[nabs-l] Blindness a dying?

chris nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Tue Aug 16 21:20:39 UTC 2011


Hi Justin,

Don't hold your breath for having a Federationist take over the
Carroll Center! Well, it may happen, but I don't see it happening
soon, as they've worked very closely with the AFB (I think) and a lot
of them still believe in what FR Carroll did.

Chris

On 8/16/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello Justin and everyone,
>
>     You can read all about FR. Carroll's belief about blindness being a
> "Dying" in his book "Blindness: What it is, What it does,and How to Live
> With It." You should be able to get the book from NLS, Learning Allie, or
> Bookshare.org. I read it in the late 1970s and became totally depressed
> after reading three chapters of it. Dr. Jernigan quoted from it in his
> address: "Blindness Handicap or Characteristic."
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salisbury, Justin Mark" <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:42 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
>
>
> I just want to summarize my view on the Carroll Center:
>
> If it's the only opportunity you have to get some skills that you don't
> already have, it can benefit you.  If you have the opportunity to attend an
> NFB training center (or BISM, which Amy Phelps runs with an NFB philosophy),
> choose it over the Carroll Center 100 out of 100 times.
>
> I've never heard the "dying" thing about Father Carroll, but it does not
> surprise me.  I would love to get a good Federationist to take over the
> management of the Carroll Center.
>
> Justin
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Undergraduate Student
> The University Honors Program
> East Carolina University
> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>
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> the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”    —MARGARET MEAD
>
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>    1. nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read (David Dunphy)
>    2. Re: Carol Center for the Blind? (Justin Young)
>    3. Re: Blio and E-Book Readers (Kirt Manwaring)
>    4. Re: Blio and E-Book Readers (Heather Field)
>    5. Re: nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
>       (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>    6. Re: nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read (chris nusbaum)
>    7. Re: Carol Center for the Blind? (bookwormahb at earthlink.net)
>    8. announcement for all interested in Arianna's Art: new email
>       address for the business (chris nusbaum)
>    9. The Carroll Center for the Blind (Salisbury, Justin Mark)
>   10. Re: Carol Center for the Blind? (David Dodge)
>   11. Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on the move and a
>       corrected link (Gabe Cazares)
>   12. AMerican Hero Dog Award (Beth)
>   13. Re: The Carroll Center for the Blind (Peter Donahue)
>   14. sending a message to all Gmail contacts? (chris nusbaum)
>   15. Fwd: [nabs] Employment Mentoring Project: mentors flier
>       (chris nusbaum)
>   16. Fwd: [nabs] Employment mentoring project: mentees flier.
>       (chris nusbaum)
>   17. Re: The Carroll Center for the Blind (chris nusbaum)
>   18. Re: AMerican Hero Dog Award (chris nusbaum)
>   19. Re: Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on the move
>       and a corrected link (chris nusbaum)
>   20. accessible iPod (Patrick Molloy)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:11:26 -0400
> From: David Dunphy <djdrocks4ever at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
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> Hi Everybody!
> I want to begin by apologizing to each and every one of you for the
> convention meeting not being up yet. I realize how horribly late it
> is. Sadly, there is a reason for this: The current web hosting
> provider we were using had their mother board fry, and we lost some
> files from the site.. Luckily, I have a backup of these things, but
> our site provider does not have a system for any site backups. So if I
> had a crash, and such an occurrence happened again, bye bye
> nabslinkaudio.org.
> So, I've done some digging around, and I have found us a new hosting
> home that does have automated site backups, protects from viruses and
> spam, etc.
> So at around 2 PM or 3 PM eastern today, August 13 2011, the
> nabslinkaudio.org site will be taken off line while we make the switch
> to a new provider.
> During the time of the transfer, you'll see a generic page letting you
> know that the nabslinkaudio.org site is temporarily unavailable.
> You'll know when the transfer is complete, for the site will be back
> online again.
> Once I'm sure that the domain has been updated and that all internet
> service providers have had a chance to update their records to reflect
> the change, I will put up the meeting for download, and also implement
> text notifications of archive availability. Yes, I know I already
> mentioned this, but I'm going to implement something that will:
> 1. Ensure the membership committee that only people who want their
> numbers shared for getting text notifications of call availability get
> said messages and no one else
> and
> 2. No one can turn around and say they didn't give their number if a
> concern should come up, for each phone number will have to be
> validated by the owner
> Don't worry, the process will be painless, and will make total sense
> once you see it!
> If you have any questions, please email me at
> djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
> Thank you.
> >From David
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:29:42 -0400
> From: Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Carol Center for the Blind?
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> Hi David,
>
> No problem.  I did three different programs.  In the Summer of 2006 I
> did the Youth In Transition(YIT) program which is heavily focused upon
> daily living skills.  There were classes from 8:45-3pm Mon-Fri.  Then
> there was activities that you did clubs and stuff like that.  Some
> were fun and some not really.  You have the opportunity to do fencing,
> and other evening activities.  Some of the evening ones were more
> arts/crafts style if I recall.  Its hard to say with the
> extracurriculars cuz they changed ever year.  The ones whichwere the
> same were Fencing, Sailing, shopping and others which I forget.  The
> next Summer I did the Real World of Work Experience Program(RWWE)
> which was 5 weeks where the first week is doing the classes to make
> sure you can do all of it because like laundry you had to wait until
> after classes were over or on weekends as well.  Once you begin
> working its great I must say.  When I did it they selected a place for
> you and you were on the job site for Mon, Wed, Fri and Tues & Thu you
> went on Field Trips.  Oh yes I forgot about those we went on those as
> well in YIT.  They were to fun places, movies, golfing & stuff like
> that.  For the RWWE program though on Thursdays we went on Work
> related field trips.  Like once we went to the State House in Boston
> and tried to go to Cape Cod, but the van I was in broke down so
> couldn't do that one.  There were still the activities in the
> afternoon and evening.  I didn't really do the ones in the afternoon
> because I got back from work to late always.  I worked at the Newton
> Welseley Hospital in the Receiving Department which was fun after I
> got a hand of what I was doing, the layout of the place and confidence
> that I could do it all.  I delivered to depts mainly.  For my Final
> Summer I and 4 others were involved in the pilot program of Transition
> To College(TTC) in the Summer of 2008.  This program was 4 weeks where
> we did 2 at the Carroll Center like the YIT program and 2 at Boston
> College.  The 2 weeks of the classes is to ensure we could do it while
> at BC.  There was also a 2 week period before the program started for
> all in the program to do the Computing to College which is a computer
> program based in the Technology Center at the Carroll Center.  I
> couldn't do this portion because I was finishing High School.  While
> at BC we attended various seminars during the day and after I think
> 3pm it was we were free to do whatever we liked.  We stayed in a dorm
> which was a suite style and had a supervisor in one of the 5 rooms
> with us.  We were given each day $15 for food and had to give the
> supervisor all receipts of what we spent.  We definitely got our
> exercise because our dorm was about a mile from the Education Building
> where our seminars took place.  We went on a field trip or two I don't
> remember.  I remember we went to either Boston University or one of
> the UMass schools.  I and a few of the others in the program took the
> train to go places once or twice and a coffee shop was right on the
> edge of the college and not far from our dorm.  So, I went there
> sometimes.
