[nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Sat Dec 24 06:10:08 UTC 2011


I'm proud of you for standing up for your beliefs, in that situation!
We need more people like that, who will stand up for what's right.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/23/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Well, Joshua, last thing I'll say. If someone pushes me to join a group that
> I won't join, I ignore that and change the subject; if that does not work, I
> aggressively tell them no and to leave me alone. You will find many people
> in life whom you don't agree with; live with it. I had Muslims at George
> mason university, GMU, say I should  be a muslim because Islam was the best
> way. I reject that because I'm a christian so I  listened for a while and
> then said no and just said something like "I need to get onto class now.
> Nice meeting you, but I already have a strong faith different than yours."
> That doesn't mean GMU is a bad school though or that GMU endorses ISLAM
> because a few vocal muslim students were out there.
> So this analogy is very flawed you draw.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 9:04 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>
> I was just upset that he ogressively tried to force ACB down my throat.
> At one time, I was in agreement with the accessible currency that they
> wanted, but when I researched it, I wanted nothing to do with it.
> The guy just kept ramming it down our throats, and I was glad to have
> left after my 4 weeks were up.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 12/23/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> That is right Anmol.  Members of both groups go there. While their rules
>> and
>> philosophy may not be NFB's they do have job training programs so many
>> blind
>> people, regardless of  organization affiliation,, attend it. NFB members
>> take the good with the bad I suppose.
>> Joshua, just because a few ACB people go there, it does not mean ACB
>> endorses it. In fact ACB endorses no center for the blind.
>> It’s a private center.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 7:21 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>>
>> Just to clear some things.
>> Lions World Services for the Blind is now World Services for the Blind to
>> better reflect its' mission and to allow other organizations including the
>> Lions Club.
>> Also the World Services for the Blind is not sponsored by the ACB or the
>> NFB. Just because a member of the California Council of the Blind happen
>> to
>> attend there, does not mean that ACB sponsores it or supports it. There
>> have
>> many NFB members who attend World Services for the Blind and local chapter
>> of the NFB has started having its' meetings there.
>>
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
>> among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 6:05 PM
>>> Lions World Services for the Blind,
>>> www.lwsb.org.
>>> They're sponsored by the Lions Club, (hence their name.)
>>> Also, from what I gather, because of my time there, is that
>>> they're
>>> sponsored by the ACB, because the California Council of the
>>> Blind sent
>>> one of their members, to be a trainee at the center.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 12/23/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Is LWSB your state center?
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> >
>>> > Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>> >
>>> > "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of
>>> eyesight.  The
>>> > real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of
>>> education that
>>> > exists.  If a blind person has the proper
>>> training and
>>> > opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere
>>> physical
>>> > nuisance."
>>> > -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of
>>> the Blind,
>>> > 1968-1986
>>> >
>>> >  The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and
>>> visually impaired youth
>>> > in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through
>>> providing
>>> > assistive technology and scholarships to camps and
>>> conventions
>>> > which help them be equal with their sighted
>>> peers.  For more
>>> > information about the Foundation and to support our
>>> work, visit
>>> > us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>>> >
>>> >  ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> > Date sent: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:06:32 -0600
>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>>> >
>>> > They're part of the state.
>>> > I will say this, since you brought up Vocational
>>> Rehab.
>>> > When I still had them, they were the ones that forced
>>> me to
>>> > attend LWSB.
>>> > I wonder what the DSB would think about funding me, if
>>> I wanted
>>> > to go to LCB.
>>> > Blessings, Joshua
>>> >
>>> > On 12/22/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >  so DSB is part of your colleges's DSS
>>> then.  They can be slow.
>>> > Just stay on
>>> >  them and advocate
>>> >
>>> >  -----Original Message-----
>>> >  From: Joshua Lester
>>> >  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:06 PM
>>> >  To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> >  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of
>>> time!
>>> >
>>> >  I didn't have issues with VR, because I didn't
>>> use them much.
>>> >  I only used the Division of Services for the
>>> Blind, from the
>>> >  Department of Social Services.
>>> >  The VR Counselor retired, and now we don't have
>>> VR in my state.
>>> >  The Department of Services for the Blind, (of
>>> the DSS,) is very
>>> > slow
>>> >  in getting the adequate help that I need.
>>> >  They won't even supply the things I need in
>>> class.
>>> >  These are the people I've been complaining about
>>> on this list,
>>> > for months!
>>> >  Blessings, Joshua
>>> >
>>> >  On 12/22/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >  Joshua,
>>> >  I'm confused.  You met at your college or
>>> were supposed to.  But
>>> > is this
>>> >  counselor your disability counselor from school
>>> or the state
>>> > agency?
>>> >  If you mean the vr agency, I sympathize with you
>>> because I don't
>>> > get much
>>> >  from my counselor either.  All of them are
>>> horrible about
>>> > communication.
>>> >
>>> >  -----Original Message-----
>>> >  From: Joshua Lester
>>> >  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:15 PM
>>> >  To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> >  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of
>>> time!
>>> >
>>> >  All of the DSB people have been this way.
>>> >  I'm tired of dealing with them!
>>> >  Blessings, Joshua
>>> >
>>> >  On 12/22/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >  Wow! What a waste of time! OK, lesson to learn
>>> about this woman;
>>> >  she's not organized!
>>> >
>>> >  Chris
>>> >
>>> >  "The real problem of blindness is not the loss
>>> of eyesight.  The
>>> >  real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of
>>> education that
>>> >  exists.  If a blind person has the proper
>>> training and
>>> >  opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere
>>> physical
>>> >  nuisance."
>>> >  -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National
>>> Federation of the
>>> > Blind,
>>> >  1968-1986
>>> >
>>> >   The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps
>>> blind and visually impaired
>>> > youth
>>> >  in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them
>>> through providing
>>> >  assistive technology and scholarships to camps
>>> and conventions
>>> >  which help them be equal with their sighted
>>> peers.  For more
>>> >  information about the Foundation and to support
>>> our work, visit
>>> >  us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>>> >
>>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>>> >  From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>>> >  To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> >  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> >  Date sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:19:02 -0600
>>> >  Subject: [nabs-l] DSB meeting, a waste of time!
>>> >
>>> >  Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>>> >  I'm tired of these slow DSB people!
>>> >  I went to the college, to meet Ms Audrey, (my
>>> counselor,) but
>>> > she
>>> >  didn't show up!
>>> >  She called us, at the last minute, and told us
>>> that she went to
>>> >  the
>>> >  campus, 30 miles away.
>>> >  She Googled our college, and only saw that one,
>>> and said she
>>> >  never
>>> >  thought that they'd have a campus so close to
>>> it.
>>> >  The woman also misunderstood what we said, but
>>> instead of
>>> > calling
>>> >  our
>>> >  cell phone, she called our home phone.
>>> >  She thought we said to meet us at the
>>> "Community," center.
>>> >  She was supposed to meet us at the student
>>> center.
>>> >  She should have called our cell, so we could
>>> clear it up.
>>> >  Anyway, we're about to have her E-mail the staff
>>> members, that
>>> >  she
>>> >  needed to meet with.
>>> >  On another note, I have my Spring schedule.
>>> >  I have a monday, and wednesday class, from
>>> 6:30/9:20, wich will
>>> >  keep
>>> >  me out of church.
>>> >  This has been a bad day!
>>> >  Blessings, Joshua
>>> >
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