[nabs-l] Braille Vs Technology: is there room for only one intown?

Joe Orozco jsorozco at gmail.com
Wed Jan 6 19:48:37 UTC 2010


Darian,

The question is not directed at me, but my thought is that neither side can
really claim better employment prospects as an advantage.  Learning Braille,
in my opinion, heightens a person's ability to perform tasks, but this is a
skill that helps the individual, not something that would generally
contribute to the fulfillment of the job unless said job was in
rehabilitation training or education.  The same is true about technology.
Emerging technology is great, but this does not substitute work experience
or active evidence of how the technology is used.

I use and typically endorse any campaign to promote Braille.  However, I
disagree with the premise that Braille equals employment in the black and
white fashion we seem to advance.

As for Braille leaders and feelings about some blind people being better
than others, Eleanor Roosevelt pretty much summed it up when she said" "No
one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

Personal Translation: If the shoe fits, wear it.  Otherwise, just do what
you do and never mind the rest.

Joe Orozco

"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
crowd."--Max Lucado 

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille Vs Technology: is there room for 
only one intown?

Joseph,

 With the advant of and advances in  digital technologies  would one
not argue that people are  actually more likely to be employed because
access to information is  better than it was even five years ago?
  can it  be said that the blind who knnow braille are superior to the
blind who arn't? if so, who makes this determination?
  Respectfully,
  Darian


