[nabs-l] Bad News for blind and visually impaired people

Tue Aug 9 02:30:01 UTC 2011

good point. The door is still open and I hope the matter is pursued further.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Jacobson
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:52 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bad News for blind and visually impaired people

While it would have been far better to have had this decision go in our 
favor, I think we have to be careful how we interpret decisions like this. 
To my
knowledge, the decision did not go against us because a judge didn't think 
we needed this information, but rather because of the way certain laws
superceed others.  That doesn't make life any better for us right now, but 
it leaves the door open to taking other approaches.  Often there is more 
than one
path to take when filing a legal action and one tries to follow the path 
with the highest likelihood of success, but there is always some risk. 
There are times
when we have felt that to take court action had a greater chance of doing 
dammage than helping and have not done so.  While some of our accessibility
feels to us that it is clearly a right, it isn't always so under the law, 
and we are sometimes trying to squeeze the most we can out of the fringe of 
the law.
Technology has changed dramatically what we feel we can reasonably expect 
even during the past 30 years and the law takes time to catch up.  We'll
have to just continue figuring out how best to make our case.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:58:57 -0400, Chris Nusbaum wrote:

>Sadly, no.  I agree, Bridgit! Dr.  tenBroek made a great point in
>his famous speech Within the Grace of God, when he said
>(paraphrasing) "Our founding fathers said in the Declaration of
>Independence that "all men are created equal." This does not
>exclude anyone with disability, including the blind."

>Chris

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> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com
>To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:58:18 -0500
>Subject: [nabs-l] Bad News for blind and visually impaired people

>This is a perfect example of how we are not all equal in America.
>This
>is a time honored tradition in a country that prides itself on
>being the
>land of the free.  The Civil Rights era is still going strong,
>and those
>with disabilities have now entered the race.  A judge just said,
>"You
>have no right to access these forms of information even though
>those
>with sight can."  Where are our rights?  This thinking, this kind
>of
>ruling makes a statement that those with sight are superior to
>those
>without sight.  All people are in deed not created equal in this
>country.

>Sincerely,
>Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>Read my blog for Live Well Nebraska.com at
>http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:39:58 -0700
>From: "T.  Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbmd] Fwd: [Nfbf-l] Bad news for blind
>and
> visually impairedpeople
>Message-ID: <20110806193955.GM3077 at yumi.bluecherry.net
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>This was posted when the decision came out and discussed at
>considerable length.  This is the problem when you start
>forwarding
>people?s forwards of forwarded forwards?the NFB was the plaintiff
>in
>the case, so of course we know the outcome already.

>The judge ruled California state law does not supersede the
>federal
>Air Carrier Access Act which claims any and all jurisdiction for
>accessibility in and around airports.

>We?re not done with this.

>Joseph - kf7qzc

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