[nabs-l] Calling all Cell phone users

Sat Nov 6 21:33:41 UTC 2010

Hi my name is Roosevelt Bradley.  I was wondering is there anybody
that wants to sell there Iphone?  Please let me know by emailing or
calling me.  email treyman19 at gmail.com or call 219-614-4650 thanks a
lot.

On 11/6/10, Conchita Hernandez Legorreta <hernandezlegorreta at gmail.com> wrote:
> Nicole,
> I have an iphone and I love it. Even thought the touch screen may seem
> to be intimidating it is not once you get a hang of it. I have found
> that the voice over is great on most apps and you have quite a bit of
> control over the settings that you use. It does not interfere with
> other apps that you may be using and you can turn it on and off esily
> with a button. The thing that can be annoying at first is that you
> must double tap the letters in order to type, but there is also an app
> called Dragon Dictation that is free where you can speak whatever you
> want to type and it will put in in text form very accuretly. Then you
> can put the text into a text message, facebook or other application. I
> have found it vey helpful, and the voiceover works perfectly with it.
> If you have any other questions feel free to contact me off list. But
> like it was mentioned beforehand, the best thing to do is play with it
> for a while to get used to it.
> Conchita
>
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>>    1. Re: questions from a parent of a blind child
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>>    2. Few questions on Student seminars.... (Alexander Castillo)
>>    3. Re: Few questions on Student seminars.... (Cindy Bennett)
>>    4. Re: questions from a parent of a blind child (Cindy Bennett)
>>    5. Calling all iPhone users (Ben Schuler)
>>    6. Re: Few questions on Student seminars.... (Darian Smith)
>>    7. Re: Calling all iPhone users (Anjelina)
>>    8. Re: Calling all iPhone users (Darrell Shandrow)
>>    9. Octave (Nicole B. Torcolini)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:25:11 -0700
>> From: Barbara.Mathews at sce.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
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>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:18:01 -0400
>> From: Alexander Castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com>
>> To: nabs-presidents at nfbnet.org, nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Few questions on Student seminars....
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>> Hello All, here in New York, we are thinking of having our first
>> student seminar in a long time. Before we do so, there are a couple of
>> questions that some of you might be able to assist us with.
>>
>> What sort of funding is typically used to put on a seminar? As I
>> understand things, we are able  to apply for funding from the
>> Imagination Fund, however, are there additional resources that are
>> used? Have any of your divisions put together a seminar in which some
>> participants were sponsored by a  state agency? If so,  what steps did
>> you take to have these students sponsored?
>>
>> What does your typical agenda look like? We are looking at three main
>> points of focus; these would be Technology, education, and other
>> useful resources.
>>
>> Like most of your states, New York has students spread throughout the
>> state: What sort of locations are regularly used to hold your
>> seminars?
>>
>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>
>> Thanks for reading,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:51:34 -0400
>> From: Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Few questions on Student seminars....
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> We hold our seminar in Raleigh. This is a central city that is easy to
>> get to from the whole state, and most of our leaders in NABS live
>> there. But I do think that if you start having one every year, moving
>> it around wouldn't be such a bad idea.
>>
>> We try to charge as little as possible for students to come, so that
>> way more can come, and they can spend other money on transportation.
>> We colaborate with the local DSB offices, that is division of services
>> for the blind, not sure what it's called in New York, and some of them
>> are willing to bring vans of students to the seminar so that
>> eliminates the transportation costs. That being said, we have not done
>> an overnight seminar, so we have never had to think about hotel costs
>> and more than one meal.
>>
>> The money we use to run the seminar comes from a yearly fund raiser
>> that we do. We work with a vendor who graciously donates snacks to us
>> and make snack packs for our state convention. They are a hit. Some
>> other popular fund raisers are the Belk days cards. Basically, they
>> give organizations $5 off gift cards, and the organization charges $5
>> for them. So people are giving $5 to the organization instead of Belk,
>> and then they go to Belk on the designated Saturday and get $5 off.
>> This is most effective if you sell them near the store on that day.
