[nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question

Serena serenacucco at verizon.net
Fri Apr 23 00:47:59 UTC 2010


When I said "crutch," I actually meant support cane.  Sorry.  You mentioned 
that you currently use one.

For your info, bfs and gfs often hold hands as part of their relationship, 
so, as long as people know you well enough to know you're dating, I think 
they'd assume you're holding on to him for that reason.

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jewel S." <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question


> My boyfriend does something very similar. When we are out and about,
> he steps up to the stairs, lowers his arm till my hand is touching the
> railing and waits. If I don't take the railing, then too bad, because
> we are on opposite sides of the railing. But I always take the
> railing, as I prefer it to someone leading me on stairs.
>
> As for the crutch, I used to use one. I found that it was very painful
> for my arm. The doctor re-adjusted the crutch to the right height for
> me, re-padded the crutch, did everything we could, but it still hurt
> my arm. I think it was becaus emy arm stayed in pretty much the same
> position as a walked, which is rough for me. My joints start cramping
> when that happens.
>
> ~Jewel
>
> On 4/22/10, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>> First, as to the taking people's arms cuz of balance issues and you're
>> worrying that they'll think it's cuz of your blindness, I have a similar
>> issue.  I have a good friend who's deaf-blind.  Since he can't speak to
>> verbally direct me, I hold on to his elbow.  (He uses his limited vision
>> quite well, so he can guide me safely.)  I'm sure some people think it's 
>> cuz
>> I'm blind, but we know it's not.  I always use my cane extra carefully 
>> and
>> am as independent as possible E.G. holding on to the railing when going 
>> up
>> and down stairs, instead of his simply guiding me.  If I just let him 
>> guide
>> me on the stairs, instead of holding the railing, he doesn't let me get 
>> away
>> with it! **smile**  (He puts my hand on the railing to remind me to hold 
>> it
>> and not simply let him guide me.)
>>
>> As far as your mobility issues in general, have you ever considered a
>> crutch?  I don't know a good technique to use it with your white cane, 
>> but
>> I'm sure there is one.
>>
>> Serena
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jewel S." <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>>
>>
>>>I have two cents to add to the thoughts about conforming and such...
>>>
>>> I often worry about taking help that is offered because I'm blind, but
>>> that I need because of another disability. For example, I don't need a
>>> sighted guide to keep up with a nurse at the doctor's office or follow
>>> a campus tour, but I often take the assistance of a friend to walk
>>> because of my balance problems. Walking on a friend's arm (or my
>>> boyfriend's, usually) allows me to keep my balance better, and if I
>>> *do* lose my balance, s/he can catch me. I make sure to still use my
>>> cane and make it obvious that he is *not* leading me, and sometimes we
>>> make a point for him to take my arm and me lead him (he has more
>>> vision) with the cane, because him holding my arm, while not as good
>>> as me holding his, still helps my balance, as he can catch me if I
>>> stumble, and I can lean on him as needed. But I do worry that people
>>> will see me getting assistance from my boyfriend or someone else (or
>>> accepting a stranger's arm if I'm alone) and think that I can't walk
>>> on my own because I'm blind and/or that all blind people need to be
>>> walked on the person's arm. I also hold a person's arm different than
>>> I would a sighted guide, with my hand around their elbow, because that
>>> is more sturdy, and I worry that peple will think that everyone does
>>> it that way, and not know how to do sighted guide right. I also do
>>> walking behind the person different, holding their arm more than I
>>> would a sighted guide, but it means that they are not doing their arm
>>> the right way for sighted guide, because I keep my cane out to look
>>> for obstacles.
>>>
>>> Another worry I have is that people will take my use of a folding cane
>>> as a sign that I am against straight canes. I'm not. I have a straight
>>> cane, in fact, that I use on the days when I know I will not have to
>>> worry about losing my balance. I *am* against telescopic canes,
>>> because they just suck, and always get stuck, but that's just personal
>>> preference. But I use a folding cane much of the time. The reason I do
>>> is that I use an aluminum folding cane. Aluminum is stronger than
>>> graphite or fibreglass, so if I am walking alone and lose my balance
>>> and fall forward on my white cane, my aluminum cane will not break
>>> under me and send me to the ground. However, I have had a fibreglass
>>> straight cane break under my weight when I stumbled and it sent me
>>> sprawling on my hands and knees. Luckily, all I got was scraps on my
>>> hands and kness and a big bone bruise on one knee, but I would not
>>> want to re-experience that, especially as a fibreglass shard could end
>>> up in my hand or leg. I plan on getting a guide dog within the year,
>>> but in the meantime, I use an aluminum folding cane or a strong
>>> graphite cane.
>>>
>>> The last concern I have is that because it is so hard for me to walk a
>>> lot or even stand for long, I take advantage of people's offers to get
>>> things for me, seat me first, and sit up close. I take advantage of
>>> these accommodations for my mobility issues, not for my blindness, but
>>> I worry that people will assume that because I need the assistance,
>>> all blind ppeople need it, because you know how they tend to assume
