[nabs-l] Blindness, Loss, and Therapy
Beth
thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 03:29:27 UTC 2011
I=20don't=20think=20blind=20people=20should=20not=20have=20to=20have=20ther=
apy.=20=20I=20
have=20therapy,=20however,=20for=20a=20different=20reason.=20=20But=20you=20=
could=20say=20
it=20was=20related=20to=20blindness.=20=20My=20parents=20from=20an=20early=
=20age=20
embarrassed,=20sheltered,=20and=20otherwise=20tried=20to=20uproot=20my=20
childhood.=20=20I=20could=20not=20comee=20to=20terms,=20for=20instance,=20w=
ith=20the=20
reality=20behind=20who=20I=20was.=20=20My=20mother=20wanted=20to=20make=20m=
e=20a=20real=20
person,=20understand=20that=20being=20real=20meant=20accepting=20that=20you=
are=20
"negative"=20or=20"bad"=20in=20some=20way.=20=20Blindness=20was=20seen=20as=
=20a=20bad=20
thing=20in=20the=20household.=20=20Because=20I=20was=20told=20I=20acted=20p=
oorly,=20I=20was=20
hidden=20fro=20the=20public=20eye,=20then=20was=20thrown=20at=20counselors=
=20and=20told=20
that=20I=20was=20the=20broken=20child.=20=20My=20parents,=20however,=20do=20=
not=20know=20
this,=20but=20family=20dynamics=20were=20the=20reason=20I=20was=20on=20medi=
cations=20
and=20therapy.=20=20Both=20do=20not=20help=20much=20because=20right=20now,=
=20my=20current=20
doc=20is=20too=20far=20away=20for=20me=20to=20see.=20=20She=20lives=20and=20=
works=20way=20down=20
in=20Centennial,=20while=20I=20live=20in=20East=20Denver=20now.=20=20I=20ne=
ed=20a=20doc=20
here=20in=20Denver,=20but=20it=20appears=20the=20Medicaid=20came=20through.=
=20=20Blind=20
people=20should=20not=20have=20to=20have=20this=20kind=20of=20hassle.=20=20=
Psychiatrists=20and=20therapists=20are=20not=20there=20to=20fix=20one=20per=
son.=20=20
They=20should=20fix=20the=20family,=20not=20the=20person.=20=20It's=20like=
=20a=20doctor=20
who=20treats=20countries,=20not=20patients.
Beth
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Arielle=20Silverman=20<arielle71 at gmail.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Thu,=2018=20Aug=202011=2021:03:41=20-0600
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Blindness,=20Loss,=20and=20Therapy
Hi=20Ashley=20and=20all,
Yes,=20the=20traditional=20loss=20models=20do=20resonate=20with=20many=20pe=
ople's
initial=20experiences=20with=20blindness,=20and=20they=20aren't=20totally
defeatist-they=20do=20allow=20for=20the=20blind=20person=20to=20eventually=
=20come=20
to
acceptance=20over=20time.=20The=20major=20problem=20with=20them=20is=20the=
=20notion=20
that
people=20won't=20be=20able=20to=20succeed=20in=20rehabilitation=20until=20t=
hey've=20
spent
some=20time=20wallowing=20in=20depression.=20Deliberately=20waiting=20to=20=
offer
rehabilitation=20training=20until=20the=20individual=20has=20been=20blind=20=
and
depressed=20for=20a=20while=20carries=20the=20obvious=20risk=20of=20making=
=20the
depression=20and=20sense=20of=20helplessness=20worse.
I=20think=20the=20discussion=20here=20brings=20up=20an=20interesting=20ques=
tion:=20
Should
training=20centers=20for=20the=20blind=20provide=20counseling=20or=20
psychotherapy
either=20as=20an=20optional=20service,=20or=20as=20a=20required=20part=20of=
=20the
curriculum.=20I'm=20not=20sure=20of=20the=20best=20answer=20to=20that.=20Ce=
rtainly=20
many
students=20at=20centers=20would=20benefit=20from=20counseling-about=20blind=
ness
issues=20or=20unrelated=20problems-but=20should=20everyone=20be=20presumed=
=20to=20
need
counseling?=20Is=20having=20a=20counselor=20or=20psychologist=20on=20the=20=
center=20
staff
a=20good=20idea=20or=20does=20it=20promote=20the=20notion=20that=20blind=20=
people=20all=20
need
therapy?=20I'd=20be=20curious=20to=20hear=20your=20opinions=20on=20this.
Just=20as=20an=20aside,=20the=20summer=20camp=20for=20the=20blind=20I=20men=
tioned=20
earlier
did=20have=20weekly=20group=20counseling=20as=20part=20of=20its=20programmi=
ng.
Personally,=20I=20thought=20it=20was=20totally=20bogus,=20and=20in=20retros=
pect=20I
realize=20that=20was=20probably=20because=20we=20rarely=20discussed=20blind=
ness=20
or
other=20related=20experiences=20in=20the=20group.=20Sometimes=20we=20did=20=
discuss
common=20experiences=20and=20challenges=20with=20adolescence,=20but=20becau=
se=20
we
were=20all=20so=20different,=20I=20didn't=20really=20feel=20like=20I=20was=
=20sharing
meaningful=20ideas=20with=20my=20peers=20about=20common=20issues.=20I=20pro=
bably=20
derived
more=20therapeutic=20benefit=20from=20commiserating=20about=20
blindness-related
issues=20with=20blind=20friends=20in=20late-night=20phone=20calls=20than=20=
I=20did=20in=20
the
group.=20It=20also=20seemed=20a=20bit=20weird=20to=20be=20in=20group=20ther=
apy=20
generally.
But,=20perhaps=20if=20done=20right=20this=20kind=20of=20peer=20support=20gr=
oup=20could=20
offer
some=20benefit.
Arielle
On=208/16/11,=20bookwormahb at earthlink.net=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20
wrote:
=20Arielle,
=20I'd=20like=20to=20read=20a=20little=20of=20his=20book=20even=20though=20=
I=20won't=20agree=20
with=20Mr.
=20Carroll.
=20No,=20probably=20not=20all=20of=20it,=20but=20a=20little=20to=20hear=20s=
traight=20from=20
the=20source.
=20Good=20post=20that=20seemed=20objective.=20I,=20too,=20have=20heard=20th=
eories=20on=20
adjustment
=20to=20blindness.
=20Yes=20such=20a=20loss=20theory=20does=20oversimplify=20the=20situation.=
=20But=20to=20
me=20it=20makes
=20some=20sense;=20although=20you=20are=20right=20that=20someone=20may=20ge=
t=20over=20the=20
denial=20and
=20depression=20if=20their=20family=20is=20supportive=20and=20encourages=20=
them=20to=20
move=20on=20and
=20get=20blindness=20skills.
=20People=20cope=20with=20losses=20differently=20and=20as=20with=20any=20lo=
ss=20your=20
environment
=20and=20personal=20attitude=20helps=20you=20overcome=20such=20a=20loss.
=20I've=20certainly=20met=20people=20going=20through=20vision=20loss=20and=
=20yes=20they=20
are
=20depressed=20a=20little=20bit.=20Imagine=20losing=20vision=20and=20knowin=
g=20you=20
will=20have=20to
=20give=20up=20your=20driver's=20license?
=20Can=20you=20imagine=20reading=20the=20paper=20or=20browsing=20magazines=
=20and=20then=20
no=20longer
=20being=20able=20to=20read=20the=20paper=20at=20breakfast=20or=20browse=20=
the=20news=20
stand=20and
=20magazine=20stand?
=20These=20are=20two=20big=20losses=20for=20someone=20who=20had=20full=20vi=
sion=20or=20
enough=20vision=20to
=20function=20in=20a=20sighted=20manner.
=20Yes=20we=20can=20get=20around;=20but=20public=20transit=20has=20a=20lot=
=20to=20be=20
desired;=20and=20if
=20you=20want=20to=20go=20out=20on=20weekends,=20well=20most=20buses=20do=20=
not=20run=20on=20
weekends.=20Heck
=20most=20buses=20stop=20running=20at=20mid=20evening.
=20American=20society=20really=20does=20not=20make=20public=20transit=20a=20=
priority!=20
We=20as=20a
=20society=20favor=20the=20driver;=20so=20giving=20up=20those=20car=20keys=
=20is=20a=20huge=20
loss.
=20Then=20there=20is=20reading.=20Most=20books=20are=20not=20produced=20in=
=20
alternative=20format;
=20most=20newspapers=20are=20not=20accessible=20either.
=20As=20someone=20who=20was=20legally=20blind=20for=20their=20life,=20I
=20am=20used=20to=20these=20constraints.=20I=20never=20browsed=20the=20clot=
hes=20rack=20
or=20the=20news
=20stand;=20I=20never=20picked=20up=20the=20local=20Journal=20or=20Gazette=
=20and=20read=20
it.
=20So=20for=20me,=20its=20life,=20nothing=20I've=20missed.=20But=20if=20you=
=20have=20RP=20and=20
read=20or
=20drove=2020=20years,=20I=20can=20understand=20that=20it=92s=20a=20loss.=20=
Can=20you=20adapt=20
and=20go=20on
=20with=20life?
=20Of=20course=20you=20can.=20But=20I=20can=20see=20why=20the=20loss=20is=20=
a=20prevalent=20
theory.=20=20I=20know
=20people=20who=20are=20going=20through=20vision=20loss=20due=20to=20RP=20o=
r=20something=20
and=20its
=20hard.=20Even=20if=20they=20embrace=20learning=20new=20skills,=20its=20ha=
rder.=20For=20
instance,
=20some=20of=20them=20lack=20the=20finger=20sensativity=20to=20feel=20the=20=
braille=20
dots;=20they=20can
=20read=20slowly=20or=20they=20cannot=20read=20at=20all.
=20Anyway,=20the=20staff=20at=20Carroll=20seemed=20up=20beat=20and=20nice.=
=20They=20gave=20
the=20youth
=20age=20appropriate=20experiences=20and=20an=20introduction=20to=20blindne=
ss=20
sports=20and
=20daily=20living.
=20No=20one=20implied=20blindness=20was=20a=20bad=20thing=20to=20us=20stude=
nts.=20=20I=20
guess=20some=20staff
=20members=20still=20hold=20that=20loss=20theory=20in=20their=20heads=20tho=
ugh;=20they=20
certainly
=20did=20not=20show=20it.
=20Father=20Carroll=20founded=20it=20and=20died=20a=20long=20time=20ago.=20=
I'm=20not
=20sure=20how=20much=20the=20center=20is=20the=20same=20now.=20There=20is=20=
certainly=20new=20
staff=20and
=20probably=20new=20ideas=20in=20the=20current=20center.
=20No=20it=20its=20not=20NFB=20philosophy.=20Just=20saying=20they=20might=20=
have=20a=20more=20
positive
=20attitude=20and=20higher=20expectations=20than=20the=20founder=20did.
=20Okay,=20I'll=20go=20get=20the=20book=20this=20week.=20=20Can't=20read=20=
all=20of=20it;=20I=20
might=20get
=20depressed.
=20Ashley
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Arielle=20Silverman
=20Sent:=20Tuesday,=20August=2016,=202011=2010:43=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Blindness=20a=20dying?
=20Hi=20all,
=20Interesting.=20I=20didn't=20realize=20the=20founder=20of=20the=20Carroll=
=20Center=20
was
=20the=20same=20guy=20who=20wrote=20"Blindness:=20What=20it=20Is,=20What=20=
it=20Does=20and=20
How=20to
=20Live=20with=20It".=20I=20haven't=20actually=20read=20the=20book=20myself=
,=20but=20I=20
have
=20read=20other=20articles=20who=20have=20cited=20it,=20and=20in=20fact=20I=
=20read=20up=20
quite=20a
=20bit=20on=20Carroll's=20philosophy=20as=20part=20of=20a=20grant=20proposa=
l=20I=20
recently
=20wrote.
=20Fr.=20Carroll=20was=20one=20of=20several=20blindness=20rehab=20scholars=
=20in=20the=20
1960's
=20and=201970's=20who=20advocated=20a=20"loss=20model"=20explaining=20how=20=
people=20
adjust
=20to=20blindness.=20These=20loss=20models=20postulate=20that=20losing=20on=
e's=20
eyesight
=20is=20a=20lot=20like=20experiencing=20the=20death=20of=20a=20loved=20one=
=20and=20that=20
people
=20cope=20with=20it=20in=20similar=20fashion=20by=20going=20through=20vario=
us=20stages=20
of
=20grief,=20like=20denial,=20depression,=20anger=20and=20despair,=20before=
=20they
=20eventually=20come=20to=20accept=20the=20loss=20and=20move=20forward.=20M=
y=20
understanding
=20is=20that=20loss-model=20advocates=20generally=20believed=20people=20who=
=20lose=20
their
=20sight=20are=20not=20"ready"=20to=20begin=20getting=20training=20in=20alt=
ernative
=20techniques=20until=20they=20have=20had=20time=20to=20process=20their=20s=
adness=20and
=20grief.=20What=20is=20so=20unfortunate=20about=20these=20kinds=20of=20the=
ories=20is=20
that
=20they=20imply=20everyone=20reacts=20to=20blindness=20in=20the=20same=20wa=
y,=20and=20
that
=20these=20negative=20emotional=20reactions=20are=20inevitable=20and=20will=
=20
happen
=20regardless=20of=20what=20rehab=20professionals=20or=20others=20(like=20f=
amily=20
members,
=20spouses,=20etc.)=20do.=20Luckily,=20more=20recently=20scholars=20in=20th=
e=20field=20
have
=20noticed=20that=20not=20everyone=20who=20becomes=20blind=20experiences=20=
depression=20or
=20grief=20and=20that=20some=20people=20actually=20do=20quite=20well=20with=
=20early=20
training
=20in=20alternative=20skills.=20Scholars=20have=20also=20begun=20to=20under=
stand=20
that=20the
=20reactions=20of=20the=20important=20people=20in=20a=20blind=20person's=20=
life=20can=20
play=20a
=20huge=20role=20in=20determining=20how=20that=20blind=20person=20copes=20a=
nd=20that=20
much=20of
=20the=20depression,=20frustration,=20etc.=20that=20come=20from=20blindness=
=20
actually
=20come=20from=20other=20people's=20negative=20reactions,=20as=20well=20as=
=20the=20
temporary
=20sense=20of=20incompetence=20that=20comes=20from=20not=20knowing=20altern=
ative=20
skills.
