[nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
V Nork
ginisd at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jan 6 19:15:44 UTC 2010
thanks adrienne, and all who responded, I feel my opinion shifting and
reshifting in response to all the collective experience members of the list
have shared. In a perfect world, women could travel alone with no fear.
But as for now, we all have to weigh risks and benefits. Thanks, Ginny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrianne Dempsey" <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>I as a woman feel comfortable going allot of places on my own because I
>know how to defend myself. However going to a club or bar alone is not
>vary fun in my opinion. Many people do enjoy going to such places alone in
>the hopes that they will meet someone, but as a female even if you go with
>friends you will still have the opportunity to meet people. This is just
>my opinion their are many different views. Men at clubs are like vultures,
>and if you have interest in one of them your friends will back off a bit
>but still watch your back, and if you have no interest in them, your
>friends will help you maneuver away from the creep. You can do it politely
>or roodly depending on the aggressiveness of the guy. So while I could go
>to a club with out a friend I would never want to. It for me would lose
>some fun and that little safety net. You just have to decide what you
>want.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "V Nork" <ginisd at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>
>
>> Hello list, As I read this great thread, I wonder, as a woman, what the
>> thinking is about going out to clubs and bars alone, with just a cane and
>> cell phone? I have never tried this, but I would like to venture out
>> alone, maybe you could share your experiences and ideas? Most of my
>> friends I do hang out with are not into clubs, so this would be a solo
>> outing for me. Thanks , Ginny
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Briley Pollard" <brileyp at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>
>>
>>> Depending exclusively on a sighted guide is of course not wise. Having
>>> no other mobility aid available is foolish. However, using sighted
>>> guide in addition to another mobility aid is useful at times such as in
>>> loud and crowded environments such as night clubs. I'm not saying hang
>>> on to your friends all night, (that is obviously awkward and defeats the
>>> purpose of going tout to have fun), but it still can be helpful. Even
>>> when I'm with blind friends, often someone might hold my arm while using
>>> their cane just to insure we stay together in crowded environments. My
>>> point is it shouldn't be disregarded as a viable tool in addition to
>>> others.
>>>
>>> BrileyOn Jan 3, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Jedi wrote:
>>>
>>>> And that's why one should avoid depending on a sighted guide if at all
>>>> possible so that their decisions don't have to affect yours.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Jedi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> hmm no i wouldnt take my guide dog since music would be loud and there
>>>>> would
>>>>> just be too much activity but i never really take a cane either. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> the first time i went to a bar since my vision loss or a club yes i
>>>>> had my
>>>>> cell and my cane but after the first time i left it and went with
>>>>> friends
>>>>> sighted guide.
>>>>
>>>>> here is another question alittle off topic. What if you went sighted
>>>>> guide
>>>>> and your guide ended up drinking. do you drink too? what if you wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> drink, would you do it in a nightblub or bar or even alittle further
>>>>> in
>>>>> public?
>>>>
>>>>> -Teal
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brice Smith" <brice.smith319 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I know this is slightly off topic from the original question and
>>>>>> others might have different opinions on this, but a club or bar is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last environment I'd feel comfortable losing any type of independence
>>>>>> whatsoever. What happens if you find yourself separated from your
>>>>>> friends? As a guy I never go out at night without my cane, cell
>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>> and some extra cash ... and for good reason women usually worry over
>>>>>> this more than guys do. Buy an identification cane or one of the new
>>>>>> ambutech telescoping canes if you need something light -- anything to
>>>>>> keep yourself feeling and looking independent if something unexpected
>>>>>> happens.
>>>>
>>>>>> To add to the original question, ditch the notetaker or anything
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>> that unnecessarily weighs you down. Except for my cane, I never carry
>>>>>> anything that can't fit into my pocket. Doing otherwise is asking for
>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>
>>>>>> Brice
>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Adrianne Dempsey <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I think taking a note taker to the club is a bad idea. I don't even
>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>> my purse because it is just something to carry around. You don't
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> set it down somewhere, and you would just look silly dancing with
>>>>>>> it. In
>>>>>>> fact I don't even bring my cane because I don't know what to do with
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the dance floor. I usually go with a friend and just go sighted
>>>>>>> guide.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> hate loosing a bit of independence but what ells can you do. If I
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> other blind friends then I usually bring my cane but I always feel
>>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>> with it at the club. As far as phone numbers... I think having
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> ells program it in to your phone is fine if you can not do it
>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> my phone is not very accessible and I can do it. I just hit o.k.
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> brings up a menu the first thing on the menu is add contact. I hit
>>>>>>> O.K.
>>>>>>> again, and then you can type in the number then down arrow and type
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> name. Then hit o.k. again and their it is. Another option is to
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> bizness card with your info, so you can give the new person your
>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>> This is probably not so necessary as pretty much every one has cell
>>>>>>> phones
>>>>>>> now but it is a thought. The slate and stylist is a good idea to if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> get a hold of one of those ninny slates. But you have to be careful
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this option, because you could get stabbed with the stylist if you
>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>> funny or if your pants are tight.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. Interesting subject. I would've taken the notetaker just
>>>>>>>> because I'm pretty touchy feely about my information. The numbers
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not programmable by a blind person in my cell phone, so a note
>>>>>>>> taker
>>>>>>>> is a good option.
>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Kevin Wassmer <commanderlumpy2003 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello folks. It's been a long time sense I have bought up a
>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> here. First of all, I will say I am doing fine. I have a job at
>>>>>>>>> Verizon
>>>>>>>>> Wireless working at a call center. It is challenging. How it is
>>>>>>>>> rewarding. I
>>>>>>>>> am glad to finely get off of social security soon. Or as I call it
>>>>>>>>> socialist
>>>>>>>>> insecurity. But that's another story.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to bring up a topic. I use to go to night
>>>>>>>>> clubs
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> in the day. I did not want to bring my Braille Note with me
>>>>>>>>> because the
>>>>>>>>> thought back then of bringing my note taker sounded strange. But I
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> always have a problem if I met someone and wanted to get their
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> was because the music was so loud that it was hard to communicate.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> have people program numbers in to my cell phone at nosy places
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>> question to you all is this. Being blind, would you have taken
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>> taker to the night club? The more I think about it, the more I
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Slate and Styles would have been a great option for some like the
>>>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>> club
>>>>>>>>> sidereal. What would you have done?
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