>>> that we're all alike *eyeroll*
>>>
>>> I know that my blindness is only a physical nuisance. It does not
>>> limit me anymore (it did when I first went blind, but I have learned
>>> much since then). But I have other limitations that keep me from doing
>>> things. As that disability is an invisible one and the blindness is
>>> obvious, people often assume that I am slow, clumsy, awkward, and need
>>> assistance because I am blind. I try to explain when I have the time,
>>> but I don't always have the time.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have suggestions on how I can show people that blindness
>>> is not limiting me and help them understand that blindness is not
>>> limiting if you have the training and tools, but that my other
>>> disability does limit me, but not necessarily others? I have done a
>>> few things, such as cooking homemade candies to bring to my support
>>> group for adult survivors of childhood abuse, to show them what I
>>> *can* do because  they were treating me like I would break. One guy
>>> asked who made them, and when I said I did, he said "But aren't you
>>> blind? How do you cook?" And I told him that "it's easy; I listen for
>>> the boiling and roll the candy in the sugar with my fingers. It
>>> doesn't take sight to cook. I cook without looking." And I think I
>>> gained a bit of respect from the group that way. But I stil l need
>>> someone's help to get to a chair (not to find it, but to walk there),
>>> and I still don't get up during break to get a snack because it hurts
>>> to walk a lot after sitting for awhile, so I ask a friend in the group
>>> to grab an extra snack for me.
>>>
>>> My two cents,
>>> Jewel
>>>
>>> On 4/20/10, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>   My feeling on the matter is that we can generally do better by
>>>> handeling things in a less confrentational manner when possible.
>>>> While  this is easier said than done,  I think it's worth taking  a
>>>> second (if possible depending on the situation)  and  try to  look at
>>>> what you need or  would like to get out of the situation you are in.
>>>>   I find it difficult to balance the  short-term solution and
>>>> long-term results of that  dicision made (example:if someone takes
>>>> one's cane on an airplane or  even in a differennt situation such as
>>>> somebody insisting  in helping  you across the street).
>>>>  Sometimes i have to ask myself, when do I make a dicision for the
>>>> good of other blind people, or for my  own good? Should I  take my
>>>> long cane  because  it somehow  better models  my comfort in blindness
>>>> to other people?    or should I take a telescoping cane because it's
>>>> easier to carry  and it  still conforms to  what is  an NFB cane?  Or,
>>>> do I use a folding cane because I'm feeling like it's  less likely  to
>>>> get broken of someone steps on it while  traveling?   The question
>>>> that I think is worth asking is- is there a "model positive image of
>>>> blindness"?  In much the same way that people tend to  look for the
>>>> ideal image of  gender or ethnicity, is there such an Ideal  for the
>>>> blind?
>>>>    if so, is that what we all  must conform to?   or is there a such a
>>>> thing as conformity in the blind community and in this case, the
>>>> Federation community/family?
>>>>   Best,
>>>>   Darian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/20/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't there, so I can't speak to how your friend handled the
>>>>> situation.
>>>>> The fact of the matter is though that allowing airline personel to 
>>>>> take
>>>>> our
>>>>> mobility aids awe frm us is, A, illegal, and B, degrading. It also 
>>>>> sets
>>>>> a
>>>>> bad precedent for blind people that may be traveling with them in the
>>>>> future. That said, it is of course better to use a calm professional
>>>>> tone
>>>>> when dealing with this kind of situation. There is a quiet way to 
>>>>> insist
>>>>> that our rights as blind people be respected. Also explaining the 
>>>>> why's
>>>>> of
>>>>> a
>>>>> certain ideal often help. This wasn't a situation where your friend
>>>>> should've just "let it go" for the sake of peace, but perhaps she
>>>>> could've
>>>>> handled it in a calmer way.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Throw the Nickel principal applies more to accepting help I think
>>>>> than
>>>>> having our rights ignored. In that situation, it was better to accept
>>>>> the
>>>>> kindness of a stranger than to make a fuss. This has to do with the
>>>>> airplane
>>>>> rights of a lot of people, and while we should always be calm and
>>>>> professional, but sometimes confrontation is required to bring about
>>>>> change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 10 cents.
>>>>>
>>>>> BrileyOn Apr 19, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Candice Chapman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. 
>>>>>> She
>>>>>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>>>>>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time
>>>>>> constraint,
>>>>>> my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to handle 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan,
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The Movement. The
>>>>>> article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>>>>>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many 
>>>>>> situations
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can 
>>>>>> make
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person,
>>>>>> rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>>>>>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Candice Chapman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
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