=20The=20problem=20with=20theories=20like=20Carroll's,=20I=20think,=20is=20=
that=20they=20
assume
=20blindness=20affects=20everyone=20equally.=20Of=20course=20many=20of=20us=
=20who=20
lose
=20vision=20experience=20temporary=20depression=20and=20grief,=20and=20of=20=
course=20
even
=20those=20of=20us=20who=20have=20been=20blind=20our=20whole=20lives=20have=
=20times=20when=20
we
=20hate=20blindness.=20But=20clearly=20not=20everyone=20reacts=20in=20the=20=
same=20way=20
or
=20finds=20their=20lives=20dominated=20by=20these=20negative=20feelings.=20=
It's=20
similar
=20to=20research=20we=20often=20see=20showing=20how=20blind=20children=20on=
=20average=20
are
=20deficient=20or=20delayed=20in=20all=20kinds=20of=20developmental=20areas=
.=20This=20
may=20be
=20true=20on=20average,=20but=20it's=20not=20true=20for=20all=20blind=20kid=
s.=20These=20
kinds=20of
=20conclusions=20that=20focus=20on=20blind=20people=20as=20a=20group=20may=
=20be=20
accurate,=20but
=20they're=20oversimplified.=20They=20fail=20to=20account=20for=20all=20the=
=20factors=20
that
=20allow=20some=20of=20us=20to=20end=20up=20better-adjusted=20than=20others=
.=20What
=20distinguishes=20newly=20blind=20folks=20who=20get=20depressed=20from=20t=
hose=20who
=20don't?=20What=20separates=20blind=20kids=20who=20start=20crawling=20or=20=
walking=20
on=20time
=20from=20those=20who=20don't?=20These=20kinds=20of=20questions,=20I=20thin=
k,=20are=20
rarely
=20asked,=20but=20they're=20much=20more=20important=20than=20the=20question=
s=20that=20
lump
=20all=20blind=20people=20together,=20because=20they=20show=20us=20what=20
controllable
=20factors=20make=20real=20differences=20in=20our=20lives.=20If=20we=20don'=
t=20ask=20
these
=20kinds=20of=20questions,=20we=20end=20up=20concluding=20that=20blindness=
=20is=20a=20
kind=20of
=20equal-opportunity=20buzzkill=20that=20will=20leave=20all=20of=20us=20mal=
adjusted=20
and
=20unproductive=20regardless=20of=20what=20we=20do.=20And=20that's=20depres=
sing!
=20Arielle
=20On=208/16/11,=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Hi=20Justin,
=20Don't=20hold=20your=20breath=20for=20having=20a=20Federationist=20take=20=
over=20the
=20Carroll=20Center!=20Well,=20it=20may=20happen,=20but=20I=20don't=20see=20=
it=20
happening
=20soon,=20as=20they've=20worked=20very=20closely=20with=20the=20AFB=20(I=20=
think)=20and=20
a=20lot
=20of=20them=20still=20believe=20in=20what=20FR=20Carroll=20did.
=20Chris
=20On=208/16/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Justin=20and=20everyone,
=20=20=20=20=20You=20can=20read=20all=20about=20FR.=20Carroll's=20belief=20=
about=20blindness=20
being=20a
=20"Dying"=20in=20his=20book=20"Blindness:=20What=20it=20is,=20What=20it=20=
does,and=20How=20
to=20Live
=20With=20It."=20You=20should=20be=20able=20to=20get=20the=20book=20from=20=
NLS,=20Learning=20
Allie,=20or
=20Bookshare.org.=20I=20read=20it=20in=20the=20late=201970s=20and=20became=
=20totally=20
depressed
=20after=20reading=20three=20chapters=20of=20it.=20Dr.=20Jernigan=20quoted=
=20from=20it=20
in=20his
=20address:=20"Blindness=20Handicap=20or=20Characteristic."
=20Peter=20Donahue
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Salisbury,=20Justin=20Mark"=20<SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu
=20To:=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Tuesday,=20August=2016,=202011=209:42=20AM
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20I=20just=20want=20to=20summarize=20my=20view=20on=20the=20Carroll=20Cent=
er:
=20If=20it's=20the=20only=20opportunity=20you=20have=20to=20get=20some=20sk=
ills=20that=20
you=20don't
=20already=20have,=20it=20can=20benefit=20you.=20=20If=20you=20have=20the=20=
opportunity=20
to=20attend
=20an
=20NFB=20training=20center=20(or=20BISM,=20which=20Amy=20Phelps=20runs=20wi=
th=20an=20NFB
=20philosophy),
=20choose=20it=20over=20the=20Carroll=20Center=20100=20out=20of=20100=20tim=
es.
=20I've=20never=20heard=20the=20"dying"=20thing=20about=20Father=20Carroll,=
=20but=20it=20
does=20not
=20surprise=20me.=20=20I=20would=20love=20to=20get=20a=20good=20Federationi=
st=20to=20take=20
over=20the
=20management=20of=20the=20Carroll=20Center.
=20Justin
=20Justin=20M.=20Salisbury
=20Undergraduate=20Student
=20The=20University=20Honors=20Program
=20East=20Carolina=20University
=20salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
=20=93Never=20doubt=20that=20a=20small=20group=20of=20thoughtful,=20committ=
ed=20
citizens=20can
=20change
=20the=20world;=20indeed,=20it=92s=20the=20only=20thing=20that=20ever=20has=
.=94=20=20=20=20
=97MARGARET=20MEAD
=20________________________________________
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20[nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20on=20
behalf=20of
=20nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org=20[nabs-l-request at nfbnet.org]
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20August=2014,=202011=201:00=20PM
=20To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20nabs-l=20Digest,=20Vol=2058,=20Issue=2014
=20Send=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list=20submissions=20to
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=20=20=20=201.=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site,=20Please=20Read=20(David=20Dunph=
y)
=20=20=20=202.=20Re:=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?=20(Justin=20Youn=
g)
=20=20=20=203.=20Re:=20Blio=20and=20E-Book=20Readers=20(Kirt=20Manwaring)
=20=20=20=204.=20Re:=20Blio=20and=20E-Book=20Readers=20(Heather=20Field)
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=20=20=20=20=20=20=20(bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
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nusbaum)
=20=20=20=207.=20Re:=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?=20
(bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
=20=20=20=208.=20announcement=20for=20all=20interested=20in=20Arianna's=20A=
rt:=20new=20
email
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20address=20for=20the=20business=20(chris=20nusbaum)
=20=20=20=209.=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20(Salisbury,=20=
Justin=20Mark)
=20=20=2010.=20Re:=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?=20(David=20Dodge)
=20=20=2011.=20Fwd:=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Fwd:=20Thunder=20Dog=20on=20t=
he=20move=20
and=20a
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20corrected=20link=20(Gabe=20Cazares)
=20=20=2012.=20AMerican=20Hero=20Dog=20Award=20(Beth)
=20=20=2013.=20Re:=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20(Peter=20=
Donahue)
=20=20=2014.=20sending=20a=20message=20to=20all=20Gmail=20contacts?=20(chri=
s=20nusbaum)
=20=20=2015.=20Fwd:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20Mentoring=20Project:=20mentors=
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=20=20=20=20=20=20=20(chris=20nusbaum)
=20=20=2016.=20Fwd:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20mentoring=20project:=20mentees=
=20flier.
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20(chris=20nusbaum)
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nusbaum)
=20=20=2018.=20Re:=20AMerican=20Hero=20Dog=20Award=20(chris=20nusbaum)
=20=20=2019.=20Re:=20Fwd:=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Fwd:=20Thunder=20Dog=20=
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=20=20=20=20=20=20=20and=20a=20corrected=20link=20(chris=20nusbaum)
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=20Message:=201
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2013:11:26=20-0400
=20From:=20David=20Dunphy=20<djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site,=20Please=20Read
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CAAurf=3DcXjwXwhD9ifLO_HMyJYJ9Gu5=3DLYRP_ynvtGJe4fcRY4g at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hi=20Everybody!
=20I=20want=20to=20begin=20by=20apologizing=20to=20each=20and=20every=20one=
=20of=20you=20for=20
the
=20convention=20meeting=20not=20being=20up=20yet.=20I=20realize=20how=20hor=
ribly=20late=20
it
=20is.=20Sadly,=20there=20is=20a=20reason=20for=20this:=20The=20current=20w=
eb=20hosting
=20provider=20we=20were=20using=20had=20their=20mother=20board=20fry,=20and=
=20we=20lost=20
some
=20files=20from=20the=20site..=20Luckily,=20I=20have=20a=20backup=20of=20th=
ese=20things,=20
but
=20our=20site=20provider=20does=20not=20have=20a=20system=20for=20any=20sit=
e=20backups.=20
So=20if=20I
=20had=20a=20crash,=20and=20such=20an=20occurrence=20happened=20again,=20by=
e=20bye
=20nabslinkaudio.org.
=20So,=20I've=20done=20some=20digging=20around,=20and=20I=20have=20found=20=
us=20a=20new=20
hosting
=20home=20that=20does=20have=20automated=20site=20backups,=20protects=20fro=
m=20
viruses=20and
=20spam,=20etc.
=20So=20at=20around=202=20PM=20or=203=20PM=20eastern=20today,=20August=2013=
=202011,=20the
=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site=20will=20be=20taken=20off=20line=20while=20we=20=
make=20the=20
switch
=20to=20a=20new=20provider.
=20During=20the=20time=20of=20the=20transfer,=20you'll=20see=20a=20generic=
=20page=20
letting=20you
=20know=20that=20the=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site=20is=20temporarily=20unavai=
lable.
=20You'll=20know=20when=20the=20transfer=20is=20complete,=20for=20the=20sit=
e=20will=20be=20
back
=20online=20again.
=20Once=20I'm=20sure=20that=20the=20domain=20has=20been=20updated=20and=20t=
hat=20all=20
internet
=20service=20providers=20have=20had=20a=20chance=20to=20update=20their=20re=
cords=20to=20
reflect
=20the=20change,=20I=20will=20put=20up=20the=20meeting=20for=20download,=20=
and=20also=20
implement
=20text=20notifications=20of=20archive=20availability.=20Yes,=20I=20know=20=
I=20
already
=20mentioned=20this,=20but=20I'm=20going=20to=20implement=20something=20tha=
t=20will:
=201.=20Ensure=20the=20membership=20committee=20that=20only=20people=20who=
=20want=20
their
=20numbers=20shared=20for=20getting=20text=20notifications=20of=20call=20
availability=20get
=20said=20messages=20and=20no=20one=20else
=20and
=202.=20No=20one=20can=20turn=20around=20and=20say=20they=20didn't=20give=20=
their=20number=20
if=20a
=20concern=20should=20come=20up,=20for=20each=20phone=20number=20will=20hav=
e=20to=20be
=20validated=20by=20the=20owner
=20Don't=20worry,=20the=20process=20will=20be=20painless,=20and=20will=20ma=
ke=20total=20
sense
=20once=20you=20see=20it!
=20If=20you=20have=20any=20questions,=20please=20email=20me=20at
=20djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
=20Thank=20you.
From=20David
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=202
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2014:29:42=20-0400
=20From:=20Justin=20Young=20<jty727 at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CA+3U9s6Bhzbq4b_FE-5hjGU9+V=3DhM-2Ui6UMM1RXBc8mnDSYBg at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hi=20David,
=20No=20problem.=20=20I=20did=20three=20different=20programs.=20=20In=20the=
=20Summer=20of=20
2006=20I
=20did=20the=20Youth=20In=20Transition(YIT)=20program=20which=20is=20heavil=
y=20
focused=20upon
=20daily=20living=20skills.=20=20There=20were=20classes=20from=208:45-3pm=20=
Mon-Fri.=20=20
Then
=20there=20was=20activities=20that=20you=20did=20clubs=20and=20stuff=20like=
=20that.=20=20
Some
=20were=20fun=20and=20some=20not=20really.=20=20You=20have=20the=20opportun=
ity=20to=20do=20
fencing,
=20and=20other=20evening=20activities.=20=20Some=20of=20the=20evening=20one=
s=20were=20
more
=20arts/crafts=20style=20if=20I=20recall.=20=20Its=20hard=20to=20say=20with=
=20the
=20extracurriculars=20cuz=20they=20changed=20ever=20year.=20=20The=20ones=20=
whichwere=20
the
=20same=20were=20Fencing,=20Sailing,=20shopping=20and=20others=20which=20I=
=20forget.=20=20
The
=20next=20Summer=20I=20did=20the=20Real=20World=20of=20Work=20Experience=20=
Program(RWWE)
=20which=20was=205=20weeks=20where=20the=20first=20week=20is=20doing=20the=
=20classes=20to=20
make
=20sure=20you=20can=20do=20all=20of=20it=20because=20like=20laundry=20you=20=
had=20to=20wait=20
until
=20after=20classes=20were=20over=20or=20on=20weekends=20as=20well.=20=20Onc=
e=20you=20begin
=20working=20its=20great=20I=20must=20say.=20=20When=20I=20did=20it=20they=
=20selected=20a=20
place=20for
=20you=20and=20you=20were=20on=20the=20job=20site=20for=20Mon,=20Wed,=20Fri=
=20and=20Tues=20&=20
Thu=20you
=20went=20on=20Field=20Trips.=20=20Oh=20yes=20I=20forgot=20about=20those=20=
we=20went=20on=20
those=20as
=20well=20in=20YIT.=20=20They=20were=20to=20fun=20places,=20movies,=20golfi=
ng=20&=20stuff=20
like
=20that.=20=20For=20the=20RWWE=20program=20though=20on=20Thursdays=20we=20w=
ent=20on=20Work
=20related=20field=20trips.=20=20Like=20once=20we=20went=20to=20the=20State=
=20House=20in=20
Boston
=20and=20tried=20to=20go=20to=20Cape=20Cod,=20but=20the=20van=20I=20was=20i=
n=20broke=20down=20so
=20couldn't=20do=20that=20one.=20=20There=20were=20still=20the=20activities=
=20in=20the
=20afternoon=20and=20evening.=20=20I=20didn't=20really=20do=20the=20ones=20=
in=20the=20
afternoon
=20because=20I=20got=20back=20from=20work=20to=20late=20always.=20=20I=20wo=
rked=20at=20the=20
Newton
=20Welseley=20Hospital=20in=20the=20Receiving=20Department=20which=20was=20=
fun=20
after=20I
=20got=20a=20hand=20of=20what=20I=20was=20doing,=20the=20layout=20of=20the=
=20place=20and=20
confidence
=20that=20I=20could=20do=20it=20all.=20=20I=20delivered=20to=20depts=20main=
ly.=20=20For=20my=20
Final
=20Summer=20I=20and=204=20others=20were=20involved=20in=20the=20pilot=20pro=
gram=20of=20
Transition
=20To=20College(TTC)=20in=20the=20Summer=20of=202008.=20=20This=20program=20=
was=204=20weeks=20
where
=20we=20did=202=20at=20the=20Carroll=20Center=20like=20the=20YIT=20program=
=20and=202=20at=20
Boston
=20College.=20=20The=202=20weeks=20of=20the=20classes=20is=20to=20ensure=20=
we=20could=20do=20it=20
while
=20at=20BC.=20=20There=20was=20also=20a=202=20week=20period=20before=20the=
=20program=20
started=20for
=20all=20in=20the=20program=20to=20do=20the=20Computing=20to=20College=20wh=
ich=20is=20a=20
computer
=20program=20based=20in=20the=20Technology=20Center=20at=20the=20Carroll=20=
Center.=20=20I
=20couldn't=20do=20this=20portion=20because=20I=20was=20finishing=20High=20=
School.=20=20
While
=20at=20BC=20we=20attended=20various=20seminars=20during=20the=20day=20and=
=20after=20I=20
think
=203pm=20it=20was=20we=20were=20free=20to=20do=20whatever=20we=20liked.=20=
=20We=20stayed=20in=20a=20
dorm
=20which=20was=20a=20suite=20style=20and=20had=20a=20supervisor=20in=20one=
=20of=20the=205=20
rooms
=20with=20us.=20=20We=20were=20given=20each=20day=20$15=20for=20food=20and=
=20had=20to=20give=20
the
=20supervisor=20all=20receipts=20of=20what=20we=20spent.=20=20We=20definite=
ly=20got=20our
=20exercise=20because=20our=20dorm=20was=20about=20a=20mile=20from=20the=20=
Education=20
Building
=20where=20our=20seminars=20took=20place.=20=20We=20went=20on=20a=20field=20=
trip=20or=20two=20I=20
don't
=20remember.=20=20I=20remember=20we=20went=20to=20either=20Boston=20Univers=
ity=20or=20one=20
of
=20the=20UMass=20schools.=20=20I=20and=20a=20few=20of=20the=20others=20in=20=
the=20program=20
took=20the
=20train=20to=20go=20places=20once=20or=20twice=20and=20a=20coffee=20shop=20=
was=20right=20on=20
the
=20edge=20of=20the=20college=20and=20not=20far=20from=20our=20dorm.=20=20So=
,=20I=20went=20there
=20sometimes.
