[nabs-l] Sad news, from my DSO

Sun Aug 28 17:00:34 UTC 2011

Hi Peter,

Ah, and if you don't have the funds? Yes, 30 percent employment. But
70 percent is much larger than 30 percent. If you don't have the
funds, you don't have the funds! You can want it all you want, but in
this economy, sometimes you just don't have the funds to achieve your
dream, whatever it is.

Chris

On 8/28/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello Chris and everyone,
>
>     And a 30% rate of employment among the blind. More to the point his guy
> bit off more than he could chew. He should have investigated  all of these
> concerns prior to enrolling in school for this semester. Now he must deal
> with the consequences of such a decision. He is not alone in this respect.
> I've seen it happen numerous times. Blind people enroll in school that have
> not received good blindness training and lacking the skills and equipment
> needed to study independently and succeed in college. This is well
> documented by our organization. Hence it's not just Peter Donahue blowing
> off hot air. 70% or not if you want it bad enough you'll find a way to raise
> the needed funds to persue your dreams. Peter Donahue
>
>   Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "chris nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sad news, from my DSO
>
>
> Hi Peter and everyone,
>
> That's one thing I agree with you on. That's the NFB right there: "If
> the going gets tough, the tough get going, and win in the end!" I've
> heard Dr. Maurer say this a lot. Now, as to the rest of your comments,
> you can't jump to conclusions and criticize people without knowing all
> the facts. This was the same problem we had when we were discussing
> national convention and its online streaming. Remember that there is a
> 70 percent unemployment rate among blind people. So, "raising the
> funds yourself" is, more often than not, much easier said than done.
> This, unfortunately, will stay a proven fact until we get totally
> integrated into society, and we have a long way to go in that area. I
> am not trying to be a downer, in fact, I'm very optomistic about the
> work of the Federation. I'm trying to be a realist, and this, I
> believe, is the unfortunate reality. Therefore, I don't think you can
> fairly criticize other list members when they ask for advice to
> resolve their problems with getting the needed accomodations in
> school, when none of us; you, me, anyone, know every little fact about
> the person's situation and the person in general. So, I propose to all
> of you that we work to just give some constructive advice when a
> lister posts a question about a problem they're having. If one of us
> feels that they could do something differently, we could just suggest
> it encouragingly: "Have you tried doing this? Maybe you could try this
> instead of that." Hope this makes sense!
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. Joshua, while I understand your frustrations, I don't think Peter
> should be banned from the list altogether because of his recent
> comments. Of course, that's up to Mr. Andrews, but I think we should
> encourage freedom of speech on our lists. I think people should only
> be banned from the list if they are spamming it (Alexander Kaiser, for
> example,) or posting inappropriate content to it, i.e. sexual material
> or a lot of cursing.
>
> On 8/27/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Good evening Josh and everyone,
>>
>> If you're faced with a "Last resort" situation you'll need to hire a
>> transcriber and have the book translated and embossed and raise the funds
>> for this service yourself. Furthermore why did you not research this
>> before
>> the semester began! It sounds to me like you have a rough road to hoe. The
>> good news is that when the going gets tough the tough get going and win in
>> the end. This is what Mary and I would do if we were in your situation.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sad news, from my DSO
>>
>>
>> I would try APH and the Hadley School for the Blind's Braille
>> transcribing services.  It may cost a bunch, but that's all I can
>> offer.
>> Beth
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:17:56 -0500
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sad news, from my DSO
>>
>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>> My DSO lady informed me, that they've contacted the National
>> Braille
>> Press, about my Math textbook.
>> They said, that they don't have any college textbooks, in
>> Braille.
>> Where else can we go?
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
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> Chris Nusbaum
>
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> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
> be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan
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Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"