[nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users

Sun Nov 7 01:33:49 UTC 2010

It is true that getting used to typing on the iPhone takes time. I really feel as though I didn't become actually efficient with it until I had spent a month or so trying and trying. I don't exactly know if I am faster or slower than I was with the physical keyboard on my old HTC phone, but I am definitely fast enough for texting and writing emails. If I need the phone to type long texts I use a very tiny bluetooth keyboard. This is only to take notes in class or things that would normally require a laptop or something like that. And as other people said, the touch screen is no problem at all. That is actually way faster than navigating any other accessible device. Especially web browsing on the iPhone cannot even be compared with using Mobile Speak, Talks or anything else. Safari on the iPHone just works better in my opinion.
On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hello Nicole,
> 
> Switching between characters and words is also on the rotor. Just place two fingers on the screen and move clockwise or counter-clockwise like a radio dial to select.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Darrell
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/6/2010 4:47 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini wrote:
>> Do you know how to switch vo between words and characters?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Workman"
>> <mworkman.lists at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>> 
>> 
>>> When you're in an edit field, one of the roter settings is called
>>> typing mode. You can then swipe one finger up or down to switch back
>>> and forth between touch typing and standard typing.
>>> 
>>> Marc
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Fernandez"
>>> <trillian551 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> But how do you activate it?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/6/10, Marc Workman <mworkman.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Mary,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the iPhone operating system 4.0, Apple introduced touch typing.
>>>>> Essentially, you put your finger over the desired character, and
>>>>> when you
>>>>> release your finger, the character is entered in the edit field. So
>>>>> you now
>>>>> have the option of standard typing or touch typing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, even with the old operating system, one always had the ability
>>>>> to split
>>>>> tap rather than double tap. Most people I know found split tapping
>>>>> faster
>>>>> than double tapping, and touch typing is still faster than that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marc
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mary Fernandez" <trillian551 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Calling all iPhone users
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>> I had an Iphone for 3 weeks and gave it to my brother. The phone
>>>>>> itself is great. And hte touch screen is absolutely no problem. In
>>>>>> fact I much prefer it to a classic phone. However, double tapping when
>>>>>> texting and writing in general drove me off the wall. I hear there is
>>>>>> an app that you can dictate text to, however, seeing as I didn't
>>>>>> always want ot tell my messages to my phone when in public, I didn't
>>>>>> buy into the idea too much. I'm really disappointed that apple did not
>>>>>> include an option to simple single tap or double tap, as the user
>>>>>> preferred.
>>>>>> Good luck, and like everyone else has pointed out, to to an apple
>>>>>> store and try playing with it.
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/5/10, Darrell Shandrow <darrell.shandrow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Ben,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Consider not allowing the iPhone's touch screen to intimidate you. If
>>>>>>> you can play with a friend's iPhone or take a look at one during a
>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>> to the Apple or AT&T Store, I think you might understand what I mean.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As of this time, there is still no OCR app for the iPhone that
>>>>>>> approaches the capabilities of the K-NFB Reader. I am confident,
>>>>>>> however, there will be one very soon, and the iPhone's other
>>>>>>> attributes
>>>>>>> far outweigh, in my opinion, the capabilities of the phone on
>>>>>>> which the
>>>>>>> K-NFB Reader is based.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are two free mainstream apps that can quickly identify
>>>>>>> money. One
>>>>>>> is called oMoby and the other is called Noogle Noggles. They use the
>>>>>>> camera to take a snapshot and use a pattern-recognition algorithm to
>>>>>>> identify objects.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You may visit http://blindaccessjournal.com for a demonstration of
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> two apps, plus a number of navigation apps and adventures with the
>>>>>>> iPhone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you have seen an iPhone and are seriously interested in purchasing
>>>>>>> one, there are many resources available to learn the iPhone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Start by visiting http://applevis.com and check the guides and learn
>>>>>>> about the apps that are accessible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Darrell
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/5/2010 6:05 PM, Ben Schuler wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My HTC Ozone has finally died on me. So, I am really thinking
>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> Iphone, but I still am hesitant to purchase the phone because it
>>>>>>>> uses a
>>>>>>>> touch screen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From everything I have read about the phone, it seems like it
>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> as good as the KNFB reader. You can get applications that will
>>>>>>>> identify
>>>>>>>> colors, as well as OCR apps. Does anyone have experience with these
>>>>>>>> apps?
>>>>>>>> How well does Voiceover work with most apps? Do you find that you
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to quickly accomplish tasks using the touch screen, or does it
>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> longer?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, I have not found an application that will identify money. Does
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> know if there is one out there?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any feedback would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ben Schuler
>>>>>>>> bschuler45 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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