=20It=20was=20a=20great=20three=20years=20full=20of=20making=20friends.=20=
=20The=20cons=20you
=20asked?=20=20Hmm,=20well=20it=20really=20depends=20upon=20how=20you=20loo=
k=20at=20which=20
program
=20you=20are=20in.=20=20I=20would=20say=20that=20sometimes=20you=20were=20f=
orced=20to=20do=20
things
=20you=20didn't=20really=20want=20to=20do=20which=20is=20why=20I=20really=20=
liked=20the=20BC
=20living.=20=20I=20hope=20this=20helps=20you.
=20Justin
=20On=208/13/11,=20David=20Dodge=20<daviddod at buffalo.edu>=20wrote:
=20Justin,
=20Thanks=20for=20your=20e-mail.=20Clearly,=20you=20have=20a=20great=20deal=
=20of=20
experience
=20with
=20the=20center.=20Can=20you=20tell=20me=20about=20the=20program=20you=20we=
re=20in,=20what=20
you
=20learned,
=20and=20how=20it=20helped=20you?=20Were=20there=20any=20cons=20to=20the=20=
center?=20Thanks=20
so
=20much.
=20David
=20----------------------------------
=20David=20Dodge
=20Doctoral=20Degree=20Granting=20Institutions=20Rep.
=20State=20University=20of=20New=20York=20Student=20Assembly
=20English=20Major
=20University=20at=20Buffalo
=20306=20Clemens=20Hall
=20Buffalo,=20NY=2014260
=20daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20On=20Sat,=20Aug=2013,=202011=20at=2012:54=20AM,=20Justin=20Young=20
<jty727 at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Hi=20David,
=20I=20have=20experience=20with=20this=20center=20since=20I=20spent=203=20c=
onsecutive=20
summers
=20at=20the=20Corroll=20Center.=20=20I=20would=20be=20happy=20to=20answer=20=
any=20questions=20
you
=20may=20have.
=20Justin=20Young
=20On=208/12/11,=20David=20Dodge=20<daviddod at buffalo.edu>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Everyone,
=20A=20friend=20of=20mine=20is=20going=20to=20be=20going=20to=20the=20Carol=
=20Center=20for=20
the
=20Blind
=20in
=20Newton=20Massachusetts.=20Does=20anyone=20have=20experience=20with=20thi=
s=20
specific
=20center?
=20I'd=20just=20like=20some=20general=20feedback.=20Thanks=20so=20much.
=20David
=20----------------------------------
=20David=20Dodge
=20Doctoral=20Degree=20Granting=20Institutions=20Rep.
=20State=20University=20of=20New=20York=20Student=20Assembly
=20English=20Major
=20University=20at=20Buffalo
=20306=20Clemens=20Hall
=20Buffalo,=20NY=2014260
=20daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
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gmail..com
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=203
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2012:52:23=20-0600
=20From:=20Kirt=20Manwaring=20<kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Blio=20and=20E-Book=20Readers
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABDhuesGK8zUgSR8+=3DPERcmVk1PJ2gsVcBCLQTWQ7XsaP81Hdw at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3Dwindows-1252
=20Peter,
=20=20=20I=20intend=20no=20disrespect=20to=20KNFB,=20but=20I=20honestly=20h=
ave=20an=20easier=20
time
=20using=20the=20Kindel=20for=20PC=20app=20than=20I=20do=20using=20the=20Bl=
io.=20=20To=20each=20
their
=20own,=20I=20guess.
=20=20=20Warmly,
=20Kirt
=20On=208/13/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Joseph=20and=20everyone,
=20=20=20=20=20Rather=20than=20messing=20with=20Nook,=20Kindle=20and=20comp=
any=20why=20not=20
use=20Blio.
=20It
=20was=20developed=20by=20KNFB=20Reading=20Technology=20and=20was=20designe=
d=20with=20
access
=20for
=20blind=20and=20sighted=20people=20in=20mind.=20The=20NFB=20played=20a=20m=
ajor=20role=20in=20
helping
=20to
=20develop=20this=20product.=20I'd=20strongly=20suggest=20seriously=20
investigating=20Blio
=20instead=20of=20e-book=20solutions=20whose=20accessibility=20is=20next=20=
to=20none=20
or
=20nonexistent.=20Find=20out=20more=20by=20visiting:
=20http://www.blio.com
=20=20=20=20=20We=20have=20Blio=20installed=20on=20one=20of=20our=20devices=
=20and=20love=20it.=20
It's=20a
=20great
=20product.=20Now=20to=20add=20more=20books=20to=20our=20collection.
=20Peter=20Donahue
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"T.=20Joseph=20Carter"=20<carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20August=2012,=202011=2011:49=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
=20The=20Nook=20is=20completely=20inaccessible=20at=20last=20look.=20=20The=
=20Kindle=20
can=20be
=20accessible,=20if=20the=20publisher=20wants=20it=20to=20be.=20=20How=20we=
ll=20it=20works
=20you?ll=20have=20to=20ask=20others?I=20use=20an=20iPad=20myself.=20=20*gr=
in*
=20Joseph=20-=20kf7qzc
=20On=20Fri,=20Aug=2012,=202011=20at=2012:40:53PM=20-0400,=20jandart2 at aol.c=
om=20
wrote:
Listers,
Can=20you=20share=20any=20=20experiences/recommendations=20for=20Nook=20and=
=20
Kindle?
Thanks,
Jan
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Rania=20Ismail=20CMT=20<raniaismail04 at gmail.com
To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Wed,=20Aug=2010,=202011=202:33=20pm
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is
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-----Original=20Message-----
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[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
Behalf
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Sent:=20Wednesday,=20August=2010,=202011=201:25=20PM
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Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
I=20joined=20in=201993=20and=20was=20told=20with=20a=20lifetime=20membershi=
p=20we=20are=20
exempt
from
paying=20the=20annual=20fee.
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Marsha=20Drenth
Sent:=20Wednesday,=20August=2010,=202011=2011:00=20AM
To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
I=20think=20I=20heard=20of=20Learning=20Allie=20loosing=20its=20funding=20s=
ome=20time=20
around
convention,=20but=20did=20not=20much=20think=20about=20it.=20So=20if=20now=
=20people=20
want=20to
use
the=20books,=20we=20must=20pay.=20What=20happens=20to=20those=20of=20us=20w=
ho=20have=20been
grandfathered=20in=20since=20the=20beginning=20of=20time?
At=20least=20because=20I=20am=20a=20student=20I=20get=20BKS=20for=20free=20=
of=20charge.=20I=20
don't
use
BKS=20books=20all=20that=20much,=20because=20when=20put=20on=20my=20stream=
=20to=20read=20
audibly=20I
can't=20understand=20the=20speech.=20So=20thus=20why=20I=20like=20the=20Lea=
rning=20
Allie
books.
Marsha
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=20------------------------------
=20Message:=204
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2015:27:44=20-0500
=20From:=20"Heather=20Field"=20<missheather at comcast.net
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Blio=20and=20E-Book=20Readers
=20Message-ID:=20<B4994BAF808D44B7BA43F214F6406C34 at HeatherAcer
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20format=3Dflowed;=20charset=3D"Windows-1252=
";
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20reply-type=3Doriginal
=20Hi=20Kurt,
=20I=20downloaded=20Kindle=20for=20PC=20and=20then=20bought=20an=20ebook=20=
with=20speech=20
enabled.
=20However,=20I=20believe=20I=20still=20need=20an=20accessibility=20plugin=
=20or=20some=20
such
=20add-on
=20to=20make=20it=20fully=20accessible.=20As=20you're=20having=20great=20su=
ccess=20with=20
using
=20Kindle,=20can=20you=20please=20advise=20me=20as=20to=20what=20I=20need=20=
to=20do=20so=20I=20
can=20read=20my
=20ebook.
=20Thanks=20so=20much.
=20Heather
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Kirt=20Manwaring
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20August=2013,=202011=201:52=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Blio=20and=20E-Book=20Readers
=20Peter,
=20=20=20I=20intend=20no=20disrespect=20to=20KNFB,=20but=20I=20honestly=20h=
ave=20an=20easier=20
time
=20using=20the=20Kindel=20for=20PC=20app=20than=20I=20do=20using=20the=20Bl=
io.=20=20To=20each=20
their
=20own,=20I=20guess.
=20=20=20Warmly,
=20Kirt
=20On=208/13/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Joseph=20and=20everyone,
=20=20=20=20=20Rather=20than=20messing=20with=20Nook,=20Kindle=20and=20comp=
any=20why=20not=20
use=20Blio.
=20It
=20was=20developed=20by=20KNFB=20Reading=20Technology=20and=20was=20designe=
d=20with=20
access
=20for
=20blind=20and=20sighted=20people=20in=20mind.=20The=20NFB=20played=20a=20m=
ajor=20role=20in=20
helping
=20to
=20develop=20this=20product.=20I'd=20strongly=20suggest=20seriously=20
investigating=20Blio
=20instead=20of=20e-book=20solutions=20whose=20accessibility=20is=20next=20=
to=20none=20
or
=20nonexistent.=20Find=20out=20more=20by=20visiting:
=20http://www.blio.com
=20=20=20=20=20We=20have=20Blio=20installed=20on=20one=20of=20our=20devices=
=20and=20love=20it.=20
It's=20a
=20great
=20product.=20Now=20to=20add=20more=20books=20to=20our=20collection.
=20Peter=20Donahue
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"T.=20Joseph=20Carter"=20<carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20August=2012,=202011=2011:49=20PM
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
=20The=20Nook=20is=20completely=20inaccessible=20at=20last=20look.=20=20The=
=20Kindle=20
can=20be
=20accessible,=20if=20the=20publisher=20wants=20it=20to=20be.=20=20How=20we=
ll=20it=20works
=20you?ll=20have=20to=20ask=20others?I=20use=20an=20iPad=20myself.=20=20*gr=
in*
=20Joseph=20-=20kf7qzc
=20On=20Fri,=20Aug=2012,=202011=20at=2012:40:53PM=20-0400,=20jandart2 at aol.c=
om=20
wrote:
Listers,
Can=20you=20share=20any=20=20experiences/recommendations=20for=20Nook=20and=
=20
Kindle?
Thanks,
Jan
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Rania=20Ismail=20CMT=20<raniaismail04 at gmail.com
To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Wed,=20Aug=2010,=202011=202:33=20pm
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
I=20joined=20in=2095=20and=20have=20the=20life=20time=20membership.=20The=20=
membership=20
is
free.
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
Behalf
Of=20Anjelina
Sent:=20Wednesday,=20August=2010,=202011=201:25=20PM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
I=20joined=20in=201993=20and=20was=20told=20with=20a=20lifetime=20membershi=
p=20we=20are=20
exempt
from
paying=20the=20annual=20fee.
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Marsha=20Drenth
Sent:=20Wednesday,=20August=2010,=202011=2011:00=20AM
To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Learning=20Ally=20new=20prices
I=20think=20I=20heard=20of=20Learning=20Allie=20loosing=20its=20funding=20s=
ome=20time=20
around
convention,=20but=20did=20not=20much=20think=20about=20it.=20So=20if=20now=
=20people=20
want=20to
use
the=20books,=20we=20must=20pay.=20What=20happens=20to=20those=20of=20us=20w=
ho=20have=20been
grandfathered=20in=20since=20the=20beginning=20of=20time?
At=20least=20because=20I=20am=20a=20student=20I=20get=20BKS=20for=20free=20=
of=20charge.=20I=20
don't
use
BKS=20books=20all=20that=20much,=20because=20when=20put=20on=20my=20stream=
=20to=20read=20
audibly=20I
can't=20understand=20the=20speech.=20So=20thus=20why=20I=20like=20the=20Lea=
rning=20
Allie
books.
Marsha
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=20Message:=205
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2017:49:43=20-0400
=20From:=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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=20Thanks=20for=20the=20update=20and=20look=20forward=20to=20to=20the=20rec=
ordings.
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20David=20Dunphy
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20August=2013,=202011=201:11=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
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=20Hi=20Everybody!
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switch
=20to=20a=20new=20provider.
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=20Message:=206
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2018:09:38=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
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=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site,=20Please=20Read
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=20Hi=20David,
=20Technical=20problems,=20technical=20problems!=20First,=20
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Thanks
=20for=20the=20update,=20and=20I=20look=20forward=20to=20listening=20to=20t=
he=20meeting!
=20Chris
=20On=208/13/11,=20bookwormahb at earthlink.net=20
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20wrote:
=20Thanks=20for=20the=20update=20and=20look=20forward=20to=20to=20the=20rec=
ordings.
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20David=20Dunphy
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20August=2013,=202011=201:11=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site,=20Please=20Read
=20Hi=20Everybody!
=20I=20want=20to=20begin=20by=20apologizing=20to=20each=20and=20every=20one=
=20of=20you=20for=20
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=20our=20site=20provider=20does=20not=20have=20a=20system=20for=20any=20sit=
e=20backups.=20
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=20had=20a=20crash,=20and=20such=20an=20occurrence=20happened=20again,=20by=
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=20During=20the=20time=20of=20the=20transfer,=20you'll=20see=20a=20generic=
=20page=20
letting=20you
=20know=20that=20the=20nabslinkaudio.org=20site=20is=20temporarily=20unavai=
lable.
=20You'll=20know=20when=20the=20transfer=20is=20complete,=20for=20the=20sit=
e=20will=20be=20
back
=20online=20again.
