[nabs-l] a couple of questions

Sat May 8 00:24:22 UTC 2010

Hello,

I'm not posted here in a long time, but I did want to comment here.  I agree
with what was said about going to the bar--just go for it.  As for the mall,
wandering around is the best way if you have some extra time -- you gain
confidence and knowledge of where things are without having to feel like you
need to take someone's arm.  I always like to rely on general directions;
that is, get up fro mthe seating area (I would ask where the nearest trash
can is for getting rid of your food, at the moment when you buy it, so you
can just get up and through it out without having to ask for assistance at
this point), then begin walking in the general direction of the other end of
the mall.  Along the way, casually ask someone if the movie theatre is in
this area,, this way, etc.  Ask if it is on the left or the right.  Do not
get caught in the trap of thinking you have to ask specific directions,
because most sighted people find it very difficult to give specific
directions, as they rely on signs and other large visual indicators for
directions and guidance.

When you get there, you will hear people in line, or may notice a line of
folks as you walk -- this is most likely the ticket line.  Ask, "Is this the
end of the line?"  If they say yes, stand there and gently put the end of
your cane to the ankles of the person in front, and be sure and stand
approximately two to three steps back as not to crowd the person in front of
you.  In this way, you will notice if they move forward.

Again, general directions apply here -- and be sure and enjoy the movie!

I hope this helps.
Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Darian Smith
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:22 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] a couple of questions

Hello Kerri.

 I would say that if you want to go to the bar, go for it.
 I think there is nothing wrong with wanting a night out to yourself,
and believe it  or not, alot of us  as  blind peoplego out with
friends or by yourselves.
  I think a simple way of calling for a cab would be to  ask  the fron
to call one- they'll  have  the addres and when  the cab company
calls, they will cal  the bar and  you can get  an employee to let you
know/help you out there if you need to.
 I know I am jumping  around a little, but here's my thought on the
different bars;  you  can absolutely go to whatever bar you want to,
the difference may be  simply that  you just know people at  your
father's bar more so than you do  the other bar.   One thing to think
about  with how bars tend to serve you; some  may be known for having
great service and others may not be so known for it- so if one place
treats you well, and  one does not - it   may be linked to that.
  As the Mall goes, I find getting  general directions twards the food
courtis good- the food court has a very distinctive food smell and
you'll be able to find it rather easily.
 if you are not feeling very confident about it, you can  always ask
for assistance  to the food court and or to the movies.  If you have
more time on your hands and you want to, maybe you might go exploring
the mall. Exploring the mall can be  rather fun because you may find
stores in the mall that you didn't know were there (though, this could
be  equally  not so great on your pocket book *smile*)
 both social events should be fun and i hope you take them as
low-stress as they should be.
  As convention goes I would just  say that you'll love it!  there are
many people who use many different modes of travel in the  hotel, and
gain so much from it.
 I hope this helps,
  Darian

On 5/7/10, William ODonnell <william.odonnell1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can do the following:
> [1]. go outside and call the cab, put the phone on vibrate to know when
they
> call.
> [2]. Since you know the bar near home, do you know your way around?  Why
is
> one guiding you? Do you use a cane or dog?
>
> Before leaving, reserve a pick-up time for leaving and comeing home.
>
> --- On Fri, 5/7/10, Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] a couple of questions
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 7:22 AM
>> Hi:
>>
>> I have a couple of questions I am hoping some people on the
>> list can
>> help me with.
>>
>> First, my father owned a very very popular bar where I live
>> called
>> Crocketts. My father passed away a couple of months ago but
>> the bar is
>> still open. I went tonight for the first time since he
>> passed away.
>> Tonight was kereoke night and I had more fun than I've ever
>> had just
>> hanging out, listening to the different people sing or try
>> to sing
>> kereoke and just being around people.
>>
>> There is a similar bar called Coaches that has a kereoke
>> thing every
>> week just like Crocketts does that is very fun. I have
>> never gone to
>> this by myself but have gone with friends and really
>> enjoyed it also
>> for the same reasons...music, people, and just fun
>> entertainment away
>> from my house.
>>
>> At Crocketts, since my father owned the bar I am safe
>> there. I sit at
>> the bar (I don't drink) but I sit there anyway. The
>> waitresses and
>> bartenders all know me and frequently check on me to make
>> sure
>> everything is all right.
>>
>> However, at Coaches it is a diffferent story. I am not
>> really known
>> there, and when I've gone with friends we are usually
>> seated at a
>> table. The waitress comes around to serve drinks and food,
>> but as soon
>> as the bill is paid they leave and we are on our own.
>>
>> Here is where my question comes in. I would like to begin
>> going to
>> Coaches for their kereoke night. Getting there is no
>> problem, but how
>> do I manage the getting home part? I carry my Iphone with
>> me, but the
>> bar is so loud that it is impossible to hear anything to
>> call a cab.
>> Also, how do I know when the cab gets there? Again I
>> usually have the
>> driver call me when he arrives but again I wouldn't be able
>> to hear my
>> phone.
>>
>> At Crocketts since everyone knows me, I have someone guide
>> me to the
>> bathroom where it is quiet. I call a cab, and have them
>> call Crocketts
>> and tell whoever answers the phone that they are outside to
>> pick me
>> up. Of course this is no problem since everyone knows me at
>> Crocketts.
>>
>> But, how do I manage this at Coaches? When I am ready to
>> leave do I
>> somehow flag the waitress down and have her help me to the
>> bathroom,
>> where I call the cab then wait in the bathroom for them to
>> call me
>> back?
>> Waiting outside for the cab after I call would be kind of
>> unsafe.
>> Unfortunately, the friends that went with me before were
>> from out of
>> town and I don't have very many friends where i live that I
>> could go
>> with.
>>
>> Is it appropriate to ask the driver to come inside to let
>> me know they
>> are there...this way I don't have to wait outside?
>> How do you guys handle this?
>>
>> I know it isn't probably the safest thing to go to bars by
>> yourself
>> but kereoke is a ton of fun and I know if I could figure
>> out this
>> getting home part I'd be fine.
>>
>>
>> Also, I have another question. I would like to go to the
>> mall/movies
>> Saturday. Again, I'll most likely be by myself. I would
>> like to get
>> something to eat first in the food court in the mall, then
>> go to the
>> movie theater. Our mall is pretty big and spacious and
>> spread out. It
>> is all on one level but i am pretty sure the food court and
>> the
>> theater are at separate ends. How do I get from one place
>> to the
>> other?
>>
>> When I arrive at the mall, I plan to go to the information
>> desk and
>> get assistance to the food court. When I have finished
>> eating how do I
>> figure out how to get from the seating area to the movie
>> theaters?
>>
>> Do I just start wandering around and asking random people
>> for
>> directions to the movie theater, then obtain assistance
>> again at the
>> movie theater to purchase a ticket, ETC to see the movie?
>>
>> Sorry for such a long email and so many dumb questions.
>> Yes, I am the
>> same girl who posted a few weeks ago about not having been
>> taught in
>> cane travel and wondering whether I should go to national
>> convention.
>> However, I am tired of sitting around, and want to go and
>> do
>> regardless of my skills and I figure the best way is to ask
>> questions
>> on here as needed and just grab my NFB cane and go!
>>
>> Kerri
>>
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