>
> It was a great three years full of making friends.  The cons you
> asked?  Hmm, well it really depends upon how you look at which program
> you are in.  I would say that sometimes you were forced to do things
> you didn't really want to do which is why I really liked the BC
> living.  I hope this helps you.
>
> Justin
>
> On 8/13/11, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:
>> Justin,
>> Thanks for your e-mail. Clearly, you have a great deal of experience with
>> the center. Can you tell me about the program you were in, what you
>> learned,
>> and how it helped you? Were there any cons to the center? Thanks so much.
>>
>> David
>> ----------------------------------
>> David Dodge
>> Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>> State University of New York Student Assembly
>> English Major
>> University at Buffalo
>> 306 Clemens Hall
>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I have experience with this center since I spent 3 consecutive summers
>>> at the Corroll Center.  I would be happy to answer any questions you
>>> may have.
>>>
>>> Justin Young
>>>
>>> On 8/12/11, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:
>>> > Hello Everyone,
>>> > A friend of mine is going to be going to the Carol Center for the Blind
>>> in
>>> > Newton Massachusetts. Does anyone have experience with this specific
>>> center?
>>> > I'd just like some general feedback. Thanks so much.
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> > ----------------------------------
>>> > David Dodge
>>> > Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>>> > State University of New York Student Assembly
>>> > English Major
>>> > University at Buffalo
>>> > 306 Clemens Hall
>>> > Buffalo, NY 14260
>>> > daviddod at buffalo.edu
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:52:23 -0600
> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blio and E-Book Readers
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> Peter,
>   I intend no disrespect to KNFB, but I honestly have an easier time
> using the Kindel for PC app than I do using the Blio.  To each their
> own, I guess.
>   Warmly,
> Kirt
>
> On 8/13/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hello Joseph and everyone,
>>
>>     Rather than messing with Nook, Kindle and company why not use Blio. It
>> was developed by KNFB Reading Technology and was designed with access for
>> blind and sighted people in mind. The NFB played a major role in helping
>> to
>> develop this product. I'd strongly suggest seriously investigating Blio
>> instead of e-book solutions whose accessibility is next to none or
>> nonexistent. Find out more by visiting:
>> http://www.blio.com
>>
>>     We have Blio installed on one of our devices and love it. It's a great
>> product. Now to add more books to our collection.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>
>>
>> The Nook is completely inaccessible at last look.  The Kindle can be
>> accessible, if the publisher wants it to be.  How well it works
>> you?ll have to ask others?I use an iPad myself.  *grin*
>>
>> Joseph - kf7qzc
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:40:53PM -0400, jandart2 at aol.com wrote:
>>>Listers,
>>>Can you share any  experiences/recommendations for Nook and Kindle?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rania Ismail CMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>>To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 2:33 pm
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>I joined in 95 and have the life time membership. The membership is free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf
>>>
>>>Of Anjelina
>>>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:25 PM
>>>
>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I joined in 1993 and was told with a lifetime membership we are exempt
>>>from
>>>
>>>paying the annual fee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: Marsha Drenth
>>>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:00 AM
>>>
>>>To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think I heard of Learning Allie loosing its funding some time around
>>>
>>>convention, but did not much think about it. So if now people want to use
>>>
>>>the books, we must pay. What happens to those of us who have been
>>>
>>>grandfathered in since the beginning of time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At least because I am a student I get BKS for free of charge. I don't use
>>>
>>>BKS books all that much, because when put on my stream to read audibly I
>>>
>>>can't understand the speech. So thus why I like the Learning Allie books.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:27:44 -0500
> From: "Heather Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blio and E-Book Readers
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> Hi Kurt,
> I downloaded Kindle for PC and then bought an ebook with speech enabled.
> However, I believe I still need an accessibility plugin or some such add-on
> to make it fully accessible. As you're having great success with using
> Kindle, can you please advise me as to what I need to do so I can read my
> ebook.
>
> Thanks so much.
> Heather
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirt Manwaring
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:52 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blio and E-Book Readers
>
> Peter,
>   I intend no disrespect to KNFB, but I honestly have an easier time
> using the Kindel for PC app than I do using the Blio.  To each their
> own, I guess.
>   Warmly,
> Kirt
>
> On 8/13/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hello Joseph and everyone,
>>
>>     Rather than messing with Nook, Kindle and company why not use Blio. It
>> was developed by KNFB Reading Technology and was designed with access for
>> blind and sighted people in mind. The NFB played a major role in helping
>> to
>> develop this product. I'd strongly suggest seriously investigating Blio
>> instead of e-book solutions whose accessibility is next to none or
>> nonexistent. Find out more by visiting:
>> http://www.blio.com
>>
>>     We have Blio installed on one of our devices and love it. It's a great
>> product. Now to add more books to our collection.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>
>>
>> The Nook is completely inaccessible at last look.  The Kindle can be
>> accessible, if the publisher wants it to be.  How well it works
>> you?ll have to ask others?I use an iPad myself.  *grin*
>>
>> Joseph - kf7qzc
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:40:53PM -0400, jandart2 at aol.com wrote:
>>>Listers,
>>>Can you share any  experiences/recommendations for Nook and Kindle?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rania Ismail CMT <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>>To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Wed, Aug 10, 2011 2:33 pm
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>I joined in 95 and have the life time membership. The membership is free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>Behalf
>>>
>>>Of Anjelina
>>>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:25 PM
>>>
>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I joined in 1993 and was told with a lifetime membership we are exempt
>>>from
>>>
>>>paying the annual fee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: Marsha Drenth
>>>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:00 AM
>>>
>>>To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning Ally new prices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think I heard of Learning Allie loosing its funding some time around
>>>
>>>convention, but did not much think about it. So if now people want to use
>>>
>>>the books, we must pay. What happens to those of us who have been
>>>
>>>grandfathered in since the beginning of time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At least because I am a student I get BKS for free of charge. I don't use
>>>
>>>BKS books all that much, because when put on my stream to read audibly I
>>>
>>>can't understand the speech. So thus why I like the Learning Allie books.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:49:43 -0400
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
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> Thanks for the update and look forward to to the recordings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dunphy
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
>
> Hi Everybody!
> I want to begin by apologizing to each and every one of you for the
> convention meeting not being up yet. I realize how horribly late it
> is. Sadly, there is a reason for this: The current web hosting
> provider we were using had their mother board fry, and we lost some
> files from the site.. Luckily, I have a backup of these things, but
> our site provider does not have a system for any site backups. So if I
> had a crash, and such an occurrence happened again, bye bye
> nabslinkaudio.org.
> So, I've done some digging around, and I have found us a new hosting
> home that does have automated site backups, protects from viruses and
> spam, etc.
> So at around 2 PM or 3 PM eastern today, August 13 2011, the
> nabslinkaudio.org site will be taken off line while we make the switch
> to a new provider.
> During the time of the transfer, you'll see a generic page letting you
> know that the nabslinkaudio.org site is temporarily unavailable.