=20Once=20I'm=20sure=20that=20the=20domain=20has=20been=20updated=20and=20t=
hat=20all=20
internet
=20service=20providers=20have=20had=20a=20chance=20to=20update=20their=20re=
cords=20to=20
reflect
=20the=20change,=20I=20will=20put=20up=20the=20meeting=20for=20download,=20=
and=20also=20
implement
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I=20
already
=20mentioned=20this,=20but=20I'm=20going=20to=20implement=20something=20tha=
t=20will:
=201.=20Ensure=20the=20membership=20committee=20that=20only=20people=20who=
=20want=20
their
=20numbers=20shared=20for=20getting=20text=20notifications=20of=20call=20
availability=20get
=20said=20messages=20and=20no=20one=20else
=20and
=202.=20No=20one=20can=20turn=20around=20and=20say=20they=20didn't=20give=20=
their=20number=20
if=20a
=20concern=20should=20come=20up,=20for=20each=20phone=20number=20will=20hav=
e=20to=20be
=20validated=20by=20the=20owner
=20Don't=20worry,=20the=20process=20will=20be=20painless,=20and=20will=20ma=
ke=20total=20
sense
=20once=20you=20see=20it!
=20If=20you=20have=20any=20questions,=20please=20email=20me=20at
=20djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
=20Thank=20you.
From=20David
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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sbaum%40gmail.com
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=207
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2019:00:54=20-0400
=20From:=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?
=20Message-ID:=20<94D3A84AC9CB48E483A5C87D966FF189 at OwnerPC
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20format=3Dflowed;=20charset=3D"utf-8";
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20reply-type=3Doriginal
=20David,
=20What=20program=20is=20your=20friend=20attending?=20Is=20it=20the=20main=
=20
rehabilitation
=20adult
=20program?=20They=20also=20have=20one=20for=20work=20experience=20called=20=
the=20
vocational
=20transition=20program.=20=20I=20can=20only=20comment=20briefly=20upon=20t=
he=20center.=20
I=20have=20a
=20short=20summer=20experience=20to=20comment=20on.
=20I=20would=20be=20interested=20to=20hear=20any=20feedback=20from=20people=
=20in=20the=20
adult
=20program
=20because=20I=20am=20thinking=20of=20going=20back=20for=20training.
=20Like=20Justin=20Young,=20I=20attended=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition,=20=
Yit,=20
Program.
=20I=20was=20there=20in=20summer=202001.=20Back=20then=20it=20was=20a=20six=
=20week=20program;=20
now=20it?s
=20a
=20shorter=20program=20since=20they=20have=20=20a=20new=20program=20called
=20Transition=20to=20College=20that=20they=20run=20for=20four=20weeks=20plu=
s=20two=20
weeks=20the
=20students=20attend=20the=20computer=20program=20for=20a=20total=20of=20si=
x=20weeks.=20=20
Had=20I
=20known
=20about=20the=20Real=20World=20of=20Work=20experience,=20RWWE
=20program,=20I=20might=20have=20attended=20that=20during=20my=20high=20sch=
ool=20years.=20
The
=20teens
=20in=20the=20program=20all=20seemed=20to=20enjoy=20their=20jobs.
=20That=20would=20have=20been=20a=20good=20way=20to=20get=20work=20experien=
ce=20and=20
socialize.=20=20I
=20was
=20friends=20with=20the=20RWWE=20students=20though.
=20In=202001=20RWWE=20students=20went=20to=20work=20three=20days=20=20a=20w=
eek=20with=20one=20
day=20of
=20field
=20trips=20and=20the=20other=20day=20of=20classes=20at=20the=20center.=20St=
udents=20in=20
YIT=20and
=20RWWE
=20had=20afternoon/evening=20activities=20as=20well=20as=20field=20trips=20=
together.
=20We=20also=20had=20meals=20together.=20I=20guess=20that=20is=20why=20we=20=
=20got=20to=20know=20
each
=20other
=20since=20there=20was=20some=20overlap=20in=20experience.
=20In=20the=20Youth=20in=20transition=20program,=20it=20was=20focussed=20on=
=20daily=20
living
=20skills.
=20Its=20like=20=20the=20youth=20version=20of=20the=20rehab=20program.
=20Classes=20were=20from=209:00=20-=203:00.
=20Before=20that=20there=20were=20announcements=20at=208:45.=20In=20the=20a=
fternoon,=20
students
=20had
=20club=20activities=20and=20in=20the=20evening
=20there=20were=20more=20activities=20and=20some=20of=20them=20were=20off=20=
campus.
=20In=20the=20adult=20program=20at=203:00=20is=20a=20makeup=20class
=20period.=20=20I=20am=20glad=20I=20went=20to=20YIT=20for=20the=20experienc=
e=20of=20the=20extra
=20curriculars
=20and=20socializing.=20But=20they=20went=20over=20a=20lot=20of=20stuff=20I=
=20already=20
knew.=20=20I
=20wonder
=20if=20the=20=20adult=20program=20is=20more=20individualized=20with=20a=20=
good=20
evaluation=20of
=20skills=20before=20you=20learn=20skills=20in=20class.
=20Some=20of=20the=20classes=20were=20communication,=20personal=20managemen=
t,=20
mobility,
=20and
=20information=20technology.=20=20In=20communication=20some=20students=20le=
arned=20
braille
=20but
=20I=20already=20knew=20it.=20They=20showed=20us=20some=20labeling=20produc=
ts=20and=20how=20
to=20erase
=20a
=20tape=20if=20you=20recorded=20on=20it.=20I=20don't=20think=20I=20got=20mu=
ch=20out=20of=20that=20
class.
=20In
=20personal=20management,=20Ellie=20was=20the=20instructor.=20That=20class=
=20
focuses=20on
=20cooking,=20personal=20care=20=20and=20housekeeping=20skills.=20I=20pract=
iced=20
cutting=20and
=20spreading=20there.=20I=20had=20been=20taught=20by=20a=20rehab=20teacher=
=20at=20home,=20
but=20found
=20Ellie's=20guidance=20helpful.=20She=20taught=20hand=20over=20=20hand=20a=
nd=20
explained
=20things.
=20There=20was=20another=20student=20in=20my=20class.=20=20We=20made
=20cookies.=20She=20also=20went=20over=20folding=20money=20but=20I=20alread=
y=20knew=20
that.=20We=20had
=20a
=20lesson=20on=20putting=20on=20lipstick=20too.
=20Some=20students=20addressed=20personal=20care,=20but=20I=20was=20fine=20=
with=20
shaving=20and
=20bathing=20as=20a=20teen.=20We=20did=20more,=20but=20I=20cannot=20remembe=
r=20it=20all.
=20IIn=20Orientation=20and=20mobility,=20I=20learned=20and=20practiced=20st=
reet=20
crossing=20and
=20went=20on=20the=20city=20bus.=20That=20was=20one=20on=20one;=20not=20all=
=20students=20went=20
on=20the
=20bus.
=20I=20went=20to=20the=20Boston=20area=20to=20walk=20around;=20I=20think=20=
we=20took=20the=20
bus=20to
=20Newton
=20center=20which=20is=20a=20=20stip=20shopping=20center=20a=20few=20miles=
=20from=20the=20
center.=20I
=20had
=20practice=20buying=20things=20in=20the=20store=20with=20customer=20servic=
e=20
assistance.
=20The=20activities=20at=20night=20were=20fun.=20I=20cannot=20remember=20th=
e=20day=20
ones.=20It=20was
=20ten
=20years=20ago!
=20I=20only=20remember=20an=20afternoon=20club=20called=20clay=20works=20wh=
ere=20we=20
made=20clay
=20objects=20and=20painted=20them.
=20I=20think=20one=20afternoon=20club=20was=20recreation=20where=20we=20pla=
yed=20beep=20
ball=20or
=20goal
=20ball.
=20On=20most=20fridays=20nights,=20everyone=20had=20the=20option=20to=20go=
=20to=20the=20
lake=20to
=20swim,
=20but=20I=20don't=20think=20I=20went;=20I=20was=20too=20tired.=20=20On=20M=
ondays=20was=20our=20
shopping
=20night=20where=20we=20went=20to=20a=20local=20mall.=20On=20Wednesdays=20w=
e=20went=20
canoeing.
=20We=20had=20field=20trips=20once=20a=20week=20instead=20of=20classes;=20t=
hose=20were=20
usually
=20fun.
=20I=20had=20not=20had=20some=20of=20those=20experiences.=20We=20went=20to=
=20a=20dance=20
studio=20where
=20they=20showed=20us=20some=20dance=20moves=20and=20let=20us=20explore=20d=
ancer's=20
shoes=20and
=20outfits;=20since=20we=20could=20not=20see=20what=20they=20wore,=20I=20gu=
ess=20they=20
wanted=20us=20to
=20know=20what=20dancers=20wore.=20We=20also=20went=20to=20Cape=20Cod,=20a=
=20horse=20farm,=20
and
=20museums.
=20I=20still=20keep=20in=20touch=20with=20a=20friend=20from=20the=20center=
=20and=20I=20saw=20
one=20student
=20who=20was=20down=20here=20in=20the=20next=20county=20working=20as=20a=20=
teacher=20of=20the=20
vision
=20impaired.
=20I=20hope=20your=20friend=20learns=20something=20valuable=20from=20the=20=
center.
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20David=20Dodge
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20August=2012,=202011=2011:39=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?
=20Hello=20Everyone,
=20A=20friend=20of=20mine=20is=20going=20to=20be=20going=20to=20the=20Carol=
=20Center=20for=20
the=20Blind
=20in
=20Newton=20Massachusetts.=20Does=20anyone=20have=20experience=20with=20thi=
s=20
specific
=20center?
=20I'd=20just=20like=20some=20general=20feedback.=20Thanks=20so=20much.
=20David
=20----------------------------------
=20David=20Dodge
=20Doctoral=20Degree=20Granting=20Institutions=20Rep.
=20State=20University=20of=20New=20York=20Student=20Assembly
=20English=20Major
=20University=20at=20Buffalo
=20306=20Clemens=20Hall
=20Buffalo,=20NY=2014260
=20daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
=20
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hb%40earthlink.net
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=208
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2021:28:47=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,=20=20=20=20Blind=20Talk=20M=
ailing=20List
=20<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20"g=20List\"=20<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,=20\"nfbmd\"=
=20
<nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20\"nabs\"=20<nabs at acb.org>,=20\"maryland-l\"=20
<maryland-l at acb.org>,
=20\"Ross
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Hammond\"=20<editor at matildaziegler.com>,=20=20\"=
alena=20
roberts\""
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com
=20Cc:=20Ariana=20Lipka=20<arigeogirl at gmail.com>,=20ariannas.art at gmail.com
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20announcement=20for=20all=20interested=20in=20Arian=
na's=20
Art:
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20new=20email=20address=20for=20the=20business
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxFuazmXega=3DJYSf_vsW_kLhSPqOcE77nodA+M5p-+R9Sg at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20Hi=20everyone,
=20I'd=20like=20to=20let=20everyone=20know=20of=20a=20new=20and=20exciting=
=20change=20in=20
our
=20painting=20business=20for=20the=20blind=20and=20sighted,=20Arianna's=20A=
rt,=20Inc.=20
We've
=20just=20created=20an=20email=20account=20where=20you=20can=20send=20us=20=
questions,
=20comments,=20suggestions,=20or=20any=20other=20information=20regarding=20=
our
=20business.=20If=20you=20would=20like=20to=20advertise=20our=20product=20b=
y=20
displaying=20it
=20at=20your=20next=20NFB,=20ACB,=20or=20any=20other=20meeting=20or=20event=
,=20or=20would=20
like=20to
=20advertise=20us=20in=20any=20other=20way,=20you=20can=20also=20contact=20=
us=20via=20this=20
email.
=20Our=20email=20address=20is=20ariannas.art at gmail.com.=20We're=20also=20tr=
ying=20
to
=20create=20an=20email=20list=20for=20people=20who=20would=20like=20to=20re=
cieve
=20announcements=20from=20us.=20In=20other=20words,=20if=20you=20specify=20=
that=20you=20
would
=20like=20to=20be=20added=20to=20our=20email=20list,=20we'll=20add=20your=20=
email=20address=20
to
=20our=20contacts=20list,=20and=20whenever=20we=20have=20a=20new=20announce=
ment,=20
we'll
=20email=20it=20to=20you.=20If=20you'd=20like=20to=20recieve=20announcement=
s=20from=20us,
=20please=20leave=20us=20your=20name=20and=20email=20address=20at=20the=20a=
bove=20email.=20
The
=20email=20address=20once=20again=20is=20ariannas.art at gmail.com.=20Arianna=
=20has=20
two
=20n's=20and=20there's=20no=20apostrophe=20before=20the=20s.=20Hope=20to=20=
hear=20from=20
you
=20soon!
=20Chris
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=209
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2001:57:40=20+0000
=20From:=20"Salisbury,=20Justin=20Mark"=20<SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu
=20To:=20"nabs-l at nfbnet.org"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20Message-ID:
=20
<88680D55F430CF4593F993CADE7B0EDA02284C94 at SN2PRD0102MB127.prod.ex
changelabs.com
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3D"Windows-1252"
=20I=20attended=20the=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20for=20two=20=
consecutive=20
summers
=20with
=20Justin=20Young,=20and=20I=20would=20like=20to=20give=20my=20personal=20t=
ake=20on=20it.
=20Justin=20and=20I=20had=20this=20joke=20where=20we=20started=20the=20Just=
in=20
Corporation,=20an
=20underground=20mafia=20meat=20market.=20=20It=20was=20an=20amazing=20soci=
al=20
experience=20with
=20all
=20of=20the=20other=20students=20involved.=20=20If=20only=20considering=20t=
he=20social=20
frontier,
=20I
=20highly=20recommend=20it.
=20I=20attended=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20(YIT)=20program=20in=2020=
06=20and=20
then=20the
=20Real
=20World=20Work=20Experience=20(RWWE)=20in=202007.=20=20I=20valued=20every=
=20bit=20of=20the
=20experience
=20both=20years,=20but=20I=20want=20to=20first=20make=20clear=20a=20fundame=
ntal=20
disagreement
=20that
=20I
=20now=20have=20with=20the=20training=20that=20I=20received.=20=20I=20lost=
=20my=20vision=20in=20
2005,=20so
=20I
=20was=20newly=20blinded=20when=20I=20went=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=
=20They=20
taught=20me=20to
=20use
=20my=20remaining=20vision=20as=20much=20as=20possible=20and=20taught=20me=
=20ways=20to=20
use=20my
=20remaining=20vision.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20taught=20me=20ho=
w=20to=20do=20
everything
=20non-visually.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20occluded=20(blindfolde=
d)=20me=20
during=20O&M
=20lessons=20and=20other=20lessons=20in=20general.=20=20I=20learned=20a=20l=
ot=20of=20great=20
things,
=20but
=20blindness=20skills=20should=20be=20about=20knowing=20how=20to=20do=20thi=
ngs=20
non-visually.
=20I
=20am=20now=20planning=20to=20attend=20an=20NFB=20training=20center=20(Loui=
siana=20
Center=20for
=20the
=20Blind,=20Blind,=20Inc,=20or=20Colorado=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind),=20=
where=20I=20
will=20learn
=20all
=20of=20the=20skills=20I=20need=20non-visually.=20=20Also=20understand=20th=
at=20I=20have=20
a=20stable
=20visual=20field=20and=20acuity.
=20I=20am=20much=20better=20off=20having=20gone=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Cent=
er=20than=20I=20
was=20before
=20I
=20went=20there,=20but=20it=20wasn't=20the=20best=20possible=20program=20th=
at=20I=20could=20
have
=20chosen.
