[nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!

Fri Oct 1 07:18:11 UTC 2010

Hi Nicole and All:

Safeway looks good, but I can't figure out how to browse?
I typed in my zipcode and there isn't one in my area...so I just typed
in the keyword search "chicken marinade" and a bunch of recipes for
different home-made marinades came up.
What I want is a list of bottled/already-made marinades sold in
popular stores such as Kroger or walmart so when I go I have some idea
of what to get.

On doing a google search for "browsing grocery store online" I got
walmart.com grocery but currently it says it's unavailable for
maintinence.

What about amazon grocery?

I don't think there is any delivery grocery services where I live
(although that would be nice) so I'm not looking necessairily for
online grocery shopping per say but just a way to see what some of the
items in the isles are so I can get a better idea of what to get when
I do go to the store that way I don't have to take up the customer
service person's time browsing and having no clue what I want.

Am I missing something with the Safeway site? Can you browse their
groceries without being a member or having a store in your area?

What about Walmart.com grocery and amazon.com grocery? Would those be
my best bet for what I'm looking for?

I didn't see anything like this on Kroger.com except for their weekly ads!

Kerri

On 10/1/10, Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, guys! I think i'm happy with my toaster oven for now but now
> that i know the difference a George Forman grill can definitely be an
> option for the future. And i'm glad to learn that you could use the
> microwave to make scrambled eggs and burger patties-- Will try that
> very soon. This is a great thread:)
>    Katie
>
>
> On 9/30/10, Nicole B. Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Yep, Safeway.com. As a matter of fact, I prefer to do my shopping online.
>>
>> As far as grill verses oven, a grill is basically for flatter things while
>> an oven is for taller things. You grill mainly meat, fish, vegetables, and
>> sometimes buns on a grill where as you bake a lot of other things. Have
>> you
>> ever felt an outdoor grill? If so, an inside is basically like that except
>> for that it runs on electricity rather than gas or charcoal.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> A george Foreman is more like a grill...iit grills things rather than
>>> bakes as a toaster oven does.
>>>
>>> I actually like things done in the oven better as I think food tastes
>>> better in the oven but maybe that's because I've been so limited for
>>> so long that now I've discovered I can make some decent things in the
>>> toaster oven and it won't burn the house down I'm sick of the Foreman
>>> lol.
>>>
>>> I'm sure there is more you can make but I usually use the foreman for
>>> meats...I understand you can make vegetables on it as well but have
>>> never done this.
>>>
>>> To Arielle and others...is there any grocery store websites where I
>>> could possibly somehow browse "virtual" isles online almost as if I'm
>>> going to shop online and maybe get some ideas ahead of time online
>>> then make a final grocery list? I got this idea because I was looking
>>> on kroger.com and they have their weekly ads...their ads can be viewed
>>> in categories and it reminded me of browsing the store. All I saw this
>>> for was the weekly ads but if I could somehow browse a wider variety
>>> online...that would help a ton.
>>>
>>> If it were up to me, I would go to the store and browse all day but I
>>> know you can't do that with a shopping assistant. Without going into a
>>> ton of details and cluttering up this email more than it already
>>> is...I don't have much sighted support...most of the sighted people
>>> around here seem to have the typical feel--sorry attitude so I'm sort
>>> of on my own.
>>>
>>> By the way I have to say...I have one pound of ground beef left...I
>>> took some out of the package, made it into a patty, put it in the
>>> microwave for 4 minutes, turned it over, and fixed it for another 5,
>>> put a slice of american cheese on it, fixed it for another
>>> minute...and fixed myself a real ground beef hamburger. It tasted
>>> exactly as I've had before made on the stove...you would've thought it
>>> had been made on the stove...so yes microwaved browned ground beef is
>>> good...I will try putting it in hamburger helper next. I found
>>> microwave hamburger helper directions! I've been wanting to try making
>>> hamburger helper forever now!
>>>
>>> Kerri
>>>
>>> On 9/30/10, Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Kerry and all,
>>>>   I'm enjoying this thread and appreciate all the cooking tips from
>>>> everyone! I'm a beginner in cooking too so this is very helpful to me.
>>>>   One question out of curiosity: I use a toaster oven and a microwave
>>>> all the time but don't have a George Forman Grill. Is it similar to an
