[nabs-l] Reasonable technology requests from Rehab andsomeothercollege questions

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Tue Apr 26 20:20:07 UTC 2011 

Hi,=20Anmol.

Just=20curious.=20=20I=20saw=20you=20have=20a=20Yahoo=20email=20address.=20=
=20I=20thought=20
Yahoo=20was=20totally=20inaccessible=20to=20screen=20readers,=20and=20I=20u=
sed=20to=20
have=20it=20with=20JAWS.=20=20Totally=20inaccessible!=20Then=20I=20found=20=
out=20that=20
Gmail=20was=20the=20most=20accessible,=20so=20I=20got=20it.=20=20However,=20=
Yahoo=20is=20
accessible=20to=20VoiceOver=20if=20you=20get=20email=20on=20an=20iDevice,=20=
like=20an=20
iPhone=20or=20iTouch.=20=20We=20tried=20it=20out=20on=20my=20mom's=20iTouch=
.=20=20But=20it=20
didn't=20say=20it=20was=20sent=20from=20any=20iDevice.=20=20So,=20what=20do=
=20you=20use=20for=20
your=20email?

Chris=20Nusbaum

"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp=20Abilit=
ies=20motto)

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Anmol=20Bhatia=20<anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2025=20Apr=202011=2009:12:03=20-0700=20(PDT)
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Reasonable=20technology=20requests=20from=20Reh=
ab=20
andsomeothercollege=20questions

Good=20points=20Arielle.
The=20only=20thing=20I=20would=20add=20is=20to=20keep=20consideration=20tha=
t=20our=20
technology=20is=20expensive=20and=20I=20would=20hate=20for=20any=20of=20it=
=20to=20come=20up=20
missing=20or=20stolen.=20=20So=20maybe=20at=20first=20unless=20you=20know=20=
someone=20and=20
can=20trust=20that=20person=20get=20a=20single=20room=20until=20you=20get=20=
there=20and=20
get=20to=20know=20others=20and=20have=20made=20friends.=20=20Maybe=20second=
=20semester=20
or=20second=20year
you=20can=20get=20a=20roommate=20with=20someone=20you=20know.
Anmol
I=20seldom=20think=20about=20my=20limitations,=20and=20they=20never=20make=
=20me=20sad.=20=20
Perhaps=20there=20is=20just=20a=20touch=20of=20yearning=20at=20times;=20but=
=20it=20is=20
vague,=20like=20a=20breeze=20among=20flowers.
Hellen=20Keller


---=20On=20Mon,=204/25/11,=20Arielle=20Silverman=20<nabs.president at gmail.co=
m>=20
wrote:

=20From:=20Arielle=20Silverman=20<nabs.president at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Reasonable=20technology=20requests=20from=20=
Rehab=20
andsomeother=20college=20questions
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=
=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date:=20Monday,=20April=2025,=202011,=2012:24=20AM
=20Hi=20Jordan=20and=20all,

=20When=20I=20applied=20to=20college,=20because=20of=20advice=20from=20my=20=
DSS
=20counselor=20and
=20encouragement=20from=20my=20parents,=20I=20disclosed=20on=20the=20housin=
g
=20application
=20that=20I=20was=20blind.=20=20I=20was=20assigned=20a=20single=20room,=20a=
nd
=20initially=20I=20was
=20assigned=20a=20handicapped-accessible=20room.=20=20I=20fought=20to=20get=
=20a
=20non-handicapped=20room,=20but=20decided=20to=20keep=20the=20single
=20because=20I=20feared
=20that=20my=20technology=20would=20crowd=20out=20a=20roommate.=20=20As=20i=
t=20turned
=20out,=20I
=20brought=20a=20Braille=20printer=20that=20I=20didn't=20ever=20use.=20=20I=
f=20I
=20could=20do=20it
=20over=20again,=20I=20would=20never=20have=20told=20housing=20that=20I=20h=
ad=20a
=20"disability"
=20or=20requested=20a=20single.=20=20I=20made=20an=20effort=20to=20socializ=
e=20with
=20my
=20floormates,=20but=20still=20I=20felt=20I=20didn't=20quite=20click=20with=
=20the
=20other=20girls
=20on=20my=20floor=20and=20I=20really=20think=20if=20I'd=20have=20had=20a=20=
roommate
=20it=20would
=20have=20been=20a=20lot=20easier=20to=20get=20in=20the=20social=20swing.
=20Nowadays,=20most
=20college=20students=20come=20with=20a=20computer=20of=20some=20sort=20and=
=20I
=20think=20many
=20also=20bring=20a=20printer.=20=20You=20can=20get=20a=20scanner=20that's
=20integrated=20into
=20your=20printer,=20so=20if=20you=20have=20a=20scanner/printer,=20a=20comp=
uter
=20and
=20screen-reading=20software,=20you=20really=20have=20no=20more=20equipment=