=20In=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20program,=20they=20worked=20with=20u=
s=20on=20our=20
confidence
=20and=20social=20skills.=20=20They=20taught=20us=20some=20basic=20cooking=
=20skills,=20
how=20to=20do
=20laundry,=20a=20lot=20of=20O&M,=20housekeeping=20skills,=20how=20to=20use=
=20low=20
vision
=20devices,
=20and=20they=20had=20a=20class=20called=20"personal=20management,"=20where=
=20they=20
taught=20us
=20about=20shaving,=20tying=20a=20tie,=20sewing=20a=20button,=20and=20thing=
s=20like=20
that.=20=20If=20we
=20already=20knew=20how=20to=20do=20something,=20they=20would=20watch=20us=
=20do=20it=20and=20
suggest
=20modifications=20in=20technique=20if=20necessary.=20=20They=20also=20had=
=20a=20class=20
called
=20adaptive=20technology,=20where=20they=20introduced=20me=20to=20ZoomText=
=20and=20
other
=20students
=20with=20less=20vision=20than=20me=20to=20Jaws.=20=20We=20had=20a=20lot=20=
of=20great=20group=20
activities
=20and=20social=20opportunities=20that=20I=20will=20remember=20for=20a=20lo=
ng=20time.=20=20
We=20also
=20saw
=20a=20counselor=20while=20we=20were=20there=20on=20a=20weekly=20basis=20to=
=20make=20sure=20
that=20we
=20were
=20adjusting=20well=20to=20the=20environment.=20=20Another=20activity,=20ca=
lled=20
"people
=20talk,"
=20was=20a=20time=20that=20we=20all=20gathered=20to=20talk=20about=20certai=
n=20issues=20
that=20often
=20led
=20to=20self-awareness=20and=20confidence=20building.
=20In=20the=20Real=20World=20Work=20Experience=20program,=20we=20were=20eva=
luated=20on=20
our
=20skills
=20for=20a=20week=20and=20prepared=20for=20a=20month=20of=20work.=20=20Once=
=20we=20started=20
work,=20we
=20worked=20for=20three=20days=20per=20week=20in=20volunteer=20positions,=20=
and=20we=20
were=20paid
=20by
=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=20The=20other=20two=20days=20were=20used=20fo=
r=20field=20
trips=20and
=20training=20days.=20=20Again,=20it=20was=20an=20amazing=20experience.=20=
=20Different=20
students
=20were=20placed=20in=20different=20positions=20in=20the=20Boston=20area.=20=
=20We=20were
=20responsible
=20for=20using=20public=20transportation=20to=20get=20to=20and=20from=20our=
=20work=20
sites.=20=20We
=20had
=20two=20job=20coaches=20in=20charge=20of=20about=2010=20or=2012=20students=
=20in=20the=20
program,=20so
=20they
=20weren't=20with=20us=20all=20the=20time.=20=20They=20were=20sighted=20peo=
ple=20who=20
watched=20us=20at
=20a
=20distance=20while=20we=20were=20in=20the=20environment.
=20At=20the=20beginning=20of=20the=20RWWE=20program,=20I=20met=20a=20few=20=
adults=20who=20
were=20at=20the
=20end
=20of=20their=20adult=20program,=20which=20runs=20during=20the=20regular=20=
school=20
year.=20=20They
=20spoke=20well=20of=20their=20program,=20but=20they=20told=20me=20that=20t=
here=20wasn't=20
an
=20aggressive=20Braille=20standard=20that=20they=20had=20to=20meet=20in=20t=
heir=20
program.=20=20They
=20studied=20it=20a=20little=20bit,=20but=20they=20didn't=20become=20what=20=
an=20NFB=20
training
=20center
=20would=20push=20them=20to=20become.=20=20Also,=20students=20at=20the=20Ca=
rroll=20Center=20
live=20in
=20a
=20dorm=20and=20eat=20at=20a=20dining=20hall,=20which=20gives=20them=20a=20=
comfortable=20
crutch,=20but
=20it
=20does=20not=20push=20them=20to=20really=20be=20independent.=20=20When=20y=
ou=20walk=20into=20
the
=20dining
=20hall,=20you=20are=20expected=20to=20put=20your=20cane=20in=20a=20docking=
=20station=20and=20
navigate
=20the=20dining=20hall=20without=20it=20by=20walking=20in=20either=20a=20cl=
ockwise=20or
=20counter-clockwise=20direction.
=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20is=20a=20good=20training=20center=20with=20good=
=20people=20in=20
it,=20but
=20it
=20is=20not=20the=20very=20best=20option=20available.
=20I'd=20be=20happy=20to=20answer=20specific=20questions=20on-=20or=20off-l=
ist.
=20Justin
=20Justin=20M.=20Salisbury
=20Undergraduate=20Student
=20The=20University=20Honors=20Program
=20East=20Carolina=20University
=20salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
=20?Never=20doubt=20that=20a=20small=20group=20of=20thoughtful,=20committed=
=20
citizens=20can
=20change
=20the=20world;=20indeed,=20it?s=20the=20only=20thing=20that=20ever=20has.?=
=20=20=20=20
?MARGARET=20MEAD
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2010
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2023:03:06=20-0400
=20From:=20David=20Dodge=20<daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CAGiF6ME1fOYjdkn5e3Zf+52FuktSB=3DYARF2eMMwuPx792fO6ig at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3Dwindows-1252
=20Thanks=20so=20much.=20He=20is=20doing=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20=
program=20and=20
is
=20interested=20in=20doing=20some=20other=20programs=20as=20well.=20Good=20=
to=20know=20
you=20had
=20very
=20positive=20experiences.
=20David
=20----------------------------------
=20David=20Dodge
=20Doctoral=20Degree=20Granting=20Institutions=20Rep.
=20State=20University=20of=20New=20York=20Student=20Assembly
=20English=20Major
=20University=20at=20Buffalo
=20306=20Clemens=20Hall
=20Buffalo,=20NY=2014260
=20daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20On=20Sat,=20Aug=2013,=202011=20at=207:00=20PM,=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.=
net>=20
wrote:
=20David,
=20What=20program=20is=20your=20friend=20attending?=20Is=20it=20the=20main=
=20
rehabilitation
=20adult
=20program?=20They=20also=20have=20one=20for=20work=20experience=20called=20=
the=20
vocational
=20transition=20program.=20=20I=20can=20only=20comment=20briefly=20upon=20t=
he=20center.=20
I=20have
=20a
=20short=20summer=20experience=20to=20comment=20on.
=20I=20would=20be=20interested=20to=20hear=20any=20feedback=20from=20people=
=20in=20the=20
adult
=20program
=20because=20I=20am=20thinking=20of=20going=20back=20for=20training.
=20Like=20Justin=20Young,=20I=20attended=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition,=20=
Yit,=20
Program.
=20I=20was=20there=20in=20summer=202001.=20Back=20then=20it=20was=20a=20six=
=20week=20program;=20
now
=20it?s
=20a
=20shorter=20program=20since=20they=20have=20=20a=20new=20program=20called
=20Transition=20to=20College=20that=20they=20run=20for=20four=20weeks=20plu=
s=20two=20
weeks=20the
=20students=20attend=20the=20computer=20program=20for=20a=20total=20of=20si=
x=20weeks.=20=20
Had=20I
=20known
=20about=20the=20Real=20World=20of=20Work=20experience,=20RWWE
=20program,=20I=20might=20have=20attended=20that=20during=20my=20high=20sch=
ool=20years.=20
The
=20teens
=20in=20the=20program=20all=20seemed=20to=20enjoy=20their=20jobs.
=20That=20would=20have=20been=20a=20good=20way=20to=20get=20work=20experien=
ce=20and=20
socialize.=20=20I
=20was=20friends=20with=20the=20RWWE=20students=20though.
=20In=202001=20RWWE=20students=20went=20to=20work=20three=20days=20=20a=20w=
eek=20with=20one=20
day=20of
=20field
=20trips=20and=20the=20other=20day=20of=20classes=20at=20the=20center.=20St=
udents=20in=20
YIT=20and
=20RWWE
=20had=20afternoon/evening=20activities=20as=20well=20as=20field=20trips=20=
together.
=20We=20also=20had=20meals=20together.=20I=20guess=20that=20is=20why=20we=20=
=20got=20to=20know=20
each
=20other
=20since=20there=20was=20some=20overlap=20in=20experience.
=20In=20the=20Youth=20in=20transition=20program,=20it=20was=20focussed=20on=
=20daily=20
living
=20skills.
=20Its=20like=20=20the=20youth=20version=20of=20the=20rehab=20program.
=20Classes=20were=20from=209:00=20-=203:00.
=20Before=20that=20there=20were=20announcements=20at=208:45.=20In=20the=20a=
fternoon,=20
students
=20had=20club=20activities=20and=20in=20the=20evening
=20there=20were=20more=20activities=20and=20some=20of=20them=20were=20off=20=
campus.
=20In=20the=20adult=20program=20at=203:00=20is=20a=20makeup=20class
=20period.=20=20I=20am=20glad=20I=20went=20to=20YIT=20for=20the=20experienc=
e=20of=20the=20extra
=20curriculars=20and=20socializing.=20But=20they=20went=20over=20a=20lot=20=
of=20stuff=20I=20
already
=20knew.=20=20I=20wonder=20if=20the=20=20adult=20program=20is=20more=20indi=
vidualized=20
with=20a=20good
=20evaluation=20of=20skills=20before=20you=20learn=20skills=20in=20class.
=20Some=20of=20the=20classes=20were=20communication,=20personal=20managemen=
t,=20
mobility,
=20and
=20information=20technology.=20=20In=20communication=20some=20students=20le=
arned=20
braille
=20but
=20I=20already=20knew=20it.=20They=20showed=20us=20some=20labeling=20produc=
ts=20and=20how=20
to
=20erase
=20a
=20tape=20if=20you=20recorded=20on=20it.=20I=20don't=20think=20I=20got=20mu=
ch=20out=20of=20that=20
class.
=20In
=20personal=20management,=20Ellie=20was=20the=20instructor.=20That=20class=
=20
focuses=20on
=20cooking,=20personal=20care=20=20and=20housekeeping=20skills.=20I=20pract=
iced=20
cutting=20and
=20spreading=20there.=20I=20had=20been=20taught=20by=20a=20rehab=20teacher=
=20at=20home,=20
but=20found
=20Ellie's=20guidance=20helpful.=20She=20taught=20hand=20over=20=20hand=20a=
nd=20
explained
=20things.
=20There=20was=20another=20student=20in=20my=20class.=20=20We=20made
=20cookies.=20She=20also=20went=20over=20folding=20money=20but=20I=20alread=
y=20knew=20
that.=20We
=20had
=20a
=20lesson=20on=20putting=20on=20lipstick=20too.
=20Some=20students=20addressed=20personal=20care,=20but=20I=20was=20fine=20=
with=20
shaving=20and
=20bathing=20as=20a=20teen.=20We=20did=20more,=20but=20I=20cannot=20remembe=
r=20it=20all.
=20IIn=20Orientation=20and=20mobility,=20I=20learned=20and=20practiced=20st=
reet=20
crossing
=20and
=20went=20on=20the=20city=20bus.=20That=20was=20one=20on=20one;=20not=20all=
=20students=20went=20
on=20the
=20bus.
=20I=20went=20to=20the=20Boston=20area=20to=20walk=20around;=20I=20think=20=
we=20took=20the=20
bus=20to
=20Newton
=20center=20which=20is=20a=20=20stip=20shopping=20center=20a=20few=20miles=
=20from=20the=20
center.=20I
=20had
=20practice=20buying=20things=20in=20the=20store=20with=20customer=20servic=
e=20
assistance.
=20The=20activities=20at=20night=20were=20fun.=20I=20cannot=20remember=20th=
e=20day=20
ones.=20It=20was
=20ten=20years=20ago!
=20I=20only=20remember=20an=20afternoon=20club=20called=20clay=20works=20wh=
ere=20we=20
made=20clay
=20objects=20and=20painted=20them.
=20I=20think=20one=20afternoon=20club=20was=20recreation=20where=20we=20pla=
yed=20beep=20
ball=20or
=20goal
=20ball.
=20On=20most=20fridays=20nights,=20everyone=20had=20the=20option=20to=20go=
=20to=20the=20
lake=20to
=20swim,
=20but=20I=20don't=20think=20I=20went;=20I=20was=20too=20tired.=20=20On=20M=
ondays=20was=20our=20
shopping
=20night=20where=20we=20went=20to=20a=20local=20mall.=20On=20Wednesdays=20w=
e=20went=20
canoeing.
=20We=20had=20field=20trips=20once=20a=20week=20instead=20of=20classes;=20t=
hose=20were=20
usually
=20fun.
=20I=20had=20not=20had=20some=20of=20those=20experiences.=20We=20went=20to=
=20a=20dance=20
studio=20where
=20they=20showed=20us=20some=20dance=20moves=20and=20let=20us=20explore=20d=
ancer's=20
shoes=20and
=20outfits;=20since=20we=20could=20not=20see=20what=20they=20wore,=20I=20gu=
ess=20they=20
wanted=20us
=20to
=20know=20what=20dancers=20wore.=20We=20also=20went=20to=20Cape=20Cod,=20a=
=20horse=20farm,=20
and
=20museums.
=20I=20still=20keep=20in=20touch=20with=20a=20friend=20from=20the=20center=
=20and=20I=20saw=20
one
=20student
=20who=20was=20down=20here=20in=20the=20next=20county=20working=20as=20a=20=
teacher=20of=20the=20
vision
=20impaired.
=20I=20hope=20your=20friend=20learns=20something=20valuable=20from=20the=20=
center.
=20-----Original=20Message-----=20From:=20David=20Dodge
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20August=2012,=202011=2011:39=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Carol=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind?
=20Hello=20Everyone,
=20A=20friend=20of=20mine=20is=20going=20to=20be=20going=20to=20the=20Carol=
=20Center=20for=20
the=20Blind
=20in
=20Newton=20Massachusetts.=20Does=20anyone=20have=20experience=20with=20thi=
s=20
specific
=20center?
=20I'd=20just=20like=20some=20general=20feedback.=20Thanks=20so=20much.
=20David
=20------------------------------**----
=20David=20Dodge
=20Doctoral=20Degree=20Granting=20Institutions=20Rep.
=20State=20University=20of=20New=20York=20Student=20Assembly
=20English=20Major
=20University=20at=20Buffalo
=20306=20Clemens=20Hall
=20Buffalo,=20NY=2014260
=20daviddod at buffalo.edu
=20______________________________**_________________
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=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2022:59:07=20-0500
=20From:=20Gabe=20Cazares=20<gcazares10 at gmail.com
=20To:=20members=20<members at nfbtx.org>,=20tabs_students
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<tabs_students at googlegroups.com>,=20=20=20=20=20=
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=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20move=20and=20a=20corrected=20link
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=20From:=20David=20Andrews=20<dandrews at visi.com
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2022:03:38=20-0500
=20Subject:=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Fwd:=20Thunder=20Dog=20on=20the=20mov=
e=20and=20
a
=20corrected
=20link
=20To:=20nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
Hello,
Earlier=20this=20month=20I=20emailed=20many=20of=20you=20announcing=20that=
=20my=20new=20
book,
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ph=20of=20
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Ground
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=20to=20tell=20the=20
world
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its=20release=20and=20please=20encourage=20your=20friends,=20family,=20and=
=20
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order=20Thunder=20Dog.=20=20I=20would=20appreciate=20your=20help=20very=20m=
uch.
