[nabs-l] question on Ipods

Thu Dec 29 01:45:04 UTC 2011

You should really try the nano before saying this. If you haven't used
it you won't know how simple it is. You can really live without having
to look for stuff on the screen, just by flicking.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Chris,
> The way you describe your ipod nano sounds simple. I don't want a touch
> screen. So if the newer ipod nanos do that, I'll stick with the shuffle. You
> say yours is a fifth generation. I'll see if that is still sold.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:43 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> The Nano keypad is just like the Shuffle then, at least on mine.
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
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> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Chris,
> You must really love music; I'm not sure I need a 8 gb  size;
> maybe four or
> six gb would do for me.
> Are the buttons on the nano on a keypad? Is it like a phone
> keypad? On the
> shuffle, the buttons are around the circular okay button.
> Now that I know you do not have to interact with the screen much
> and do
> gestures, maybe I could learn the nano.
> I like the idea of marking it with dots or tape.  I've also used
> the clock
> face reference to learn button functions.  Yes the  ipod shuffle
> is old.
> So next one will be a shuffle or a nano.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> Here are some answers to your questions:
>
> * Memory Space: That Shuffle must be pretty old! The newer iPod's
> come in a lot bigger sizes; I have a 8 GB Nano.  There are 16 gig
> models too.
>
> * VoiceOver: All iPods after the Classic have VoiceOver built in,
> to the best of my knowledge.  It might have started with the 1st
> generation Nano, though; I can't remember.
>
> * Nano and touch stcreens: I have a Nano, and it is a combination
> of a touch screen and buttons.  However, you can't really tell
> that they are buttons at first because they're not very raised,
> so it looks like a touch screen.  To fix this problem, I put Wiki
> sticks on each button to raise them, and had a sighted person
> help me learn which button did what.  I then used the clock-face
> technique to learn it.  On the Nano, the button at: 12 o'clock is
> the "go forward" button (to go forward a track in an album or go
> to the next song in a playlist, genius mix, or when the iPod is
> in shuffle mode,) 3 o'clock is the play/pause button, 6 o'clock
> is the go back button, and 9 o'clock is the menu button (to go to
> the previous menu.) The button in the middle of the circle where
> all the buttons are is the "OK" or "select" button.  If you are
> hearing a song and you want to know the title and artist of the
> song that is playing, just hit the center button and VoiceOver
> will tell you.  You may have to do this twice.  And if you shake
> the device, it will shuffle the songs; this is the "shake to
> shuffle" feature.  The only time you will need to use a
> touchscreen-like gesture is when you are in a menu.  Just a
> little flick (1 finger) forward will move you to the next item in
> the menu; a flick back will move you to the previous item in the
> menu.  When you get to the item you want, hit the center button.
>
> If you have any more questions about the iPod Nano, please let me
> know! Hope this helps!
>
> Chris
>
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
>
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:57:32 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> Hi all,
>
> What are your experiences with Ipods? Are all now built in with
> that talking speech voice over? I have a small ipod shuffle that
> was a present to me a few years ago.
> What memory sizes do Ipod shuffles come in now? Mine is only 1
> gig, which I?셫 discovering is not big enough!
> I?셫 not interested in a touch screen device because I think it
> would be too easy to press the wrong thing.  Are any ipods screen
> based but not a touch screen? I thought the ipod nano was a touch
> screen, but not sure.
>
> Anyone used an ipod for books or movies? What is the navigation
> ability with them? By chapter?
> I might get an ipod again  with a bigger memory capacity and
> wondered my options.  I like the shuffle because its small and
> simple to use; few buttons.  So I might stick with that.
>
> Thanks.
> Ashley
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