[nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Wed Dec 28 01:16:53 UTC 2011


Interesting!
I was under the impression, that ASB had the TVI program.
Thanks for clearing that up!
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/27/11, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Arkansas School for the Blind does not actually have a program to train
> TVI, but the TVI are students at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock
> (UALR). They had a program for Vision Certification, but that program know
> longer exist. Teachers who work at ASB and do not have this certification,
> get it from Missouri State University. MSU has a online program. However,
> UALR does have a Mobility Instructors program and students come to ASB to do
> their internship.
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/27/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 4:57 PM
>> Hi, Gloria.
>> Arkansas School for the Blind, Little Rock, Arkansas.
>> BTW, I sent you some E-mails.
>> I'd like to hear from you offlist.
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
>> On 12/27/11, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Joushua,
>> > What school did you say that was where you live? What
>> school for the blind?
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:04 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi, Gloria.
>> > My instructors took classes at the Arkansas School for
>> the Blind, for
>> > their TVI training.
>> > I'm not sure about other states, but mmy state's
>> school for the Blind,
>> > had a program to train TVI's.
>> > I'm not sure if they still do.
>> > Blessings, Joshua
>> >
>> > On 12/27/11, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> DOes anyone know where a person might receive
>> trainning to become a TVI?
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list"
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:29 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training
>> Centers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Arielle,
>> >>>
>> >>> Nice post. I liked how you did not put down
>> the center, but did mention
>> >>> its weaknesses. I will add a few things from
>> talking to a few attendees
>> >>> from
>> >>> LWSb.
>> >>> You are correct that LWSB offers independence
>> training, but probably not
>> >>> to
>> >>> the degree NFB centers do.
>> >>> Each applicant goes for a 30 day evaluation in
>> all the rehab skills; I
>> >>> think
>> >>> that is a bit long, but that is it.
>> >>> They recommend what skills to work on from
>> there. If a applicant is ready
>> >>> to
>> >>> go into the vocational programs, they do so
>> >>> if they meet those requirements. Things like
>> having a certain score on
>> >>> the
>> >>> Wonderlik test, a certain typing speed,
>> computer proficiency, and strong
>> >>> writtin communication skills are some
>> requirements.
>> >>> The requirements vary from program to
>> program.
>> >>>
>> >>> You have to have a four year college degree
>> for any of the four IRS
>> >>> training programs. I know the IRS really does
>> hire applicants. When I was
>> >>> at a job fair, I ran into an IRS rep that
>> mentioned they just hired a
>> >>> bunch of IRS trainees from lions World.
>> >>>
>> >>> Other training options are:
>> >>> •    Desktop support technician-
>> prepares students for entry level IT
>> >>> technician jobs
>> >>> •    Assistive technology
>> instructor
>> >>> •    Microsoft office Specialist
>> -  prepares one for office jobs, to pass
>> >>> the Microsoft certification exams, and covers
>> office suite applications
>> >>> •    Microsoft certified
>> professional developer – training to be a
>> >>> computer programmer
>> >>> •    Microsoft computer systems
>> engineer – entry level help desk training
>> >>>
>> >>> So if you wanted to go into a technical field,
>> LWSB might be an option.
>> >>> If
>> >>>
>> >>> its not helpful, you can always leave. If you
>> wanted
>> >>> to work for the IRS such as a tax collection
>> rep, then this might be an
>> >>> option. They find you a job after training.
>> >>>
>> >>> For the living and going off campus, here is
>> what I know.
>> >>> Students generally go to the cafeteria and
>> live in  the dorm. However, if
>> >>> you already demonstrated independent living
>> skills, they do have off
>> >>> campus apartments. I think they have a shuttle
>> taking students to and
>> >>> from
>> >>>
>> >>> the apartments, if I recall correctly.
>> >>> Students can go off campus. They just need to
>> sign out and in.
>> >>> They can go in groups or alone. Some centers
>> have a clearance rule,
>> >>> meaning you have to be cleared by O&M
>> staff, but lwsb does not  say this.
>> >>>
>> >>> I heard LWSb got a new director. So I imagine
>> rules and policies are
>> >>> changing, hopefully for the better. So if you
>> wanted to go into those
>> >>> vocations they train in, might be worth
>> considering.
>> >>> Then when you have a job interview, you would
>> have more training than
>> >>> sighted people might have.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ashley
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Arielle Silverman
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 10:51 AM
>> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training
>> Centers
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>> I have not attended LWSB in Arkansas, but
>> havve heard some things
>> >>> about it from a few graduates. So, someone
>> please correct me if
>> >>> anything I say about the center is incorrect,
>> as I would like to learn
>> >>> more and b able to give people accurate
>> information.
>> >>> Based on what I have heard from graduates, my
>> impression is that
>> >>> LWSB/World Services for the Blind is a center
>> that specializes in
>> >>> technical training for some specific types of
>> jobs, like being an IRS
>> >>> collector or a small engine repair person.
>> This kind of training is
>> >>> important, but it is not the same thing as the
>> kind of comprehensive
>> >>> blindness skill training provided at NFB
>> centers. While LWSB/World
>> >>> Services does provide training in blindness
>> skills as well, my
>> >>> impression is that this general training is
>> much less beneficial than
>> >>> the general skills training provided at NFB
>> centers, and other centers
>> >>> that house students in apartments. While I
>> can't comment on LWSB's
>> >>> philosophy, I do know that LWSB houses
>> students in dormitories and
>> >>> that they dine in a cafeteria. In my opinion
>> this kind of living
>> >>> environment is not very helpful for teaching
>> blindness skills. Skills
>> >>> need to be practiced in order to be mastered,
>> and apartment living
>> >>> affords opportunities to practice cooking,
>> cleaning and other skills
>> >>> in a variety of real-world situations.
>> Apartment living also affords
>> >>> opportunities to build confidence.
>> Furthermore, I am not sure how much
>> >>> LWSB students are allowed or encouraged to
>> travel off center premises
>> >>> on their own or in groups. This kind of
>> real-world travel is an
>> >>> essential part of the training experience at
>> NFB centers.
>> >>> So, I believe that if you are looking for
>> technical training in a
>> >>> specific job field, LWSB/World Services might
>> be an option worth
>> >>> considering. However, if you are looking for
>> basic training in travel,
>> >>> home management, computers and Braille, or
>> just want to build your
>> >>> overall confidence and independent
>> functioning, I would highly
>> >>> recommend looking for a center that houses
>> students in apartments and
>> >>> that allows students to get out and travel on
>> their own during free
>> >>> time. If you have some vision but suspect you
>> may eventually need to
>> >>> function with less or no sight, then picking a
>> center that uses
>> >>> sleepshades may also be a priority. The NFB
>> centers all meet these
>> >>> criteria, but there are also some state-run
>> and private centers that
>> >>> do. So do your homework and ask about these
>> things before making your
>> >>> choice.
>> >>> I make these suggestions based on my own
>> experience at an NFB center,
>> >>> LCB, and based on conversations I have had
>> with dozens of graduates
>> >>> from various kinds of training centers. I
>> would be happy to talk
>> >>> further by email or phone (see contact info
>> below) if you have more
>> >>> specific questions.
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Arielle Silverman, Past NABS President and
>> Board Member
>> >>> 602-502-2255
>> >>> arielle71 at gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
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