[nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac

Dennis Clark dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jun 26 23:58:08 UTC 2010


Hello Domonique,
Hope you are doing well.  I wanted to find out if you have obtained a Mac 
computer yet, and if so,  how it is working out for you.  I look forward to 
hearing from you.
All the best,
Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Domonique Lawless" <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac


> Dennis,
>
> I am not currently using a mac but Voc Rehab is purchasing one for me
> and it should be here soon. I'll post more on it when I get it. If you
> have any questions though please feel free to email me and I'll see
> what I can find out.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Domonique
>
> On 5/16/10, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
>> there is a type of kurzwiel for the mac
>> this should help you out:
>> http://maccessibility.net/guides/all/
>> On May 16, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Dennis Clark wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Domonique,
>>> I really appreciate hearing from you.  My fear was that Fusion would be
>>> some additional expensive program but to my surprise I think it is only
>>> around $80, a virtual bargain in the software world.
>>>
>>> Which Mac computer are you using?  Also, do you happen to know if Safari
>>> on the Mac works better then Internet Explorer on Windows?  Frequently
>>> with IE, one can have problems accessing webpages that use java links,
>>> flash, and silverlite.  Do you happen to know if Safari with Voiceover 
>>> is
>>> more able to handle such pages.
>>>
>>> I want to again thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing 
>>> from
>>> you when you have a moment.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domonique Lawless"
>>> <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dennis,
>>>> With most programs you can jump back and forth. If you get a mac and
>>>> want to simultaneously run windows then a program called fusion would
>>>> be best. I hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>> Domonique
>>>>
>>>> On 5/9/10, Dennis Clark <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Mac users,
>>>>> The various recent post on using the Mac have been really helpful and
>>>>> encouraging.  The Windows based program which I most use on Windows is
>>>>> the
>>>>> Kurzweil programs for which there is no Mac version.  I understand 
>>>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> Mac can be run in some sort of Windows simulation mode where windows
>>>>> programs will run.  If I were to run Kurzweil in this alternative mode
>>>>> and
>>>>> then need to jump back to the Mac email program or other supplied Mac
>>>>> programs would I have to reboot the computer or can you simply "jump"
>>>>> back
>>>>> and forth between the windows and Mac operating systems?  I look 
>>>>> forward
>>>>> to
>>>>> hearing about your experience.  Thanks for your help.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Basic Questions About Mac versus Pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joe:
>>>>>> I have run Mac for the last 3 years and I'm extremely happy with the
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your questions are addressed below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. In the most recent platform upgrade, how has the accessibility
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> terms of the screen reader?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has had vast improvements since its start, with extremely 
>>>>>> simplified
>>>>>> interphase and nice twists for the users in terms of shurt-cuts and
>>>>>> usability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the screen reader only updated with system
>>>>>> upgrades, or are there ever updates between major upgrades?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example: I'm running 10.6, but then I've upgraded to 10.6.3. Its
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> always the case, but many of these bring Voice Over updates along.
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> if you use iTunes for your music, iTunes may have an update that says
>>>>>> simply "fixes stability issues with Voice Over."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you had to
>>>>>> compare Voiceover to JAWS, how does their functionality break down? 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> it's not fair to compare one to the other because the logic is a bit
>>>>>> different, but I'm hoping you can speak to the level of manipulation
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have over the applications in your computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. How easy is it to control documents in the word processor?  Do 
>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> their own version of MS Office, or is there a native word processor
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> makes Office documents readable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their text editor (called Text Edit) is great for almost all types of
>>>>>> documents. I would advice you to get iWork, Apple's version of MS if
>>>>>> you're dealing with Powerpoints, excell, etc.
>>>>>> DO NOT BUY THE MAC MS VERSION BECAUSE IT IS UNACCESSIBLE. Apple's
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> is 100% accessible while the MS made version of their own suite is 
>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Complete control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't say it any simpler. Complete, 100% accessible control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as MS docs, you should be fine with Text Edit (comes with the
>>>>>> Mac)
>>>>>> unless you're dealing with Powerpoint and Excell. In that case buy
>>>>>> iWork.
>>>>>> Don't buy the Mac version of MS done by MS because its 11000%
>>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. What can you tell us about their e-mail client?  Outlook has its
>>>>>> quirks
>>>>>> but is almost 100 percent accessible.  Sunbird, by contrast, would be
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> but in my opinion still had some accessibility shortcomings.  I'm
>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>> if the same is true of iCal and Mac-based applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac Mail is 100% accessible. All the features are at your fingertips,
>>>>>> literaly, with the exception of stationarry but I honestly think you
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You also have access to create signatures and a ton of bonus 
>>>>>> features.
>>>>>> Ical however, is 100% inaccessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. How much freedom do you have with Macs to go outside of iTunes?  I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> much care for proprietary packages unless it's unavoidable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iTunes is the best accessible solution I know. If you want to avoid 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> there are options, but I wouldn't be the person to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. Are hardware repairs truly limited to Apple stores?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple stores and authorized retalors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trust me, if you do anyoffice work the Mac will be perfect.
>>>>>> If you're in the field--that's debatable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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