[nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings PageNoLongerAccessible

Sat Dec 17 22:01:42 UTC 2011

Hi Joshua,

As for kaptcha programs for Internet Explorer, there is one.  It 
is called Solona.  I'm not sure of the Web address which you can 
go to to get the program; can someone send that to the list and 
help both Joshua and I out? As to how to get a Gmail account, 
here is the procedure:

1.  Go to www.gmail.com.
2.  When the page loads, you are taken to a screen where you can 
either sign in if you have a Gmail account or create one.  Click 
the "create an account" link.  It is right after the form fields 
for username and password.
3.  Fill out the applicable form fields on the account page.  
Your "login name" is the email address that you want to have.  
For example, joshua.lester at gmail.com.  When you type in your 
email address that you want to have, leave out the @gmail.com 
part, as that will be automatically filled in.  Be sure to click 
the "check availability" button to make sure the email address 
you have chosen hasn't been already taken.
4.  During your creating an account process, you'll have to 
either select a "security question" from the combo box or create 
your own.  This is a question that you have to answer if you 
forget your password and want to access your Gmail account.
5.  When you get to the bottom and it says "type the characters 
you see," you'll either have to use WebVisum or Solona, depending 
on what browser you're using, or (unfortunately) you're going to 
have to ask a sighted person to read the kaptcha to you.  Maybe 
you can do this while you are in a session with your reader.  I 
know it's annoying, and kaptchas need to be accessible, but 
that's what you have to do currently.  Sorry!

Please note that once you have your Gmail account set up and you 
try to go into the Web interface, you need to click the "basic 
HTML" link.  This is because when you first create your account, 
it will be set to standard view, which isn't accessible.  Once 
you have selected basic HTML view, go into your Settings and 
click "set basic HTML as default view." Let me know if you have 
any questions! Hope this helps!

Chris

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:29:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings 
PageNoLongerAccessible

Chris, how did you get your GMail service?
I did contact Web Visom's people, but they never responded.
I also found out, that it only works with Firefox.
I need something that will work for Internet Explorer.
They seriously need to fix their audio captcha!
Thanks, Joshua

On 12/16/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 Wow! Yahoo and accessible; two words I thought I would never 
hear
 in the same sentence! Well, now it's true! I'm still sticking
 with my Gmail account, but even with that I'm mainly using a
 third-party email client.

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the 
Blind,
 1968-1986

  The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired 
youth
 in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
 assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
 which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
 information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
 us online at www.icanfoundation.info!

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,National Association of Blind Students
 mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:25:42 -0800
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page
 NoLongerAccessible

 YAHOO seems to be more accessable, than Gmail.At 03:59 PM
 12/13/2011,
 Joshua Lester wrote:
 I haven't had any problems doing searches.
 Navigating other parts of the site, may be a problem.
 Even GMail's audio Captcha is inaccessible.
 It won't play.
 Google has a long way to go, as far as accessibility is
 concerned.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello Joshua,

  I just looked at this myself and, to my knowledge, they are
 using sliders
  that you can slide with a mouse instead of combo boxes,
  checkboxes and radio
  buttons.  These sliders, of course, are not accessible with 
JAWS
 and NVDA.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
  [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
  Of Joshua Lester
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:48 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings 
Page
 No
  LongerAccessible

  It is accessible.
  It says, "Screenreader users, click here."
  Blessings, Joshua

  On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am bringing this to your attention as it looks like this
 change occurred
  just today.  Please read on.  This company is facing another
 possible
  lawsuit.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
  Behalf Of Gerald Levy
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:13 AM
  To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
  Subject: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page No Longer
 Accessible

  Hi list.  Has anyone else noticed that you can no longer change
 your
  search
  preferences on the Google Search Settings page?  The radio 
boxes
  previously
  used to select a particular option under each heading seem to
 have
  vanished.
  For instance, under the Google Instant heading, On and Off are
 listed, but
  there are no radio or check boxes to select the option you 
want.
 And
  under
  the Number of Search Results Per Page heading, the numbers 10,
 20, 30, 40,
  50 and 100 are listed, but there seems to be no way to select
 the number
  you
  want.  And nothing happens when you hit Space or Enter on the
 Save button,
  so there is apparently no way to activate it to save your
 preferences like
  you could before.  I have tried JAWS 9, NVDA and SA to Go with
 both IE 8
  and
  Firefox, but can't select anything on the Search Settings page
 no matter
  what screen reader/browser combination I try.  Has Google
 suddenly made
  its
  Search Settings page inaccessible, and is there any work around
 for this
  problem?  Google seems to be becoming less and less accessible
 every day.
  Maybe the NFB should look into this issue.  Thanks for any
 feedback.

  Gerald

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