On 1/6/10, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Darian,
>
> What it makes them is statistically far less likely to be employed,
> for one thing.  That alone should convince parents and teachers the
> importance of Braille education.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 07:40:41PM -0800, Darian Smith wrote:
>>I hope individuals don't mind my playing devil's advocate  focused
>>upon the statement "braille readers are leaders".
>>   What does this  make those who arn't very good braille readers,
>>don't want to know, or  don't know braille?
>>
>> Do you feel the Organization  (the nfb) frowns upon  
non-braille readers?
>>  respectfullly,
>>  Darian
>>
>>On 1/4/10, Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd share my opinions for what it's worth.
>>>
>>> I was taught braille, and am very good at reading it.
>>> However, I admit with devices like the Victor Reader 
Stream, I really
>>> don't read in braille much. I have a Pacmate notetaker with 
a braille
>>> display, so I could and probably should download more books and read
>>> them digitally, but just listening to a book on the tiny stream is
>>> much easier than lugging around a note taker and reading on 
a braille
>>> display.
>>> So, I admit even as a great braille reader I don't use 
braille as much
>>> as I should.
>>>
>>> I do use it at my work though, for when I write previews I take my
>>> notes in braille and that helps tremendously...so it definitely has
>>> it's uses and children should definitely be taught it.
>>>
>>> Braille readers are leaders!
>>>
>>> Kerri+
>>>
>>> On 1/4/10, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Wow.  I admit to having been taught Braille as a child and 
my vision
>>>> teacher was wonderful, but it doesn't surprise me that a lot of
>>>> today's children are not taught that way.  Braille readers are
>>>> leaders, they say.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/10, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> This
>>>>> Listening to Braille
>>>>>
>>>>> By RACHEL AVIV
>>>>>
>>>>> Published: December 30, 2009
>>>>>
>>>>> AT 4 O'CLOCK each morning, Laura J. Sloate begins her 
daily reading.
>>>>> She calls a phone service that reads newspapers aloud in 
a synthetic
>>>>> voice, and she
>>>>> listens to The Wall Street Journal at 300 words a minute, which is
>>>>> nearly twice the average pace of speech. Later, an 
assistant reads The
>>>>> Financial Times
>>>>> to her while she uses her computer's text-to-speech 
system to play The
>>>>> Economist aloud. She devotes one ear to the paper and the 
other to the
>>>>> magazine.
>>>>> The managing director of a Wall Street investment management firm,
>>>>> Sloate has been blind since age 6, and although she reads 
constantly,
>>>>> poring over the
>>>>> news and the economic reports for several hours every morning, she
>>>>> does not use Braille. "Knowledge goes from my ears to my 
brain, not
>>>>> from my finger to
>>>>> my brain," she says. As a child she learned how the letters of the
>>>>> alphabet sounded, not how they appeared or felt on the page. She
>>>>> doesn't think of a
>>>>> comma in terms of its written form but rather as "a stop 
on the way
>>>>> before continuing." This, she says, is the future of 
reading for the
>>>>> blind. "Literacy
>>>>> evolves," she told me. "When Braille was invented, in the 19th
>>>>> century, we had nothing else. We didn't even have radio. 
At that time,
>>>>> blindness
>>>>>  was a disability. Now it's just a minor, minor impairment."
>>>>>
>>>>> A few decades ago, commentators predicted that the electronic age
>>>>> would create a postliterate generation as new forms of 
media eclipsed
>>>>> the written word.
>>>>> Marshall McLuhan claimed that Western culture would return to the
>>>>> "tribal and oral pattern." But the decline of written language has
>>>>> become a reality for
>>>>> only the blind. Although Sloate does regret not spending more time
>>>>> learning to spell in her youth - she writes by dictation 
- she says
>>>>> she thinks that
>>>>> using Braille would have only isolated her from her sighted peers.
>>>>> "It's an arcane means of communication, which for the 
most part should
>>>>> be abolished,"
>>>>> she told me. "It's just not needed today."
>>>>>
>>>>> Braille books are expensive and cumbersome, requiring 
reams of thick,
>>>>> oversize paper. The National Braille Press, an 
83-year-old publishing
>>>>> house in Boston,
>>>>> printed the
>>>>> Harry Potter
>>>>>  series on its Heidelberg cylinder; the final product was 
56 volumes,
>>>>> each nearly a foot tall. Because a single textbook can 
cost more than
>>>>> $1,000 and there's
>>>>> a shortage of Braille teachers in public schools, 
visually impaired
>>>>> students often read using MP3 players, audiobooks and
>>>>> computer-screen-reading software.
>>>>>
>>>>> A report released last year by the National Federation of 
the Blind,
>>>>> an advocacy group with 50,000 members, said that less 
than 10 percent
>>>>> of the 1.3 million
>>>>> legally blind Americans read Braille. Whereas roughly half of all
>>>>> blind children learned Braille in the 1950s, today that 
number is as
>>>>> low as 1 in 10,
>>>>> according to the report. The figures are controversial 
because there
>>>>> is debate about when a child with residual vision has 
"too much sight"
>>>>> for Braille
>>>>> and because the causes of blindness have changed over the 
decades - in
