[nabs-l] Training centers
Brian Hatgelakas
brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net
Wed Feb 9 22:32:03 UTC 2011
Why are blind people discouraged from dating and treated like little kids at
some centers!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers
> Training centers are a good way for blind people to learn the skills, but
> the CCB staff being blind makes it easier. Tara, I agree with you on all
> points. At a center in Daytona Beach, Florida, there were nurses, old
> creeps,, and lots of rules such as the lights out rule. Sexes were
> separated by wing, and there was no question about dating. At CCB, blind
> people are treated like people.
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tara Annis <TAnnis at afb.net
> To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:38:09 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] Training centers
>
> I attended the Colorado Center program between semesters at college. I
> attended the school for the blind and also took some classes at a local
> association of the blind, so would like to provide some insight.
> I do agree that blind people can be successful and have above average
> skills, even though they do not go to the NFB center, but this is really
> rare from my observations.
> Before I went to CCB, I did not know that blind people could walk long
> distances using a cane, as in m five or ten miles. I thought people could
> only walk routes that the O&M instructor had taught them, and the route
> would be a mile or less. I thought blind people needed sighted guide
> for any new place they visited, and couldn't use the cane to follow
> someone.
> I didn't know that blind people could use a charcoal grill.
> Some observations:
> 1. There were no nurses at CCB that had control of the medication you
> took. If you are supposed to be living in the real world, why have
> someone keep track of your meds?
>
> 2. There were no lights out at CCB. As long as you showed up to class on
> time, who cares what you do at night, as long as you aren't breaking the
> law. You're adults, so you should be treated like them.
> Go to bed when you feel like it.
>
> 3. There was no hassle at CCB when you wanted to go for lunch. You just
> walked out the door. You didn't need to make sure people had a sighted
> guide before beginning. You didn't need to have a sighted person to come
> along to help out.
>
>
> 4. Instructors were blind at CCB, and not ashamed of it. At other training
> centers, the instructors would never be caught using a cane or reading
> braille. Sighted people wore dark glasses when traveling with blind
> people, so the public couldn't look into their eyes. They did not like
> being stared at by the public. Yet, they never told blind people this
> fact.
>
> 5. Colorado staff did not hide the fact that the public can sometimes be
> cruel, and many do not understand blindness. I have witnessed at other
> centers staff outright lying to blind people telling them that no one can
> tell they are blind and that they don't need a cane, since they get around
> so well. Yet, the people they tell this to have disfigured eyes, and run
> into obstacles. The instructors do not want the blind person to feel bad
> so that is why they make up these lies.
>
>
> 6. I hate how at other centers they always assume a blind person has low
> self esteem, and needs counseling.
> CCB knew that some of their students are at an intermediate level,
> already past the adjustment phase of blidnness, and just came to CCB for
> advanced skills training.
>
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