[nabs-l] Cell phone question

Mon Sep 6 20:57:18 UTC 2010

It's not rumors. It became officially legal one or two months ago. You can look it up on the website of the Library of Congress and others.
On Sep 6, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Jorge Paez wrote:

> Ignasi:
> Not to be argumentative,
> but when did jailbreaking become legal?
> I mean--I know some people who did it while it was not, but I've heard roomers that its legal and never been able to confirm them.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jorge
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> On Sep 6, 2010, at 4:53 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
> 
>> You can buy unlocked iPhones in several countries through their Apple online stores, but you need to have the phone shipped somewhere in that country, so unless you are going to be there at some point, it's not an option. You can also buy iPhones for their full price in Apple retail stores. I know BestBuy will sell it to you too, but I'm not sure if you need to show that you have an existing contract with AT&T to buy it. Basically subsidized phones are only sold with two year AT&T contracts. You can also find unlocked phones on eBay, and obviously buying a phone that comes unlocked from the factory is not illegal in the US. If you use the phone with AT&T, though, and they find out it's an iPhone, they will add an iPhone data plan to your account automatically. Also, the other GSM carrier in the US is T-Mobile, and the iPhone doesn't really work well on T-Mobile's 3G network. At least the iPhone 4 doesn't. You can make calls etc, but I can't remember if you can't use data at all, or
>> you can only use 2G data which is what happens with the iPad when used on T-Mobile's network. Also, it is absolutely legal to jailbreak an iPhone in the United States. It's just that Apple doesn't support it, and will not repair a jailbroken iPhone. This is not a problem because you can always bring the phone to its factory defaults. The truth is that most software available for jailbroken iPhones only is not accessible with VoiceOver, including the Cydia package manager. I would only recommend jailbreaking to a blind user if he/she needs to unlock the phone. And even for that, sighted help is necessary.
>> 
>> Ignasi
>> On Sep 6, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Bill wrote:
>> 
>>> First, jailbreaking is a different process then unlocking. Second,
>>> purchasing the phone in an unlocked condition is not a violation of the
>>> DMCA.  AT&T will also sell you an unlocked version of the phone for the full
>>> value of the device. The last one may not be true any more. What David says
>>> about the iPhone on VZW is true. The phone is incapable of working on
>>> verizon due to the cell technology it is based on. The only way is if Apple
>>> decides to produce a iPhone based on the other technology. As for verizon
>>> phones, I would not recommend anything based on the talks screen reader. It
>>> is only on version 1 and is super buggy. I was tempted to get one of the LG
>>> phones but the screen reader on those does not read the calendering
>>> application.
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, <anjelinac26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've only heard of the iPhone working on either AT&T or tMobile here in the
>>>> states. It will be interesting if Vzw acquires the iPhone .
>>>> As students, have you found other uses for your cell? Has a gps helped
>>>> around campus?
>>>> 
>>>> Anjelina
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 5, 2010, at 11:49 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Not to be argumentative, but I don't think this is true.  Verizon's
>>>> network is CDMA-based, and AT&T's is GSM-based.  So, even if you jail broke
>>>> it, from AT&T, it wouldn't work on Verizon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 10:33 PM 9/5/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> There is a way to get an I-phone on Verizon Wireless, but, its legality
>>>> is in question, so I should probably not say more. But, if you have an
>>>> unlocked I-phone not the newest one, but the older one, you can make it
>>>> work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>
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>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Cell phone question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have Verizon Wireless.  I believe all I phones are from att?  If
>>>>>>> Verizon has one and its fully accessible maybe I'd be willing to look
>>>>>>> into it.
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>> 
>>>>>                     David Andrews:  dandrews at visi.com
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