>>>> oven? Does it accomplish the same things? In what situations would you
>>>> use a grill rather than an oven? Thanks!
>>>>    Katie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/30/10, Arielle Silverman <nabs.president at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are tons of bottled or packaged marinades you can get for
>>>>> chicken. Most customer service clerks I've worked with don't mind
>>>>> doing a little browsing, and if you say "I'm looking for a chicken
>>>>> marinade" that's specific enough that they should be able to find the
>>>>> aisle/section with all the premade marinades. Another quick chicken
>>>>> product I really like is "Shake-n-Bake" which is basically just
>>>>> coating that you pour into a ziplock bag, shake the chicken breast in
>>>>> it, and then bake in the oven (toaster oven will work fine). You can
>>>>> get lots of different flavors-I especially like the hot and spicy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also get buffalo/hot sauce, teriyaki sauce, BBQ (as someone
>>>>> else mentioned), salad dressing, etc. There's really a limitless
>>>>> number of ways to season chicken and many of these only require one or
>>>>> two ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, Kroger/King Soopers has some preseasoned chicken breasts you
>>>>> can get that are all ready to be popped in the grill/oven. Look for
>>>>> "marinated chicken brests" in the meat section.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/30/10, Jacob Struiksma <lawnmower84 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I grill chicken on my gorge Forman grill all the time.
>>>>>> From
>>>>>> Jacob Struiksma
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:23 PM
>>>>>> To: Nicole B. Torcolini; National Association of Blind Students
>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tenderloins are user friendly; they're thin and are not as bulky as
>>>>>> chicken
>>>>>> breasts and therfore easier to serve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've only seen chicken cooked in the oven except for sliced up chicken
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> soup.
>>>>>> What chicken dishes are cooked on the stove?  Do you have to turn the
>>>>>> chicken over?  I would think not with a tenderloin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National
>>>>>> Association
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ditto on the tender loins. If you ever decide to cook on the stove, I
>>>>>>> can give you some simple recipes that use the tender loins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:52 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kerri,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never heard of browning beef in the microwave.  Doesn't sound
>>>>>>>> like a good idea.  Even with 93 percent lean meat it generates
>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>> You need it to sizzle and brown in a skillet!  You need to break the
>>>>>>>> lump of meat up and stir while browning!  You cannot do this in a
>>>>>> microwave.
>>>>>>>> If you can't use the stove, then stick to doing beef on the george
>>>>>>>> forman; make hamburger pattys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About eggs, it depends on the microwave.  I tried microwaved eggs
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> don't like them.
>>>>>>>> A table spoon of water or milk?  Doesn't sound accurate to me.
>>>>>>>> Check
>>>>>>>> again!
>>>>>>>> Yes you can add milk or water but I'm not sure as I've not measured
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> But I doubt its a tablespoon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you should heat the eggs a minute and then check on them and
>>>>>>>> then stir, and put them in a little longer, maybe 10 or
>>>>>>>> 15 second intervals.
>>>>>>>> I don't think you will need two minutes.  When I cooked them this
>>>>>>>> amount, they were overcooked!
>>>>>>>> No you don't need to cover the bowl.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About butter its in a stick.  You'll have to ask what the
>>>>>>>> measurements are. The butter stick has markings to indicate what is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> tablespoon etc on the wrapper.
>>>>>>>> Ask what a table spoon is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generally there are eight tablespoons in a stick of butter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sound like we have the same taste buds.  I like brown beef including
>>>>>>>> meatballs and hamburger and ground beef in other recipies.  But I am
>>>>>>>> not comfortable browing beef myself because I don't know when its
>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the bread crumbs follow the recipie.
>>>>>>>> I am no expert but I doubt it would matter what type of bread
>>>>>>>> crumbs.
>>>>>>>> However some bread crumbs are seasoned, so if you don't want that