>>>>> recent years more blind children have multiple 
disabilities, because
>>>>> of premature
>>>>> births. It is clear, though, that Braille literacy has 
been waning for
>>>>> some time, even among the most intellectually capable, 
and the report
>>>>> has inspired
>>>>> a fervent movement to change the way blind people read. 
"What we're
>>>>> finding are students who are very smart, very verbally able - and
>>>>> illiterate," Jim
>>>>> Marks, a board member for the past five years of the 
Association on
>>>>> Higher Education and Disability, told me. "We stopped teaching our
>>>>> nation's blind children
>>>>> how to read and write. We put a tape player, then a 
computer, on their
>>>>> desks. Now their writing is phonetic and butchered. They 
never got to
>>>>> learn the
>>>>> beauty and shape and structure of language."
>>>>>
>>>>> For much of the past century, blind children attended residential
>>>>> institutions where they learned to read by touching the 
words. Today,
>>>>> visually impaired
>>>>> children can be well versed in literature without knowing 
how to read;
>>>>> computer-screen-reading software will even break down 
each word and
>>>>> read the individual
>>>>> letters aloud. Literacy has become much harder to define, even for
>>>>> educators.
>>>>>
>>>>> "If all you have in the world is what you hear people 
say, then your
>>>>> mind is limited," Darrell Shandrow, who runs a blog called Blind
>>>>> Access Journal, told
>>>>> me. "You need written symbols to organize your mind. If 
you can't feel
>>>>> or see the word, what does it mean? The substance is 
gone." Like many
>>>>> Braille readers,
>>>>> Shandrow says that new computers, which form a single 
line of Braille
>>>>> cells at a time, will revive the code of bumps, but these 
devices are
>>>>> still extremely
>>>>> costly and not yet widely used. Shandrow views the 
decline in Braille
>>>>> literacy as a sign of regression, not progress: "This is 
like going
>>>>> back to the 1400s,
>>>>> before Gutenberg's printing press came on the scene," he 
said. "Only
>>>>> the scholars and monks knew how to read and write. And 
then there were
>>>>> the illiterate
>>>>> masses, the peasants."
>>>>>
>>>>> UNTIL THE 19TH CENTURY, blind people were confined to an 
oral culture.
>>>>> Some tried to read letters carved in wood or wax, formed 
by wire or
>>>>> outlined in felt
>>>>> with pins. Dissatisfied with such makeshift methods, 
Louis Braille, a
>>>>> student at the Royal Institute for Blind Youth in Paris, began
>>>>> studying a cipher
>>>>> language of bumps, called night writing, developed by a 
French Army
>>>>> officer so soldiers could send messages in the dark. 
Braille modified
>>>>> the code so that
>>>>> it could be read more efficiently - each letter or 
punctuation symbol
>>>>> is represented by a pattern of one to six dots on a 
matrix of three
>>>>> rows and two
>>>>> columns - and added abbreviations for commonly used words like
>>>>> "knowledge," "people" and "Lord." Endowed with a reliable 
method of
>>>>> written communication
>>>>> for the first time in history, blind people had a 
significant rise in
>>>>> social status, and Louis Braille was embraced as a kind 
of liberator
>>>>> and spiritual
>>>>> savior. With his "godlike courage," Helen Keller wrote, 
Braille built
>>>>> a "firm stairway for millions of sense-crippled human 
beings to climb
>>>>> from hopeless
>>>>> darkness to the Mind Eternal."
>>>>>
>>>>> At the time, blindness was viewed not just as the absence 
of sight but
>>>>> also as a condition that created a separate kind of species, more
>>>>> innocent and malleable,
>>>>> not fully formed. Some scholars said that blind people spoke a
>>>>> different sort of language, disconnected from visual 
experience. In
>>>>> his 1933 book, "The
>>>>> Blind in School and Society," the psychologist Thomas 
Cutsforth, who
>>>>> lost his sight at age 11, warned that students who were 
too rapidly
>>>>> assimilated into
>>>>> the sighted world would become lost in "verbal unreality." At some
>>>>> residential schools, teachers avoided words that 
referenced color or
>>>>> light because,
>>>>> they said, students might stretch the meanings beyond sense. These
>>>>> theories have since been discredited, and studies have shown that
>>>>> blind children as
>>>>> young as 4 understand the difference in meaning between words like
>>>>> "look," "touch" and "see." And yet Cutsforth was not entirely
>>>>> misguided in his argument
>>>>> that sensory deprivation restructures the mind. In the 
1990s, a series
>>>>> of brain-imaging studies revealed that the visual cortices of the
>>>>> blind are not
>>>>> rendered useless, as previously assumed. When test subjects swept
>>>>> their fingers over a line of Braille, they showed intense 
activation
>>>>> in the parts of
>>>>> the brain that typically process visual input.
>>>>>
>>>>> These imaging studies have been cited by some educators 
as proof that
>>>>> Braille is essential for blind children's cognitive 
development, as
>>>>> the visual cortex
>>>>> takes more than 20 percent of the brain. Given the 
brain's plasticity,
>>>>> it is difficult to make the argument that one kind of reading -
>>>>> whether the information
>>>>> is absorbed by ear, finger or retina - is inherently better than
>>>>> another, at least with regard to cognitive function. The 
architecture
>>>>> of the brain is
>>>>> not fixed, and without images to process, the visual cortex can
