[nabs-l] nabs-l Digest, Vol 42, Issue 31
RJ Sandefur
joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Fri Apr 30 23:36:41 UTC 2010
Wow, didn't know that
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> Scholarships are given to you directly at national convention
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>> Can anyone who has received a nfb scholarship explain how the money is
>> given to the student? Is it given to the college for costs related to
>> school or to the student?
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>>> 1. Re: KNFB Reader (J.J. Meddaugh)
>>> 2. Re: KNFB Reader (Antonio M. Guimaraes)
>>> 3. KNFB Reader (Alexander Castillo)
>>> 4. Re: KNFB Reader (Hope Paulos)
>>> 5. Re: KNFB Reader (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 6. Re: KNFB Reader (Serena)
>>> 7. knfb reader (Jorge Paez)
>>> 8. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
>>> 9. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
>>> 10. Re: KNFB Reader (RJ Sandefur)
>>> 11. Re: KNFB Reader (Joe Orozco)
>>> 12. Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote family of
>>> Products (Kim Casey)
>>> 13. Re: knfb reader (J.J. Meddaugh)
>>> 14. Re: knfb reader (Valerie Gibson)
>>> 15. Re: KNFB Reader (Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.)
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:19:16 -0400
>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <34CD88D2A72D4D2DA9BB720BC6595B7F at jage>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Hope,
>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>
>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does
>>>> the
>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>> documents
>>>>> as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a Braille display.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you really want phone service with the phone, you could get a pre-paid
>>>>> plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However, many of the
>>>>> phone's features are quite usable without the phone capabilities
>>>>> themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my high school
>>>>> years
>>>>> would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on many levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like,
>>>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window
>>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:55:56 -0400
>>> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <293951E37A5A4CA8A15D26306E64B58A at userf9b4fa60eb>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Serena,
>>>
>>> The KNFB Phone is exactly that: a phone. Rehab is in the know where it
>>> comes
>>> to the technology, so to deny that the thing is a phone is not a good
>>> idea,
>>> and is deceptive.
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> Student, Western Governors University
>>> (617) 744-9716
>>> Eastern time zone
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> If your parents have the money, then go for it! One thing, you don't
>>>> have
>>>> to use the KNFB Reader Mobile as a cell phone. In fact, if you're
>>>> going
>>>> to try to convince your Commission for the Blind to pay for it,
>>>> (something
>>>> I suggest), don't say that it can be used as a cell, or else, the
>>>> Commission might claim you don't really NEED it.
>>>>
>>>> Serena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>> several
>>>>> things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>> depending
>>>>> on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that there are
>>>>> times,
>>>>> specially towards the start of the year, but it still happens that the
>>>>> Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out of certain
>>>>> books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we have to do
>>>>> the classwork for that day.
>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>> like,
>>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>>> against
>>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing is,
>>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything,
>>>>> but
>>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>> window
>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:18:56 -0400
>>> From: Alexander Castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com>
>>> To: nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <u2ge7c236691004291318t588e79baoee7d0b95ee66654a at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Hello Jorge, As mentioned previously, the KNFB reader is a great
>>> device and can come in very handy in those situations you've
>>> mentioned, the classroom setting for example, when you are in need of
>>> doing some on the spot scanning. I would suggest requesting one from a
>>> government agency before purchasing one out of pocket, as the cost
>>> will set you back.
>>>
>>> As for other situations, going out to restaurants on your own for
>>> example, one solution which seems to work most of the time is to look
>>> up the restaurant online and take a look at the electronic menu.
>>> Living in NYC also, I know that most places have a menu up on
>>> newyork.Menupages.org or citysearch. You can do this from home, if you
>>> know where you are going, or on the spot if you have an accessible
>>> phone with access to the internet.
>>>
>>> Also, we have a Student Division in NYC. It is geared toward High
>>> School seniors and above, but everyone is welcome to post.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:42:31 -0400
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <57DD734BF8E34A40A1C8C6BEFC517DF9 at Hope>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have mobile speak
>>> and
>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm going to have
>>> to
>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just the
>>> software,
>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from my current
>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hope,
>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>
>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the
>>>>> brands
>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does
>>>>> the
>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a
>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone, you could
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However,
>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my
>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different
>>>>>>> ideas,
>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to
>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned
>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the
>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>> friends?
>>>>>>> With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say
>>>>>>> anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
>>>>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:29:38 -0400
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <99941B845EF54E60A1FB2F97E54CE3AC at hometwxakonvzn>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have mobile speak
>>>> and
>>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm going to have
>>>> to
>>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just the
>>>> software,
>>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from my current
>>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hope,
>>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though remember phone
>>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the
>>>>>> brands
>>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a
>>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone, you could
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain.
