[nabs-l] nabs-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 31
Jennifer Applegate
jlastar at comcast.net
Fri Apr 30 18:51:18 UTC 2010
Can anyone who has received a nfb scholarship explain how the money is given
to the student? Is it given to the college for costs related to school or
to the student?
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> 1. Re: KNFB Reader (J.J. Meddaugh)
> 2. Re: KNFB Reader (Antonio M. Guimaraes)
> 3. KNFB Reader (Alexander Castillo)
> 4. Re: KNFB Reader (Hope Paulos)
> 5. Re: KNFB Reader (RJ Sandefur)
> 6. Re: KNFB Reader (Serena)
> 7. knfb reader (Jorge Paez)
> 8. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
> 9. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
> 10. Re: KNFB Reader (RJ Sandefur)
> 11. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
> 12. Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote family of
> Products (Kim Casey)
> 13. Re: knfb reader (J.J. Meddaugh)
> 14. Re: knfb reader (Valerie Gibson)
> 15. Re: KNFB Reader (Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:19:16 -0400
> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
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> Hope,
> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
> service is not required to use the reader.
>
> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
> Hope this helps.
>
> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does the
>> knfb reader cost?
>> Thanks so much!
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Jorge,
>>>
>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>> documents
>>> as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a Braille display.
>>> If
>>> you really want phone service with the phone, you could get a pre-paid
>>> plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However, many of the
>>> phone's features are quite usable without the phone capabilities
>>> themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my high school
>>> years
>>> would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on many levels.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Jedi
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that there
>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>> happens
>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out of
>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>> have
>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>
>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>> like,
>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>> against
>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing is,
>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything, but
>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>
>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile device?
>>>
>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the window
>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>
>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>> Jorge
>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:55:56 -0400
> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <293951E37A5A4CA8A15D26306E64B58A at userf9b4fa60eb>
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> Serena,
>
> The KNFB Phone is exactly that: a phone. Rehab is in the know where it
> comes
> to the technology, so to deny that the thing is a phone is not a good
> idea,
> and is deceptive.
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>
> Student, Western Governors University
> (617) 744-9716
> Eastern time zone
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> If your parents have the money, then go for it! One thing, you don't
>> have
>> to use the KNFB Reader Mobile as a cell phone. In fact, if you're going
>> to try to convince your Commission for the Blind to pay for it,
>> (something
>> I suggest), don't say that it can be used as a cell, or else, the
>> Commission might claim you don't really NEED it.
>>
>> Serena
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:55 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>> several
>>> things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas, depending
>>> on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that there are times,
>>> specially towards the start of the year, but it still happens that the
>>> Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out of certain
>>> books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we have to do
>>> the classwork for that day.
>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>
>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the like,
>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not against
>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing is,
>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything, but
>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>
>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile device?
>>>
>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the window
>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>
>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:18:56 -0400
> From: Alexander Castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hello Jorge, As mentioned previously, the KNFB reader is a great
> device and can come in very handy in those situations you've
> mentioned, the classroom setting for example, when you are in need of
> doing some on the spot scanning. I would suggest requesting one from a
> government agency before purchasing one out of pocket, as the cost
> will set you back.
>
> As for other situations, going out to restaurants on your own for
> example, one solution which seems to work most of the time is to look
> up the restaurant online and take a look at the electronic menu.
> Living in NYC also, I know that most places have a menu up on
> newyork.Menupages.org or citysearch. You can do this from home, if you
> know where you are going, or on the spot if you have an accessible
> phone with access to the internet.
>
> Also, we have a Student Division in NYC. It is geared toward High
> School seniors and above, but everyone is welcome to post.
>
> Sincerely,
> Alex
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:42:31 -0400
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <57DD734BF8E34A40A1C8C6BEFC517DF9 at Hope>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have mobile speak and
> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm going to have to
> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just the software,
> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from my current
> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
> Thanks for the help <smile>
> Hope and Beignet
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Hope,
>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>
>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does the
>>> knfb reader cost?
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jorge,
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a Braille
>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone, you could get
>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However,
>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my
>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on
>>>> many
>>>> levels.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Jedi
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>> there
>>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to
>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned
>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>
>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the
>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>> friends?
>>>>> With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say
>>>>> anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>
>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>> device?
