[nabs-l] Embossing Problem, need any help?
Renee Jones
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> 1. Re: embossing problem: any help? (Dennis Clark)
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> 4. Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS? (Kirt Manwaring)
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> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:02:06 -0700
> From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
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> Hello,
> This is just a guess. I think the handshaking between your printer and
> computer are not set correctly or are not functioning. The computer can
> send data to your printer much faster than your printer can print.
> Handshaking is the way the printer tells the computer once the printers
> buffer is full, to pause sending data until the printer empties its buffer
> and gets caught up. At that point the printer tells the computer that it
> has caught up, so send some more data until the printer again tells the
> computer to stop sending.
>
> There are 2 kinds of handshaking, hardware and software. Hardware
> handshaking is done over 2 wires in the cable which connects to the printer.
> Software handshaking is done by the printer sending a particular computer
> character, control x or control y, to the computer, which essentially says,
> please send data, or please stop sending data until I get caught up.
>
> Both the computer and printer need to be set to use handshaking, and they
> each need to be set to use the same handshaking, either hardware or
> software. Did this ever work correctly, and if so, what might have happened
> which could have cause any settings to have been changed? Please feel free
> to send me more information or questions.
> Best,
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
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>> Hi all,
>> I appologize if this sounds out of topic, but I do need help. I decide to
>> post on this list just to find any possibilities to get any help.
>> I use a desktop computer with Windows XP operating system, Duxbury 10.3,
>> JAWS 10 and Index Basic 4.40 embosser that connects with a LPT port to the
>>
>> computer. I have problem in embossing my files. I use double
>> sided/interpoint format to emboss. When I emboss, the first two pages look
>>
>> fine, but when come to third and fourth page, the embosser embossed
>> something else that's very different from the content of the file. It's
>> unreadable since the dots form neither words or sentences. The fifth and
>> sixth page is fine, but it doesn't continue to emboss those who were not
>> in the third and fourth. It's embossing its continuation. So, it means
>> that I do lose content in third and fourth page. This pattern is
>> repeatedly again: unreadable in the seventh and eighth page, fine in ninth
>>
>> and tenth, and it's on and on. I tried to use Comment Prompt to emboss the
>>
>> file instead of Duxbury, and the similar problem occurs. Any suggestions,
>> ideas and help how to solve this? Any
>> special setting that I should do to avoid this pattern? This never
>> happened when I used Duxbury 10.4. They changed the software without
>> letting me know. This also doesn't happen to one file. It happens to any
>> BRF or DXB files that I have.
>> I look forward to hearing from you very soon. Please give me feetback asap
>>
>> since I need to emboss materials and exercises urgently. Many thanks.
>> Winy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:17:16 -0700
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Fw: math textbook question
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> Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nicole B. Torcolini
> To: solsticesinger
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
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>
> Are you a college student?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: solsticesinger
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
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>
> Rachel,
>
> I would suggest a reader, since it seems the only viable option. You might
> talk to the disability services department at your school, and see if
> they'll put the diagrams into some sort of tactile format for you.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Shannon
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rachel Becker" <Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:15 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] math textbook question
>
>
> What do you do when you have to take a math class and can't find the
> textbook in Braille? I searched the APH Louis database for the book but
> it's
> not there. One source said that it will cost $6000 to get the chapters
> that
> I need Brailled. The state agency suggested that I use a reader. Do you
> think that using a reader would be a good solution for working with
> diagrams? Do you have any sugestions for dealing with a situation like
> this?
> Thanks.
> Rachel
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:14:14 -0600
> From: Mikaela Stevens <mikaelastevens at gmail.com>
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> Yes I am a college student. This math class is for my associates.
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini <
> ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>
>> Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Nicole B. Torcolini
>> To: solsticesinger
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
>>
>>
>> Are you a college student?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: solsticesinger
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] math textbook question
>>
>>
>> Rachel,
>>
>> I would suggest a reader, since it seems the only viable option. You
>> might
>> talk to the disability services department at your school, and see if
>> they'll put the diagrams into some sort of tactile format for you.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Shannon
>> Are you a fan of women's music? If so, check out the Eclectic Collection:
>> A
>> Celebration of Women In Music, each Wednesday evening from 7 to 9
>> eastern.
