[nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search SettingsPageNoLongerAccessible

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Dec 17 22:51:24 UTC 2011


Thanks!
I'm sending this to a friend of mine, too!
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/17/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Chris and Josh,
> The address for the solona captcha services is: http://www.solona.net.
> This is a web based service that allows you to submit images of the web page
> that has a captcha in it, then wait a few seconds until a volunteer reader
> at the other end responds with the captcha code. You must sign up for this
> service and the sign up process is fast and easy, it is free, and, of
> course, does not require any challenging audio captchas or visual ones.
> Please try it out and let us know. Please  note: this is no automated
> robotic artificial intelligence remote service that scans captchas and sends
> them to you in clear text form. Volunteer personnel participate to send the
> captchas to subscribers. To read more go to the web site at www.solona.net.
> There are more instructions and policies.
>
> Hope this helps you guys!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:02 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search
> SettingsPageNoLongerAccessible
>
> Hi Joshua,
>
> As for kaptcha programs for Internet Explorer, there is one.  It
> is called Solona.  I'm not sure of the Web address which you can
> go to to get the program; can someone send that to the list and
> help both Joshua and I out? As to how to get a Gmail account,
> here is the procedure:
>
> 1.  Go to www.gmail.com.
> 2.  When the page loads, you are taken to a screen where you can
> either sign in if you have a Gmail account or create one.  Click
> the "create an account" link.  It is right after the form fields
> for username and password.
> 3.  Fill out the applicable form fields on the account page.
> Your "login name" is the email address that you want to have.
> For example, joshua.lester at gmail.com.  When you type in your
> email address that you want to have, leave out the @gmail.com
> part, as that will be automatically filled in.  Be sure to click
> the "check availability" button to make sure the email address
> you have chosen hasn't been already taken.
> 4.  During your creating an account process, you'll have to
> either select a "security question" from the combo box or create
> your own.  This is a question that you have to answer if you
> forget your password and want to access your Gmail account.
> 5.  When you get to the bottom and it says "type the characters
> you see," you'll either have to use WebVisum or Solona, depending
> on what browser you're using, or (unfortunately) you're going to
> have to ask a sighted person to read the kaptcha to you.  Maybe
> you can do this while you are in a session with your reader.  I
> know it's annoying, and kaptchas need to be accessible, but
> that's what you have to do currently.  Sorry!
>
> Please note that once you have your Gmail account set up and you
> try to go into the Web interface, you need to click the "basic
> HTML" link.  This is because when you first create your account,
> it will be set to standard view, which isn't accessible.  Once
> you have selected basic HTML view, go into your Settings and
> click "set basic HTML as default view." Let me know if you have
> any questions! Hope this helps!
>
> Chris
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
>  The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:29:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings
> PageNoLongerAccessible
>
> Chris, how did you get your GMail service?
> I did contact Web Visom's people, but they never responded.
> I also found out, that it only works with Firefox.
> I need something that will work for Internet Explorer.
> They seriously need to fix their audio captcha!
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 12/16/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Wow! Yahoo and accessible; two words I thought I would never
> hear
>  in the same sentence! Well, now it's true! I'm still sticking
>  with my Gmail account, but even with that I'm mainly using a
>  third-party email client.
>
>  Chris
>
>  "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>  real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>  exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>  opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>  nuisance."
>  -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the
> Blind,
>  1968-1986
>
>   The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired
> youth
>  in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>  assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
>  which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
>  information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
>  us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,National Association of Blind Students
>  mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:25:42 -0800
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page
>  NoLongerAccessible
>
>
>  YAHOO seems to be more accessable, than Gmail.At 03:59 PM
>  12/13/2011,
>  Joshua Lester wrote:
>  I haven't had any problems doing searches.
>  Navigating other parts of the site, may be a problem.
>  Even GMail's audio Captcha is inaccessible.
>  It won't play.
>  Google has a long way to go, as far as accessibility is
>  concerned.
>  Blessings, Joshua
>
>  On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>   Hello Joshua,
>
>   I just looked at this myself and, to my knowledge, they are
>  using sliders
>   that you can slide with a mouse instead of combo boxes,
>   checkboxes and radio
>   buttons.  These sliders, of course, are not accessible with
> JAWS
>  and NVDA.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>   [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>   Of Joshua Lester
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:48 PM
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] FW: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings
> Page
>  No
>   LongerAccessible
>
>   It is accessible.
>   It says, "Screenreader users, click here."
>   Blessings, Joshua
>
>   On 12/13/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
>  wrote:
>   I am bringing this to your attention as it looks like this
>  change occurred
>   just today.  Please read on.  This company is facing another
>  possible
>   lawsuit.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>  [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>   Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:13 AM
>   To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>   Subject: [gui-talk] Google Search Settings Page No Longer
>  Accessible
>
>
>   Hi list.  Has anyone else noticed that you can no longer change
>  your
>   search
>   preferences on the Google Search Settings page?  The radio
> boxes
>   previously
>   used to select a particular option under each heading seem to
>  have
>   vanished.
>   For instance, under the Google Instant heading, On and Off are
>  listed, but
>   there are no radio or check boxes to select the option you
> want.
>  And
>   under
>   the Number of Search Results Per Page heading, the numbers 10,
>  20, 30, 40,
>   50 and 100 are listed, but there seems to be no way to select
>  the number
>   you
>   want.  And nothing happens when you hit Space or Enter on the
>  Save button,
>   so there is apparently no way to activate it to save your
>  preferences like
>   you could before.  I have tried JAWS 9, NVDA and SA to Go with
>  both IE 8
>   and
>   Firefox, but can't select anything on the Search Settings page
>  no matter
>   what screen reader/browser combination I try.  Has Google
>  suddenly made
>   its
>   Search Settings page inaccessible, and is there any work around
>  for this
>   problem?  Google seems to be becoming less and less accessible
>  every day.
>   Maybe the NFB should look into this issue.  Thanks for any
>  feedback.
>
>   Gerald
>
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