=20than=20your
=20sighted=20dorm-mates=20will=20have.=20=20Even=20if=20you=20splurge=20and=
=20also
=20get=20a
=20Braille=20Note,=20Pac=20Mate=20or=20other=20portable=20notetaker,=20it=20=
can
=20easily=20fit
=20on=20your=20desk,=20and=20if=20you=20bring=20a=20laptop=20or=20netbook,=
=20your
=20equipment=20is
=20even=20more=20compact.=20=20So=20don't=20worry=20about=20any=20special
=20housing
=20accommodations,=20unless=20perhaps=20if=20you=20have=20a=20guide=20dog.

=20Arielle

=20On=204/24/11,=20Nicole=20B.=20=20Torcolini=20at=20Home=20
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com
=20wrote:
=A0=20=A0=A0=A0I=20just=20want=20to=20make=20a=20few
=20points.

=20The=20notetakers=20are=20definitely=20catching=20up=20on=20the
=20technology,=20but=20there=20are
=20still=20things=20that=20you=20can=20and=20will=20need=20to=20do=20on=20a=

=20computer=20that=20you=20cannot
=20do=20on=20a=20notetaker.=20=20One=20of=20these=20things=20is=20formattin=
g.
=20Teachers=20in=20secondary
=20school=20tend=20to=20be=20much=20more=20relaxed=20about=20formatting,
=20but,=20in=20college,=20what
=20passed=20in=20secondary=20school=20probably=20will=20not=20pass=20in
=20college.=20=20I=20hardly=20ever
=20turn=20any=20thing=20in=20directly=20from=20my=20BrailleNote.

=A0=20=A0=A0=A0I=20don't=20think=20that=20the=20person
=20was=20using=20the=20Braille=20display=20*instead*=20of
=20VoiceOver.=20=20I=20don't=20know=20how=20it=20works=20on=20Apple
=20products,=20but=20I=20know=20that,=20on
=20windows=20computers,=20you=20have=20to=20have=20a=20screen=20reader=20to=

=20act=20as=20a=20driver=20for=20a
=20Braille=20display.

=A0=20=A0=A0=A0To=20answer=20the=20question=20of=20why
=20you=20would=20need=20both=20speech=20and=20Braille,
=20some=20things=20are=20easier/faster=20to=20do=20listening=20and=20some
=20are=20better=20done=20with
=20Braille.=20=20For=20example,=20I=20would=20find=20it=20very=20hard=20to
=20listen=20to=20math.=20=20On=20the
=20other=20hand,=20I=20can=20understand=20JAWS=20talking=20a=20lot=20faster=

=20than=20I=20can=20read,=20so=20I
=20listen=20to=20things=20for=20which=20it=20is=20not=20critical=20that=20I=

=20know=20every=20little
=20punctuation=20mark.

=A0=20=A0=A0=A0One=20last=20comment=20about
=20emailing=20work.=20=20In=20college,=20most=20things=20are=20not=20in
=20a=20format=20that=20can=20be=20read=20on=20the=20BrailleNote.=20=20Most
=20professors=20use=20PDF.=20=20Some
=20use=20PowerPoint.=20=20Very=20few=20use=20word=20documents.=20=20Even=20=
if
=20they=20do,=20most=20use=20docx
=20files=20and/or=20files=20with=20formatting=20that=20the=20bn=20does
=20not=20support.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Chris=20Nusbaum"=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20<davidb521 at gmail.com>;
=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing
=20list"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20April=2024,=202011=208:26=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Reasonable=20technology=20requests
=20from=20Rehab=20andsomeother
=20college=20questions


=20Hi,=20guys.