>> www.radio360.us
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rachel Becker" <Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:15 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] math textbook question
>>
>>
>> What do you do when you have to take a math class and can't find the
>> textbook in Braille? I searched the APH Louis database for the book but
>> it's
>> not there. One source said that it will cost $6000 to get the chapters
>> that
>> I need Brailled. The state agency suggested that I use a reader. Do you
>> think that using a reader would be a good solution for working with
>> diagrams? Do you have any sugestions for dealing with a situation like
>> this?
>> Thanks.
>> Rachel
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:31:00 -0600
> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
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> It's true that incredible progress has been made in terms of social
> attitudes towards blind people. And, I agree that if we're looking at
> other civil rights' movements as a model, we can make so much more
> incredible progress. But I don't ever see a time where negative
> stereotypes about blind people are completely gone. I just don't.
> All the best,
> Kirt
>
> On 9/25/10, Marc Workman <mworkman.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> For me, Kirt, the key sentence in your response is the following:
>>
>> Because we live in such a social world, I think it's fair to say those
>> social attitudes are, unfortunately, a part of blindness in our society.
>>
>> There's a bit of ambiguity here. If you mean such attitudes are a part of
>> our society today, at this moment, then I doubt that many would disagree.
>> But if you mean that such attitudes are necessarily, inevitably, must
>> always
>> be, a part of our society, then this is the point of disagreement I think.
>> I don't think such attitudes are necessarily part of our society. There
>> is
>> evidence drawn from other civil rights movements, and from the organized
>> blind movement itself, that significant progress can be, and still is
>> being,
>> made.
>>
>> So in so far as an article like the one in question fails to emphasize the
>> social barriers that impede the success of blind people, it is problematic
>> and should be questioned and challenged. Note the phrase, in so far as.
>> I
>> don't think anyone is saying that the article can't be helpful in some
>> ways.
>> This article might inspire a blind person who has come to believe that she
>> is inadequate and can't do anything, or the article might cause some
>> employers to judge potential employees based on their skills, as did the
>> employer in the article. However, these possible benefits of such an
>> article do not mean that there aren't serious problems with it as well.
>> Whether an article like this does more harm than good, I'm not sure if any
>> critical comments have claimed, so I think that's still an open question.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
>>
>>
>>> Darrel,
>>> You said exactly what I wanted to. You're just better at it.
>>> Jedi,
>>> Fair enough, but you needed the training, even if the hardest part
>>> was overcoming the stereotypes. Because we live in such a social
>>> world, I think it's fair to say those social attitudes are,
>>> unfortunately, a part of blindness in our society. There's no way a
>>> blind person's not going to encounter those so, to me, that's a part
>>> of blindness. Which means, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you had
>>> stereotypes to get past the typical sighted person does not. In that
>>> way, there was an extra step in you learning how to cook. So...I'm
>>> not trying to generalize how quickly you learn how to cook, I'm just
>>> saying blindness presents an extra challenge with it, even if that
>>> challenge for you was mostly psychological. Am I making any sense?
>>> Respectfully yours,
>>> Kirt
>>>
>>> On 9/25/10, darrel kirby <dkirby at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>> I have been watching this thread closely and I find it very interesting.
>>>> I
>>>> feel that my current employment is rather normal. I strive to do my job
>>>> well. I am currently employed full-time as a therapist within the
>>>> Psychiatric Services Department of a large hospital. I often hear things
>>>> like "you are so amazing" and so on. I know that what I do is quite
>>>> ordinary. I use blind-skills in my life and at my job, but my education
>>>> and
>>>> practice to become a great therapist is not learned through
>>>> instruction/education focused on visual techniques. I do my job well
>>>> and
>>>> strive to be the best therapist I can be, but acknowledge that blindness
>>>> is
>>>> not a significant factor in becoming the therapist I want to become.
