[nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs

[Jedi]

Absolutely not. Any tool is useful. What one wants to avoid is dependence.

Respectfully,
Jedi


Original message:
> Depending exclusively on a sighted guide is of course not wise. Having 
> no other mobility aid available is  foolish. However, using sighted 
> guide in addition to another mobility aid is useful at times such as in 
> loud and crowded environments such as night clubs. I'm not saying hang 
> on to your friends all night, (that is obviously awkward and defeats 
> the purpose of going tout to have fun), but it still can be helpful. 
> Even when I'm with blind friends, often someone might hold my arm while 
> using their cane just to insure we stay together in crowded 
> environments. My point is it shouldn't be disregarded as a viable tool 
> in addition to others.

> BrileyOn Jan 3, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Jedi wrote:

>> And that's why one should avoid depending  on a sighted guide if at all 
>> possible so that their decisions don't have to affect yours.

>> Respectfully,
>> Jedi


>> Original message:
>>> hmm no i wouldnt take my guide dog since music would be loud and there would
>>> just be too  much activity but i never really take a cane either. I think
>>> the first time i went to a bar since my vision loss or a  club yes i had my
>>> cell and my cane but after the first time i left it and went with friends
>>> sighted guide.

>>> here is another question alittle off topic. What if you went sighted guide
>>> and your guide ended up drinking. do you drink too? what if you wanted to
>>> drink, would you do it in a nightblub or bar or even alittle further in
>>> public?

>>>            -Teal
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brice Smith" <brice.smith319 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs


>>>> I know this is slightly off topic from the original question and
>>>> others might have different opinions on this, but a club or bar is the
>>>> last environment I'd feel comfortable losing any type of independence
>>>> whatsoever. What happens if you find yourself separated from your
>>>> friends? As a guy I never go out at night without my cane, cell phone,
>>>> and some extra cash ... and for good reason women usually worry over
>>>> this more than guys do. Buy an identification cane or one of the new
>>>> ambutech telescoping canes if you need something light -- anything to
>>>> keep yourself feeling and looking independent if something unexpected
>>>> happens.

>>>> To add to the original question, ditch the notetaker or anything extra
>>>> that unnecessarily weighs you down. Except for my cane, I never carry
>>>> anything that can't fit into my pocket. Doing otherwise is asking for
>>>> trouble.

>>>> Brice
>>>> On 1/1/10, Adrianne Dempsey <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think taking a note taker to the club is a bad idea.  I don't even
>>>>> bring
>>>>> my purse because it is just something to carry around.  You don't want to
>>>>> set it down somewhere, and you would just look silly dancing with it.  In
>>>>> fact I don't even bring my cane because I don't know what to do with it
>>>>> on
>>>>> the dance floor.  I usually go with a friend and just go sighted guide.
>>>>> I
>>>>> hate loosing a bit of independence but what ells can you do.  If I go
>>>>> with
>>>>> other blind friends then I usually bring my cane but I always feel silly
>>>>> with it at the club.  As far as phone numbers...  I think having someone
>>>>> ells program it in to your phone is fine if you can not do it yourself.
>>>>> But
>>>>> my phone is not very accessible and I can do it.  I just  hit o.k. and it
>>>>> brings up a menu the first thing on the menu is add contact.  I hit O.K.
>>>>> again, and then you can type in the number then down arrow and type in
>>>>> the
>>>>> name. Then hit o.k. again and their it is.  Another option is to have a
>>>>> bizness card with your info, so you can give the new person your number.
>>>>> This is probably not so necessary as pretty much every one has cell
>>>>> phones
>>>>> now but it is a thought.  The slate and stylist is a good idea to if you
>>>>> can
>>>>> get a hold of one of those ninny slates.  But you have to be careful with
>>>>> this option, because you could get stabbed with the stylist if you move
>>>>> funny or if your pants are tight.


>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs


>>>>>> Hmmmmm. Interesting subject.  I would've taken the notetaker just
>>>>>> because I'm pretty touchy feely about my information.  The numbers are
>>>>>> not programmable by a blind person in my cell phone, so a note taker
>>>>>> is a good option.
>>>>>> Beth

>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Kevin Wassmer <commanderlumpy2003 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello folks. It's been a long time sense I have bought up a discussion
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> here. First of all, I will say I am doing fine. I have a job at Verizon
>>>>>>> Wireless working at a call center. It is challenging. How it is
>>>>>>> rewarding. I
>>>>>>> am glad to finely get off of social security soon. Or as I call it
>>>>>>> socialist
>>>>>>> insecurity. But that's another story.

>>>>>>>                I want to bring up a topic. I use to go to night clubs
>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>> in the day. I did not want to bring my Braille Note with me because the
>>>>>>> thought back then of bringing my note taker sounded strange. But I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> always have a problem if I met someone and wanted to get their number.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> was because the music was so loud that it was hard to communicate. I
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have people program numbers in to my cell phone at nosy places like
>>>>>>> that.

>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> question to you all is this. Being blind, would you have taken your
>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>> taker to the night club? The more I think about it, the more I believe
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Slate and Styles would have been a great option for some like the night
>>>>>>> club
>>>>>>> sidereal. What would you have done?
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