[nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Thu Dec 29 14:51:48 UTC 2011


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----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers

Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN also has an excellent 
program.  Florida State, Missouri State, and Ohio State also have 
programs.  I think I saw a list of these programs on one of the 
NFB sites but can't recall where that might have been.

-Greg
On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Amy Sabo wrote:

 Hello hope and all,

 I also want to also add 3 schools when I lived in Michigan that
 have excellent programs in tvi and rehab teaching for the blind.
 I will list them here for you all...

 Western Michigan university-west Michigan area.  This is the 
best
 one to offer these programs and it's also the best one in the 
usa
 too.  As a matter of fact my father went to college there for 
his
 b.a.

 Michigan state university
 University of Michigan


 As for Colorado which is where I now live there's the university
 of Colorado too.  I hope this answers some of your questions.  
Take
 care all and, I will talk to you all soon.



 Hugs,
 amy

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hope Paulos
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 1:16 PM
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 UMass Boston has a program for TVI's.  I'm going there for VRT 
but
 was
 originally in the TVI program.
 Hope and Beignet
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
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 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:04 PM
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 Hi, Gloria.
 My instructors took classes at the Arkansas School for the 
Blind,
 for
 their TVI training.
 I'm not sure about other states, but mmy state's school for the
 Blind,
 had a program to train TVI's.
 I'm not sure if they still do.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 12/27/11, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hi,
 DOes anyone know where a person might receive trainning to
 become a TVI?
 ----- Original Message -----
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 Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:29 AM
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 Hi Arielle,

 Nice post.  I liked how you did not put down the center, but
 did mention
 its weaknesses.  I will add a few things from talking to a few
 attendees
 from
 LWSb.
 You are correct that LWSB offers independence training, but
 probably not
 to
 the degree NFB centers do.
 Each applicant goes for a 30 day evaluation in all the rehab
 skills; I
 think
 that is a bit long, but that is it.
 They recommend what skills to work on from there.  If a
 applicant is ready
 to
 go into the vocational programs, they do so
 if they meet those requirements.  Things like having a certain
 score on
 the
 Wonderlik test, a certain typing speed, computer proficiency,
 and strong
 writtin communication skills are some requirements.
 The requirements vary from program to program.

 You have to have a four year college degree for any of the
 four IRS
 training programs.  I know the IRS really does hire applicants.
 When I was
 at a job fair, I ran into an IRS rep that mentioned they just
 hired a
 bunch of IRS trainees from lions World.

 Other training options are:
 .    Desktop support technician- prepares students for entry
 level IT
 technician jobs
 .    Assistive technology instructor
 .    Microsoft office Specialist -  prepares one for office
 jobs, to pass
 the Microsoft certification exams, and covers office suite
 applications
 .    Microsoft certified professional developer - training to
 be a
 computer programmer
 .    Microsoft computer systems engineer - entry level help
 desk training

 So if you wanted to go into a technical field, LWSB might be
 an option.
 If

 its not helpful, you can always leave.  If you wanted
 to work for the IRS such as a tax collection rep, then this
 might be an
 option.  They find you a job after training.

 For the living and going off campus, here is what I know.
 Students generally go to the cafeteria and live in  the dorm.
 However, if
 you already demonstrated independent living skills, they do
 have off
 campus apartments.  I think they have a shuttle taking students
 to and
 from

 the apartments, if I recall correctly.
 Students can go off campus.  They just need to sign out and in.
 They can go in groups or alone.  Some centers have a clearance
 rule,
 meaning you have to be cleared by O&M staff, but lwsb does not
 say this.

 I heard LWSb got a new director.  So I imagine rules and
 policies are
 changing, hopefully for the better.  So if you wanted to go
 into those
 vocations they train in, might be worth considering.
 Then when you have a job interview, you would have more
 training than
 sighted people might have.

 Ashley

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Arielle Silverman
 Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 10:51 AM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB and Other Training Centers

 Hi all,
 I have not attended LWSB in Arkansas, but havve heard some
 things
 about it from a few graduates.  So, someone please correct me
 if
 anything I say about the center is incorrect, as I would like
 to learn
 more and b able to give people accurate information.
 Based on what I have heard from graduates, my impression is
 that
 LWSB/World Services for the Blind is a center that specializes
 in
 technical training for some specific types of jobs, like being
 an IRS
 collector or a small engine repair person.  This kind of
 training is
 important, but it is not the same thing as the kind of
 comprehensive
 blindness skill training provided at NFB centers.  While
 LWSB/World
 Services does provide training in blindness skills as well, my
 impression is that this general training is much less
 beneficial than
 the general skills training provided at NFB centers, and other
 centers
 that house students in apartments.  While I can't comment on
 LWSB's
 philosophy, I do know that LWSB houses students in dormitories
 and
 that they dine in a cafeteria.  In my opinion this kind of
 living
 environment is not very helpful for teaching blindness skills.
 Skills
 need to be practiced in order to be mastered, and apartment
 living
 affords opportunities to practice cooking, cleaning and other
 skills
 in a variety of real-world situations.  Apartment living also
 affords
 opportunities to build confidence.  Furthermore, I am not sure
 how much
 LWSB students are allowed or encouraged to travel off center
 premises
 on their own or in groups.  This kind of real-world travel is
 an
 essential part of the training experience at NFB centers.
 So, I believe that if you are looking for technical training
 in a
 specific job field, LWSB/World Services might be an option
 worth
 considering.  However, if you are looking for basic training in
 travel,
 home management, computers and Braille, or just want to build
 your
 overall confidence and independent functioning, I would highly
 recommend looking for a center that houses students in
 apartments and
 that allows students to get out and travel on their own during
 free
 time.  If you have some vision but suspect you may eventually
 need to
 function with less or no sight, then picking a center that
 uses
 sleepshades may also be a priority.  The NFB centers all meet
 these
 criteria, but there are also some state-run and private
 centers that
 do.  So do your homework and ask about these things before
 making your
 choice.
 I make these suggestions based on my own experience at an NFB
 center,
 LCB, and based on conversations I have had with dozens of
 graduates
 from various kinds of training centers.  I would be happy to
 talk
 further by email or phone (see contact info below) if you have
 more
 specific questions.
 Best,
 Arielle Silverman, Past NABS President and Board Member
 602-502-2255
 arielle71 at gmail.com

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