>>>>
>>>> However, when I read this article, I was amazed with this woman. I
>>>> thought
>>>> her courage and hard work in overcoming barriers is very impressive. I
>>>> also
>>>> recognize that she has dove into a profession that very few blind people
>>>> have had the courage to explore. I asked a friend of mine about the
>>>> teaching
>>>> approaches of instructors in a Culinary School. He stated that the
>>>> techniques are presented in mostly visual methods, but also recognized
>>>> the
>>>> importance of "hands-on" learning. My point being, I do thing this
>>>> woman's
>>>> ability to gain the skill and knowledge of professional cooking from
>>>> "standard" methods of Culinary Arts instruction is extraordnary. I do
>>>> not
>>>> believe that it takes a "super blind" person to become a blind chef or a
>>>> "super genious" to do what this young woman has accomplished, but I
>>>> think
>>>> from her story that she has a drive and determination that is amazing -
>>>> whether she has sight or not.
>>>> With all that being said, the author of the article should not be
>>>> expected
>>>> to know what it means to be blind by spending a few moments with one
>>>> blind
>>>> person. The over-all theme of the article gave credit to this individual
>>>> and
>>>> her drive to not let her blindness slow her down. Although not the
>>>> perfectly
>>>> written article from a blind person's perspective, it was an
>>>> inspirational
>>>> and educational article to read.
>>>>
>>>> Just My Opinion,
>>>>
>>>> Darrel Kirby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mary Fernandez
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:25 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> Thanks Jedi for the .input I could not have said it better. I truly
>>>> understand how strong and incredible this woman is. Think about it.
>>>> Her primary challenge wasn't so much that she was blind, but her life's
>>>> circumstances, over coming poverty, language barrier, not getting
>>>> appropriate services and such. Add to that her blindness and you really
>>>> have
>>>> to possess a lot of determination to do what she has. But this article
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>> opinion , makes it sound like if it hadn't been for the sighted
>>>> assistants
>>>> and what not, she wouldn't have made it. The whole holding your hands
>>>> out
>>>> and being lost in your own home, and the way they described her
>>>> searching
>>>> for the right knife is just not right. I mean, you don't see many
>>>> articles saying, oh look, Emerald peered closely at his knifes, being
>>>> careful not to touch the blade unless he cut himself. Just my thoughts.
>>>> Mary
>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Jedi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, didn't you happen to notice that the things she could do were
>>>> attributed to some superhuman ability to touch or smell or hear, and
>>>> that
>>>> the writer described her movements around the kitchen at school and home
>>>> in
>>>> much the same way the stereotypical blind person is thought to move
>>>> around
>>>> (helpless, lost, hands out in front of them, etc). That's pretty
>>>> southward
>>>> to me. I doubt that's how Martinez wanted to be portrayed. While the
>>>> article
>>>> doesn't minimize her accomplishments, it's definitely a juxtiposition
>>>> between her real capability and what people really think blindness is
>>>> all
>>>> about. Did you also happen to notice the whole Helen Keller theme where
>>>> Martinez was sort of brought into the world by an ever-patient sighted
>>>> mentor? Hmmmm. I can understand why Andy feels angry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Jedi
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>>> I thought it was excellent. I kept waiting for it to go South but in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> opinion it didn't. I do not think any of us who are totally blind are
>>>> ever
>>>>>> going to impress sighted people more than this woman has done.
>>>>>> Blindness
>>>> is
>>>>>> a disability, even though many blind people argue that it isn't. When
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> hear that argument being made, it is always clear to me that its
>>>> proponent
>>>>>> is trying to convince him or her self of its truth. No sighted person
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> ever going to buy it. This woman is at the top of her game, and for
>>>> those
>>>>>> not familiar with Chicago, this restaurant is extremely exclusive, and
>>>> this
>>>>>> article will do a lot to help us as a group be perceived as having the
>>>>>> ability to be competent despite blindness. Most sighted people know
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> this blind woman is outperforming them, because they themselves could
>>>> never
>>>>>> get a job as a chef at a restaurant like this one.