>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my
>>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on
>>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different
>>>>>>>> ideas,
>>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to
>>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned
>>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:31:34 -0400
>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <6C6471DE1C224C328C07518F8B41A4D7 at Serene>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>>>
>>> I didn't mean "deny" literally. I just meant don't emphasize that it's
>>> a
>>> cell phone and don't say that that's why you want it. I tried to get my
>>> rehab to buy it, but the tech guy there either didn't know much about
>>> it,
>>> wouldn't acknowledge its benefits, or just didn't wanna spend the money.
>>> Who knows ...
>>>
>>> Serena
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Serena,
>>>>
>>>> The KNFB Phone is exactly that: a phone. Rehab is in the know where it
>>>> comes to the technology, so to deny that the thing is a phone is not a
>>>> good idea, and is deceptive.
>>>>
>>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>>
>>>> Student, Western Governors University
>>>> (617) 744-9716
>>>> Eastern time zone
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If your parents have the money, then go for it! One thing, you don't
>>>>> have to use the KNFB Reader Mobile as a cell phone. In fact, if
>>>>> you're
>>>>> going to try to convince your Commission for the Blind to pay for it,
>>>>> (something I suggest), don't say that it can be used as a cell, or
>>>>> else,
>>>>> the Commission might claim you don't really NEED it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serena
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like,
>>>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window
>>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:36:51 -0400
>>> From: Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>> Message-ID: <BE42D600-76B4-42D5-AE35-767F6B2A544D at mac.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd
>>> trust the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and I've
>>> had some bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even if
>>> they claim to be accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a
>>> contract with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much
>>> for upgrading.
>>>
>>> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:48:33 -0400
>>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <3C61EB16EF6D47ADBEEF7B9DC0D86EE7 at Rufus>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun? Are
>>> we
>>> seriously even in the same book?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>> sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>>> mobile speak and
>>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>>> going to have to
>>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>>> the software,
>>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>>> my current
>>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hope,
>>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>>> remember phone
>>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>>> with the brands
>>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>>> much does the
>>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>>> using a Braille
>>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>>> you could get
>>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>>> maintain. However,
>>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>>> definitely think my
>>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>>> Reader on
>>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>>> different ideas,
>>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>>> but it still
>>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>>> telling us to
>>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>>> not scanned
>>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>>> needed, but the
>>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>>> friends would never
>>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:47:23 -0400
>>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <D3997A07EC2344DB818952C1F87A4052 at Rufus>
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>>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun? Are
>>> we
>>> seriously even in the same book?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>> sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>>> mobile speak and
>>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>>> going to have to
>>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>>> the software,
>>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>>> my current
>>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hope,
>>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>>> remember phone
>>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>>> with the brands
>>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>>> much does the
>>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>>> using a Braille
>>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>>> you could get
>>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>>> maintain. However,
>>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>>> definitely think my
>>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>>> Reader on
>>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>>> different ideas,
>>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>>> but it still
>>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>>> telling us to
>>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>>> not scanned
>>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>>> needed, but the
>>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>>> friends would never
>>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>
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>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:26:47 -0400
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
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>>> So How do you skan a document with it? Are the words choppy?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like a gun?
>>>> Are
>>>> we
>>>> seriously even in the same book?
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>>> sleeves,
>>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>>>> mobile speak and
>>>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>>>> going to have to
>>>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>>>> the software,
>>>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>>>> my current
>>>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope,
>>>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>>>> remember phone
>>>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>>>> with the brands
>>>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>>>> much does the
>>>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>>>> using a Braille
>>>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>>>> you could get
>>>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>>>> maintain. However,
>>>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>>>> definitely think my
>>>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>>>> Reader on
>>>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>>>> different ideas,
>>>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>>>> but it still
>>>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>>>> telling us to
>>>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>>>> not scanned
>>>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>>>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>>>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>>>> needed, but the
>>>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>>>> friends would never
>>>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>>
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>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:12:12 -0400
>>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>> Message-ID: <875CD51788B940A69DB9F8564D0C6CF0 at Rufus>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> The phone has a camera which you use to snap a picture of the document.
>>> If
>>> aimed correctly, the text should hopefully not be choppy, though the
>>> software is supposed to automatically orient the text so that it can
>>> scan
>>> and read correctly.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>> sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:27 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>> So How do you skan a document with it? Are the words choppy?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Man, what part of it's a phone makes you think it looks like
>>> a gun? Are
>>>> we
>>>> seriously even in the same book?
