> tried to give both sides equal time and felt we'd been told that we
> didn't matter. To that end, I felt I had two options. The first was
> to quit being a conservative and jump ship over to the other side.
> The second option was to get more actively involved and to make our
> voices heard on all levels. Anyone who knows me knows that option one
> was not an option.
>
> To that end, I have created a mailing list called, Brush Fires. It is
> primarily for blind conservatives so that we may form a network of
> communication and information. Let me stress that everyone is welcome
> on this list, no matter what their political stripe may be. In the
> spirit of the Federation, I believe that healthy debate and
> discussion fosters a more vibrant society for all of its members.
>
> Right now, the list is announce only. If we get big enough, I plan to
> turn it into a discussion mailing list. For more information, please
> Email me at
> ryano218 at comcast.net
>
> Thank you for your time and attention.
>
>
> RyanO
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:28:52 -0700
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Not Just Your Average Cane
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> Catching up on piles of email, I saw this thread. I can already see
> Joe Orozco wearing a giant talking watch around his neck.
>
> In all seriousness (or at least some seriousness), aside from the
> specific legal status afforded to a cane that is specifically white
> in many jurisdictions, I see no reason why one couldn't have one or
> more canes that reflect your personality. In my case, I can picture
> one with a more ivory gloss finish, a leather grip, and polished
> steel cap with a satin finish. It would be exactly the sort of cane
> I would take to more upscale events and the like.
>
> That said, finding a good way to treat the chips and scratches my
> general every day working cane is subjected to would be a good start.
> I've seen a number of rigid NFB canes that have gotten so much use
> that the bottom foot or so are graphite black because the white
> coating has completely chipped away. Not exactly what I want when I
> want to look my best!
>
> And yes, the big talking watch for Joe to wear around his neck should
> have that [CENSORED] rooster alarm.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 08:33:56PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>>Hi Mark,
>>
>>Having started the thread, I feel compelled to respond to your thoughtful
>>post. It goes without say that people's opinions here do not reflect any
>>official NFB positions, and I honestly doubt the NFB would genuinely care
>>if
>>all its members suddenly decided to sport a wide range of colorfully
>>decorated canes. I think Dr. Maurer would probably find the concept
>>amusing, and doesn't Whozit sport a black cane in our logo? That fellow
>>was
>>far ahead of the curve.
>>
>>For my own part, I'm headed to Michael's sometime soon to embark upon a
>>project to transform my own cane into the walking wonder I know it can be.
>>I think that in doing so I would do well to use a measure of practical
>>sense. Security checkpoints at airports and federal buildings would
>>probably not look kindly on a cane that is different from what is
>>popularly
>>accepted. We can't expect the world to automatically get that blind
>>people
>>have their own sense of pizzazz, and by the same token, we can't expect
>>people to pick up on the fact we're blind at night if using something as
>>obscure as a black cane, even though I agree with the previous subscriber
>>that motorists should respect pedestrians with or without this new breed
>>of
>>eye candy.
>>
>>I'm glad people pointed out the jurisdictions that specifically call for
>>the
>>cane to be white. In asking my question, sarcasm notwithstanding, I was
>>not
>>really setting out to violate laws that are meant to preserve my safety,
>>but
>>I do not want these laws to tuck me away into a label that can be every
>>bit
>>as condescending as terms like "handicapped." If senior citizens can
>>sport
>>all manner of creatively designed walking canes, by golly, I want my own
>>mode of transportation to broadcast my own sense of humor. It's not as if
>>I
>>can smack a bumper sticker on my German shepherd's butt and call it good,
>>although, can you imagine the wide range of clever slogans one could
>>produce
>>with that kind of strategic angle?
>>
>>All of this having been said, I spent nearly a year working on behalf of
>>victims of human trafficking. I learned all about the negative
>>connotations
>>associated with words like "pimping," and for using that term to catch
>>your
>>attention, I am truly sorry.
>>
>>In summation, I think the responses on both lists to which the question
>>went
>>out has been mostly positive. It's no scientific survey, but I think it
>>is
>>at least slightly indicative of the membership's willingness to explore
>>the
>>idea or at least humor my nonsense. People who have given more
>>straight-laced responses are no doubt secretly glad they're not the only
>>ones who thought of this, because original this idea is most certainly
>>not.
>>Let's leave out the references to accessible currency and other
>>controversial topics out of it this time around. We debate those serious
>>issues all the time and should enjoy the all too infrequent light banter.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Joe Orozco and the Soon to Be Improved Sir Tap-A-Lot
>>
>>What, as if you haven't ever thought of giving your cane a name???