>>>>>> Happy cooking,
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Andi" <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> i read this article, and was excited about this womans success but
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> angry about how the writer of the article portrayed her! I have also
>>>> been
>>>>>>> rongly portrayed in newspaper articals as I am sure many of you have.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> find news papers like to make a spectical of any one with a
>>>>>>> "disability"
>>>>>>> that does anything remotely normal and even more of a side show of
>>>> someone
>>>>>>> who does something most "able bodied" people would have trouble
>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>> This makes me angry because they take a positive advancement for the
>>>> blind
>>>>>>> and turn it in to a condescension of the blind. How do you all feel
>>>> about
>>>>>>> this and other articals like it. Do you have any sugjestions on how
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> redirect it back to a positive to the world?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blind chef gains national acclaim
>>>>>>> local/article_9884f76e-5023-11df-a9be-001cc4c03286 frame
>>>>>>> local/article_9884f76e-5023-11df-a9be-001cc4c03286 frame end
>>>>>>> the quad-city times
>>>>>
>>>>>>> FORMER MOLINE RESIDENT COOKS AT GOURMET RESTAURANT IN CHICAGO
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blind chef gains national acclaim
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kay Luna | Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2010 2:15 am
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laura Martinez reaches out her hands, delicately running her fingers
>>>> atop
>>>>>>> the kitchen counter and across several sharp knives and a vegetable
>>>>>>> grater.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She isn't afraid of getting cut.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She never does, Martinez says.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Picking up a very large knife, she feels the top of the blade.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "This one is for vegetables," the 25-year-old former resident of
>>>>>>> Moline
>>>>>>> softly says. "It has ridges."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other knife is even longer and heavier. She picks it up,
>>>>>>> explaining
>>>>>>> that this one is called a chef's knife and she uses it to cut meat.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But right now, Martinez needs to dice some fresh parsley. So, she
>>>>>>> feels
>>>>>>> around on the counter again for the cutting board, using her sense of
>>>>>>> touch to make
>>>>>>> sure the parsley is lined up just right.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then, without an ounce of fear, she begins chopping up the parsley
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the fast-moving technique employed by professional chefs - because
>>>>>>> she
>>>> is
>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez works as a chef in the kitchen of Charlie Trotter's, an
>>>> exclusive
>>>>>>> gourmet restaurant in Chicago.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She also happens to be blind.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fast learner gets inspiration
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When Martinez was little, she did not realize she was different from
>>>>>>> anyone else. She thought everyone lived in darkness. She adapted to
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She wanted to become a surgeon someday.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I always liked knives," she said with a smile.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When she got older, she learned that she had been diagnosed with
>>>>>>> retinal
>>>>>>> blastoma, a type of cancer of the eyes, as a very young child. That
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> what caused
>>>>>>> her blindness.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doctors removed one eye. Then the chemotherapy and radiation used to
>>>> treat
>>>>>>> the cancer ultimately ruined the vision in her other eye.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez cannot see anything. She cannot even detect light.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, she cannot remember ever seeing anything at all. She uses
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> active imagination instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She is also a fast learner, which came in handy after spending her
>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>> childhood in a Mexican town that did not have a school for the blind
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>> education classes. The closest school she could have attended was a
>>>>>>> three-hour car ride away.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, she stayed home and never learned to read or write in Spanish,
>>>> English
>>>>>>> or Braille until the family moved to Moline. She began her formal
>>>>>>> education at the
>>>>>>> age of 10.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez caught up eventually, blossoming even more when she reached
>>>>>>> Moline High School and met her one-on-one education aide, Pam
>>>>>>> McDermott.