> You'll know when the transfer is complete, for the site will be back
> online again.
> Once I'm sure that the domain has been updated and that all internet
> service providers have had a chance to update their records to reflect
> the change, I will put up the meeting for download, and also implement
> text notifications of archive availability. Yes, I know I already
> mentioned this, but I'm going to implement something that will:
> 1. Ensure the membership committee that only people who want their
> numbers shared for getting text notifications of call availability get
> said messages and no one else
> and
> 2. No one can turn around and say they didn't give their number if a
> concern should come up, for each phone number will have to be
> validated by the owner
> Don't worry, the process will be painless, and will make total sense
> once you see it!
> If you have any questions, please email me at
> djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
> Thank you.
> >From David
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:09:38 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
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> Hi David,
>
> Technical problems, technical problems! First, nabslinkaudio.org's Web
> hosting service motherboard fried, and I just got an email saying that
> AAR will be temporarily offline! Wow! I completely understand. Thanks
> for the update, and I look forward to listening to the meeting!
>
> Chris
>
> On 8/13/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for the update and look forward to to the recordings.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Dunphy
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:11 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabslinkaudio.org site, Please Read
>>
>> Hi Everybody!
>> I want to begin by apologizing to each and every one of you for the
>> convention meeting not being up yet. I realize how horribly late it
>> is. Sadly, there is a reason for this: The current web hosting
>> provider we were using had their mother board fry, and we lost some
>> files from the site.. Luckily, I have a backup of these things, but
>> our site provider does not have a system for any site backups. So if I
>> had a crash, and such an occurrence happened again, bye bye
>> nabslinkaudio.org.
>> So, I've done some digging around, and I have found us a new hosting
>> home that does have automated site backups, protects from viruses and
>> spam, etc.
>> So at around 2 PM or 3 PM eastern today, August 13 2011, the
>> nabslinkaudio.org site will be taken off line while we make the switch
>> to a new provider.
>> During the time of the transfer, you'll see a generic page letting you
>> know that the nabslinkaudio.org site is temporarily unavailable.
>> You'll know when the transfer is complete, for the site will be back
>> online again.
>> Once I'm sure that the domain has been updated and that all internet
>> service providers have had a chance to update their records to reflect
>> the change, I will put up the meeting for download, and also implement
>> text notifications of archive availability. Yes, I know I already
>> mentioned this, but I'm going to implement something that will:
>> 1. Ensure the membership committee that only people who want their
>> numbers shared for getting text notifications of call availability get
>> said messages and no one else
>> and
>> 2. No one can turn around and say they didn't give their number if a
>> concern should come up, for each phone number will have to be
>> validated by the owner
>> Don't worry, the process will be painless, and will make total sense
>> once you see it!
>> If you have any questions, please email me at
>> djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
>> Thank you.
>> >From David
>>
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> --
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>
> Sales and Advertising Coordinator
>
> Arianna's Art Inc. Paintings for the Blind and Sighted!!!
>
> Like us on Facebook! Search for Arianna Lipka Art for the Blind!
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> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:00:54 -0400
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Carol Center for the Blind?
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> David,
> What program is your friend attending? Is it the main rehabilitation adult
> program? They also have one for work experience called the vocational
> transition program.  I can only comment briefly upon the center. I have a
> short summer experience to comment on.
> I would be interested to hear any feedback from people in the adult program
> because I am thinking of going back for training.
>
> Like Justin Young, I attended the Youth in Transition, Yit, Program.
> I was there in summer 2001. Back then it was a six week program; now it?s a
> shorter program since they have  a new program called
> Transition to College that they run for four weeks plus two weeks the
> students attend the computer program for a total of six weeks.  Had I known
> about the Real World of Work experience, RWWE
> program, I might have attended that during my high school years. The teens
> in the program all seemed to enjoy their jobs.
> That would have been a good way to get work experience and socialize.  I was
> friends with the RWWE students though.
> In 2001 RWWE students went to work three days  a week with one day of field
> trips and the other day of classes at the center. Students in YIT and RWWE
> had afternoon/evening activities as well as field trips together.
> We also had meals together. I guess that is why we  got to know each other
> since there was some overlap in experience.
>
> In the Youth in transition program, it was focussed on daily living skills.
> Its like  the youth version of the rehab program.
> Classes were from 9:00 - 3:00.
> Before that there were announcements at 8:45. In the afternoon, students had
> club activities and in the evening
> there were more activities and some of them were off campus.
> In the adult program at 3:00 is a makeup class
> period.  I am glad I went to YIT for the experience of the extra curriculars
> and socializing. But they went over a lot of stuff I already knew.  I wonder
> if the  adult program is more individualized with a good evaluation of
> skills before you learn skills in class.
>
> Some of the classes were communication, personal management, mobility, and
> information technology.  In communication some students learned braille but
> I already knew it. They showed us some labeling products and how to erase a
> tape if you recorded on it. I don't think I got much out of that class.  In
> personal management, Ellie was the instructor. That class focuses on
> cooking, personal care  and housekeeping skills. I practiced cutting and
> spreading there. I had been taught by a rehab teacher at home, but found
> Ellie's guidance helpful. She taught hand over  hand and explained things.
> There was another student in my class.  We made
> cookies. She also went over folding money but I already knew that. We had a
> lesson on putting on lipstick too.
> Some students addressed personal care, but I was fine with shaving and
> bathing as a teen. We did more, but I cannot remember it all.
>
> IIn Orientation and mobility, I learned and practiced street crossing and
> went on the city bus. That was one on one; not all students went on the bus.
> I went to the Boston area to walk around; I think we took the bus to Newton
> center which is a  stip shopping center a few miles from the center. I had
> practice buying things in the store with customer service assistance.
>
> The activities at night were fun. I cannot remember the day ones. It was ten
> years ago!
> I only remember an afternoon club called clay works where we made clay
> objects and painted them.
> I think one afternoon club was recreation where we played beep ball or goal
> ball.
> On most fridays nights, everyone had the option to go to the lake to swim,
> but I don't think I went; I was too tired.  On Mondays was our shopping
> night where we went to a local mall. On Wednesdays we went canoeing.
>
> We had field trips once a week instead of classes; those were usually fun.
> I had not had some of those experiences. We went to a dance studio where
> they showed us some dance moves and let us explore dancer's shoes and
> outfits; since we could not see what they wore, I guess they wanted us to
> know what dancers wore. We also went to Cape Cod, a horse farm, and museums.
>
> I still keep in touch with a friend from the center and I saw one student
> who was down here in the next county working as a teacher of the vision
> impaired.
>
> I hope your friend learns something valuable from the center.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dodge
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:39 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] Carol Center for the Blind?
>
> Hello Everyone,
> A friend of mine is going to be going to the Carol Center for the Blind in
> Newton Massachusetts. Does anyone have experience with this specific center?
> I'd just like some general feedback. Thanks so much.