>> One thing my local chapter did was get a local Apple Bee's to do a
>> pancake breakfast for $2 a person. The chapter then sold tickets for
>> $7, and a lot of people heading into work saw the sign and stopped in
>> for breakfast. At school, psi chi has done a couple of fund raisers
>> with restaurants such as Moe's and Buffalo Wild Wings in which you
>> tell people to place their receipts in a bucket by the register and a
>> portion of the profit from each receipt in the bucket at the end of
>> the day goes to the organization. This can be a bit tricky, because it
>> means you have to get people to go out to eat, and sometimes the
>> restaurants aren't very supportive of you going to the restaurant and
>> telling strangers to support you, because it means more money that
>> they are giving the organization. To me, the best fund raisers involve
>> projects that the division does not have to spend a lot of initial
>> money on, but I know this can sometimes be difficult.
>>
>> I know Wall-Mart has a grant for nonprofits, and I know a couple of
>> local chapters in North Carolina have received it to put on various
>> events, but I don't have any personal experience with it.
>>
>> A key thing would be to try to get as many presenters to come for free
>> as you can, or to get NFB members with various expertises to present.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On 11/5/10, Alexander Castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello All, here in New York, we are thinking of having our first
>>> student seminar in a long time. Before we do so, there are a couple of
>>> questions that some of you might be able to assist us with.
>>>
>>> What sort of funding is typically used to put on a seminar? As I
>>> understand things, we are able  to apply for funding from the
>>> Imagination Fund, however, are there additional resources that are
>>> used? Have any of your divisions put together a seminar in which some
>>> participants were sponsored by a  state agency? If so,  what steps did
>>> you take to have these students sponsored?
>>>
>>> What does your typical agenda look like? We are looking at three main
>>> points of focus; these would be Technology, education, and other
>>> useful resources.
>>>
>>> Like most of your states, New York has students spread throughout the
>>> state: What sort of locations are regularly used to hold your
>>> seminars?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>> Alex
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Cindy Bennett
>> uNC Wilmington Psychology major
>>
>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>> 828.989.5383
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:53:38 -0400
>> From: Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] questions from a parent of a blind child
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTi=Sn1589WWcSEyFOBKof0_-dKUsNFB3ttpOra+J at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Thanks for the contact info, but that is old since the division has
>> since fallen apart, but I am waiting to hear back from this mom. I
>> will definitely point her towards the national parent's division.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On 11/5/10, Barbara.Mathews at sce.com <Barbara.Mathews at sce.com> wrote:
>>> ? ? ? ? There is a parent contact listed on the NOPBC website. ?It is
>>>
>>> Kris Shields, President
>>> North Carolina Parents of Blind Children
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>> Phone: (704) 733-0605
>>> E-mail: kshields at carolina.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? I hope you will refer this mom to Kris, and that you will also
>>> meet
>>> with the mom. ?It is so helpful to parents to meet blind adults who can
>>> serve as role models and mentors! ?You can also give her the NOPBC
>>> website
>>> (www.nfb.org/nopbc), which is a starting place for finding resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ? ? ? ?Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com>
>>> To: ? ? ? ?National Asociation of Blind Students <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: ? ? ? ?11/04/2010 02:21 PM
>>> Subject: ? ? ? ?[nabs-l] questions from a parent of a blind child
>>> Sent by: ? ? ? ?nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Today, a woman i had briefly met freshman year approached me.
>>> Apparently, now she has a 2 year old who is blind. She seemed really
>>> positive, and wants to meet with me because she has questions. I want
>>> to take advantage of her positive outlook and point her towards the
>>> right information. I know there is a national parents division, but it
>>> is not active in North Carolina. I know that this is a student list,
>>> but I thought someone could connect me with relevant resources and/or
>>> literature, because I am not that familiar with it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Bennett
>>> uNC Wilmington Psychology major
>>>
>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>>> 828.989.5383
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Bennett
>> uNC Wilmington Psychology major
>>
>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>> 828.989.5383
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:05:47 -0400
>> From: "Ben Schuler" <bschuler45 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>> Message-ID: <000501cb7d4e$bfeccf40$3fc66dc0$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> My HTC Ozone has finally died on me. So, I am really thinking about the
>> new
>> Iphone, but I still am hesitant to purchase the phone because it uses a
>> touch screen.
>>
>> >From everything I have read about the phone, it seems like it would be
>> just
>> as good as the KNFB reader. You can get applications that will identify
>> colors, as well as OCR apps. Does anyone have experience with these apps?