>>
>>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
>>Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:51 PM
>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pimp My Cane
>>
>>I'm following this thread, and I know a large percentage of the folks
>>here are NFB members; I personally a not, nor any organization, for
>>that matter. I find a bit of hypocrisy in this discussion: First the
>>NFB rails against things like audible cross walk signals and so on,
>>claiming that the blind don't need them, that it's not what the blind
>>"want," whatever. Same with identifiable currency. Now, however, I
>>hear a bunch of the same people saying, in effect, "I want to carry a
>>symbol of blindness! I want to proclaim my blindness to everyone so
>>that they can alter their behaviors appropriately in recognition of
>>the fact that I'm blind!" I should think the true spirit of the NFB
>>might be to use a black cane and give no indication whatsoever of
>>blindness, except on a purely voluntary basis. I just don't
>>understand this.
>>
>>Mark BurningHawk
>>Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
>>Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>Namaste!
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:34:01 -0500
> From: Candice Chapman <warren.mercy at hotmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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> Dear NABS members,
>
> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and
> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem
> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint,
> my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I
> can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to handle the
> situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps
> you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The Movement. The
> article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>
> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in
> which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a
> situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person,
> rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of
> negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of your
> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>
> Best,
> Candice Chapman
>
> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:56:53 -0400
> From: Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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> Hi Candice:
>
> This is very interesting.
>
> I definitely think it is true to pick your battles. I was flying back
> from Florida with my parents. In scrambling to find a flight, our
> seats were in separate rows.
> I did not mind this at all, as I like to be independent and after all
> my parents were still on the same plane so I did not mind at all.
> However, when we got on the plane and the flight attendant found out
> our seats were separate and I was blind, she insisted on rearranging
> the two seats so my mother and I could sit together.
> At first, I was going to protest but decided against it because after
> all it just meant my mother would be sitting together and apparently
> the person who was in the seat beside my mother willingly moved. I
> could have and maybe should have spoken up on the issue more but it
> seemed minor and nobody seemed to be bothered by it so I decided that
> battle wasn't one worth fighting.
>
> However, I do not agree with a person trying to take my cane no matter
> the situation. I would object to this and would not let it happen, but
> I would try as hard as I could to state my points and objections as
> politely as possible and try very hard not to cause a huge sceen.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Kerri
>
> On 4/19/10, Candice Chapman <warren.mercy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear NABS members,
>>
>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>> test.
>> I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and we
>> got
>> into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She insisted
>> upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem with
>> mine
>> since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the straight
>> cane
>> would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud, obnoxious verbal
>> confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and embarrassment on
>> my
>> part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint, my friend was
>> finally
>> mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I can't help but wonder
>> if
>> there was a more diplomatic way to handle the situation. It brings to
>> mind
>> an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The
>> Master, The Mission, The Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw
>> the
>> Nickel."
>>
>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>> delicately?
>> In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in which you
>> could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a situation
>> worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person, rather than
>> taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of negotiationg
>> NFB
>> philosophy? What might you suggest as potential alternatives to the above
>> confrontation? I would like to hear all of your thoughts on the
>> importance
>> of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>>
>> Best,
>> Candice Chapman
>>
>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:57:01 -0400
> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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> reply-type=original
>
> Candice: what a great thought provoking article and question.
> In my opinion, being confrontational isn't always productive. I've dealt
> with overly-helpful flight attendants' a few times who wanted to stow my
> cane somewhere else rather than let me put it along the window.
> Once I did allow my cane to be placed in a nearby closet and had no
> problem
> having it returned if I needed to use it, but I generally try to calmly
> explain that my cane will not be a bother to the other passengers and the
> importance of having it close by.
> I look forward to reading other responses.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice Chapman" <warren.mercy at hotmail.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:34 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>
>
>
> Dear NABS members,
>
> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
> test.
> I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and we got
> into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She insisted
> upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem with mine
> since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the straight
> cane
> would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud, obnoxious verbal
> confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and embarrassment on my
> part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint, my friend was
> finally
> mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I can't help but wonder if
> there was a more diplomatic way to handle the situation. It brings to mind
> an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The
> Master, The Mission, The Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw the
> Nickel."
>
> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
> delicately?
> In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in which you
> could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a situation
> worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person, rather than
> taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of negotiationg
> NFB
> philosophy? What might you suggest as potential alternatives to the above
> confrontation? I would like to hear all of your thoughts on the importance
> of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>
> Best,
> Candice Chapman
>
> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
> _________________________________________________________________
> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:32:04 -0500
> From: Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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>
> Good morning,
>
> I wasn't there, so I can't speak to how your friend handled the situation.