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> plain ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also  really like chicken, and like you get the boneless skinless
>>>>>>>> chicken breasts; actually I get the tenderloins if cooking for
>>>>>>>> myself; they're smaller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can certainly buy a number of sauces or marinades.  Why not do
>>>>>>>> barbecue sauce for them?
>>>>>>>> I also heard you can cover the chicken in cream of mushroom soup for
>>>>>>>> more taste.
>>>>>>>> You can ask at your store what is available.  What grocery stores
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> near you?  If they're the same as my area or if I know the store
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> I can check on line and give you some ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of this is about what is in your grocery store, personal tastes
>>>>>>>> and experimenting.
>>>>>>>> I have hardly cooked either; I'm novice.  I learned some at the
>>>>>>>> rehab
>>>>>>>> center I went to in state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really think you should ask a friend some of these questions.  For
>>>>>>>> the sauces question and the butter question its as simple as asking
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> person to read the package and browse the grocery store with you and
>>>>>>>> you can figure out what you would like to try.
>>>>>>>> Each store is different so without the names its hard to recommend
>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use barbecue sauce mostly to season chicken so that is what came
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> mind first.
>>>>>>>> If you need some hands on help why can't you get a rehab teacher to
>>>>>>>> come show you some things?  Doesn't your state agency have them?
>>>>>>>> Mine
>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>> I had one or two as a teen and she taught me some real basic skills
>>>>>>>> like pouring and spreading.
>>>>>>>> Rehab teachers teach you to cook and other household activities.
>>>>>>>> Is there a lighthouse for the blind near you?  Many lighthouses
>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>> cooking classes for blind people or can send a teacher out to help
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think its great you asked questions but to be real helpful you
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to have someone show you what to do and maybe go to the store so you
>>>>>>>> know what all is there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <blind-cooks at nfbnet.org>; "National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>>> mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "NFB of West Virginia Discussion List"
>>>>>>>> <nfbwv-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: <k-r at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:44 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] some very beginner, basic cooking questions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am very basic at cooking as I haven't been taught much but wanted
>>>>>>>>> to experiment and try to make a couple of simple-sounding recipes.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> had some questions however, as I am a bit confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I should first begin by saying I can not use the stove at this
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>> I have a crockpot, a George Foreman Grill, a microwave, and a small
>>>>>>>>> toaster oven. However, even with these limitations, I feel I can
>>>>>>>>> make some things. I won't clutter this email with the reasoning. I
>>>>>>>>> am also totally blind, and have no residual vision.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, when a recipe calls for a table spoon of something, does it
>>>>>>>>> mean the measuring spoon (the biggest spoon in the measuring spoon
>>>>>>>>> set) or does it mean one of those larger spoons used at the table
>>>>>>>>> for eating/ocasionally mixing things?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The first recipe I'd like to try making is scrambled eggs in the
>>>>>>>>> microwave. Yes, it can be done, and from the reviews I've read it's
>>>>>>>>> pretty tasty, easy and quick. I am confused though because I have
>>>>>>>>> read several recipes for microwave scrambled eggs and they all say
>>>>>>>>> different things. Some say put the eggs in the microwave for 30
>>>>>>>>> seconds, then mix with a fork/whisk, then put it in for another 10
>>>>>>>>> seconds, mix again, then keep putting it in for 10 second intervals
>>>>>>>>> until the eggs are done. Others however say to put the eggs in the
>>>>>>>>> microwave for 2 minutes, and take the eggs out after one minute and
>>>>>>>>> stir. I like my eggs very thick, and well done; I don't like them
>>>>>>>>> runny. I don't want to overcook the eggs...should I do 30 seconds