Now,=20I=20am=20excited=20to=20tell=20you=20that=20in=20its=20first=20week=
=20of=20release=20
it=20has
climbed=20to=20the=20rank=20of=20#29=20on=20the=20combined=20New=20York=20T=
imes=20Best=20
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one
please
visit=20www.michaelhingson.com=20and=20click=20on=20"Order=20Thunder=20Dog"=
.=20=20
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and=20Noble=20
charts.
If
you=20want=20to=20read=20the=20story=20of=20Roselle=20and=20me=20as=20well=
=20as=20learn=20
some=20life
lessons=20around
9-11=20you=20can=20now=20purchase=20the=20cd=20audio=20book=20or=20a=20prin=
t=20book=20at
bookstores.
Better=20yet,=20as=20mentioned=20above,=20you=20can=20visit=20
www.michaelhingson.com=20and
purchase=20copies.=20=20The=20pawtograph=20from=20Roselle=20is=20especially=
=20
meaningful=20to
me,=20and=20I=20hope=20to=20you,=20because=20it=20was=20obtained=20just=20s=
ix=20days=20
before
=20Roselle
passed=20on=20June=2026,=202011.
The=20books=20reviews=20continue=20to=20be=20pretty=20tremendous.=20=20I=20=
hope=20that=20
"Thunder
Dog"=20will=20help=20inspire=20people=20as=20raise=20their=20awareness=20ab=
out=20
blindness.
The
book=20is=20available=20in=20audio=20cd,=20and=20print=20editions,=20both=20=
available=20
at
www.michaelhingson.com.=20=20The=20audio=20edition=20has=20some=20extras=20=
including=20a
speech=20I=20gave=20last=20year=20at=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20t=
he=20Blind
convention
in=20Dallas=20before=203,000=20blind=20people.
I=20also=20wish=20your=20help=20on=20another=20front.=20=20In=20June,=20Ros=
elle=20was=20
nominated
as
a
candidate=20to=20receive=20the=20American=20Dog=20Hero=20award=20from=20the=
=20
American=20Humane
Association.=20=20Her=20nomination=20has=20progressed=20and=20she=20is=20no=
w=20one=20of=20
the
=20eight
finalists.=20=20The=20link=20I=20sent=20you=20earlier=20this=20month=20appa=
rently=20had=20
a
problem.
I=20have=20corrected=20the=20difficulty.=20=20Again=20I=20am=20asking=20you=
=20to=20take=20
the=20time
and
vote=20for=20her=20at=20
www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458.
You=20can=20vote=20daily=20through=20September=2030,=202011.=20=20I=20would=
=20
appreciate=20you
spreading=20the=20word=20about=20this=20and=20helping=20Roselle=20win.=20=20=
A=20victory=20
for
Roselle=20includes=20a=20substantial=20donation=20to=20Guide=20Dogs=20for=20=
the=20
Blind,=20her
Alma=20Mater.
Thanks=20for=20all=20your=20encouragement=20and=20support=20over=20the=20ye=
ars.=20=20As=20
always,
if
you=20know=20of=20anyone=20or=20any=20organization=20needing=20a=20speaker=
=20I=20am=20
always
looking
for=20opportunities=20and=20would=20appreciate=20you=20passing=20on=20my=20=
name=20and=20
contact
information.=20=20I=20hope=20all=20is=20well=20with=20you.
Best,
Mike=20Hingson
The=20Michael=20Hingson=20Group,=20INC.
=20=20"Speaking=20with=20Vision"
Michael=20Hingson,=20President
(415)=20827-4084
info at michaelhingson.com
To=20order=20Michael=20Hingson's=20new=20book,=20Thunder=20Dog,=20and=20che=
ck=20on=20
Michael
Hingson's=20speaking=20availability=20for=20your=20next=20event=20please=20=
visit:
www.michaelhingson.com
Please=20vote=20for=20Roselle=20for=20the=20title=20of=20American=20Dog=20H=
ero=20of=20the=20
year=20at
www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458
To=20learn=20about=20the=20KnfbReader=20Mobile=20please=20visit:
http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com
=20_______________________________________________
=20Nfbnet-members-list=20mailing=20list
=20Nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
=20--
=20Gabriel=20M.=20Cazares,
=202nd=20Vice=20President
=20Texas=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20-=20TABS
=20(A=20Division=20of=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20of=
=20Texas)
=20www.nfbtx.org/tabs
=20Phone:=20713-581-0619
=20"The=20world=20is=20full=20of=20willing=20people;=20some=20willing=20to=
=20work,=20the=20
rest
=20willing=20to=20let=20them."
=20-Robert=20Frost
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2012
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2004:57:26=20-0600
=20From:=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com
=20To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20AMerican=20Hero=20Dog=20Award
=20Message-ID:=20<4e47aa32.87cee70a.3a4e.ffffa021 at mx.google.com
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3Diso-8859-1;=20format=3Dflowed
=20Hi,=20guys.
=20I=20read=20the=20messages=20from=20Michael=20Hingson=20and=20am=20very=20=
sad=20to=20hear
=20of=20Roselle's=20passing.=20=20The=20posthumous=20wish=20I'm=20sure=20wo=
uld=20be=20for
=20her=20to=20have=20the=20American=20Hero=20Dog=20award.=20=20How=20many=20=
of=20you=20guys
=20have=20voted=20for=20her?=20=20I'm=20just=20about=20ready=20to=20read=20=
Thunder=20Dog
=20myself.=20=20Anyway,=20if=20anybody=20has=20voted,=20great.=20=20If=20yo=
u=20haven't,=20I
=20have=20heard=20Roselle's=20story=20last=20year=20in=20Dallas,=20and=20I'=
ve=20been
=20thinking=20about=20this=20whole=20thing=20for=20the=20whole=20year=20sin=
ce=20I've
=20heard=20it.=20=20I=20remember=20the=20eloquence=20Mr.=20Hingson=20used=20=
in
=20portraying=20Roselle=20as=20a=20true=20American=20Hero=20Dog.=20=20So=20=
let's=20all
=20vote=20for=20her,=20if=20not=20for=20a=20true=20award=20but=20a=20posthu=
mous=20one.
=20Thanks.
=20Beth
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2013
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2007:08:02=20-0500
=20From:=20"Peter=20Donahue"=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
=20To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20Message-ID:=20<003501cc5a7a$d1596b30$9e010b43 at yourfsyly0jtwn
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20=20=20=20=20=20=20charset=3D"Windows-1252"=
=20Hello=20Justin=20and=20everyone,
=20=20=20=20=20For=20the=20reasons=20you=20point=20out=20below=20I=20wouldn=
't=20mess=20with=20the=20
Carroll
=20Center=20under=20any=20circumstances.=20I'm=20originally=20from=20
Massachusetts=20and=20saw
=20the=20same=20kind=20of=20results=20you=20mentioned=20from=20students=20w=
ho=20went=20
there.=20What
=20can=20you=20expect=20from=20an=20agency=20whose=20founder=20viewed=20bli=
ndness=20as=20
a
=20"Dying."
=20If=20you=20want=20good=20blindness=20training=20go=20to=20an=20NFB=20cen=
ter.=20Get=20
what=20you
=20need
=20once=20and=20it=20will=20last=20you=20a=20life=20time.
=20Peter=20Donahue
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Salisbury,=20Justin=20Mark"=20<SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu
=20To:=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20August=2013,=202011=208:57=20PM
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20I=20attended=20the=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20for=20two=20=
consecutive=20
summers
=20with
=20Justin=20Young,=20and=20I=20would=20like=20to=20give=20my=20personal=20t=
ake=20on=20it.
=20Justin=20and=20I=20had=20this=20joke=20where=20we=20started=20the=20Just=
in=20
Corporation,=20an
=20underground=20mafia=20meat=20market.=20=20It=20was=20an=20amazing=20soci=
al=20
experience=20with
=20all
=20of=20the=20other=20students=20involved.=20=20If=20only=20considering=20t=
he=20social=20
frontier,
=20I
=20highly=20recommend=20it.
=20I=20attended=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20(YIT)=20program=20in=2020=
06=20and=20
then=20the
=20Real
=20World=20Work=20Experience=20(RWWE)=20in=202007.=20=20I=20valued=20every=
=20bit=20of=20the
=20experience
=20both=20years,=20but=20I=20want=20to=20first=20make=20clear=20a=20fundame=
ntal=20
disagreement
=20that
=20I
=20now=20have=20with=20the=20training=20that=20I=20received.=20=20I=20lost=
=20my=20vision=20in=20
2005,=20so
=20I
=20was=20newly=20blinded=20when=20I=20went=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=
=20They=20
taught=20me=20to
=20use
=20my=20remaining=20vision=20as=20much=20as=20possible=20and=20taught=20me=
=20ways=20to=20
use=20my
=20remaining=20vision.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20taught=20me=20ho=
w=20to=20do=20
everything
=20non-visually.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20occluded=20(blindfolde=
d)=20me=20
during=20O&M
=20lessons=20and=20other=20lessons=20in=20general.=20=20I=20learned=20a=20l=
ot=20of=20great=20
things,
=20but
=20blindness=20skills=20should=20be=20about=20knowing=20how=20to=20do=20thi=
ngs=20
non-visually.
=20I
=20am=20now=20planning=20to=20attend=20an=20NFB=20training=20center=20(Loui=
siana=20
Center=20for
=20the
=20Blind,=20Blind,=20Inc,=20or=20Colorado=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind),=20=
where=20I=20
will=20learn
=20all
=20of=20the=20skills=20I=20need=20non-visually.=20=20Also=20understand=20th=
at=20I=20have=20
a=20stable
=20visual=20field=20and=20acuity.
=20I=20am=20much=20better=20off=20having=20gone=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Cent=
er=20than=20I=20
was=20before
=20I
=20went=20there,=20but=20it=20wasn't=20the=20best=20possible=20program=20th=
at=20I=20could=20
have
=20chosen.
=20In=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20program,=20they=20worked=20with=20u=
s=20on=20our=20
confidence
=20and=20social=20skills.=20=20They=20taught=20us=20some=20basic=20cooking=
=20skills,=20
how=20to=20do
=20laundry,=20a=20lot=20of=20O&M,=20housekeeping=20skills,=20how=20to=20use=
=20low=20
vision
=20devices,
=20and=20they=20had=20a=20class=20called=20"personal=20management,"=20where=
=20they=20
taught=20us
=20about=20shaving,=20tying=20a=20tie,=20sewing=20a=20button,=20and=20thing=
s=20like=20
that.=20=20If=20we
=20already=20knew=20how=20to=20do=20something,=20they=20would=20watch=20us=
=20do=20it=20and=20
suggest
=20modifications=20in=20technique=20if=20necessary.=20=20They=20also=20had=
=20a=20class=20
called
=20adaptive=20technology,=20where=20they=20introduced=20me=20to=20ZoomText=
=20and=20
other
=20students
=20with=20less=20vision=20than=20me=20to=20Jaws.=20=20We=20had=20a=20lot=20=
of=20great=20group=20
activities
=20and=20social=20opportunities=20that=20I=20will=20remember=20for=20a=20lo=
ng=20time.=20=20
We=20also
=20saw
=20a=20counselor=20while=20we=20were=20there=20on=20a=20weekly=20basis=20to=
=20make=20sure=20
that=20we
=20were
=20adjusting=20well=20to=20the=20environment.=20=20Another=20activity,=20ca=
lled=20
"people
=20talk,"
=20was=20a=20time=20that=20we=20all=20gathered=20to=20talk=20about=20certai=
n=20issues=20
that=20often
=20led
=20to=20self-awareness=20and=20confidence=20building.
=20In=20the=20Real=20World=20Work=20Experience=20program,=20we=20were=20eva=
luated=20on=20
our
=20skills
=20for=20a=20week=20and=20prepared=20for=20a=20month=20of=20work.=20=20Once=
=20we=20started=20
work,=20we
=20worked=20for=20three=20days=20per=20week=20in=20volunteer=20positions,=20=
and=20we=20
were=20paid
=20by
=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=20The=20other=20two=20days=20were=20used=20fo=
r=20field=20
trips=20and
=20training=20days.=20=20Again,=20it=20was=20an=20amazing=20experience.=20=
=20Different=20
students
=20were=20placed=20in=20different=20positions=20in=20the=20Boston=20area.=20=
=20We=20were
=20responsible
=20for=20using=20public=20transportation=20to=20get=20to=20and=20from=20our=
=20work=20
sites.=20=20We
=20had
=20two=20job=20coaches=20in=20charge=20of=20about=2010=20or=2012=20students=
=20in=20the=20
program,=20so
=20they
=20weren't=20with=20us=20all=20the=20time.=20=20They=20were=20sighted=20peo=
ple=20who=20
watched=20us=20at
=20a
=20distance=20while=20we=20were=20in=20the=20environment.
=20At=20the=20beginning=20of=20the=20RWWE=20program,=20I=20met=20a=20few=20=
adults=20who=20
were=20at=20the
=20end
=20of=20their=20adult=20program,=20which=20runs=20during=20the=20regular=20=
school=20
year.=20=20They
=20spoke=20well=20of=20their=20program,=20but=20they=20told=20me=20that=20t=
here=20wasn't=20
an
=20aggressive=20Braille=20standard=20that=20they=20had=20to=20meet=20in=20t=
heir=20
program.=20=20They
=20studied=20it=20a=20little=20bit,=20but=20they=20didn't=20become=20what=20=
an=20NFB=20
training
=20center
=20would=20push=20them=20to=20become.=20=20Also,=20students=20at=20the=20Ca=
rroll=20Center=20
live=20in
=20a
=20dorm=20and=20eat=20at=20a=20dining=20hall,=20which=20gives=20them=20a=20=
comfortable=20
crutch,=20but
=20it
=20does=20not=20push=20them=20to=20really=20be=20independent.=20=20When=20y=
ou=20walk=20into=20
the
=20dining
=20hall,=20you=20are=20expected=20to=20put=20your=20cane=20in=20a=20docking=
=20station=20and=20
navigate
=20the=20dining=20hall=20without=20it=20by=20walking=20in=20either=20a=20cl=
ockwise=20or
=20counter-clockwise=20direction.
=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20is=20a=20good=20training=20center=20with=20good=
=20people=20in=20
it,=20but
=20it
=20is=20not=20the=20very=20best=20option=20available.
=20I'd=20be=20happy=20to=20answer=20specific=20questions=20on-=20or=20off-l=
ist.