>> How well does Voiceover work with most apps? Do you find that you are able
>> to quickly accomplish tasks using the touch screen, or does it take a
>> little
>> longer?
>>
>> Also, I have not found an application that will identify money. Does
>> anyone
>> know if there is one out there?
>>
>> Any feedback would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Ben Schuler
>> bschuler45 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:18:23 -0700
>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Few questions on Student seminars....
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTinmKG=NPz6wL49OTehPOKyZu1gPCf70KNVKwVoN at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> In california, we have had  our seminars in both northern  and
>> southern california.  The  Student division has had set-up shop in
>> locations such as  our state school for the blind and a  religious
>> college campus.  if you have a larger and well-known college in a
>> larger city (San Francisco  and San Francisco State, or Berkley and
>> University of California  at Berkley, in the case of california), you
>> will find that not only could students who live a distance away find
>> it easier to  access the location by a form of  mass-transit, but, you
>> might even have a pretty good amount of students on campus who   could
>>  pretty much walk out of their dorms and into the seminar.
>>  Getting speakers in the local community/colllege administrators and
>> Federationests who all have unique stories to share that would benifit
>> the population you would idealy have  might be a cost-effective and
>> community building option for  the student division.
>>
>> On 11/5/10, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We hold our seminar in Raleigh. This is a central city that is easy to
>>> get to from the whole state, and most of our leaders in NABS live
>>> there. But I do think that if you start having one every year, moving
>>> it around wouldn't be such a bad idea.
>>>
>>> We try to charge as little as possible for students to come, so that
>>> way more can come, and they can spend other money on transportation.
>>> We colaborate with the local DSB offices, that is division of services
>>> for the blind, not sure what it's called in New York, and some of them
>>> are willing to bring vans of students to the seminar so that
>>> eliminates the transportation costs. That being said, we have not done
>>> an overnight seminar, so we have never had to think about hotel costs
>>> and more than one meal.
>>>
>>> The money we use to run the seminar comes from a yearly fund raiser
>>> that we do. We work with a vendor who graciously donates snacks to us
>>> and make snack packs for our state convention. They are a hit. Some
>>> other popular fund raisers are the Belk days cards. Basically, they
>>> give organizations $5 off gift cards, and the organization charges $5
>>> for them. So people are giving $5 to the organization instead of Belk,
>>> and then they go to Belk on the designated Saturday and get $5 off.
>>> This is most effective if you sell them near the store on that day.
>>> One thing my local chapter did was get a local Apple Bee's to do a
>>> pancake breakfast for $2 a person. The chapter then sold tickets for
>>> $7, and a lot of people heading into work saw the sign and stopped in
>>> for breakfast. At school, psi chi has done a couple of fund raisers
>>> with restaurants such as Moe's and Buffalo Wild Wings in which you
>>> tell people to place their receipts in a bucket by the register and a
>>> portion of the profit from each receipt in the bucket at the end of
>>> the day goes to the organization. This can be a bit tricky, because it
>>> means you have to get people to go out to eat, and sometimes the
>>> restaurants aren't very supportive of you going to the restaurant and
>>> telling strangers to support you, because it means more money that
>>> they are giving the organization. To me, the best fund raisers involve
>>> projects that the division does not have to spend a lot of initial
>>> money on, but I know this can sometimes be difficult.
>>>
>>> I know Wall-Mart has a grant for nonprofits, and I know a couple of
>>> local chapters in North Carolina have received it to put on various
>>> events, but I don't have any personal experience with it.
>>>
>>> A key thing would be to try to get as many presenters to come for free
>>> as you can, or to get NFB members with various expertises to present.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On 11/5/10, Alexander Castillo <alexandera.castillo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello All, here in New York, we are thinking of having our first
>>>> student seminar in a long time. Before we do so, there are a couple of
>>>> questions that some of you might be able to assist us with.
>>>>
>>>> What sort of funding is typically used to put on a seminar? As I
>>>> understand things, we are able  to apply for funding from the
>>>> Imagination Fund, however, are there additional resources that are
>>>> used? Have any of your divisions put together a seminar in which some
>>>> participants were sponsored by a  state agency? If so,  what steps did
>>>> you take to have these students sponsored?
>>>>
>>>> What does your typical agenda look like? We are looking at three main
>>>> points of focus; these would be Technology, education, and other
>>>> useful resources.