> The fact of the matter is though that allowing airline personel to take
> our mobility aids awe frm us is, A, illegal, and B, degrading. It also
> sets a bad precedent for blind people that may be traveling with them in
> the future. That said, it is of course better to use a calm professional
> tone when dealing with this kind of situation. There is a quiet way to
> insist that our rights as blind people be respected. Also explaining the
> why's of a certain ideal often help. This wasn't a situation where your
> friend should've just "let it go" for the sake of peace, but perhaps she
> could've handled it in a calmer way.
>
> The Throw the Nickel principal applies more to accepting help I think than
> having our rights ignored. In that situation, it was better to accept the
> kindness of a stranger than to make a fuss. This has to do with the
> airplane rights of a lot of people, and while we should always be calm and
> professional, but sometimes confrontation is required to bring about
> change.
>
> Just my 10 cents.
>
> BrileyOn Apr 19, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Candice Chapman wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear NABS members,
>>
>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and
>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem
>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time
>> constraint, my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane.
>> However I can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to
>> handle the situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth
>> Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The
>> Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>
>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations
>> in which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can
>> make a situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted
>> person, rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the
>> art of negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of your
>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind
>> people.
>>
>> Best,
>> Candice Chapman
>>
>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your
>> inbox.
>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3<Don't
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:53:43 -0600
> From: "Joseph C. Lininger" <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bulletin board software
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> There are several solutions available actually. What you should do
> precisely depends on your exact needs. If you could answer a couple
> questions I could probably recommend something.
>
> 1. Are you looking for a hosted solution or do you have control over the
> web server where your site is located?
>
> 2. What functions are you looking for precisely? Are you just looking
> for forums, or do you want a content management system that also happens
> to have forum functionality?
>
> 3. Do you have a particular platform said software needs to work with?
> Windows or Linux, Python or PHP, etc?
> - --
> Yes means no and no means yes. Delete all files [Y]?
> Joseph C. Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:32:34 -0700
> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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> Hello all,
> My feeling on the matter is that we can generally do better by
> handeling things in a less confrentational manner when possible.
> While this is easier said than done, I think it's worth taking a
> second (if possible depending on the situation) and try to look at
> what you need or would like to get out of the situation you are in.
> I find it difficult to balance the short-term solution and
> long-term results of that dicision made (example:if someone takes
> one's cane on an airplane or even in a differennt situation such as
> somebody insisting in helping you across the street).
> Sometimes i have to ask myself, when do I make a dicision for the
> good of other blind people, or for my own good? Should I take my
> long cane because it somehow better models my comfort in blindness
> to other people? or should I take a telescoping cane because it's
> easier to carry and it still conforms to what is an NFB cane? Or,
> do I use a folding cane because I'm feeling like it's less likely to
> get broken of someone steps on it while traveling? The question
> that I think is worth asking is- is there a "model positive image of
> blindness"? In much the same way that people tend to look for the
> ideal image of gender or ethnicity, is there such an Ideal for the
> blind?
> if so, is that what we all must conform to? or is there a such a
> thing as conformity in the blind community and in this case, the
> Federation community/family?
> Best,
> Darian
>
>
> On 4/20/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I wasn't there, so I can't speak to how your friend handled the
>> situation.
>> The fact of the matter is though that allowing airline personel to take
>> our
>> mobility aids awe frm us is, A, illegal, and B, degrading. It also sets a
>> bad precedent for blind people that may be traveling with them in the
>> future. That said, it is of course better to use a calm professional tone
>> when dealing with this kind of situation. There is a quiet way to insist
>> that our rights as blind people be respected. Also explaining the why's
>> of a
>> certain ideal often help. This wasn't a situation where your friend
>> should've just "let it go" for the sake of peace, but perhaps she
>> could've
>> handled it in a calmer way.
>>
>> The Throw the Nickel principal applies more to accepting help I think
>> than
>> having our rights ignored. In that situation, it was better to accept the
>> kindness of a stranger than to make a fuss. This has to do with the
>> airplane
>> rights of a lot of people, and while we should always be calm and
>> professional, but sometimes confrontation is required to bring about
>> change.
>>
>> Just my 10 cents.
>>
>> BrileyOn Apr 19, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Candice Chapman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>
>>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane
>>> and
>>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
>>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a
>>> problem
>>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
>>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
>>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time
>>> constraint,
>>> my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I
>>> can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to handle the
>>> situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps
>>> you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The Movement. The
>>> article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>>
>>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations
>>> in
>>> which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make
>>> a
>>> situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person,
>>> rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of
>>> negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of
>>> your
>>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind
>>> people.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Candice Chapman
>>>
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