>>>>> reorganize for new functions. A 2003 study in Nature Neuroscience
>>>>> found that blind subjects
>>>>> consistently surpassed sighted ones on tests of verbal
>>>>> memory
>>>>> , and their superior performance was caused, the authors 
suggested, by
>>>>> the extra processing that took place in the visual 
regions of their
>>>>> brains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Learning to read is so entwined in the normal course of child
>>>>> development that it is easy to assume that our brains are 
naturally
>>>>> wired for print literacy.
>>>>> But humans have been reading for fewer than 6,000 years 
(and literacy
>>>>> has been widespread for no more than a century and a half). The
>>>>> activity of reading
>>>>> itself alters the anatomy of the brain. In a report 
released in 2009
>>>>> in the journal Nature, the neuroscientist Manuel Carreiras studies
>>>>> illiterate former
>>>>> guerrillas in Colombia who, after years of combat, had 
abandoned their
>>>>> weapons, left the jungle and rejoined civilization. 
Carreiras compares
>>>>> 20 adults
>>>>> who had recently completed a literacy program with 22 
people who had
>>>>> not yet begun it. In
>>>>> M.R.I.
>>>>>  scans of their brains, the newly literate subjects 
showed more gray
>>>>> matter in their angular gyri, an area crucial for 
language processing,
>>>>> and more white
>>>>> matter in part of the corpus callosum, which links the two
>>>>> hemispheres. Deficiencies in these regions were 
previously observed in
>>>>> dyslexics, and the study
>>>>> suggests that those brain patterns weren't the cause of their
>>>>> illiteracy, as had been hypothesized, but a result.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no doubt that literacy changes brain circuitry, 
but how this
>>>>> reorganization affects our capacity for language is still 
a matter of
>>>>> debate. In moving
>>>>> from written to spoken language, the greatest 
consequences for blind
>>>>> people may not be cognitive but cultural - a loss much harder to
>>>>> avoid. In one of
>>>>> the few studies of blind people's prose, Doug Brent, a 
professor of
>>>>> communication at the University of Calgary, and his wife, 
Diana Brent,
>>>>> a teacher of
>>>>> visually impaired students, analyzed stories by students 
who didn't
>>>>> use Braille but rather composed on a regular keyboard and 
edited by
>>>>> listening to their
>>>>> words played aloud. One 16-year-old wrote a fictional 
story about a
>>>>> character named Mark who had "sleep bombs":
>>>>>
>>>>> He looked in the house windo that was his da windo his 
dad was walking
>>>>> around with a mask on he took it off he opend the windo 
and fell on
>>>>> his bed sleeping
>>>>> mark took two bombs and tosed them in the windo the popt 
his dad lept
>>>>> up but before he could grab the mask it explodedhe fell 
down asleep.
>>>>>
>>>>> In describing this story and others like it, the Brents 
invoked the
>>>>> literary scholar Walter Ong, who argued that members of literate
>>>>> societies think differently
>>>>> than members of oral societies. The act of writing, Ong said - the
>>>>> ability to revisit your ideas and, in the process, refine them -
>>>>> transformed the shape
>>>>> of thought. The Brents characterized the writing of many 
audio-only
>>>>> readers as disorganized, "as if all of their ideas are 
crammed into a
>>>>> container, shaken
>>>>> and thrown randomly onto a sheet of paper like dice onto 
a table." The
>>>>> beginnings and endings of sentences seem arbitrary, one thought
>>>>> emerging in the
>>>>> midst of another with a kind of breathless energy. The authors
>>>>> concluded, "It just doesn't seem to reflect the qualities 
of organized
>>>>> sequence and complex
>>>>> thought that we value in a literate society."
>>>>>
>>>>> OUR DEFINITION of a literate society inevitably shifts as 
our tools
>>>>> for reading and writing evolve, but the brief history of 
literacy for
>>>>> blind people makes
>>>>> the prospect of change particularly fraught. Since the 1820s, when
>>>>> Louis Braille invented his writing system - so that blind 
people would
>>>>> no longer be
>>>>> "despised or patronized by condescending sighted people," 
as he put it
>>>>> - there has always been, among blind people, a political and even
>>>>> moral dimension
>>>>> to learning to read. Braille is viewed by many as a mark of
>>>>> independence, a sign that blind people have moved away 
from an oral
>>>>> culture seen as primitive
>>>>> and isolating. In recent years, however, this narrative has been
>>>>> complicated. Schoolchildren in developed countries, like 
the U.S. and
>>>>> Britain, are now
>>>>> thought to have lower Braille literacy than those in 
developing ones,
>>>>> like Indonesia and Botswana, where there are few alternatives to
>>>>> Braille. Tim Connell,
>>>>> the managing director of an assistive-technology company 
in Australia,
>>>>> told me that he has heard this described as "one of the 
advantages of
>>>>> being poor."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Braille readers do not deny that new reading technology has been
>>>>> transformative, but Braille looms so large in the mythology of
>>>>> blindness that it has assumed
>>>>> a kind of talismanic status. Those who have residual 
vision and still
>>>>> try to read print - very slowly or by holding the page an 
inch or two
>>>>> from their
>>>>> faces - are generally frowned upon by the National 