>>>>
>>>> Like most of your states, New York has students spread throughout the
>>>> state: What sort of locations are regularly used to hold your
>>>> seminars?
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your answers.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reading,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Bennett
>>> uNC Wilmington Psychology major
>>>
>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>>> 828.989.5383
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Darian Smith
>> Skype: The_Blind_Truth
>> Windows Live: Lightningrod2010 at live.com
>> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/goldengateace
>>
>>
>> ?We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are
>> spiritual beings having a human experience.? - Teilhard de Chardin
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:20:32 -0400
>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>> Message-ID: <81AE66D0F5AF4F819EE3E0A5E3A9C404 at D9P3ZND1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> 	reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi Ben,
>> I can't say enough good things about the iPhone. It does have a bit of a
>> learning curve, but nothing that a week or so can't cure. The majority of
>> the apps I've installed are fully accessible with voiceover. I've used a
>> few
>> of the free recognition apps, and I've had success identifying labels,
>> dollar bills and even print pages.
>> www.blindcooltech.com
>> has many iPhone podcasts. If you can stop in an Apple or AT&T store to get
>> some hands-on experience with the phone before making a purchase you might
>> not feel as intimidated by the phone. The Apple reps I've spoken with are
>> very familiar with Voiceover.
>> Good luck with whatever you choose.
>> Anjelina
>> Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
>> Albert Einstein
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ben Schuler" <bschuler45 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:05 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>>
>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> My HTC Ozone has finally died on me. So, I am really thinking about the
>>> new
>>> Iphone, but I still am hesitant to purchase the phone because it uses a
>>> touch screen.
>>>
>>>>From everything I have read about the phone, it seems like it would be
>>>>just
>>> as good as the KNFB reader. You can get applications that will identify
>>> colors, as well as OCR apps. Does anyone have experience with these apps?
>>> How well does Voiceover work with most apps? Do you find that you are
>>> able
>>> to quickly accomplish tasks using the touch screen, or does it take a
>>> little
>>> longer?
>>>
>>> Also, I have not found an application that will identify money. Does
>>> anyone
>>> know if there is one out there?
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Ben Schuler
>>> bschuler45 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:16:52 -0700
>> From: Darrell Shandrow <darrell.shandrow at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> 	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>> Message-ID: <4CD4BA94.8050003 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hello Ben,
>>
>> Consider not allowing the iPhone's touch screen to intimidate you. If
>> you can play with a friend's iPhone or take a look at one during a visit
>> to the Apple or AT&T Store, I think you might understand what I mean.
>>
>> As of this time, there is still no OCR app for the iPhone that
>> approaches the capabilities of the K-NFB Reader. I am confident,
>> however, there will be one very soon, and the iPhone's other attributes
>> far outweigh, in my opinion, the capabilities of the phone on which the
>> K-NFB Reader is based.
>>
>> There are two free mainstream apps that can quickly identify money. One
>> is called oMoby and the other is called Noogle Noggles. They use the
>> camera to take a snapshot and use a pattern-recognition algorithm to
>> identify objects.
>>
>> You may visit http://blindaccessjournal.com for a demonstration of these
>> two apps, plus a number of navigation apps and adventures with the iPhone.
>>
>> If you have seen an iPhone and are seriously interested in purchasing
>> one, there are many resources available to learn the iPhone.
>>
>> Start by visiting http://applevis.com and check the guides and learn
>> about the apps that are accessible.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Darrell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/5/2010 6:05 PM, Ben Schuler wrote:
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> My HTC Ozone has finally died on me. So, I am really thinking about the
>>> new
>>> Iphone, but I still am hesitant to purchase the phone because it uses a
>>> touch screen.
>>>
>>>> From everything I have read about the phone, it seems like it would be
>>>> just
>>> as good as the KNFB reader. You can get applications that will identify
>>> colors, as well as OCR apps. Does anyone have experience with these apps?
>>> How well does Voiceover work with most apps? Do you find that you are
>>> able
>>> to quickly accomplish tasks using the touch screen, or does it take a
>>> little
>>> longer?
>>>
>>> Also, I have not found an application that will identify money. Does
>>> anyone
>>> know if there is one out there?
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Ben Schuler
>>> bschuler45 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Nicole
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
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>
>
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