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up
>>> their sleeves,
>>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>> What does a KNFB reader look like? Does it look like a gun?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks J.J. I'm going to have to do some research. I have
>>>> mobile speak and
>>>>> an AT&T phone (which I have to upgrade anyway)... So I'm
>>>> going to have to
>>>>> get the price for just the phone and software. Or else just
>>>> the software,
>>>>> because I'm not sure if it costs me anything to upgrade from
>>>> my current
>>>>> phone to one compatible with KNFB Reader.
>>>>> Thanks for the help <smile>
>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope,
>>>>>> The reader is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, though
>>>> remember phone
>>>>>> service is not required to use the reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current cost is roughly $1,770 which includes the screen reader.
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work
>>>> with the brands
>>>>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how
>>>> much does the
>>>>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>>>>> documents as text in the phone and read them in Braille
>>>> using a Braille
>>>>>>>> display. If you really want phone service with the phone,
>>>> you could get
>>>>>>>> a pre-paid plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to
>>>> maintain. However,
>>>>>>>> many of the phone's features are quite usable without the phone
>>>>>>>> capabilities themselves. Does that make sense? I
>>>> definitely think my
>>>>>>>> high school years would have been much easier with a KNFB
>>>> Reader on
>>>>>>>> many levels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have
>>>> different ideas,
>>>>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>>>>> there are times, specially towards the start of the year,
>>>> but it still
>>>>>>>>> happens that the Science or Social Studies teacher is
>>>> telling us to
>>>>>>>>> read out of certain books and we don't have them or its
>>>> not scanned
>>>>>>>>> yet, but we have to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go
>>>> places--restaurants and the
>>>>>>>>> like, the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me
>>>> wrong, I'm not
>>>>>>>>> against having things read to me when its absolutely
>>>> needed, but the
>>>>>>>>> thing is, I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with
>>>>>>>>> friends? With my parents its fine, and I'm sure my
>>>> friends would never
>>>>>>>>> say anything, but if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>>>>> device?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>>>>> window cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:56:59 -0500
>>> From: Kim Casey <kim at senderogroup.com> (by way of David Andrews
>>> <dandrews at visi.com>)
>>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote
>>> family of Products
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000151382201 at mailfront1.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Announcing Sendero GPS 2010 for the BrailleNote family of Products
>>>
>>> Davis, CA. April 29, 2010
>>>
>>> Version 2010 is Sendero's fourteenth version since our laptop GPS in
>>> 2000. It has been 14 years since we began working on the first
>>> prototypes. There are 24 improvements since version 6.
>>>
>>> Highlights of this 2010 version include:
>>>
>>> Sendero Maps software for virtual map exploration on a PC. Free with
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>>>
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>>> Map engine and a new SQLite database engine. This includes access to
>>> the dozens of transit company databases from the Google Transit
>>> Feed. There is over 13GB of new map and POI data compared with 11GB
>>> in the last release.
>>>
>>> Enjoy the new Favorites List and History List for easier POI access.
>>>
>>> Flexibility to choose the route type you want: Avoid toll roads, skip
>>> freeways during peak traffic hours, pick shortest route, the choice is
>>> yours.
>>>
>>> POI categories have been consolidated and now have the option to add
>>> tags for environmental information.
>>>
>>> To see all 24 changes from v6 to v2010, visit
>>> http://senderogroup.com/products/GPS/v2010changes.htm
>>>
>>> For those of you who already have an upgrade on a BrailleNote or
>>> VoiceNote and GPS, your upgrade is eagerly awaiting you at
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>>> V2010 online manuals, http://www.senderogroup.com/support/supportgps.htm
>>>
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>>> the Trial Version,
>>> http://senderogroup.com/products/GPS/testdrive.asp, for your
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>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:48:31 -0400
>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>> Message-ID: <3FA178C6CA5440F4B98E93F99BD3F073 at jage>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> George,
>>> There is only one reader program, which is the software which runs on
>>> the
>>> Nokia cell phones. Even if you don't choose to have cell phone service,
>>> the
>>> reader software and phone are still the same, and the costs are also the
>>> same.
>>> There was a KNFB Reader Classic which was popular 3-4 years ago, but it
>>> is
>>> no longer in production. It was slower and bulkier, anyway.
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:36 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd
>>>> trust
>>>> the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and I've had
>>>> some
>>>> bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even if they claim
>>>> to
>>>> be accessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a
>>>> contract
>>>> with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much for
>>>> upgrading.