=20Justin
=20Justin=20M.=20Salisbury
=20Undergraduate=20Student
=20The=20University=20Honors=20Program
=20East=20Carolina=20University
=20salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
=20?Never=20doubt=20that=20a=20small=20group=20of=20thoughtful,=20committed=
=20
citizens=20can
=20change
=20the=20world;=20indeed,=20it?s=20the=20only=20thing=20that=20ever=20has.?=
=20=20=20=20
?MARGARET=20MEAD
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
=20
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pdonahue2
%40satx.rr.com
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2014
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2010:32:38=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20sending=20a=20message=20to=20all=20Gmail=20contact=
s?
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxEy+0j1-52etjq-3ATJ8ZsQs060VLbimFrvQ_ebaeZtnw at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hi=20everyone,
=20I=20have=20a=20question=20for=20all=20Gmail=20users.=20Is=20there=20a=20=
way=20that=20I=20can=20
send
=20a=20message=20to=20all=20Gmail=20contacts=20at=20the=20same=20time?=20Is=
=20there=20some=20
kind
=20of=20"send=20to=20all"=20button=20like=20there=20is=20on=20my=20mom's=20=
Yahoo=20account?=20
I'm
=20asking=20because,=20as=20I=20posted=20last=20night,=20our=20business=20(=
Arianna's=20
Art,
=20Inc.)=20has=20created=20a=20new=20Gmail=20account=20where=20people=20can=
=20send=20us
=20questions,=20feedback,=20orders,=20etc.=20We'd=20also=20like=20to=20crea=
te=20a=20
contacts
=20list=20for=20our=20Gmail=20account,=20and=20send=20out=20an=20email=20to=
=20all=20our=20
contacts
=20when=20we=20have=20a=20new=20announcement=20or=20a=20piece=20of=20news.=
=20So,=20can=20I=20do=20
this
=20in=20Gmail=20without=20Google=20group?=20If=20I=20can't=20do=20this=20wi=
th=20JAWS=20in=20
Basic
=20HTML=20mode,=20I'll=20just=20create=20a=20list=20on=20Google=20Groups.=20=
But,=20can=20I=20
send
=20one=20message=20to=20all=20contacts?=20Thanks!
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2015
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2010:34:34=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Cc:=20Blind=20Talk=20Mailing=20List=20<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20Mentoring=20Project:=
=20
mentors
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20flier
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxHG7+DGAjuu2LQum16Gut=3DrtNmez3SOHx9G_g0SxmbJ7A at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20----------=20Forwarded=20message=20----------
=20From:=20"Laura=20Glowacki,=20NABS=20First=20Vice=20President"
=20<firstvicepresident.acbstudents at gmail.com
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2008:38:39=20-0500
=20Subject:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20Mentoring=20Project:=20mentors=20flier
=20To:=20"Discussion=20list=20for=20NABS,=20National=20Alliance=20of=20Blin=
d=20
Students."
=20<nabs at acb.org
=20*Employment=20Mentoring=20Project*
=20*Seeking=20Professionals=20Who=20Are=20Blind=20*
=20**
=20Remember=20the=20challenges=20you=20faced=20in=20finding=20your=20first=
=20job??
=20Would=20you=20like=20to=20help=20a=20college=20student=20who=20is=20also=
=20blind=20begin=20
their
=20career=20in=20a=20profession=20similar=20to=20yours??
=20We=20are=20conducting=20research=20to=20see=20if=20pairing=20students=20=
who=20are=20
blind=20with
=20mentors=20in=20their=20career=20fields=20will=20help=20them=20find=20emp=
loyment.
=20*BENEFITS*
=20?Opportunity=20to=20mentor=20a=20college=20student=20who=20is=20blind=20=
and=20is=20
interested
=20in=20working=20in=20your=20profession
=20?Assist=20in=20research=20that=20seeks=20to=20benefit=20the=20blind=20co=
mmunity
=20*RESPONSIBILITIES*
=20?Participate=20from=20January=202012=20through=20up=20to=2012=20months=20=
after=20
your=20mentee
=20graduates
=20?Help=20your=20mentee=20develop=20career=20goals=20and=20offer=20opportu=
nities=20
for=20job
=20shadowing
=20?Face-to-face=20contact=20with=20mentor=204=20hours=20a=20month
=20?Complete=20online=20activities=20monthly
=20**
=20*ELIGIBILITY*
=20?Legal=20blindness
=20?Currently=20employed=20or=20retired=20from=20a=20professional=20career
=20?Has=20basic=20computer=20literacy=20and=20knowledge=20of=20accessibilit=
y
=20software/hardware=20needed=20to=20access=20online=20materials
=20*INTERESTED?*
=20?*Complete=20the=20eligibility=20survey=20at
=20*http://tiny.cc/mentor-professionals**
=20**
=20?For=20more=20information,=20contact=20Jamie=20O'Mally=20at=20Mississipp=
i=20
State
=20University's=20Research=20&=20Training=20Center=20on=20Blindness=20&=20L=
ow=20
Vision=20at
=20rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu=20<mailto:rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu>or=20
toll=20free:
=201-800-675-7782
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2016
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2010:37:04=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,=20=20=20=20Blind=20Talk=20M=
ailing=20List
=20<blindtlk at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20mentoring=20project:=
=20
mentees
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20flier.
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxE+K3tVMPpAY7EGCZ=3DHS=3DDnyArud-Ya_H+nN1heA-v2aQ at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20----------=20Forwarded=20message=20----------
=20From:=20"Laura=20Glowacki,=20NABS=20First=20Vice=20President"
=20<firstvicepresident.acbstudents at gmail.com
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2008:37:29=20-0500
=20Subject:=20[nabs]=20Employment=20mentoring=20project:=20mentees=20flier.=
=20To:=20"Discussion=20list=20for=20NABS,=20National=20Alliance=20of=20Blin=
d=20
Students."
=20<nabs at acb.org
=20*Employment=20Mentoring=20Project*
=20*For=20Students=20Who=20Are=20Legally=20Blind*
=20**
=20Is=20finding=20a=20job=20your=20next=20big=20step=20after=20graduation??=
=20Would=20you=20like=20the=20opportunity=20to=20work=20with=20a=20mentor=20=
who=20is=20also=20
blind
=20and=20has=20experience=20in=20your=20profession=20of=20interest??
=20We=20are=20conducting=20research=20to=20see=20if=20pairing=20students=20=
who=20are=20
blind=20with
=20mentors=20in=20their=20career=20fields=20will=20help=20them=20find=20emp=
loyment.
=20*BENEFITS*
=20?Potential=20to=20work=20with=20a=20career=20mentor=20who=20is=20blind
=20?Access=20to=20career=20development=20resources
=20?Assist=20in=20research=20that=20seeks=20to=20benefit=20the=20blind=20co=
mmunity
=20*RESPONSIBILITIES*
=20?Participate=20from=20January=202012=20through=20up=20to=2012=20months=20=
after=20
graduation
=20?Face-to-face=20contact=20with=20mentor=204=20hours=20a=20month
=20?Complete=20online=20activities=20monthly
=20**
=20*ELIGIBILITY*
=20?Undergraduate=20or=20graduate=20student,=20under=20age=2035,=20who:
=20oIs=20legally=20blind
=20oPlans=20to=20graduate=20within=202-3=20semesters=20after=20January=2020=
12
=20oExpects=20to=20seek=20employment=20after=20graduation
=20oHas=20basic=20computer=20literacy=20and=20knowledge=20of=20accessibilit=
y
=20software/hardware=20needed=20to=20access=20online=20materials
=20*INTERESTED?*
=20?*Complete=20eligibility=20survey=20online=20at=20
*http://tiny.cc/mentor-students**
=20?For=20more=20information,=20contact=20Jamie=20O'Mally=20at=20Mississipp=
i=20
State
=20University's=20Research=20&=20Training=20Center=20on=20Blindness=20&=20L=
ow=20
Vision=20at
=20rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu=20<mailto:rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu>or=20
toll=20free:
=201-800-675-7782
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2017
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2010:50:16=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxHz5Gn0S-s3q_Yb4H47HMK7APhSbcsxpJHGLTNHU9Cs1A at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3Dwindows-1252
=20Hi=20everyone,
=20This=20is=20an=20interesting=20discussion,=20and=20one=20which=20I=20was=
=20planning=20
to
=20start=20in=20the=20near=20future.=20I=20agree=20with=20Peter's=20sentime=
nts=20about
=20attending=20an=20NFB=20training=20center=20(although=20I=20wouldn't=20re=
commend
=20BISM...=20well,=20maybe=20they've=20changed=20as=20their=20leadership=20=
has=20
changed,
=20from=20Loretta=20White=20to=20Amy=20Phelps)=20and=20I'm=20planning=20to=
=20attend=20a=20
center
=20next=20summer.=20I'm=20trying=20to=20decide=20which=20I=20will=20go=20to=
,=20Minnesota,
=20Louissianna,=20or=20Colorado.=20So,=20I'd=20like=20to=20know=20what=20al=
l=20of=20you=20
thought
=20were=20the=20pros=20and=20cons=20of=20each=20program.=20What=20did=20you=
=20like=20about=20
each
=20program,=20and=20what=20did=20you=20not=20like=20about=20it?=20What=20ar=
e=20the=20
differences
=20in=20the=20programs,=20as=20they're=20all=20NFB=20training=20centers?=20=
I'll=20most=20
likely
=20be=20going=20to=20the=20middle=20or=20high=20school=20program,=20I=20don=
't=20know=20
which.=20I'm
=20going=20into=208th=20grade=20at=20the=20end=20of=20this=20month,=20so=20=
will=20be=20going=20
into
=209th=20next=20August.=20So,=20which=20center=20would=20you=20recommend?=20=
Thanks!
=20Chris
=20On=208/14/11,=20Peter=20Donahue=20<pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>=20wrote:
=20Hello=20Justin=20and=20everyone,
=20=20=20=20=20For=20the=20reasons=20you=20point=20out=20below=20I=20wouldn=
't=20mess=20with=20the=20
Carroll
=20Center=20under=20any=20circumstances.=20I'm=20originally=20from=20
Massachusetts=20and
=20saw
=20the=20same=20kind=20of=20results=20you=20mentioned=20from=20students=20w=
ho=20went=20
there.
=20What
=20can=20you=20expect=20from=20an=20agency=20whose=20founder=20viewed=20bli=
ndness=20as=20
a
=20"Dying."
=20If=20you=20want=20good=20blindness=20training=20go=20to=20an=20NFB=20cen=
ter.=20Get=20
what=20you
=20need
=20once=20and=20it=20will=20last=20you=20a=20life=20time.
=20Peter=20Donahue
=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20"Salisbury,=20Justin=20Mark"=20<SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu
=20To:=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20August=2013,=202011=208:57=20PM
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind
=20I=20attended=20the=20Carroll=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind=20for=20two=20=
consecutive=20
summers
=20with
=20Justin=20Young,=20and=20I=20would=20like=20to=20give=20my=20personal=20t=
ake=20on=20it.
=20Justin=20and=20I=20had=20this=20joke=20where=20we=20started=20the=20Just=
in=20
Corporation,=20an
=20underground=20mafia=20meat=20market.=20=20It=20was=20an=20amazing=20soci=
al=20
experience=20with
=20all
=20of=20the=20other=20students=20involved.=20=20If=20only=20considering=20t=
he=20social
=20frontier,
=20I
=20highly=20recommend=20it.
=20I=20attended=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20(YIT)=20program=20in=2020=
06=20and=20
then=20the
=20Real
=20World=20Work=20Experience=20(RWWE)=20in=202007.=20=20I=20valued=20every=
=20bit=20of=20the
=20experience
=20both=20years,=20but=20I=20want=20to=20first=20make=20clear=20a=20fundame=
ntal=20
disagreement
=20that
=20I
=20now=20have=20with=20the=20training=20that=20I=20received.=20=20I=20lost=
=20my=20vision=20in=20
2005,
=20so
=20I
=20was=20newly=20blinded=20when=20I=20went=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=
=20They=20
taught=20me=20to
=20use
=20my=20remaining=20vision=20as=20much=20as=20possible=20and=20taught=20me=
=20ways=20to=20
use=20my
=20remaining=20vision.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20taught=20me=20ho=
w=20to=20do=20
everything
=20non-visually.=20=20I=20wish=20that=20they=20had=20occluded=20(blindfolde=
d)=20me=20
during=20O&M
=20lessons=20and=20other=20lessons=20in=20general.=20=20I=20learned=20a=20l=
ot=20of=20great=20
things,
=20but
=20blindness=20skills=20should=20be=20about=20knowing=20how=20to=20do=20thi=
ngs=20
non-visually.
=20I
=20am=20now=20planning=20to=20attend=20an=20NFB=20training=20center=20(Loui=
siana=20
Center=20for
=20the
=20Blind,=20Blind,=20Inc,=20or=20Colorado=20Center=20for=20the=20Blind),=20=
where=20I=20
will=20learn
=20all
=20of=20the=20skills=20I=20need=20non-visually.=20=20Also=20understand=20th=
at=20I=20have=20
a=20stable
=20visual=20field=20and=20acuity.
=20I=20am=20much=20better=20off=20having=20gone=20to=20the=20Carroll=20Cent=
er=20than=20I=20
was=20before
=20I
=20went=20there,=20but=20it=20wasn't=20the=20best=20possible=20program=20th=
at=20I=20could=20
have
=20chosen.
=20In=20the=20Youth=20in=20Transition=20program,=20they=20worked=20with=20u=
s=20on=20our
=20confidence
=20and=20social=20skills.=20=20They=20taught=20us=20some=20basic=20cooking=
=20skills,=20
how=20to=20do
=20laundry,=20a=20lot=20of=20O&M,=20housekeeping=20skills,=20how=20to=20use=
=20low=20
vision
=20devices,
=20and=20they=20had=20a=20class=20called=20"personal=20management,"=20where=
=20they=20
taught=20us
=20about=20shaving,=20tying=20a=20tie,=20sewing=20a=20button,=20and=20thing=
s=20like=20
that.=20=20If
=20we
=20already=20knew=20how=20to=20do=20something,=20they=20would=20watch=20us=
=20do=20it=20and=20
suggest
=20modifications=20in=20technique=20if=20necessary.=20=20They=20also=20had=
=20a=20class=20
called
=20adaptive=20technology,=20where=20they=20introduced=20me=20to=20ZoomText=
=20and=20
other
=20students
=20with=20less=20vision=20than=20me=20to=20Jaws.=20=20We=20had=20a=20lot=20=
of=20great=20group
=20activities
=20and=20social=20opportunities=20that=20I=20will=20remember=20for=20a=20lo=
ng=20time.=20=20
We=20also
=20saw
=20a=20counselor=20while=20we=20were=20there=20on=20a=20weekly=20basis=20to=
=20make=20sure=20
that=20we
=20were
=20adjusting=20well=20to=20the=20environment.=20=20Another=20activity,=20ca=
lled=20
"people
=20talk,"
=20was=20a=20time=20that=20we=20all=20gathered=20to=20talk=20about=20certai=
n=20issues=20
that=20often
=20led
=20to=20self-awareness=20and=20confidence=20building.
