[nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac

Wed May 19 01:42:48 UTC 2010

Dennis,

I'll be getting the 13 inch mac book pro. I just graduated  from
Belmont University with a degree in German and a minor in Education.
I'll be heading to grad school next year to work on my masters as a
teacher of blind students and o and m instructor.

Best Wishes,
Domonique

On 5/17/10, Sarah Alawami <marrie12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a list for talking about macs and how to operate them. It is called
> the mac visionaries list. It is on google groups so search for it there.
>
> Also I'm working on a set of mac podcasts from a beginner's perspective.
>
> My contact info including the podcast link to the mac cast and other random
> bits are below if you need anything.
>
>
> Sarah Alawami
> msn: chellist at hotmail.com
> website: http://music.marrie.org
> twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1
> podcast link: http://marrie.podbean.com
>
> On May 16, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Domonique Lawless wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> I am not currently using a mac but Voc Rehab is purchasing one for me
>> and it should be here soon. I'll post more on it when I get it. If you
>> have any questions though please feel free to email me and I'll see
>> what I can find out.
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Domonique
>>
>> On 5/16/10, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> there is a type of kurzwiel for the mac
>>> this should help you out:
>>> http://maccessibility.net/guides/all/
>>> On May 16, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Dennis Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Domonique,
>>>> I really appreciate hearing from you.  My fear was that Fusion would be
>>>> some additional expensive program but to my surprise I think it is only
>>>> around $80, a virtual bargain in the software world.
>>>>
>>>> Which Mac computer are you using?  Also, do you happen to know if Safari
>>>> on the Mac works better then Internet Explorer on Windows?  Frequently
>>>> with IE, one can have problems accessing webpages that use java links,
>>>> flash, and silverlite.  Do you happen to know if Safari with Voiceover
>>>> is
>>>> more able to handle such pages.
>>>>
>>>> I want to again thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing
>>>> from
>>>> you when you have a moment.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domonique Lawless"
>>>> <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Kurzweil on the Mac
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>> With most programs you can jump back and forth. If you get a mac and
>>>>> want to simultaneously run windows then a program called fusion would
>>>>> be best. I hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>> Domonique
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/10, Dennis Clark <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Mac users,
>>>>>> The various recent post on using the Mac have been really helpful and
>>>>>> encouraging.  The Windows based program which I most use on Windows is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Kurzweil programs for which there is no Mac version.  I understand
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Mac can be run in some sort of Windows simulation mode where windows
>>>>>> programs will run.  If I were to run Kurzweil in this alternative mode
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then need to jump back to the Mac email program or other supplied Mac
>>>>>> programs would I have to reboot the computer or can you simply "jump"
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> and forth between the windows and Mac operating systems?  I look
>>>>>> forward
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hearing about your experience.  Thanks for your help.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Basic Questions About Mac versus Pc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Joe:
>>>>>>> I have run Mac for the last 3 years and I'm extremely happy with the
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your questions are addressed below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. In the most recent platform upgrade, how has the accessibility
>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> terms of the screen reader?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has had vast improvements since its start, with extremely
>>>>>>> simplified
>>>>>>> interphase and nice twists for the users in terms of shurt-cuts and
>>>>>>> usability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the screen reader only updated with system
>>>>>>> upgrades, or are there ever updates between major upgrades?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example: I'm running 10.6, but then I've upgraded to 10.6.3. Its
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> always the case, but many of these bring Voice Over updates along.
>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>> if you use iTunes for your music, iTunes may have an update that says
>>>>>>> simply "fixes stability issues with Voice Over."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you had to
>>>>>>> compare Voiceover to JAWS, how does their functionality break down?
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> it's not fair to compare one to the other because the logic is a bit
>>>>>>> different, but I'm hoping you can speak to the level of manipulation
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have over the applications in your computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. How easy is it to control documents in the word processor?  Do
>>>>>>> Macs
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> their own version of MS Office, or is there a native word processor
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> makes Office documents readable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Their text editor (called Text Edit) is great for almost all types of
>>>>>>> documents. I would advice you to get iWork, Apple's version of MS if
>>>>>>> you're dealing with Powerpoints, excell, etc.
>>>>>>> DO NOT BUY THE MAC MS VERSION BECAUSE IT IS UNACCESSIBLE. Apple's
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> is 100% accessible while the MS made version of their own suite is
>>>>>>> 100%
>>>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Complete control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't say it any simpler. Complete, 100% accessible control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as MS docs, you should be fine with Text Edit (comes with the
>>>>>>> Mac)
>>>>>>> unless you're dealing with Powerpoint and Excell. In that case buy
>>>>>>> iWork.
>>>>>>> Don't buy the Mac version of MS done by MS because its 11000%
>>>>>>> inaccessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. What can you tell us about their e-mail client?  Outlook has its
>>>>>>> quirks
>>>>>>> but is almost 100 percent accessible.  Sunbird, by contrast, would be
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> but in my opinion still had some accessibility shortcomings.  I'm
>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>> if the same is true of iCal and Mac-based applications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mac Mail is 100% accessible. All the features are at your fingertips,
>>>>>>> literaly, with the exception of stationarry but I honestly think you
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You also have access to create signatures and a ton of bonus
>>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>> Ical however, is 100% inaccessible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. How much freedom do you have with Macs to go outside of iTunes?  I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> much care for proprietary packages unless it's unavoidable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iTunes is the best accessible solution I know. If you want to avoid
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> there are options, but I wouldn't be the person to ask.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. Are hardware repairs truly limited to Apple stores?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apple stores and authorized retalors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trust me, if you do anyoffice work the Mac will be perfect.
>>>>>>> If you're in the field--that's debatable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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