=20Just=20a=20few=20thoughts=20on=20David's=20suggestions.=A0
=20I=20agree=20with=20your=20comment
=20about=20the=20laptop=20vs=20the=20notetaker.=A0=20With=20the
=20newer=20versions=20of=20the
=20notetakers=20like=20the=20Braille-Note=20Apex=20that=20I=20have,
=20you=20can=20do=20most
=20anything=20that=20you=20could=20on=20a=20computer=20with=20your
=20notetaker=20as=20it's=20all
=20computer=20technology=20now=20instead=20of=20PDA
=20technology.=A0=20However,=20if=20you're
=20doing=20a=20Internet=20research=20project=20or=20something,
=20the=20more=20tools=20in=20your
=20toolbox,=20the=20better.=A0=20I=20know=20that=20some=20sites
=20are=20accessible=20to=20screen
=20readers=20but=20not=20to=20notetakers,=20and=20vice
=20versa.=A0=20So=20I=20would=20reccomend
=20definitely=20seeing=20if=20you=20can=20get=20both.=A0=20Now
=20keep=20in=20mind,=20as=20I=20said
=20before,=20rehab=20probably=20isn't=20going=20to=20get=20all=20the
=20technology=20you=20need=20for
=20you,=20but=20you=20never=20know.=A0=20You=20might=20need
=20another=20funding=20source,=20like=20a
=20Lions=20club=20or=20another=20foundation=20like=20the=20I=20CAN
=20Foundation=20that=20I
=20mentioned=20in=20the=20last=20email=20to=20you.=A0=20On=20the
=20display=20vs=20notetaker=20and
=20Braille=20embosser=20topics,=20I=20would=20suggest=20a
=20notetaker=20over=20a=20Braille
=20display=20for=20its=20portability=20and=20convenience.=A0
=20I=20would=20reccomend=20a
=20Braille-Note=20Apex=20over=20the=20Braille-Sense,=20based=20on
=20what=20I've=20heard=20about
=20the=20Braille-Sense.=A0=20However,=20one=20of=20the=20NFB
=20executives=20was=20showing=20me=20a
=20Braille=20display=20called=20RefreshaBraille=20from=20APH,
=20which=20he=20uses=20for=20his
=20iPod=20instead=20of=20VoiceOver.=A0=20It=20really=20doesn't
=20matter,=20in=20my=20opinion,
=20whether=20you=20get=20a=20screen=20reader=20for=20your=20computer
=20or=20a=20Braille=20display.
=20It=20really=20serves=20the=20same=20purpose.=A0=20If=20you
=20have=20a=20screen=20reader,=20it's
=20already=20reading=20the=20screen,=20so=20why=20would=20you=20need
=20a=20Braille=20display,=20and
=20vice=20versa?=20On=20the=20Braille=20embosser,=20it=20all=20comes
=20down=20to=20individual
=20preference.=A0=20I=20used=20to=20love=20hardcopy=20Braille
=20until=20I=20got=20the=20Apex.=A0=20Now=20my

=20teachers=20email=20homework=20or=20classwork=20to=20me=20and=20I
=20detach=20it=20right=20onto=20my
=20Braille-Note.=A0=20I=20also=20email=20my=20teachers
=20homework=20as=20attachments=20to=20emails
=20instead=20of=20printing=20them=20out=20and=20labeling=20them=20in
=20Braille,=20which=20saves=20a
=20lot=20of=20time.=A0=20I=20also=20use=20the=20good=20old=20thumb
=20drive=20all=20the=20time=20in=20school.
=20What's=20awesome=20about=20that=20is=20that=20in=20the=20middle=20of
=20class,=20my=20teacher=20will
=20say=20"Chris,=20I=20need=20your=20thumb=20drive=20to=20put=20a=20paper
=20on=20it=20for=20today."=20If
=20he/she=20has=20an=20electronic=20copy=20in=20their=20computer=20of
=20the=20worksheet,=20they=20can

=20stick=20it=20on=20my=20thumb=20drive=20and=20I=20can=20import=20it
=20into=20the=20notetaker.=A0=20It's=20a

=20life=20saver!=20But=20if=20you=20prefer=20hardcopy=20Braille,
=20it's=20a=20louder=20process=20and
=20you'll=20use=20a=20lot=20more=20paper,=20but=20it's=20whatever=20you
=20prefer.=A0=20If=20you=20have
=20any=20more=20questions,=20let=20me=20and=20the=20list
=20know.=A0=20Good=20luck!

=20Chris=20Nusbaum

=20"A=20loss=20of=20sight,=20never=20a=20loss=20of=20vision!"=20(Camp
=20Abilities=20motto)

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20David=20<davidb521 at gmail.com
=20To:=20"'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students
=20mailing=20list'"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2024=20Apr=202011=2020:38:29=20-0500
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Reasonable=20technology
=20requests=20from=20Rehab=20and
=20someother=20college=20questions