>
> David
> ----------------------------------
> David Dodge
> Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
> State University of New York Student Assembly
> English Major
> University at Buffalo
> 306 Clemens Hall
> Buffalo, NY 14260
> daviddod at buffalo.edu
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:28:47 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,    Blind Talk Mailing List
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,
>         "g List\" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>, \"nfbmd\" <nfbmd at nfbnet.org>,
>         \"nabs\" <nabs at acb.org>, \"maryland-l\" <maryland-l at acb.org>,
> \"Ross
>         Hammond\" <editor at matildaziegler.com>,  \"alena roberts\""
>         <alena.roberts2282 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ariana Lipka <arigeogirl at gmail.com>, ariannas.art at gmail.com
> Subject: [nabs-l] announcement for all interested in Arianna's Art:
>         new email address for the business
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> --
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sales and Advertising Coordinator
>
> Arianna's Art Inc. Paintings for the Blind and Sighted!!!
>
> Like us on Facebook! Search for Arianna Lipka Art for the Blind!
>
> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'd like to let everyone know of a new and exciting change in our
> painting business for the blind and sighted, Arianna's Art, Inc. We've
> just created an email account where you can send us questions,
> comments, suggestions, or any other information regarding our
> business. If you would like to advertise our product by displaying it
> at your next NFB, ACB, or any other meeting or event, or would like to
> advertise us in any other way, you can also contact us via this email.
> Our email address is ariannas.art at gmail.com. We're also trying to
> create an email list for people who would like to recieve
> announcements from us. In other words, if you specify that you would
> like to be added to our email list, we'll add your email address to
> our contacts list, and whenever we have a new announcement, we'll
> email it to you. If you'd like to recieve announcements from us,
> please leave us your name and email address at the above email. The
> email address once again is ariannas.art at gmail.com. Arianna has two
> n's and there's no apostrophe before the s. Hope to hear from you
> soon!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:57:40 +0000
> From: "Salisbury, Justin Mark" <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
> Message-ID:
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> I attended the Carroll Center for the Blind for two consecutive summers with
> Justin Young, and I would like to give my personal take on it.
>
> Justin and I had this joke where we started the Justin Corporation, an
> underground mafia meat market.  It was an amazing social experience with all
> of the other students involved.  If only considering the social frontier, I
> highly recommend it.
>
> I attended the Youth in Transition (YIT) program in 2006 and then the Real
> World Work Experience (RWWE) in 2007.  I valued every bit of the experience
> both years, but I want to first make clear a fundamental disagreement that I
> now have with the training that I received.  I lost my vision in 2005, so I
> was newly blinded when I went to the Carroll Center.  They taught me to use
> my remaining vision as much as possible and taught me ways to use my
> remaining vision.  I wish that they had taught me how to do everything
> non-visually.  I wish that they had occluded (blindfolded) me during O&M
> lessons and other lessons in general.  I learned a lot of great things, but
> blindness skills should be about knowing how to do things non-visually.  I
> am now planning to attend an NFB training center (Louisiana Center for the
> Blind, Blind, Inc, or Colorado Center for the Blind), where I will learn all
> of the skills I need non-visually.  Also understand that I have a stable
> visual field and acuity.
>
> I am much better off having gone to the Carroll Center than I was before I
> went there, but it wasn't the best possible program that I could have
> chosen.
>
> In the Youth in Transition program, they worked with us on our confidence
> and social skills.  They taught us some basic cooking skills, how to do
> laundry, a lot of O&M, housekeeping skills, how to use low vision devices,
> and they had a class called "personal management," where they taught us
> about shaving, tying a tie, sewing a button, and things like that.  If we
> already knew how to do something, they would watch us do it and suggest
> modifications in technique if necessary.  They also had a class called
> adaptive technology, where they introduced me to ZoomText and other students
> with less vision than me to Jaws.  We had a lot of great group activities
> and social opportunities that I will remember for a long time.  We also saw
> a counselor while we were there on a weekly basis to make sure that we were
> adjusting well to the environment.  Another activity, called "people talk,"
> was a time that we all gathered to talk about certain issues that often led
> to self-awareness and confidence building.
>
> In the Real World Work Experience program, we were evaluated on our skills
> for a week and prepared for a month of work.  Once we started work, we
> worked for three days per week in volunteer positions, and we were paid by
> the Carroll Center.  The other two days were used for field trips and
> training days.  Again, it was an amazing experience.  Different students
> were placed in different positions in the Boston area.  We were responsible
> for using public transportation to get to and from our work sites.  We had
> two job coaches in charge of about 10 or 12 students in the program, so they
> weren't with us all the time.  They were sighted people who watched us at a
> distance while we were in the environment.
>
> At the beginning of the RWWE program, I met a few adults who were at the end
> of their adult program, which runs during the regular school year.  They
> spoke well of their program, but they told me that there wasn't an
> aggressive Braille standard that they had to meet in their program.  They
> studied it a little bit, but they didn't become what an NFB training center
> would push them to become.  Also, students at the Carroll Center live in a
> dorm and eat at a dining hall, which gives them a comfortable crutch, but it
> does not push them to really be independent.  When you walk into the dining
> hall, you are expected to put your cane in a docking station and navigate
> the dining hall without it by walking in either a clockwise or
> counter-clockwise direction.
>
> The Carroll Center is a good training center with good people in it, but it
> is not the very best option available.
>
> I'd be happy to answer specific questions on- or off-list.
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Undergraduate Student
> The University Honors Program
> East Carolina University
> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>
> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 23:03:06 -0400
> From: David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Carol Center for the Blind?
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>
> Thanks so much. He is doing the Youth in Transition program and is
> interested in doing some other programs as well. Good to know you had very
> positive experiences.
>
> David
> ----------------------------------
> David Dodge
> Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
> State University of New York Student Assembly
> English Major
> University at Buffalo
> 306 Clemens Hall
> Buffalo, NY 14260
> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:00 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> David,
>> What program is your friend attending? Is it the main rehabilitation adult
>> program? They also have one for work experience called the vocational
>> transition program.  I can only comment briefly upon the center. I have a
>> short summer experience to comment on.
>> I would be interested to hear any feedback from people in the adult
>> program
>> because I am thinking of going back for training.
>>
>> Like Justin Young, I attended the Youth in Transition, Yit, Program.
>> I was there in summer 2001. Back then it was a six week program; now it?s
>> a
>> shorter program since they have  a new program called
>> Transition to College that they run for four weeks plus two weeks the
>> students attend the computer program for a total of six weeks.  Had I
>> known
>> about the Real World of Work experience, RWWE
>> program, I might have attended that during my high school years. The teens
>> in the program all seemed to enjoy their jobs.
>> That would have been a good way to get work experience and socialize.  I
>> was friends with the RWWE students though.
>> In 2001 RWWE students went to work three days  a week with one day of
>> field
>> trips and the other day of classes at the center. Students in YIT and RWWE
>> had afternoon/evening activities as well as field trips together.
>> We also had meals together. I guess that is why we  got to know each other
>> since there was some overlap in experience.
>>
>> In the Youth in transition program, it was focussed on daily living
>> skills.
>> Its like  the youth version of the rehab program.
>> Classes were from 9:00 - 3:00.
>> Before that there were announcements at 8:45. In the afternoon, students
>> had club activities and in the evening
>> there were more activities and some of them were off campus.