=20In=20the=20Real=20World=20Work=20Experience=20program,=20we=20were=20eva=
luated=20on=20
our
=20skills
=20for=20a=20week=20and=20prepared=20for=20a=20month=20of=20work.=20=20Once=
=20we=20started=20
work,=20we
=20worked=20for=20three=20days=20per=20week=20in=20volunteer=20positions,=20=
and=20we=20
were=20paid
=20by
=20the=20Carroll=20Center.=20=20The=20other=20two=20days=20were=20used=20fo=
r=20field=20
trips=20and
=20training=20days.=20=20Again,=20it=20was=20an=20amazing=20experience.=20=
=20Different=20
students
=20were=20placed=20in=20different=20positions=20in=20the=20Boston=20area.=20=
=20We=20were
=20responsible
=20for=20using=20public=20transportation=20to=20get=20to=20and=20from=20our=
=20work=20
sites.=20=20We
=20had
=20two=20job=20coaches=20in=20charge=20of=20about=2010=20or=2012=20students=
=20in=20the=20
program,=20so
=20they
=20weren't=20with=20us=20all=20the=20time.=20=20They=20were=20sighted=20peo=
ple=20who=20
watched=20us
=20at
=20a
=20distance=20while=20we=20were=20in=20the=20environment.
=20At=20the=20beginning=20of=20the=20RWWE=20program,=20I=20met=20a=20few=20=
adults=20who=20
were=20at=20the
=20end
=20of=20their=20adult=20program,=20which=20runs=20during=20the=20regular=20=
school=20
year.=20=20They
=20spoke=20well=20of=20their=20program,=20but=20they=20told=20me=20that=20t=
here=20wasn't=20
an
=20aggressive=20Braille=20standard=20that=20they=20had=20to=20meet=20in=20t=
heir=20
program.
=20They
=20studied=20it=20a=20little=20bit,=20but=20they=20didn't=20become=20what=20=
an=20NFB=20
training
=20center
=20would=20push=20them=20to=20become.=20=20Also,=20students=20at=20the=20Ca=
rroll=20Center=20
live=20in
=20a
=20dorm=20and=20eat=20at=20a=20dining=20hall,=20which=20gives=20them=20a=20=
comfortable=20
crutch,
=20but
=20it
=20does=20not=20push=20them=20to=20really=20be=20independent.=20=20When=20y=
ou=20walk=20into=20
the
=20dining
=20hall,=20you=20are=20expected=20to=20put=20your=20cane=20in=20a=20docking=
=20station=20and
=20navigate
=20the=20dining=20hall=20without=20it=20by=20walking=20in=20either=20a=20cl=
ockwise=20or
=20counter-clockwise=20direction.
=20The=20Carroll=20Center=20is=20a=20good=20training=20center=20with=20good=
=20people=20in=20
it,=20but
=20it
=20is=20not=20the=20very=20best=20option=20available.
=20I'd=20be=20happy=20to=20answer=20specific=20questions=20on-=20or=20off-l=
ist.
=20Justin
=20Justin=20M.=20Salisbury
=20Undergraduate=20Student
=20The=20University=20Honors=20Program
=20East=20Carolina=20University
=20salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
=20?Never=20doubt=20that=20a=20small=20group=20of=20thoughtful,=20committed=
=20
citizens=20can
=20change
=20the=20world;=20indeed,=20it?s=20the=20only=20thing=20that=20ever=20has.?=
=20=20=20=20
?MARGARET=20MEAD
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
=20
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%40satx.rr.com
=20_______________________________________________
=20nabs-l=20mailing=20list
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
=20
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nu
sbaum%40gmail.com
=20--
=20Chris=20Nusbaum
=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
!
=20Like=20us=20on=20Facebook!=20Search=20for=20Arianna=20Lipka=20Art=20for=
=20the=20Blind!
=20Visit=20the=20I=20C.A.N.=20Foundation=20online=20at:=20www.icanfoundatio=
n.info=20
for
=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2018
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2010:58:53=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20AMerican=20Hero=20Dog=20Award
=20Message-ID:
=20
<CABpnAxGDsDADy5FFb6OCrp-Lrjgy=3DV=3DUHAG=3Du6o5SwCjSPjYQA at mail.gmail.c
om
=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hi=20Beth,
=20Amen=20to=20that!=20I'm=20going=20to=20try=20on=20my=20PC,=20as=20the=20=
site=20was=20a=20
little
=20weird=20with=20my=20BrailleNote,=20so=20it=20may=20be=20better=20with=20=
JAWS.=20I=20have
=20recently=20finished=20reading=20Thunder=20Dog=20(my=20friend=20picked=20=
a=20copy=20
up=20for
=20me=20at=20national=20convention,=20as=20I=20wasn't=20there...=20what=20a=
=20bad
=20Federationist=20I=20am,=20*smiles)=20and=20it's=20a=20wonderfull=20story=
.=20You'll=20
love
=20it!=20Enjoy=20the=20book!
=20Chris
=20P.S.=20Does=20anybody=20know=20when=20the=20deadline=20for=20voting=20fo=
r=20Roselle=20
is?
=20Did=20Mike=20mention=20this=20in=20one=20of=20his=20emails,=20and=20I=20=
just=20didn't=20
pay
=20attention?
=20On=208/14/11,=20Beth=20<thebluesisloose at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20Hi,=20guys.
=20I=20read=20the=20messages=20from=20Michael=20Hingson=20and=20am=20very=20=
sad=20to=20hear
=20of=20Roselle's=20passing.=20=20The=20posthumous=20wish=20I'm=20sure=20wo=
uld=20be=20for
=20her=20to=20have=20the=20American=20Hero=20Dog=20award.=20=20How=20many=20=
of=20you=20guys
=20have=20voted=20for=20her?=20=20I'm=20just=20about=20ready=20to=20read=20=
Thunder=20Dog
=20myself.=20=20Anyway,=20if=20anybody=20has=20voted,=20great.=20=20If=20yo=
u=20haven't,=20I
=20have=20heard=20Roselle's=20story=20last=20year=20in=20Dallas,=20and=20I'=
ve=20been
=20thinking=20about=20this=20whole=20thing=20for=20the=20whole=20year=20sin=
ce=20I've
=20heard=20it.=20=20I=20remember=20the=20eloquence=20Mr.=20Hingson=20used=20=
in
=20portraying=20Roselle=20as=20a=20true=20American=20Hero=20Dog.=20=20So=20=
let's=20all
=20vote=20for=20her,=20if=20not=20for=20a=20true=20award=20but=20a=20posthu=
mous=20one.
=20Thanks.
=20Beth
=20_______________________________________________
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=20Message:=2019
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2011:49:13=20-0400
=20From:=20chris=20nusbaum=20<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Fwd:=20Thunde=
r=20
Dog=20on
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20the=20move=20and=20a=20corrected=20link
=20Message-ID:
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=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hi=20Gabe,
=20Just=20FYI,=20you=20don't=20need=20to=20send=20emails=20to=20the=20NABS=
=20list=20if=20they=20
come
=20across=20as=20posted=20to=20the=20NFBnet-members=20list.=20When=20Dave=20=
Andrews=20
posts
=20something=20to=20the=20NFBnet-members=20or=20NFBnet-master=20lists,=20it=
=20goes=20
to
=20everybody=20who's=20on=20any=20NFBnet=20lists.=20This=20reduces=20Inbox=
=20clutter=20
for
=20people=20who=20are=20on=20multiple=20lists,=20as=20a=20message=20is=20se=
nt=20to=20one=20
list,
=20then=20forwarded=20to=20another=20list=20on=20the=20same=20server=20as=20=
the=20first,=20
then
=20another,=20and=20another...=20well,=20you=20see=20what=20I=20mean.=20The=
=20other=20
lists=20you
=20posted=20it=20to=20hadn't=20seen=20the=20message=20before=20you=20sent=20=
it,=20though,
=20because=20they're=20on=20different=20servers.=20Just=20letting=20you=20k=
now!
=20Chris
=20On=208/13/11,=20Gabe=20Cazares=20<gcazares10 at gmail.com>=20wrote:
=20FYI
=20...Gabe
=20----------=20Forwarded=20message=20----------
=20From:=20David=20Andrews=20<dandrews at visi.com
=20Date:=20Sat,=2013=20Aug=202011=2022:03:38=20-0500
=20Subject:=20[Nfbnet-members-list]=20Fwd:=20Thunder=20Dog=20on=20the=20mov=
e=20and=20
a
=20corrected
=20link
=20To:=20nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
Hello,
Earlier=20this=20month=20I=20emailed=20many=20of=20you=20announcing=20that=
=20my=20new=20
book,
"Thunder=20Dog,=20A=20Blind=20Man,=20His=20Guide=20Dog,=20and=20the=20Trium=
ph=20of=20
Trust=20at
=20Ground
Zero=20"=20was=20released=20on=20August=202.=20=20.=20=20Please=20continue=
=20to=20tell=20the=20
world
=20about
its=20release=20and=20please=20encourage=20your=20friends,=20family,=20and=
=20
colleagues=20to
order=20Thunder=20Dog.=20=20I=20would=20appreciate=20your=20help=20very=20m=
uch.
Now,=20I=20am=20excited=20to=20tell=20you=20that=20in=20its=20first=20week=
=20of=20release=20
it=20has
climbed=20to=20the=20rank=20of=20#29=20on=20the=20combined=20New=20York=20T=
imes=20Best=20
Sellers
list
for=20print=20and=20eBooks.=20=20This=20is=20incredible=20according=20to=20=
my=20
publisher=20and
=20book
agent.=20=20I=20wanted=20to=20share=20the=20exciting=20news.=20=20I=20hope=
=20that=20you=20
have
=20purchased
your=20own=20copy=20and=20have=20enjoyed=20Thunder=20Dog.=20=20If=20you=20w=
ant=20to=20buy=20
one
=20please
visit=20www.michaelhingson.com=20and=20click=20on=20"Order=20Thunder=20Dog"=
.=20=20
All
=20copies
come=20autographed=20and=20pawtographed=20by=20me=20and=20Roselle.
Thunder=20Dog=20continues=20to=20zoom=20up=20the=20Amazon=20and=20Barnes=20=
and=20Noble=20
charts.
=20If
you=20want=20to=20read=20the=20story=20of=20Roselle=20and=20me=20as=20well=
=20as=20learn=20
some=20life
lessons=20around
9-11=20you=20can=20now=20purchase=20the=20cd=20audio=20book=20or=20a=20prin=
t=20book=20at
=20bookstores.
Better=20yet,=20as=20mentioned=20above,=20you=20can=20visit=20
www.michaelhingson.com=20and
purchase=20copies.=20=20The=20pawtograph=20from=20Roselle=20is=20especially=
=20
meaningful
to
me,=20and=20I=20hope=20to=20you,=20because=20it=20was=20obtained=20just=20s=
ix=20days=20
before
Roselle
passed=20on=20June=2026,=202011.
The=20books=20reviews=20continue=20to=20be=20pretty=20tremendous.=20=20I=20=
hope=20that
"Thunder
Dog"=20will=20help=20inspire=20people=20as=20raise=20their=20awareness=20ab=
out=20
blindness.
=20The
book=20is=20available=20in=20audio=20cd,=20and=20print=20editions,=20both=20=
available=20
at
www.michaelhingson.com.=20=20The=20audio=20edition=20has=20some=20extras=20=
including=20a
speech=20I=20gave=20last=20year=20at=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20t=
he=20Blind
=20convention
in=20Dallas=20before=203,000=20blind=20people.
I=20also=20wish=20your=20help=20on=20another=20front.=20=20In=20June,=20Ros=
elle=20was=20
nominated
=20as
=20a
candidate=20to=20receive=20the=20American=20Dog=20Hero=20award=20from=20the=
=20
American
Humane
Association.=20=20Her=20nomination=20has=20progressed=20and=20she=20is=20no=
w=20one=20of=20
the
eight
finalists.=20=20The=20link=20I=20sent=20you=20earlier=20this=20month=20appa=
rently=20had=20
a
=20problem.
I=20have=20corrected=20the=20difficulty.=20=20Again=20I=20am=20asking=20you=
=20to=20take=20
the=20time
=20and
vote=20for=20her=20at=20
www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458.
You=20can=20vote=20daily=20through=20September=2030,=202011.=20=20I=20would=
=20
appreciate=20you
spreading=20the=20word=20about=20this=20and=20helping=20Roselle=20win.=20=20=
A=20victory=20
for
Roselle=20includes=20a=20substantial=20donation=20to=20Guide=20Dogs=20for=20=
the=20
Blind,=20her
Alma=20Mater.
Thanks=20for=20all=20your=20encouragement=20and=20support=20over=20the=20ye=
ars.=20=20As
always,
=20if
you=20know=20of=20anyone=20or=20any=20organization=20needing=20a=20speaker=
=20I=20am=20
always
=20looking
for=20opportunities=20and=20would=20appreciate=20you=20passing=20on=20my=20=
name=20and
contact
information.=20=20I=20hope=20all=20is=20well=20with=20you.
Best,
Mike=20Hingson
The=20Michael=20Hingson=20Group,=20INC.
=20=20"Speaking=20with=20Vision"
Michael=20Hingson,=20President
(415)=20827-4084
info at michaelhingson.com
To=20order=20Michael=20Hingson's=20new=20book,=20Thunder=20Dog,=20and=20che=
ck=20on=20
Michael
Hingson's=20speaking=20availability=20for=20your=20next=20event=20please=20=
visit:
www.michaelhingson.com
Please=20vote=20for=20Roselle=20for=20the=20title=20of=20American=20Dog=20H=
ero=20of=20the=20
year
at
www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458
To=20learn=20about=20the=20KnfbReader=20Mobile=20please=20visit:
http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com
=20_______________________________________________
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=20--
=20Gabriel=20M.=20Cazares,
=202nd=20Vice=20President
=20Texas=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20-=20TABS
=20(A=20Division=20of=20the=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20of=
=20Texas)
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=20Phone:=20713-581-0619
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rest
=20willing=20to=20let=20them."
=20-Robert=20Frost
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=20Sales=20and=20Advertising=20Coordinator
=20Arianna's=20Art=20Inc.=20Paintings=20for=20the=20Blind=20and=20Sighted!!=
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=20information=20on=20our=20foundation=20and=20how=20it=20helps=20blind=20a=
nd=20
visually
=20impaired=20children=20in=20MD=20say=20"I=20can!"
=20------------------------------
=20Message:=2020
=20Date:=20Sun,=2014=20Aug=202011=2012:25:30=20-0400
=20From:=20Patrick=20Molloy=20<ptrck.molloy at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20accessible=20iPod
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=20Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3DISO-8859-1
=20Hello=20everyone:
=20I'm=20thinking=20about=20buying=20a=20new=20iPod,=20and=20I'm=20wonderin=
g=20which=20
kinds
=20are=20the=20most=20accessible?=20I=20don't=20want=20an=20iPhone,=20I=20j=
ust=20want=20
something
=20to=20play=20music=20on.=20Should=20I=20go=20with=20a=20Shuffle,=20or=20a=
re=20there=20more
=20accessible=20iPods=20out=20there?=20Also,=20how=20accessible=20is=20iTun=
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days?
=20(I'm=20a=20JAWS=20user,=20and=20had=20heard=20that=20JAWS=20and=20iTunes=
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=20compatible=20together.)=20Any=20advice=20you=20could=20give=20me=20would=
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