Federation of the
>>>>> Blind, which fashions itself as the leader of a civil 
rights movement
>>>>> for the blind.
>>>>> Its president, Marc Maurer, a voracious reader, compares 
Louis Braille
>>>>> to
>>>>> Abraham Lincoln
>>>>> . At the annual convention for the federation, held at a Detroit
>>>>> Marriott last July, I heard the mantra "listening is not literacy"
>>>>> repeated everywhere,
>>>>> from panels on the Braille crisis to conversations among 
middle-school
>>>>> girls. Horror stories circulating around the convention featured
>>>>> children who don't
>>>>> know what a paragraph is or why we capitalize letters or 
that "happily
>>>>> ever after" is made up of three separate words.
>>>>>
>>>>> Declaring your own illiteracy seemed to be a rite of 
passage. A vice
>>>>> president of the federation, Fredric Schroeder, served as 
commissioner
>>>>> of the Rehabilitation
>>>>> Services Administration under President Clinton and 
relies primarily
>>>>> on audio technologies. He was openly repentant about his lack of
>>>>> reading skills. "I
>>>>> am now over 50 years old, and it wasn't until two months 
ago that I
>>>>> realized that 'dissent,' to disagree, is different than 
'descent,' to
>>>>> lower something,"
>>>>> he told me. "I'm functionally illiterate. People say, 
'Oh, no, you're
>>>>> not.' Yes, I am. I'm sorry about it, but I'm not 
embarrassed to admit
>>>>> it."
>>>>>
>>>>> While people like Laura Sloate or the governor of New York,
>>>>> David A. Paterson
>>>>> , who also reads by listening, may be able to achieve 
without the help
>>>>> of Braille, their success requires accommodations that many cannot
>>>>> afford. Like Sloate,
>>>>> Paterson dictates his memos, and his staff members select 
pertinent
>>>>> newspaper articles for him and read them aloud on his 
voice mail every
>>>>> morning. (He
>>>>> calls himself "overassimilated" and told me that as a child he was
>>>>> "mainstreamed so much that I psychologically got the 
message that I'm
>>>>> not really supposed
>>>>> to be blind.") Among people with fewer resources, 
Braille-readers tend
>>>>> to form the blind elite, in part because it is more 
plausible for a
>>>>> blind person
>>>>> to find work doing intellectual rather than manual labor.
>>>>>
>>>>> A 1996 study showed that of a sample of visually impaired adults,
>>>>> those who learned Braille as children were more than 
twice as likely
>>>>> to be employed as
>>>>> those who had not. At the convention this statistic was frequently
>>>>> cited with pride, so much so that those who didn't know 
Braille were
>>>>> sometimes made
>>>>> to feel like outsiders. "There is definitely a sense of 
peer pressure
>>>>> from the older guard," James Brown, a 35-year-old who reads using
>>>>> text-to-speech
>>>>> software, told me. "If we could live in our own little 
Braille world,
>>>>> then that'd be perfect," he added. "But we live in a 
visual world."
>>>>>
>>>>> When deaf people began getting
>>>>> cochlear implants
>>>>>  in the late 1980s, many in the deaf community felt 
betrayed. The new
>>>>> technology pushed people to think of the disability in a 
new way - as
>>>>> an identity
>>>>> and a culture. Technology has changed the nature of many 
disabilities,
>>>>> lifting the burdens but also complicating people's sense 
of what is
>>>>> physically natural,
>>>>> because bodies can so often be tweaked until "fixed." Arielle
>>>>> Silverman, a graduate student at the convention who has been blind
>>>>> since birth, told me that
>>>>> if she had the choice to have vision, she was not sure 
she would take
>>>>> it. Recently she purchased a pocket-size reading machine 
that takes
>>>>> photographs of
>>>>> text and then reads the words aloud, and she said she thought of
>>>>> vision like that, as "just another piece of technology."
>>>>>
>>>>> The modern history of blind people is in many ways a history of
>>>>> reading, with the scope of the disability - the extent to 
which you
>>>>> are viewed as ignorant
>>>>> or civilized, helpless or independent - determined largely by your
>>>>> ability to access the printed word. For 150 years, 
Braille books were
>>>>> designed to function
>>>>> as much as possible like print books. But now the computer has
>>>>> essentially done away with the limits of form, because 
information,
>>>>> once it has been digitized,
>>>>> can be conveyed through sound or touch. For sighted people, the
>>>>> transition from print to digital text has been relatively 
subtle, but
>>>>> for many blind people
>>>>> the shift to computerized speech is an unwelcome and uncharted
>>>>> experiment. In grappling with what has been lost, several 
federation
>>>>> members recited to
>>>>> me various takes on the classic expression Scripta manent, verba
>>>>> volant: What is written remains, what is spoken vanishes into air.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rachel Aviv is a Rosalynn Carter fellow for mental-health 
journalism
>>>>> with the Carter Center and writes frequently on education for The
>>>>> Times.
>>>>>
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>>>>> recruitment campaign to help attract energetic and passionate
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>>>>> past and future generations,
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>>>>> you. Together, starting today, let us finish the work 
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