>> In the adult program at 3:00 is a makeup class
>> period.  I am glad I went to YIT for the experience of the extra
>> curriculars and socializing. But they went over a lot of stuff I already
>> knew.  I wonder if the  adult program is more individualized with a good
>> evaluation of skills before you learn skills in class.
>>
>> Some of the classes were communication, personal management, mobility, and
>> information technology.  In communication some students learned braille
>> but
>> I already knew it. They showed us some labeling products and how to erase
>> a
>> tape if you recorded on it. I don't think I got much out of that class.
>> In
>> personal management, Ellie was the instructor. That class focuses on
>> cooking, personal care  and housekeeping skills. I practiced cutting and
>> spreading there. I had been taught by a rehab teacher at home, but found
>> Ellie's guidance helpful. She taught hand over  hand and explained things.
>> There was another student in my class.  We made
>> cookies. She also went over folding money but I already knew that. We had
>> a
>> lesson on putting on lipstick too.
>> Some students addressed personal care, but I was fine with shaving and
>> bathing as a teen. We did more, but I cannot remember it all.
>>
>> IIn Orientation and mobility, I learned and practiced street crossing and
>> went on the city bus. That was one on one; not all students went on the
>> bus.
>> I went to the Boston area to walk around; I think we took the bus to
>> Newton
>> center which is a  stip shopping center a few miles from the center. I had
>> practice buying things in the store with customer service assistance.
>>
>> The activities at night were fun. I cannot remember the day ones. It was
>> ten years ago!
>> I only remember an afternoon club called clay works where we made clay
>> objects and painted them.
>> I think one afternoon club was recreation where we played beep ball or
>> goal
>> ball.
>> On most fridays nights, everyone had the option to go to the lake to swim,
>> but I don't think I went; I was too tired.  On Mondays was our shopping
>> night where we went to a local mall. On Wednesdays we went canoeing.
>>
>> We had field trips once a week instead of classes; those were usually fun.
>> I had not had some of those experiences. We went to a dance studio where
>> they showed us some dance moves and let us explore dancer's shoes and
>> outfits; since we could not see what they wore, I guess they wanted us to
>> know what dancers wore. We also went to Cape Cod, a horse farm, and
>> museums.
>>
>> I still keep in touch with a friend from the center and I saw one student
>> who was down here in the next county working as a teacher of the vision
>> impaired.
>>
>> I hope your friend learns something valuable from the center.
>> -----Original Message----- From: David Dodge
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:39 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Carol Center for the Blind?
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> A friend of mine is going to be going to the Carol Center for the Blind in
>> Newton Massachusetts. Does anyone have experience with this specific
>> center?
>> I'd just like some general feedback. Thanks so much.
>>
>> David
>> ------------------------------**----
>> David Dodge
>> Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
>> State University of New York Student Assembly
>> English Major
>> University at Buffalo
>> 306 Clemens Hall
>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:59:07 -0500
> From: Gabe Cazares <gcazares10 at gmail.com>
> To: members <members at nfbtx.org>, tabs_students
>         <tabs_students at googlegroups.com>,       nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on the
>         move and a corrected link
> Message-ID:
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>
> FYI
>
> ...Gabe
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:03:38 -0500
> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on the move and a corrected
> link
> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>
>
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Earlier this month I emailed many of you announcing that my new book,
>>"Thunder Dog, A Blind Man, His Guide Dog, and the Triumph of Trust at
>>Ground
>>Zero " was released on August 2.  .  Please continue to tell the world
>>about
>>its release and please encourage your friends, family, and colleagues to
>>order Thunder Dog.  I would appreciate your help very much.
>>
>>Now, I am excited to tell you that in its first week of release it has
>>climbed to the rank of #29 on the combined New York Times Best Sellers list
>>for print and eBooks.  This is incredible according to my publisher and
>>book
>>agent.  I wanted to share the exciting news.  I hope that you have
>>purchased
>>your own copy and have enjoyed Thunder Dog.  If you want to buy one please
>>visit www.michaelhingson.com and click on "Order Thunder Dog".  All copies
>>come autographed and pawtographed by me and Roselle.
>>
>>Thunder Dog continues to zoom up the Amazon and Barnes and Noble charts.
>>If
>>you want to read the story of Roselle and me as well as learn some life
>>lessons around
>>9-11 you can now purchase the cd audio book or a print book at bookstores.
>>Better yet, as mentioned above, you can visit www.michaelhingson.com and
>>purchase copies.  The pawtograph from Roselle is especially meaningful to
>>me, and I hope to you, because it was obtained just six days before Roselle
>>passed on June 26, 2011.
>>
>>The books reviews continue to be pretty tremendous.  I hope that "Thunder
>>Dog" will help inspire people as raise their awareness about blindness.
>>The
>>book is available in audio cd, and print editions, both available at
>>www.michaelhingson.com.  The audio edition has some extras including a
>>speech I gave last year at the National Federation of the Blind convention
>>in Dallas before 3,000 blind people.
>>
>>I also wish your help on another front.  In June, Roselle was nominated as
>>a
>>candidate to receive the American Dog Hero award from the American Humane
>>Association.  Her nomination has progressed and she is now one of the eight
>>finalists.  The link I sent you earlier this month apparently had a
>>problem.
>>I have corrected the difficulty.  Again I am asking you to take the time
>>and
>>vote for her at www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458.
>>You can vote daily through September 30, 2011.  I would appreciate you
>>spreading the word about this and helping Roselle win.  A victory for
>>Roselle includes a substantial donation to Guide Dogs for the Blind, her
>>Alma Mater.
>>
>>Thanks for all your encouragement and support over the years.  As always,
>>if
>>you know of anyone or any organization needing a speaker I am always
>>looking
>>for opportunities and would appreciate you passing on my name and contact
>>information.  I hope all is well with you.
>>
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>
>>Mike Hingson
>>
>>The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>  "Speaking with Vision"
>>Michael Hingson, President
>>(415) 827-4084
>>info at michaelhingson.com
>>To order Michael Hingson's new book, Thunder Dog, and check on Michael
>>Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>www.michaelhingson.com
>>
>>Please vote for Roselle for the title of American Dog Hero of the year at
>>www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458
>>
>>To learn about the KnfbReader Mobile please visit:
>>http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com
>
>
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>
>
> --
> Gabriel M. Cazares,
> 2nd Vice President
> Texas Association of Blind Students - TABS
> (A Division of the National Federation of the Blind of Texas)
> www.nfbtx.org/tabs
> Phone: 713-581-0619
> "The world is full of willing people; some willing to work, the rest
> willing to let them."
> -Robert Frost
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 04:57:26 -0600
> From: Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] AMerican Hero Dog Award
> Message-ID: <4e47aa32.87cee70a.3a4e.ffffa021 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi, guys.
> I read the messages from Michael Hingson and am very sad to hear
> of Roselle's passing.  The posthumous wish I'm sure would be for
> her to have the American Hero Dog award.  How many of you guys
> have voted for her?  I'm just about ready to read Thunder Dog
> myself.  Anyway, if anybody has voted, great.  If you haven't, I
> have heard Roselle's story last year in Dallas, and I've been
> thinking about this whole thing for the whole year since I've
> heard it.  I remember the eloquence Mr. Hingson used in
> portraying Roselle as a true American Hero Dog.  So let's all
> vote for her, if not for a true award but a posthumous one.