>>>>
>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>> window
>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>
>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/loneblindjedi%40samobile.net
>>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:29:38 -0400
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <99941B845EF54E60A1FB2F97E54CE3AC at hometwxakonvzn>
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> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have mobile speak
>> and
>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm going to have to
>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just the software,
>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from my current
>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Hope,
>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>
>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does
>>>> the
>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a
>>>>> Braille
>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone, you could
>>>>> get
>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However,
>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my
>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on
>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to
>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned
>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the
>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nabs-l:
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>>>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:31:34 -0400
> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <6C6471DE1C224C328C07518F8B41A4D7 at Serene>
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> reply-type=response
>
> I didn't mean "deny" literally. I just meant don't emphasize that it's a
> cell phone and don't say that that's why you want it. I tried to get my
> rehab to buy it, but the tech guy there either didn't know much about it,
> wouldn't acknowledge its benefits, or just didn't wanna spend the money.
> Who knows ...
>
> Serena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Serena,
>>
>> The KNFB Phone is exactly that: a phone. Rehab is in the know where it
>> comes to the technology, so to deny that the thing is a phone is not a
>> good idea, and is deceptive.
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>
>> Student, Western Governors University
>> (617) 744-9716
>> Eastern time zone
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> If your parents have the money, then go for it! One thing, you don't
>>> have to use the KNFB Reader Mobile as a cell phone. In fact, if you're
>>> going to try to convince your Commission for the Blind to pay for it,
>>> (something I suggest), don't say that it can be used as a cell, or else,
>>> the Commission might claim you don't really NEED it.
>>>
>>> Serena
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:55 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that there
>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>> happens
>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out of
>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>> have
>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>
>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>> like,
>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>> against
>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing is,
>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything, but
>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>
>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile device?
>>>>
>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the window
>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>
>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jorge
>>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:36:51 -0400
> From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
> Message-ID: <BE42D600-76B4-42D5-AE35-767F6B2A544D at mac.com>
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>
> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>
>
> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd trust
> the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and I've had some
> bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even if they claim to
> be accessible.
>
>
> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a contract
> with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much for
> upgrading.
>
> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:48:33 -0400
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <3C61EB16EF6D47ADBEEF7B9DC0D86EE7 at Rufus>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun? Are
> we
> seriously even in the same book?
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
> mobile speak and
>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
> going to have to
>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
> the software,
>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
> my current
>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Hope,
>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
> remember phone
>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>
>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
> with the brands
>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
> much does the
>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
> using a Braille
>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
> you could get
>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
> maintain. However,
>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
> definitely think my
>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
> Reader on
>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
> different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
> but it still
>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
> telling us to
>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
> not scanned
>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
> needed, but the
>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
> friends would never
>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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> djedi%40samobile.net
>>>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:47:23 -0400
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
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> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun? Are
> we
> seriously even in the same book?
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
> mobile speak and
>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
> going to have to
>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
> the software,
>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
> my current
>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Hope,
>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
> remember phone
>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>
>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
> with the brands
>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
> much does the
>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
> using a Braille
>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
> you could get
>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
> maintain. However,
>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
> definitely think my
>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
> Reader on
>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
> different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
> but it still
>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
> telling us to
>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
> not scanned
>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
> needed, but the
>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
> friends would never
>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:26:47 -0400
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
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> So How do you skan a document with it? Are the words choppy?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun? Are
>> we
>> seriously even in the same book?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>> sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>> mobile speak and
>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>> going to have to
>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>> the software,
>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>> my current
>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hope,
>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>> remember phone
>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>
>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>> with the brands
>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>> much does the
>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>> using a Braille
>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>> you could get
>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>> maintain. However,
>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>> definitely think my
>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>> Reader on
>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>> different ideas,
>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>> but it still
>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>> telling us to
>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>> not scanned
>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>> needed, but the
>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>> friends would never
>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:12:12 -0400
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <875CD51788B940A69DB9F8564D0C6CF0 at Rufus>
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>
> The phone has a camera which you use to snap a picture of the document.
> If
> aimed correctly, the text should hopefully not be choppy, though the
> software is supposed to automatically orient the text so that it can scan
> and read correctly.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:27 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
> So How do you skan a document with it? Are the words choppy?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like
> a gun? Are
>> we
>> seriously even in the same book?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
> their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>> mobile speak and
>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>> going to have to
>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>> the software,
>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>> my current
>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hope,
>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>> remember phone
>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>
>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>> with the brands
>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>> much does the
>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>> using a Braille
>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>> you could get
>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>> maintain. However,
>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>> definitely think my
>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>> Reader on
>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>> different ideas,
>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>> but it still
>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>> telling us to
>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>> not scanned
>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>> needed, but the
>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>> friends would never
>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:56:59 -0500
> From: Kim Casey <kim at senderogroup.com> (by way of David Andrews
> <dandrews at visi.com>)
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote
> family of Products
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> Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote family of Products
>
> Davis, CA. April 29, 2010
>
> Version 2010 is Sendero's fourteenth version since our laptop GPS in
> 2000. It has been 14 years since we began working on the first
> prototypes. There are 24 improvements since version 6.