>>>>>>> The two spent
>>>>>>> every school day together, starting when Martinez was 15, and they
>>>> remain
>>>>>>> very close.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> McDermott spent a lot of time talking to Martinez, describing
>>>>>>> situations
>>>>>>> and reading her books about the blind-and-deaf pioneer Helen Keller
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> other people
>>>>>>> who overcame life's challenges.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez's mother does not speak English. Neither did her late
>>>>>>> father.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> McDermott found herself explaining so many unexpected things to the
>>>> quiet,
>>>>>>> shy teenager - such as what flirting is and how some people have
>>>> different
>>>>>>> skin
>>>>>>> colors. She hated to be the one to tell her, but the subject came up
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez began to dream about her future, but she faced people who
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> her, "You can't do that. You're blind. There's no way," she said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kids would not come near me," Martinez said. "I was afraid to talk
>>>>>>> or
>>>> do
>>>>>>> anything. But I don't give up."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> McDermott's influence helped open a whole new world of possibilities
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> her, Martinez said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She learned to play piano. She moved away to take life-skills classes
>>>> for
>>>>>>> the blind. She took community college classes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She dreamed about becoming a psychologist.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eventually her interest turned to cooking. She figured it might be a
>>>>>>> little like surgery. Why not give it a try?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez knew she would have to work harder than most to
>>>>>
>>>>>>> convince people that she could work as a chef. And she was up to the
>>>>>>> challenge.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I don't give up," she said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Culinary school brings challenges
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez applied to the Le Cordon Bleu Culinary School in Chicago, an
>>>>>>> open-enrollment institution where most people are accepted as
>>>>>>> students
>>>> but
>>>>>>> not everyone
>>>>>>> graduates from the program, said Marshall Shafkowitz, the school's
>>>>>>> vice
>>>>>>> president of academic affairs and student services. The curriculum is
>>>>>>> tough.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So was Shafkowitz, who admits he was "the biggest skeptic" when it
>>>>>>> came
>>>> to
>>>>>>> considering how a blind student could succeed at Le Cordon Bleu. The
>>>>>>> school had
>>>>>>> never enrolled a visually impaired student before Martinez, he said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Initially, he was concerned how her presence in the classroom might
>>>> impact
>>>>>>> the other students' learning. Then he worried about how the teachers
>>>> could
>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>> the same curriculum, without lowering their standards, but do so in a
>>>> way
>>>>>>> that would accommodate her.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> He did not know whether she could handle the fast-paced environment
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> working in a commercial kitchen, which is so much different than
>>>>>>> cooking
>>>>>>> at home.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It's a faster pace, with bigger knives and a lot more fire," he
>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> After watching Martinez at school and witnessing her "drive and
>>>>>>> desire"
>>>> to
>>>>>>> become a chef, Shafkowitz said he was amazed. He said her heightened
>>>> focus
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>> the other senses, in the absence of sight, is her "superpower."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Her sense of touch is amazing," he said. "The only way I can
>>>>>>> describe
>>>> it
>>>>>>> is the touch that a surgeon has when they're working on your organs.
>>>>>>> She
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> has that delicate way with a knife."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "She's not going to let anything hold her back," he added. "I think
>>>> that's
>>>>>>> 90 percent of who Laura is. Nobody's going to tell her no."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The school hired an aide to help her get around. She labeled things
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Braille.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mostly, though, she learned by using her hands to feel everything -
>>>>>>> especially the food she was preparing and cooking. She uses her sense
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> smell to figure
>>>>>>> out which spices to use. She uses both senses to determine whether
>>>>>>> meat
>>>>>>> and other dishes are done.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her favorite culinary class was the one in which she learned how to
>>>> debone
>>>>>>> chicken and take the fat off beef before cutting it into chunks and
>>>>>>> feeding it
>>>>>>> into a grinder. The teacher asked everyone to close their eyes and
>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>> the joints and bones, the meat and the fat. That's how they learned
>>>> where
>>>>>>> and what
>>>>>>> to cut, Martinez said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Fat feels different. It feels slippery, kind of like Jell-O," she
>>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>> "I focus on the smell, sound and the feel."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> An article about the school's first blind student was published in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Chicago Tribune during December, which inspired the "CBS Evening
>>>>>>> News"
>>>> to
>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>> her on national television. During the filming of that segment, CBS
>>>>>>> brought along internationally famous chef Charlie Trotter.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> They hoped he would observe Martinez in the kitchen and maybe give
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> some advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What he ended up giving her was a job offer: to work as a chef at his
>>>>>>> exclusive Charlie Trotter's restaurant in Chicago. No one expected
>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>> least of
