[nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac

Sun May 16 23:47:11 UTC 2010

Dennis,

I am not currently using a mac but Voc Rehab is purchasing one for me
and it should be here soon. I'll post more on it when I get it. If you
have any questions though please feel free to email me and I'll see
what I can find out.

Best Wishes,
Domonique

On 5/16/10, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
> there is a type of kurzwiel for the mac
> this should help you out:
> http://maccessibility.net/guides/all/
> On May 16, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Dennis Clark wrote:
>
>> Hello Domonique,
>> I really appreciate hearing from you.  My fear was that Fusion would be
>> some additional expensive program but to my surprise I think it is only
>> around $80, a virtual bargain in the software world.
>>
>> Which Mac computer are you using?  Also, do you happen to know if Safari
>> on the Mac works better then Internet Explorer on Windows?  Frequently
>> with IE, one can have problems accessing webpages that use java links,
>> flash, and silverlite.  Do you happen to know if Safari with Voiceover is
>> more able to handle such pages.
>>
>> I want to again thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from
>> you when you have a moment.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domonique Lawless"
>> <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac
>>
>>
>>> Dennis,
>>> With most programs you can jump back and forth. If you get a mac and
>>> want to simultaneously run windows then a program called fusion would
>>> be best. I hope this helps!
>>>
>>> Domonique
>>>
>>> On 5/9/10, Dennis Clark <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Hello Mac users,
>>>> The various recent post on using the Mac have been really helpful and
>>>> encouraging.  The Windows based program which I most use on Windows is
>>>> the
>>>> Kurzweil programs for which there is no Mac version.  I understand that
>>>> the
>>>> Mac can be run in some sort of Windows simulation mode where windows
>>>> programs will run.  If I were to run Kurzweil in this alternative mode
>>>> and
>>>> then need to jump back to the Mac email program or other supplied Mac
>>>> programs would I have to reboot the computer or can you simply "jump"
>>>> back
>>>> and forth between the windows and Mac operating systems?  I look forward
>>>> to
>>>> hearing about your experience.  Thanks for your help.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Basic Questions About Mac versus Pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joe:
>>>>> I have run Mac for the last 3 years and I'm extremely happy with the
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your questions are addressed below:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. In the most recent platform upgrade, how has the accessibility
>>>>> changed
>>>>> in
>>>>> terms of the screen reader?
>>>>>
>>>>> It has had vast improvements since its start, with extremely simplified
>>>>> interphase and nice twists for the users in terms of shurt-cuts and
>>>>> usability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the screen reader only updated with system
>>>>> upgrades, or are there ever updates between major upgrades?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example: I'm running 10.6, but then I've upgraded to 10.6.3. Its
>>>>> not
>>>>> always the case, but many of these bring Voice Over updates along.
>>>>> Also,
>>>>> if you use iTunes for your music, iTunes may have an update that says
>>>>> simply "fixes stability issues with Voice Over."
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had to
>>>>> compare Voiceover to JAWS, how does their functionality break down?  I
>>>>> know
>>>>> it's not fair to compare one to the other because the logic is a bit
>>>>> different, but I'm hoping you can speak to the level of manipulation
>>>>> you
>>>>> have over the applications in your computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. How easy is it to control documents in the word processor?  Do Macs
>>>>> use
>>>>> their own version of MS Office, or is there a native word processor
>>>>> that
>>>>> makes Office documents readable?
>>>>>
>>>>> Their text editor (called Text Edit) is great for almost all types of
>>>>> documents. I would advice you to get iWork, Apple's version of MS if
>>>>> you're dealing with Powerpoints, excell, etc.
>>>>> DO NOT BUY THE MAC MS VERSION BECAUSE IT IS UNACCESSIBLE. Apple's
>>>>> version
>>>>> is 100% accessible while the MS made version of their own suite is 100%
>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Complete control.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't say it any simpler. Complete, 100% accessible control.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as MS docs, you should be fine with Text Edit (comes with the
>>>>> Mac)
>>>>> unless you're dealing with Powerpoint and Excell. In that case buy
>>>>> iWork.
>>>>> Don't buy the Mac version of MS done by MS because its 11000%
>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. What can you tell us about their e-mail client?  Outlook has its
>>>>> quirks
>>>>> but is almost 100 percent accessible.  Sunbird, by contrast, would be
>>>>> great
>>>>> but in my opinion still had some accessibility shortcomings.  I'm
>>>>> wondering
>>>>> if the same is true of iCal and Mac-based applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac Mail is 100% accessible. All the features are at your fingertips,
>>>>> literaly, with the exception of stationarry but I honestly think you
>>>>> won't
>>>>>
>>>>> use that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You also have access to create signatures and a ton of bonus features.
>>>>> Ical however, is 100% inaccessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. How much freedom do you have with Macs to go outside of iTunes?  I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> much care for proprietary packages unless it's unavoidable.
>>>>>
>>>>> iTunes is the best accessible solution I know. If you want to avoid it
>>>>> there are options, but I wouldn't be the person to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Are hardware repairs truly limited to Apple stores?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple stores and authorized retalors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trust me, if you do anyoffice work the Mac will be perfect.
>>>>> If you're in the field--that's debatable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>
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