>>>>>>>>> then stir at 10 second intervals or put it in for 2 minutes
>>>>>>>>> stirring
>>>>>>>>> at 1 minute intervals?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I like a lot of butter in my eggs. Some recipes say a table
>>>>>>>>> spoon, others say 2 teaspoons (I know the teaspoon is the littlest
>>>>>>>>> spoon so that doesn't sound like much), and others say a small pat
>>>>>>>>> of butter. Do I need to literally measure out a tablespoon or can I
>>>>>>>>> just cut a square pat of butter from the stick? Will it hurt the
>>>>>>>>> eggs at all or affect the taste drastically if I accidentally put
>>>>>>>>> too much butter in?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some recipes say to put a tablespoon of water or milk into the
>>>>>>>>> eggs.
>>>>>>>>> Is this a good idea or will it make them more liquidy/runny? I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> want my eggs to taste rubbery but I don't like them liquidy either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some recipes also say to lightly cover the bowl with the eggs in
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> Does this have to be done? Couldn't I just fix the eggs uncovered?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another recipe I'd like to try is grape jelly meatballs in the
>>>>>>>>> crockpot/slow cooker. These may sound gross, but essentially all
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> do is take frozen meatballs (you can also make your own), a jar of
>>>>>>>>> grape jelly, and a jar of chilli sauce, put it in the crockpot, and
>>>>>>>>> let it go. I've been told they are very good. However, some recipes
>>>>>>>>> say to dump the chilli sauce, meatballs, and grape jelly  in the
>>>>>>>>> crockpot and let it go, while others say the grape jelly and chilli
>>>>>>>>> sauce needs to be mixed well before putting the meatballs in.
>>>>>>>>> Should
>>>>>>>>> I mix the chilli sauce, and grape jelly or just throw it all in?
>>>>>>>>> Once the meatballs finish cooking, Does it affect the taste at all
>>>>>>>>> whether the sauce is mixed or not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of meatballs, sometime I would also like to try baking
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> in the oven. Does it matter which type of breadcrumbs I use? There
>>>>>>>>> are many different types.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I read that browning ground beef is just heating it to a 160
>>>>>>>>> degree temperature so the bacteria are killed off. You can either
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> this in the microwave or the conventional way on a stove. Have any
>>>>>>>>> of you ground beef in the microwave and if done properly does it
>>>>>>>>> taste the same as browning it on the stove?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing I really like is chicken. I usually get the boneless,
>>>>>>>>> skinless frozen chicken breasts. Currently, the only thing I know
>>>>>>>>> how to do with them is to put hot sauce on one, put it on the
>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>> Foreman grill, and cook it for 7 or so minutes. However, this gets
>>>>>>>>> old after a while. Is there any simple marinades or anything I can
>>>>>>>>> buy that I can lather on the chicken, and either bake it or grill
>>>>>>>>> it? I know marinades can be made from scratch but I'm at a very
>>>>>>>>> simple basic level of cooking right now so am just looking for
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>> simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it a good idea to get a talking meat thermometer? Should I just
>>>>>>>>> get the $115 one sold at the Independence market?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am a very literal, over-analytical person who tends to overthink
>>>>>>>>> everything. When I look at recipes, and they all say differing
>>>>>>>>> things, I get confused. Also, when a recipe says to use a bowl, I
>>>>>>>>> can't figure out whether it means a big bowl, a medium-size bowl, a
>>>>>>>>> small bowl, or  a mixing bowl. When it says combine something I
>>>>>>>>> wonder...does that mean to just put the items in the bowl or does
>>>>>>>>> that mean throw the items in the bowl, and mix them? When a recipe
>>>>>>>>> says to mix something, I wonder... with a big mixing spoon, with a
>>>>>>>>> spoon you eat with, a fork, or a whisk. When beginning to first
>>>>>>>>> cook, did you also have these types of problems/questions? How do
>>>>>>>>> you get over this...just with practice and experimentation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much!
>>>>>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Arielle Silverman
>>>>> President, National Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Phone:  602-502-2255
>>>>> Email:
>>>>> nabs.president at gmail.com
>>>>> Website:
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