>>>>>>> all Martinez.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It's a big honor for me," she said. "It's very exclusive."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rochelle Smith Trotter, a spokeswoman for the Charlie Trotter Corp.,
>>>> said
>>>>>>> Chef Trotter was very taken by Martinez's
>>>>>
>>>>>>> passion for food and her strong determination - "two attributes which
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> utilizes to evaluate any potential team member," she said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martinez graduated Feb. 11 from Le Cordon Bleu. A week later, she
>>>>>>> began
>>>>>>> working at Trotter's, where she is familiarizing herself with the
>>>> kitchen
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> restaurant's French-contemporary gourmet cuisine.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "We use very expensive herbs from all over the world," she said,
>>>> sniffing
>>>>>>> assorted spices in plastic containers at her childhood home in
>>>>>>> Moline.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She kept picking up the spices and putting them down, hunting for
>>>>>>> just
>>>> the
>>>>>>> right one to season the sauce for her lasagna.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Where's the salt?" she asked.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still dreaming
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reaching her arms out in front of her, feeling for walls or other
>>>>>>> obstacles she might bump into, Martinez moves around the kitchen in
>>>>>>> Moline. She is lost
>>>>>>> because her family recently remodeled.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Where is the trash can?" she asks.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She feels around until she finds the sink to wash her hands, which
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> does repeatedly. She needs to stay cleaner than a sighted person, she
>>>>>>> says, for food
>>>>>>> safety and sanitation reasons. That is because she touches the food
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> she cooks a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes she browses cookbooks written in Braille or recorded on CD,
>>>> but
>>>>>>> she likes to make up her own dishes or give her own special twist to
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> old favorite.
>>>>>>> For example, she added grated jalapeno pepper to her lasagna, just to
>>>> give
>>>>>>> it some kick, she said.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> She imagines herself someday opening a restaurant in Miami, offering
>>>>>>> a
>>>> mix
>>>>>>> of French, Italian, Mexican and Asian cuisines. She would call the
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>> La Diosa,
>>>>>>> which, she said, is Spanish for "The Goddess."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> To those who might scoff at the idea, she says, "I'm not giving up."
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skeptics don't discourage her. They just "give me the energy to
>>>>>>> fight,"
>>>>>>> she added.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I just say, 'I have to work harder to show you that I can.' "
>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Jewel S." <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] canes and increasing sensation of blindness
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use my cane while holding someone's arm all the time. However, I
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not consider it "sighted guide" so much as keeping with my friend
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> knows the way...especially since the person who usually does this
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> me is my legally blind boyfriend. I hold his arm for balance
>>>>>>>> primarily, and to keep track of where he is, as I have no peripheral
>>>>>>>> vision. As we walk, he might point things out to me that I would
>>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>>> with my cane no matter what (the mailboxes that stick out at
>>>>>>>> head-height, the wet branches in front of my face, etcetra). I use
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> cane so he can concentrate on where we are going and things in front
>>>>>>>> of us. I find the curbs and steps on my own, and sometimes if the
>>>>>>>> light is too low, I find curbs and such for the both of us, as he is
>>>>>>>> not as good with the cane (lack of practice!).
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I find that if I take someone's arm, I am far less likely to learn
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> route. I have done entire routes on someone's arm that, looking
>>>>>>>> back,
>>>>>>>> I couldn't tell you the first thing. This is partly because of my
>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>> memory, but also because when I hold someone's arm, unless I'm in
>>>>>>>> charge of navigation (which does occur sometimes), I let that work
>>>>>>>> go,
>>>>>>>> and concentrate more on balance, what my cane is finding, and
>>>>>>>> sounds.
>>>>>>>> I can enjoy myself a bit better this way.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Personally, I think holding someone's arm and using a cane at the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> time is perfectly fine. That's just my opinion, so feel free to
>>>>>>>> shoot
>>>>>>>> me down, but that won't stop me from doing it myself! I don't like
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> put all the responsibility on the other person, no matter how good a
>>>>>>>> guide they are...though there is one exception. My O&M instructor
>>>>>>>> would do sighted guide with me to get quickly to a location, and my
>>>>>>>> cane just got in his way, and he was very good at guiding (he better
>>>>>>>> be, since he teaches other people how to be sighted guides, too!),
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> I allow my cane to remain at my side, ready to pull out if I should
>>>>>>>> need it, but I put my trust in him.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/3/10, clinton waterbury <clinton.waterbury at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As far as the cane issue goes, when I was about three years of age,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> started learning how to use the cane.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only problem was that I would flat out refuse to use it until
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>>> was about five.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The travel instructor finally said "Ok, you don't want to use it?