=20Hi,=20Jordyn.=A0=20Here=20are=20some=20things=20to=20keep=20in
=20mind.=A0=20Definitely=20try=20to=20get
=20a
=20laptop=20with=20a=20screen=20reader.=A0=20I=20know=20that
=20some=20agencies=20may=20not=20purchase
=20computers,=20but=20rather=20the=20adaptive=20devices=20like
=20screen=20readers,
=20notetakers,
=20etc.=A0=20But=20there=20are=20always=20exceptions,=20it
=20seems.=A0=20You'll=20want=20a=20powerful
=20computer=20with=20quite=20a=20bit=20of=20ram=20and=20processing
=20speed,=20as=20well=20as=20a
=20decently
=20sized=20hard=20drive.=A0=20As=20for=20OCR,=20if=20you're
=20reasonably=20good=20with=20computers,
=20look
=20in=20to=20OmniPage,=20which=20is=20a=20mainstream=20OCR=20solution
=20with=20excellent=20OCR
=20accuracy.=A0=20I=20believe=20that=20it=20might=20be=20better
=20than=20Kurzweil=20and=20OpenBook,
=20and
=20you=20should=20be=20able=20to=20get=20it=20for=20less=20than
=20$200.=A0=20Be=20aware=20that=20OmniPage
=20is
=20not=20quite=20as=20easy=20to=20learn=20as=20OpenBook=20and
=20Kurzweil,=20but=20if=20you=20are=20a
=20decent
=20computer=20user,=20you'll=20have=20little=20trouble=20with
=20it.=A0=20As=20for=20the=20Braille
=20display=20and=20notetaker,=20I=20would=20personally
=20recommend=20a=20notetaker=20with
=20Braille
=20output,=20since=20it's=20very=20portable,=20and=20you=20can=20just
=20open=20it=20and=20take=20notes
=20immediately,=20rather=20than=20waiting=20for=20the=20laptop=20to
=20boot=20up.=A0=20I'd=20get=20the
=20notetaker=20before=20the=20Braille=20display,=20since=20most
=20notetakers=20can=20act=20as
=20Braille=20displays.=A0=20However,=20I=20don't=20think
=20it's=20as=20convenient=20as=20a
=20dedicated
=20Braille=20display.=A0=20Maybe=20they'll=20get=20you
=20both.=A0=20A=20Braille=20embosser=20would=20be
=20nice,=20but=20they=20can=20be=20loud=20depending=20on=20the=20model,
=20and=20that=20may=20be=20a
=20problem
=20in=20a=20dorm=20setting.=A0=20But=20if=20you=20really=20like
=20using=20hard-copy=20Braille,=20then
=20do
=20try=20getting=20one.=A0=20It=20would=20be=20preferable=20than
=20having=20to=20schedule=20time=20to
=20use
=20the=20university's.=A0=20Those=20are=20my=20thoughts.
=20David
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
=20On
=20Behalf
=20Of=20Jordyn=20Castor
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20April=2024,=202011=207:09=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing
=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Reasonable=20technology=20requests
=20from=20Rehab=20and=20some=20other
=20college=20questions

=20Hi=20again=20guys!
=20I'm=20going=20to=20college=20in=20the=20fall,=20as=20I=20already
=20said=20yesterday.=A0=20This=20is
=20why=20I=20have=20so=20many=20questions!=20I=20just=20want=20to=20be
=20sure=20I'm=20doing
=20everything=20right,=20and=20what=20better=20way=20to=20do=20this
=20then=20asking=20other=20blind
=20students?=20:)=20So,=20thanks=20for=20all=20your=20great=20advice
=20on=20everything!
=20My=20other=20question=20is,=20what=20are=20reasonable=20things
=20to=20ask=20Rehab=20for=20in=20the
=20way=20of=20technology?
=20I'm=20thinking=20a=20laptop,=2040=20cell=20braille=20display,
=20Window=20Eyes,=20and=20a
=20printer=20scanner=20combo=20thinggy=20with=20software=20like
=20OpenBook=20or=20Kurzweil.=A0=20I
=20don't=20know=20if=20I'd=20get=20a=20notetaker=20though=20as=20these
=20are=20super=20expensive.
=20lol=20Any=20suggestions=20or=20other=20things=20you'd=20ask=20for?
=20What=20are=20you=20all
=20using=20as=20far=20as=20technology=20in=20college?
=20My=20college=20also=20has=20a=20place=20where=20I=20can,=20I=20think,
=20borrow=20technology=20like
=20an=20embosser=20or=20Braille=20Display.=A0=20Should=20I=20use
=20that=20rather=20than=20asking
=20rehab=20for=20some=20of=20the=20things=20like=20the=20display=20and
=20the=20printer?=20I=20think
=20it=20would=20be=20awesome=20to=20have=20a=20printer=20in=20my=20dorm
=20though=20lol!
=20Oh,=20speaking=20of=20dorms,=20do=20most=20of=20you=20have=20a
=20roommate=20or=20a=20single=20room?
=20A=20lot=20of=20my=20blind=20friends=20seem=20to=20have=20single
=20rooms=20because=20of=20the
=20expensive=20technology,=20but,=20I=20want=20a=20roommate,=20I
=20think.=A0=20lol=20Thoughts?
=20Anyway,=20I'll=20stop=20rambling!=20:)
=20Thanks=20again,
=20Jordyn

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=20--
=20Arielle=20Silverman
=20President,=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students
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