> Thanks.
> Beth
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:08:02 -0500
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
> Message-ID: <003501cc5a7a$d1596b30$9e010b43 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="Windows-1252"
>
> Hello Justin and everyone,
>
>     For the reasons you point out below I wouldn't mess with the Carroll
> Center under any circumstances. I'm originally from Massachusetts and saw
> the same kind of results you mentioned from students who went there. What
> can you expect from an agency whose founder viewed blindness as a "Dying."
> If you want good blindness training go to an NFB center. Get what you need
> once and it will last you a life time.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salisbury, Justin Mark" <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:57 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
>
>
> I attended the Carroll Center for the Blind for two consecutive summers with
> Justin Young, and I would like to give my personal take on it.
>
> Justin and I had this joke where we started the Justin Corporation, an
> underground mafia meat market.  It was an amazing social experience with all
> of the other students involved.  If only considering the social frontier, I
> highly recommend it.
>
> I attended the Youth in Transition (YIT) program in 2006 and then the Real
> World Work Experience (RWWE) in 2007.  I valued every bit of the experience
> both years, but I want to first make clear a fundamental disagreement that I
> now have with the training that I received.  I lost my vision in 2005, so I
> was newly blinded when I went to the Carroll Center.  They taught me to use
> my remaining vision as much as possible and taught me ways to use my
> remaining vision.  I wish that they had taught me how to do everything
> non-visually.  I wish that they had occluded (blindfolded) me during O&M
> lessons and other lessons in general.  I learned a lot of great things, but
> blindness skills should be about knowing how to do things non-visually.  I
> am now planning to attend an NFB training center (Louisiana Center for the
> Blind, Blind, Inc, or Colorado Center for the Blind), where I will learn all
> of the skills I need non-visually.  Also understand that I have a stable
> visual field and acuity.
>
> I am much better off having gone to the Carroll Center than I was before I
> went there, but it wasn't the best possible program that I could have
> chosen.
>
> In the Youth in Transition program, they worked with us on our confidence
> and social skills.  They taught us some basic cooking skills, how to do
> laundry, a lot of O&M, housekeeping skills, how to use low vision devices,
> and they had a class called "personal management," where they taught us
> about shaving, tying a tie, sewing a button, and things like that.  If we
> already knew how to do something, they would watch us do it and suggest
> modifications in technique if necessary.  They also had a class called
> adaptive technology, where they introduced me to ZoomText and other students
> with less vision than me to Jaws.  We had a lot of great group activities
> and social opportunities that I will remember for a long time.  We also saw
> a counselor while we were there on a weekly basis to make sure that we were
> adjusting well to the environment.  Another activity, called "people talk,"
> was a time that we all gathered to talk about certain issues that often led
> to self-awareness and confidence building.
>
> In the Real World Work Experience program, we were evaluated on our skills
> for a week and prepared for a month of work.  Once we started work, we
> worked for three days per week in volunteer positions, and we were paid by
> the Carroll Center.  The other two days were used for field trips and
> training days.  Again, it was an amazing experience.  Different students
> were placed in different positions in the Boston area.  We were responsible
> for using public transportation to get to and from our work sites.  We had
> two job coaches in charge of about 10 or 12 students in the program, so they
> weren't with us all the time.  They were sighted people who watched us at a
> distance while we were in the environment.
>
> At the beginning of the RWWE program, I met a few adults who were at the end
> of their adult program, which runs during the regular school year.  They
> spoke well of their program, but they told me that there wasn't an
> aggressive Braille standard that they had to meet in their program.  They
> studied it a little bit, but they didn't become what an NFB training center
> would push them to become.  Also, students at the Carroll Center live in a
> dorm and eat at a dining hall, which gives them a comfortable crutch, but it
> does not push them to really be independent.  When you walk into the dining
> hall, you are expected to put your cane in a docking station and navigate
> the dining hall without it by walking in either a clockwise or
> counter-clockwise direction.
>
> The Carroll Center is a good training center with good people in it, but it
> is not the very best option available.
>
> I'd be happy to answer specific questions on- or off-list.
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> Justin M. Salisbury
> Undergraduate Student
> The University Honors Program
> East Carolina University
> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>
> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:32:38 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] sending a message to all Gmail contacts?
> Message-ID:
>         <CABpnAxEy+0j1-52etjq-3ATJ8ZsQs060VLbimFrvQ_ebaeZtnw at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a question for all Gmail users. Is there a way that I can send
> a message to all Gmail contacts at the same time? Is there some kind
> of "send to all" button like there is on my mom's Yahoo account? I'm
> asking because, as I posted last night, our business (Arianna's Art,
> Inc.) has created a new Gmail account where people can send us
> questions, feedback, orders, etc. We'd also like to create a contacts
> list for our Gmail account, and send out an email to all our contacts
> when we have a new announcement or a piece of news. So, can I do this
> in Gmail without Google group? If I can't do this with JAWS in Basic
> HTML mode, I'll just create a list on Google Groups. But, can I send
> one message to all contacts? Thanks!
>
> --
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sales and Advertising Coordinator
>
> Arianna's Art Inc. Paintings for the Blind and Sighted!!!
>
> Like us on Facebook! Search for Arianna Lipka Art for the Blind!
>
> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:34:34 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [nabs] Employment Mentoring Project: mentors
>         flier
> Message-ID:
>         <CABpnAxHG7+DGAjuu2LQum16Gut=rtNmez3SOHx9G_g0SxmbJ7A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Laura Glowacki, NABS First Vice President"
> <firstvicepresident.acbstudents at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:38:39 -0500
> Subject: [nabs] Employment Mentoring Project: mentors flier
> To: "Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of Blind Students."
> <nabs at acb.org>
>
> *Employment Mentoring Project*
>
> *Seeking Professionals Who Are Blind *
>
> **
>
> Remember the challenges you faced in finding your first job??
>
> Would you like to help a college student who is also blind begin their
> career in a profession similar to yours??
>
> We are conducting research to see if pairing students who are blind with
> mentors in their career fields will help them find employment.
>
> *BENEFITS*
>
> ?Opportunity to mentor a college student who is blind and is interested
> in working in your profession
>
> ?Assist in research that seeks to benefit the blind community
>
> *RESPONSIBILITIES*
>
> ?Participate from January 2012 through up to 12 months after your mentee
> graduates
>
> ?Help your mentee develop career goals and offer opportunities for job
> shadowing
>
> ?Face-to-face contact with mentor 4 hours a month
>
> ?Complete online activities monthly
>
> **
>
> *ELIGIBILITY*
>
> ?Legal blindness
>
> ?Currently employed or retired from a professional career
>
> ?Has basic computer literacy and knowledge of accessibility
> software/hardware needed to access online materials
>
> *INTERESTED?*
>
> ?*Complete the eligibility survey at *http://tiny.cc/mentor-professionals**
>
> **
>
> ?For more information, contact Jamie O'Mally at Mississippi State
> University's Research & Training Center on Blindness & Low Vision at
> rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu <mailto:rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu>or toll free:
> 1-800-675-7782
>
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sales and Advertising Coordinator
>
> Arianna's Art Inc. Paintings for the Blind and Sighted!!!