>>>>
>>>> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>>>>
>>>> Jorge
>>>>
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>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:03:25 -0500
>>> From: Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>> Message-ID: <0344EBFB-C25E-4D83-8143-19AF3265776A at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> so i take it the ONLY reader you can get with portability is the knfb
>>> reader for mobile, which is about the price as a kurzweil program.
>>> think i'd just wait for the Iphone ap.
>>>
>>>
>>> am i wrong on that first part?On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:48 AM, J.J. Meddaugh
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George,
>>>> There is only one reader program, which is the software which runs on
>>>> the Nokia cell phones. Even if you don't choose to have cell phone
>>>> service, the reader software and phone are still the same, and the
>>>> costs are also the same.
>>>> There was a KNFB Reader Classic which was popular 3-4 years ago, but it
>>>> is no longer in production. It was slower and bulkier, anyway.
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
>>>> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:36 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] knfb reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Valerie: yes they do have apps, but their free and to be honest, I'd
>>>>> trust the KNFB more, because its made specially for the blind, and
>>>>> I've had some bad experiences re: accessibility with iPhone apps--even
>>>>> if they claim to be accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> J.J.: I'm looking at the stand-alone device, as I'm already in a
>>>>> contract with my cellular carrier and they're gonna charge me too much
>>>>> for upgrading.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the price of a KNFB reader if its the stand alone unit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
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>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:00:30 -0400
>>> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." <freethaught at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
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>>> The phones supported by the KNFB Reader are described on the Mike
>>> Hingson
>>> group web page as follows:
>>>
>>> http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com/phone-info/phone_info.php
>>>
>>> NEW SUPPORTED PHONES
>>>
>>> The phones now supported with the initial release of version 6.3 are the
>>> Nokia E71 (best used with the kReader Mobile), N79, N82, N85, N86, N95 8
>>> GB,
>>> N95
>>> North American model, and the Nokia 6220 Classic. Please note that
>>> changes
>>> in phone models and availability must be expected. However, phones which
>>> become
>>> unavailable from suppliers will continue to be supported for use with
>>> the
>>> Mobile Reader software as changes are made to support newer phones and
>>> models
>>> as they become available. This applies at present to the N82 and the
>>> 6220
>>> Classic.
>>>
>>> This page includes important information about each supported phone as
>>> well
>>> as links to obtain detailed specifications. Please check back
>>> periodically
>>> to
>>> keep up to date as more phones are added to the list. Checking with
>>> various
>>> suppliers for availability and price is recommended.
>>>
>>> The price of the reader will depend on the phone you buy with it, and
>>> whether you already own a version of talks.
>>>
>>> Prices are listed at
>>>
>>>
>>> http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com/purchase/price-list.php
>>>
>>> The reader is $1595 with an N82 phone, and $1770 with the much faster
>>> processing from an N86 phone.
>>>
>>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.
>>>
>>> Student, Western Governors University
>>> (617) 744-9716
>>> Eastern time zone
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can someone tell me which phone service does *not* work with the brands
>>>> that run the knfb reader software? Also, approximately how much does
>>>> the
>>>> knfb reader cost?
>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>> Hope and Beignet
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] KNFB Reader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jorge,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend the KNFB Reader especially since you can save
>>>>> documents
>>>>> as text in the phone and read them in Braille using a Braille display.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you really want phone service with the phone, you could get a pre-paid
>>>>> plan so it wouldn't be too expensive to maintain. However, many of the
>>>>> phone's features are quite usable without the phone capabilities
>>>>> themselves. Does that make sense? I definitely think my high school
>>>>> years
>>>>> would have been much easier with a KNFB Reader on many levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> I'm now starting highschool this fall in NYC, and I'm considering
>>>>>> several things to get to be ready for school. I have different ideas,
>>>>>> depending on what I noticed, but one of things I realized is that
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are times, specially towards the start of the year, but it still
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> that the Science or Social Studies teacher is telling us to read out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> certain books and we don't have them or its not scanned yet, but we
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do the classwork for that day.
>>>>>> Do you think the KNFB READER would be a good idea to get?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing too is that when we go places--restaurants and the
>>>>>> like,
>>>>>> the menus have to be read to me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not
>>>>>> against
>>>>>> having things read to me when its absolutely needed, but the thing
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> I'm always thinking - what if I'm by myself? Or with friends? With my
>>>>>> parents its fine, and I'm sure my friends would never say anything,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> if I can do this by myself why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you guys think? Is it worth saving up for a KNFB mobile
>>>>>> device?
>>>>>
>>>>>> (getting the cell version is would force our family plan out the
>>>>>> window
>>>>>> cause we'd have to switch companies)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
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