>
> Highlights of this 2010 version include:
>
> Sendero Maps software for virtual map exploration on a PC. Free with
> new purchases. Check out our "Triple Play" promotion, 3 products for
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>
> New updated 2010 maps and Points of Interest as well as a new Rich
> Map engine and a new SQLite database engine. This includes access to
> the dozens of transit company databases from the Google Transit
> Feed. There is over 13GB of new map and POI data compared with 11GB
> in the last release.
>
> Enjoy the new Favorites List and History List for easier POI access.
>
> Flexibility to choose the route type you want: Avoid toll roads, skip
> freeways during peak traffic hours, pick shortest route, the choice is
> yours.
>
> POI categories have been consolidated and now have the option to add
> tags for environmental information.
>
> To see all 24 changes from v6 to v2010, visit
> http://senderogroup.com/products/GPS/v2010changes.htm
>
> For those of you who already have an upgrade on a BrailleNote or
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:48:31 -0400
> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] knfb reader
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>
> George,
> There is only one reader program, which is the software which runs on the
> Nokia cell phones. Even if you don't choose to have cell phone service,
> the
> reader software and phone are still the same, and the costs are also the
> same.
> There was a KNFB Reader Classic which was popular 3-4 years ago, but it is
> no longer in production. It was slower and bulkier, anyway.
> I hope this helps.
>
> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:36 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>
>
>> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>>
>>
>> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd
>> trust
>> the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and I've had
>> some
>> bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even if they claim to
>> be accessible.
>>
>>
>> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a contract
>> with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much for
>> upgrading.
>>
>> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>>
>> Jorge
>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:03:25 -0500
> From: Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] knfb reader
> Message-ID: <0344EBFB-C25E-4D83-8143-19AF3265776A at gmail.com>
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> so i take it the ONLY reader you can get with portability is the knfb
> reader for mobile, which is about the price as a kurzweil program. think
> i'd just wait for the Iphone ap.
>
>
> am i wrong on that first part?On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:48 AM, J.J. Meddaugh
> wrote:
>
>> George,
>> There is only one reader program, which is the software which runs on the
>> Nokia cell phones. Even if you don't choose to have cell phone service,
>> the reader software and phone are still the same, and the costs are also
>> the same.
>> There was a KNFB Reader Classic which was popular 3-4 years ago, but it
>> is no longer in production. It was slower and bulkier, anyway.
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:36 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>
>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd
>>> trust the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and I've
>>> had some bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even if
>>> they claim to be accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a
>>> contract with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much
>>> for upgrading.
>>>
>>> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:00:30 -0400
> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." <freethaught at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
> Message-ID: <141866F72702479C90F51BDFC357CAE7 at userf9b4fa60eb>
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>
> The phones supported by the KNFB Reader are described on the Mike Hingson
> group web page as follows:
>
> http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com/phone-info/phone_info.php
>
> NEW SUPPORTED PHONES
>
> The phones now supported with the initial release of version 6.3 are the
> Nokia E71 (best used with the kReader Mobile), N79, N82, N85, N86, N95 8
> GB,
> N95
> North American model, and the Nokia 6220 Classic. Please note that changes
> in phone models and availability must be expected. However, phones which
> become
> unavailable from suppliers will continue to be supported for use with the
> Mobile Reader software as changes are made to support newer phones and
> models
> as they become available. This applies at present to the N82 and the 6220
> Classic.
>
> This page includes important information about each supported phone as
> well
> as links to obtain detailed specifications. Please check back periodically
> to
> keep up to date as more phones are added to the list. Checking with
> various
> suppliers for availability and price is recommended.
>
> The price of the reader will depend on the phone you buy with it, and
> whether you already own a version of talks.
>
> Prices are listed at
>
>
> http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com/purchase/price-list.php
>
> The reader is $1595 with an N82 phone, and $1770 with the much faster
> processing from an N86 phone.
>
> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>
> Student, Western Governors University
> (617) 744-9716
> Eastern time zone
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>
>
>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does the
>> knfb reader cost?
>> Thanks so much!
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>
>>
>>> Jorge,
>>>
>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>> documents
>>> as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a Braille display.
>>> If
>>> you really want phone service with the phone, you could get a pre-paid
>>> plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However, many of the
>>> phone's features are quite usable without the phone capabilities
>>> themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my high school
>>> years
>>> would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on many levels.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Jedi
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that there
>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>> happens
>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out of
>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>> have
>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>
>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>> like,
>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>> against
>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing is,
>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything, but
>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>
>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile device?
>>>
>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the window
>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>
>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>> Jorge
>>>
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