>
> Like us on Facebook! Search for Arianna Lipka Art for the Blind!
>
> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:37:04 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,    Blind Talk Mailing List
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [nabs] Employment mentoring project: mentees
>         flier.
> Message-ID:
>         <CABpnAxE+K3tVMPpAY7EGCZ=HS=DnyArud-Ya_H+nN1heA-v2aQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Laura Glowacki, NABS First Vice President"
> <firstvicepresident.acbstudents at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:37:29 -0500
> Subject: [nabs] Employment mentoring project: mentees flier.
> To: "Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of Blind Students."
> <nabs at acb.org>
>
> *Employment Mentoring Project*
>
> *For Students Who Are Legally Blind*
>
> **
>
> Is finding a job your next big step after graduation??
>
> Would you like the opportunity to work with a mentor who is also blind
> and has experience in your profession of interest??
>
> We are conducting research to see if pairing students who are blind with
> mentors in their career fields will help them find employment.
>
> *BENEFITS*
>
> ?Potential to work with a career mentor who is blind
>
> ?Access to career development resources
>
> ?Assist in research that seeks to benefit the blind community
>
> *RESPONSIBILITIES*
>
> ?Participate from January 2012 through up to 12 months after graduation
>
> ?Face-to-face contact with mentor 4 hours a month
>
> ?Complete online activities monthly
>
> **
>
> *ELIGIBILITY*
>
> ?Undergraduate or graduate student, under age 35, who:
>
> oIs legally blind
>
> oPlans to graduate within 2-3 semesters after January 2012
>
> oExpects to seek employment after graduation
>
> oHas basic computer literacy and knowledge of accessibility
> software/hardware needed to access online materials
>
> *INTERESTED?*
>
> ?*Complete eligibility survey online at *http://tiny.cc/mentor-students**
>
> ?For more information, contact Jamie O'Mally at Mississippi State
> University's Research & Training Center on Blindness & Low Vision at
> rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu <mailto:rrtc2 at colled.msstate.edu>or toll free:
> 1-800-675-7782
>
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sales and Advertising Coordinator
>
> Arianna's Art Inc. Paintings for the Blind and Sighted!!!
>
> Like us on Facebook! Search for Arianna Lipka Art for the Blind!
>
> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:50:16 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
> Message-ID:
>         <CABpnAxHz5Gn0S-s3q_Yb4H47HMK7APhSbcsxpJHGLTNHU9Cs1A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is an interesting discussion, and one which I was planning to
> start in the near future. I agree with Peter's sentiments about
> attending an NFB training center (although I wouldn't recommend
> BISM... well, maybe they've changed as their leadership has changed,
> from Loretta White to Amy Phelps) and I'm planning to attend a center
> next summer. I'm trying to decide which I will go to, Minnesota,
> Louissianna, or Colorado. So, I'd like to know what all of you thought
> were the pros and cons of each program. What did you like about each
> program, and what did you not like about it? What are the differences
> in the programs, as they're all NFB training centers? I'll most likely
> be going to the middle or high school program, I don't know which. I'm
> going into 8th grade at the end of this month, so will be going into
> 9th next August. So, which center would you recommend? Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
> On 8/14/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hello Justin and everyone,
>>
>>     For the reasons you point out below I wouldn't mess with the Carroll
>> Center under any circumstances. I'm originally from Massachusetts and saw
>> the same kind of results you mentioned from students who went there. What
>> can you expect from an agency whose founder viewed blindness as a "Dying."
>> If you want good blindness training go to an NFB center. Get what you need
>> once and it will last you a life time.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salisbury, Justin Mark" <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:57 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] The Carroll Center for the Blind
>>
>>
>> I attended the Carroll Center for the Blind for two consecutive summers
>> with
>> Justin Young, and I would like to give my personal take on it.
>>
>> Justin and I had this joke where we started the Justin Corporation, an
>> underground mafia meat market.  It was an amazing social experience with
>> all
>> of the other students involved.  If only considering the social frontier,
>> I
>> highly recommend it.
>>
>> I attended the Youth in Transition (YIT) program in 2006 and then the Real
>> World Work Experience (RWWE) in 2007.  I valued every bit of the
>> experience
>> both years, but I want to first make clear a fundamental disagreement that
>>
>> I
>> now have with the training that I received.  I lost my vision in 2005, so
>> I
>> was newly blinded when I went to the Carroll Center.  They taught me to
>> use
>> my remaining vision as much as possible and taught me ways to use my
>> remaining vision.  I wish that they had taught me how to do everything
>> non-visually.  I wish that they had occluded (blindfolded) me during O&M
>> lessons and other lessons in general.  I learned a lot of great things,
>> but
>> blindness skills should be about knowing how to do things non-visually.  I
>> am now planning to attend an NFB training center (Louisiana Center for the
>> Blind, Blind, Inc, or Colorado Center for the Blind), where I will learn
>> all
>> of the skills I need non-visually.  Also understand that I have a stable
>> visual field and acuity.
>>
>> I am much better off having gone to the Carroll Center than I was before I
>> went there, but it wasn't the best possible program that I could have
>> chosen.
>>
>> In the Youth in Transition program, they worked with us on our confidence
>> and social skills.  They taught us some basic cooking skills, how to do
>> laundry, a lot of O&M, housekeeping skills, how to use low vision devices,
>> and they had a class called "personal management," where they taught us
>> about shaving, tying a tie, sewing a button, and things like that.  If we
>> already knew how to do something, they would watch us do it and suggest
>> modifications in technique if necessary.  They also had a class called
>> adaptive technology, where they introduced me to ZoomText and other
>> students
>> with less vision than me to Jaws.  We had a lot of great group activities
>> and social opportunities that I will remember for a long time.  We also
>> saw
>> a counselor while we were there on a weekly basis to make sure that we
>> were
>> adjusting well to the environment.  Another activity, called "people
>> talk,"
>> was a time that we all gathered to talk about certain issues that often
>> led
>> to self-awareness and confidence building.
>>
>> In the Real World Work Experience program, we were evaluated on our skills
>> for a week and prepared for a month of work.  Once we started work, we
>> worked for three days per week in volunteer positions, and we were paid by
>> the Carroll Center.  The other two days were used for field trips and
>> training days.  Again, it was an amazing experience.  Different students
>> were placed in different positions in the Boston area.  We were
>> responsible
>> for using public transportation to get to and from our work sites.  We had
>> two job coaches in charge of about 10 or 12 students in the program, so
>> they
>> weren't with us all the time.  They were sighted people who watched us at
>> a
>> distance while we were in the environment.