>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> it from you."
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At that point, I tried and faled miserably to walk around without
>>>>>>>>> it!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the day's end, I did get the cane back, and have been using it
>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>> since.
>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys: I'm curious as to is it fine to use a cane while going
>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>> guide with someone? for instance suppose the person whom I'm going
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> never done sighted guide with a blind person, thus doesn't know to
>>>>>>>>>> alert
>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> of steps and the like. So I was thinking that if this technique is
>>>> fine
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> use it can serve two purposes:
>>>>>>>>>> 1.-Be able to go along sighted guide but at the same time being
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> oneself find and sort obstacles the sighted person might not have
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to let us know.
>>>>>>>>>> 2.-Be able to start mapping in our minds the route following, thus
>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> easier to get to know the route by ourselves.
>>>>>>>>>> Also I've got another subject on my mind, thus sending in the same
>>>>>>>>>> email:
>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>>> it normal that when using a cane I have conflict in using it?
>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> the cane is how we get around by ourselves thanks to a bad
>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> studying for a diploma in Humanistic Therapy some years ago in
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wanted to use the cane again after some years of having it
>>>>>>>>>> dusting,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> held
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it in my hand but wasn't able to use it at ease because memories
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> experience came flooding back. fortunately I've been able to work
>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but am curious as to know if this has happened to you guys? It's a
>>>>>>>>>> conflict
>>>>>>>>>> because for one I'm aware that the cane makes us unique as blind
>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> lets us move around by ourselves but also because here in Mexico
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> aren't viewed as equals in some respects, thus when using the cane
>>>>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> the feeling that lets blindness show even more, making the sighted
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> feel ill at ease; speaking from experience in another country when
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the US you guys don't have to cope with these things because of
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> advanced
>>>>>>>>>> you guys are in the work you've done all these years. some day I
>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> able to be like you guys and really live by your standards, thus
>>>> hoping
>>>>>>>>>> these questions bring on a good discussion from which more than
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>> learn something new and enrich the topic of appreciating our roots
>>>>>>>>>> brought
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> on recently.
>>>>>>>>>> Gerardo
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:47:30 -0400
> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Accessible Games
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> I played one of these audio games on the computer and wasn't completely sold
> on it. The soundtrack was fantastic with a great pair of headphones, but
> the game itself wasn't all that flexible. I could be wrong, but I think
> it's name was Tomb or Entombed. Note, however, that my lack of enjoyment
> may have also been owed to my lack of experience playing it. Best of luck
> in helping to expand that field while simultaneously finding some good uses
> for your laboratories.
>
> Joe
>
> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chrys Buckley
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Accessible Games
>
> Hi NABS list,
>
> Do you play or use any accessible, sound-based computer games? If so,
> please tell me about them, as it may help with an accessibility
> project for blind college students. Feel free to do this off-list if
> you prefer at cbuckley at pdx.edu. Tell me all about any games you play!
>
>
> My name is Chrys and I'm a blind biology student working with a
> software company that is trying to create more accessible virtual
> science labs. One of the challenges is that the virtual labs have a
> big visual component, and they aren't fixed like a video that would
> play the same way every time. In these labs, different things happen
> every time, so we are thinking that computer games, which also are
> unpredictable and aren't the same every time you play them, might be a
> good model.
>
> So, if you play any computer games that are accessible and that convey
> the information in non-visual ways, it would be really helpful to the
> development of this project if you could tell me about them. I am just
> not a computer game person myself, so I need your help if you are!
>
> This project is really exciting and will be unveiled at next year's
> Youth Slam!
>
> Thanks,
> Chrys
>
>
>
> http://chrysanthymum.blogspot.com
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What's up Dennis! Thanks for that info about the difference between
Hardware and Sofftware Handshaking. I didn't know that!
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