[nabs-l] question on Ipods

Wed Dec 28 21:41:54 UTC 2011

Chris,
The way you describe your ipod nano sounds simple. I don't want a touch 
screen. So if the newer ipod nanos do that, I'll stick with the shuffle. You 
say yours is a fifth generation. I'll see if that is still sold.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods

Hi Ashley,

The Nano keypad is just like the Shuffle then, at least on mine.

Chris

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods

Chris,
You must really love music; I'm not sure I need a 8 gb  size;
maybe four or
six gb would do for me.
Are the buttons on the nano on a keypad? Is it like a phone
keypad? On the
shuffle, the buttons are around the circular okay button.
Now that I know you do not have to interact with the screen much
and do
gestures, maybe I could learn the nano.
I like the idea of marking it with dots or tape.  I've also used
the clock
face reference to learn button functions.  Yes the  ipod shuffle
is old.
So next one will be a shuffle or a nano.
Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:21 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods

Hi Ashley,

Here are some answers to your questions:

* Memory Space: That Shuffle must be pretty old! The newer iPod's
come in a lot bigger sizes; I have a 8 GB Nano.  There are 16 gig
models too.

* VoiceOver: All iPods after the Classic have VoiceOver built in,
to the best of my knowledge.  It might have started with the 1st
generation Nano, though; I can't remember.

* Nano and touch stcreens: I have a Nano, and it is a combination
of a touch screen and buttons.  However, you can't really tell
that they are buttons at first because they're not very raised,
so it looks like a touch screen.  To fix this problem, I put Wiki
sticks on each button to raise them, and had a sighted person
help me learn which button did what.  I then used the clock-face
technique to learn it.  On the Nano, the button at: 12 o'clock is
the "go forward" button (to go forward a track in an album or go
to the next song in a playlist, genius mix, or when the iPod is
in shuffle mode,) 3 o'clock is the play/pause button, 6 o'clock
is the go back button, and 9 o'clock is the menu button (to go to
the previous menu.) The button in the middle of the circle where
all the buttons are is the "OK" or "select" button.  If you are
hearing a song and you want to know the title and artist of the
song that is playing, just hit the center button and VoiceOver
will tell you.  You may have to do this twice.  And if you shake
the device, it will shuffle the songs; this is the "shake to
shuffle" feature.  The only time you will need to use a
touchscreen-like gesture is when you are in a menu.  Just a
little flick (1 finger) forward will move you to the next item in
the menu; a flick back will move you to the previous item in the
menu.  When you get to the item you want, hit the center button.

If you have any more questions about the iPod Nano, please let me
know! Hope this helps!

Chris

Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986

The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:57:32 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] question on Ipods

Hi all,

What are your experiences with Ipods? Are all now built in with
that talking speech voice over? I have a small ipod shuffle that
was a present to me a few years ago.
What memory sizes do Ipod shuffles come in now? Mine is only 1
gig, which I?™m discovering is not big enough!
I?™m not interested in a touch screen device because I think it
would be too easy to press the wrong thing.  Are any ipods screen
based but not a touch screen? I thought the ipod nano was a touch
screen, but not sure.

Anyone used an ipod for books or movies? What is the navigation
ability with them? By chapter?
I might get an ipod again  with a bigger memory capacity and
wondered my options.  I like the shuffle because its small and
simple to use; few buttons.  So I might stick with that.

Thanks.
Ashley
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