>>
>> At the beginning of the RWWE program, I met a few adults who were at the
>> end
>> of their adult program, which runs during the regular school year.  They
>> spoke well of their program, but they told me that there wasn't an
>> aggressive Braille standard that they had to meet in their program.  They
>> studied it a little bit, but they didn't become what an NFB training
>> center
>> would push them to become.  Also, students at the Carroll Center live in a
>> dorm and eat at a dining hall, which gives them a comfortable crutch, but
>> it
>> does not push them to really be independent.  When you walk into the
>> dining
>> hall, you are expected to put your cane in a docking station and navigate
>> the dining hall without it by walking in either a clockwise or
>> counter-clockwise direction.
>>
>> The Carroll Center is a good training center with good people in it, but
>> it
>> is not the very best option available.
>>
>> I'd be happy to answer specific questions on- or off-list.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin M. Salisbury
>> Undergraduate Student
>> The University Honors Program
>> East Carolina University
>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>
>> ?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
>> change
>> the world; indeed, it?s the only thing that ever has.?    ?MARGARET MEAD
>>
>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:58:53 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] AMerican Hero Dog Award
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> Hi Beth,
>
> Amen to that! I'm going to try on my PC, as the site was a little
> weird with my BrailleNote, so it may be better with JAWS. I have
> recently finished reading Thunder Dog (my friend picked a copy up for
> me at national convention, as I wasn't there... what a bad
> Federationist I am, *smiles) and it's a wonderfull story. You'll love
> it! Enjoy the book!
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. Does anybody know when the deadline for voting for Roselle is?
> Did Mike mention this in one of his emails, and I just didn't pay
> attention?
>
> On 8/14/11, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, guys.
>> I read the messages from Michael Hingson and am very sad to hear
>> of Roselle's passing.  The posthumous wish I'm sure would be for
>> her to have the American Hero Dog award.  How many of you guys
>> have voted for her?  I'm just about ready to read Thunder Dog
>> myself.  Anyway, if anybody has voted, great.  If you haven't, I
>> have heard Roselle's story last year in Dallas, and I've been
>> thinking about this whole thing for the whole year since I've
>> heard it.  I remember the eloquence Mr. Hingson used in
>> portraying Roselle as a true American Hero Dog.  So let's all
>> vote for her, if not for a true award but a posthumous one.
>> Thanks.
>> Beth
>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:49:13 -0400
> From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on
>         the move and a corrected link
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> Hi Gabe,
>
> Just FYI, you don't need to send emails to the NABS list if they come
> across as posted to the NFBnet-members list. When Dave Andrews posts
> something to the NFBnet-members or NFBnet-master lists, it goes to
> everybody who's on any NFBnet lists. This reduces Inbox clutter for
> people who are on multiple lists, as a message is sent to one list,
> then forwarded to another list on the same server as the first, then
> another, and another... well, you see what I mean. The other lists you
> posted it to hadn't seen the message before you sent it, though,
> because they're on different servers. Just letting you know!
>
> Chris
>
> On 8/13/11, Gabe Cazares <gcazares10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> FYI
>>
>> ...Gabe
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:03:38 -0500
>> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Fwd: Thunder Dog on the move and a
>> corrected
>> link
>> To: nfbnet-members-list at nfbnet.org
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>Earlier this month I emailed many of you announcing that my new book,
>>>"Thunder Dog, A Blind Man, His Guide Dog, and the Triumph of Trust at
>>> Ground
>>>Zero " was released on August 2.  .  Please continue to tell the world
>>> about
>>>its release and please encourage your friends, family, and colleagues to
>>>order Thunder Dog.  I would appreciate your help very much.
>>>
>>>Now, I am excited to tell you that in its first week of release it has
>>>climbed to the rank of #29 on the combined New York Times Best Sellers
>>>list
>>>for print and eBooks.  This is incredible according to my publisher and
>>> book
>>>agent.  I wanted to share the exciting news.  I hope that you have
>>> purchased
>>>your own copy and have enjoyed Thunder Dog.  If you want to buy one please
>>>visit www.michaelhingson.com and click on "Order Thunder Dog".  All copies
>>>come autographed and pawtographed by me and Roselle.
>>>
>>>Thunder Dog continues to zoom up the Amazon and Barnes and Noble charts.
>>> If
>>>you want to read the story of Roselle and me as well as learn some life
>>>lessons around
>>>9-11 you can now purchase the cd audio book or a print book at bookstores.
>>>Better yet, as mentioned above, you can visit www.michaelhingson.com and
>>>purchase copies.  The pawtograph from Roselle is especially meaningful to
>>>me, and I hope to you, because it was obtained just six days before
>>>Roselle
>>>passed on June 26, 2011.
>>>
>>>The books reviews continue to be pretty tremendous.  I hope that "Thunder
>>>Dog" will help inspire people as raise their awareness about blindness.
>>> The
>>>book is available in audio cd, and print editions, both available at
>>>www.michaelhingson.com.  The audio edition has some extras including a
>>>speech I gave last year at the National Federation of the Blind convention
>>>in Dallas before 3,000 blind people.
>>>
>>>I also wish your help on another front.  In June, Roselle was nominated as
>>> a
>>>candidate to receive the American Dog Hero award from the American Humane
>>>Association.  Her nomination has progressed and she is now one of the
>>>eight
>>>finalists.  The link I sent you earlier this month apparently had a
>>> problem.
>>>I have corrected the difficulty.  Again I am asking you to take the time
>>> and
>>>vote for her at www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458.
>>>You can vote daily through September 30, 2011.  I would appreciate you
>>>spreading the word about this and helping Roselle win.  A victory for
>>>Roselle includes a substantial donation to Guide Dogs for the Blind, her
>>>Alma Mater.
>>>
>>>Thanks for all your encouragement and support over the years.  As always,
>>> if
>>>you know of anyone or any organization needing a speaker I am always
>>> looking
>>>for opportunities and would appreciate you passing on my name and contact
>>>information.  I hope all is well with you.
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike Hingson
>>>
>>>The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>>  "Speaking with Vision"
>>>Michael Hingson, President
>>>(415) 827-4084
>>>info at michaelhingson.com
>>>To order Michael Hingson's new book, Thunder Dog, and check on Michael
>>>Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>>www.michaelhingson.com
>>>
>>>Please vote for Roselle for the title of American Dog Hero of the year at
>>>www.herodogawards.org/view-entries.html#view/359/220458
>>>
>>>To learn about the KnfbReader Mobile please visit:
>>>http://knfbreader.michaelhingson.com
>>
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>> Texas Association of Blind Students - TABS
>> (A Division of the National Federation of the Blind of Texas)
>> www.nfbtx.org/tabs
>> Phone: 713-581-0619
>> "The world is full of willing people; some willing to work, the rest
>> willing to let them."
>> -Robert Frost
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:25:30 -0400
> From: Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com>
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>         <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] accessible iPod
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> Hello everyone:
> I'm thinking about buying a new iPod, and I'm wondering which kinds
> are the most accessible? I don't want an iPhone, I just want something
> to play music on. Should I go with a Shuffle, or are there more
> accessible iPods out there? Also, how accessible is iTunes these days?
> (I'm a JAWS user, and had heard that JAWS and iTunes weren't
> compatible together.) Any advice you could give me would be
> appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Patrick Molloy
>
>
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